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[02:16:15] : xa4a установил(а) тему: Python.SU | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи на google.com | За голосом - в приват к модераторам | Код постить в dumpz.org | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://➡.ws/pu | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Третий тупой вопрос за сутки — на http://throwcatch.me | Ещё рано использовать py3k
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[07:30:00] XIT: xa4a, paramiko называется. Нашел сайт разработчика, там написано поддерживает питона от 2,2 и выше. В бунте 9.10 стоит 2,6. При установки модуля, запуском ./setup.py выдаёт ошибки http://dumpz.org/14078/
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[07:34:24] XIT: тоесть его интерпретирует не питон, а баш? значит я не правильно запускаю, а как правильно запускать питон-скрипт....
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[07:37:30] XIT: пробовал, но тогда он мне предлагает ознакомиться с --хелп http://dumpz.org/14079/
[07:37:53] Ляпатяпа: мдя
[07:37:56] xa4a: ему виднее ;)
[07:38:12] xa4a: XIT: там написано, что ты команды не указал
[07:38:23] xa4a: например python setup.py install
[07:38:39] xa4a: /me ранними утрами субботы безвомездно добр..
[07:39:00] Ляпатяпа: /me аж удивился. Так вот сразу взял и выложил готовое решение
[07:40:01] XIT: xa4a, спасибо. встало, только начинаю разбиратся......уж извините за такие вопросы, спасибо Вам.
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[08:03:36] XIT: вот пробую из книги пример, требующийся модуль установил, но что опять не так: http://dumpz.org/14080/ , куда копать
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[08:15:28] xa4a: File "getssh.py", line 14, in <module>
[08:15:34] xa4a: TypeError: an integer is required
[08:15:42] xa4a: !g python data types
[08:15:59] xa4a: !g python types int str
[08:16:19] xa4a: ман по типам, в общем
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[09:23:17] XIT: спасибо, будем читать
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[10:13:40] bobry: sevenov, а ты couchdbkit юзал с джангой ага?
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[10:14:11] bobry: у меня тут просто проблемы какие то странные с ним
вроде делаю все как в их туториале
ан нет, экспешн на эксепшене
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[12:31:11] _lorien: http://www.explosm.net/comics/1850/ жесть ))
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[12:40:09] bobry: ребят, у меня такой вопрос с этим couchdb
насколько я понял couchdbkit не предоставляет модуль, который можно было бы указать в DB_ENGINES
но оставлять DB_ENGINES пустым тоже нельзя - джанга ругается на improperly configured
как это можно вылечить? пока указал sqlite в качестве заглушки, но это как то не православно
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[12:49:56] _lorien: bobry, ты имеешь в виду DATABASE_ENGINE?
[12:50:07] bobry: да, очепятался, извиняюсь
[12:50:10] bobry: его самый
[12:50:33] bobry: по турецки сказал как то, ну да ладно
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[12:51:38] bobry: в принципе, если не указывать этот параметр то сервер стартует, но вот sqlall разумеется ругается
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[12:52:09] bobry: как и все команды для бд
[12:52:33] _lorien: bobry, я что-то не пойму, зачем тебе sqlall, если ты с couchdb работаешь
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[12:53:18] bobry: ну sqlall я наугад попробовал :)
syncdb тоже не работает
[12:54:04] _lorien: этого нету в доках couchdbkit? как там решается вопрос с тем, что надо где-то юзверей хранить?
[12:54:20] _lorien: если никак, то значит с django.contrib.auth нельзя работать и syncdb тебе не нужен тоже :D
[12:55:03] bobry: насколько я понял пока это никак не решается, мне юзверей не надо хранить и contib.auth я убрал из INSTALLED_APPS
[12:55:28] _lorien: тогда зачем тебе syncdb?
[12:55:30] bobry: syncdb нуна чтобы таблицы создавать автоматом
[12:55:36] bobry: это оно может пока
[12:55:45] _lorien: в couchdb создавать т.е.?
[12:55:47] bobry: ухух
[12:56:23] _lorien: там в доках написано, что можно указывать свои db backendы, вот... наверное, можно написать какую-то заглушку по быстрому )
[12:56:40] bobry: кстати джанга мне написала что у нее есть backend "dummy"
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[12:56:48] bobry: правда если его указать то результат ноль)
[12:56:51] bobry: все равно что пустая строка
[12:57:33] _lorien: хм, dummy это не для кэша разве?
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[12:58:05] bobry: я не знаю, только только с джангой
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[12:59:22] ffsdmad: скажет, а id is None?0:id всё ещё не работает?
[12:59:44] bobry: тернарный оператор чтоли?
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[13:36:27] ffsdmad: bobry - блин, тьфу
[13:36:28] ffsdmad: спасибо
[13:36:34] bobry: :)
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[13:38:23] Ляпатяпа: ffsdmad, это только для python >= 2.6
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[13:39:20] bobry: почему?
[13:39:40] bobry: val if cond else val2?
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[13:41:24] Ляпатяпа: ну да
[13:41:29] Ляпатяпа: хотя сейчас проверю
[13:41:32] bobry: нет, ты что
[13:41:36] bobry: в 2.5 точно работает
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[13:42:26] Ляпатяпа: угу, в 2.5 работает
[13:42:37] Ляпатяпа: может это я проверял пока 2.4 на сервере стояло
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[18:09:02] огыешсук: /me не понял -- на странице pip пишут "is complementary with virtualenv". Пытаюсь обновить оный под virtualenv`ом: pip -U pip и получаю "could not delete '/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pip.py': Permission denied", ну вот нафига он лезет за пределы своего virtualenv`а?
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[18:20:47] cutwater: огыешсук, а ты ему pip -E укажи явно путь к virtualenv окружению
[18:21:25] огыешсук: это он просто старый был, я обновил до пятой версии руками, теперь работает
[18:22:10] огыешсук: на сайте пишут, он теперь даже удалять умеет
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[19:16:08] slav0nic: sevenov, в волну?
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[19:16:26] sevenov: slav0nic, угу, wave который.
[19:16:52] slav0nic: мне мона?)
[19:17:47] _lorien: я спрашивал, мне вроде послали, но так и не пришло
[19:17:59] _lorien: sevenov, давай мине тоже :)
[19:18:24] sevenov: _lorien, шли мыло в приват
[19:18:42] _lorien: lorien@lorien.name
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[19:19:31] sevenov: выслал
[19:19:40] sevenov: >Кому-то на след.день приходит, кто-то неделю ждет.
[19:21:10] _lorien: что там крутого есть? шлюшки, блекджек имеются?
[19:21:47] sevenov: хз, еще не разобрался. Там стопицот видео роликов надо смотреть, да доки читать. Вроде бы.
[19:22:09] sevenov: либо там есть все, но где-то в жопе, либо оно такое унылое, каким видится сразу.
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[19:26:48] _lorien: хм, шо-то у меня локализация django приложения не подхватывается, если оно установлено в virutalenv
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[19:27:16] _lorien: ой, нет, не читайте, шо я писал :)
[19:27:52] sevenov: _lorien, поздно.
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[19:32:19] fandal: всем привет, тут можно задать вопрос по django?
[19:32:29] sevenov: fandal, НЕЕЕЕТ!!!!
[19:32:32] sevenov: шутка.
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[19:34:41] _lorien: ну где же вопрос
[19:34:54] fandal: да думавю как задать правильно и максимально коротко)
[19:35:05] _lorien: максимально коротко уже не получилось )
[19:35:16] fandal: я ещё его не задал
[19:35:17] fandal: =)
[19:35:19] _lorien: т.к. прелюдия в виде "а можно задать" всё испортила :)
[19:38:09] fandal: при создании сообщения в блоге где присутствуют русские буквы, джанга ругается, хотя если выводить в ./manage.py shell через print и тот запрос что присутстсвует в дэбаге ошибки, то он не ругается а корректро пишет по русски, вопрос собственно чего ей не нравится?
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[19:38:46] piranha: ну вопрос чрезмерно короткий, как мне кажется
[19:38:53] piranha: я буду ругаться хуже джанги щас
[19:39:00] sevenov: :D
[19:39:07] fandal: это нормально
[19:39:08] fandal: =)
[19:39:10] piranha: ведь о том, о чëм она ругается, ты ж нам говорить не хочешь, если я правильно понял?
[19:39:11] sevenov: fandal, зря ты так долго думал. Думай снова.
[19:39:13] piranha: %)
[19:39:14] fandal: Incorrect string value: '\xD0\xBF\xD0\xBF\xD0\xBF...' for column 'title' at row 1
[19:39:23] piranha: кодировка базы какая?
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[19:39:47] fandal: про базу данных не подумал, сейчас гляну
[19:40:39] _lorien: и вообще джанга какая :) версия
[19:40:43] piranha: /me afk
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[19:46:14] red-agent: И питон какой
[19:46:22] red-agent: И полный трейсбек желательно бы увидеть.
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[19:47:20] fandal: значит так, кодировка базы данных utf8
системная кодировка utf8
версия джанго 1,1,1
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[19:48:31] sevenov: fandal, трейсбек?
[19:48:58] fandal: http://dpaste.com/117497/
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[19:51:00] sevenov: ох уж этот mysql
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[19:53:33] fandal: попробуй sqlite
[19:53:36] fandal: gjghj,e.
[19:53:40] fandal: попробую
[19:53:44] огыешсук: /me помнит, что с mysql надо на тему кодировок шаманиться, "из коробки" оно русский не любит. В отличии от постреса.
[19:54:21] fandal: ну как сказать, я уже давно не встречал подобных проблем, пологаяю каноникал в своей бубунте накосячили опять
[19:54:22] sevenov: DATABASE_OPTIONS = {
"init_command": "SET <чототам>",
}
[19:54:26] sevenov: для мускула
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[19:54:41] fandal: щас на виртуалке заведу чёнить постабильнее и попробую
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[19:55:01] _lorien: sevenov, не гони
[19:55:17] _lorien: если у database стоит charset utf8 не надо никаких init
[19:55:21] sevenov: _lorien, говно эти ваши мускулы.
[19:55:29] sevenov: _lorien, "если".
[19:55:46] _lorien: sevenov, так он выше сказал, что там utf8
[19:56:07] sevenov: _lorien, а, ну тогда говно эти ваши sevenov'ы.
[19:56:08] sevenov: :D
[19:57:25] _lorien: $ ./manage.py hell
Unknown command: 'hell'
Type 'manage.py help' for usage.
:D
[19:58:12] sevenov: manage hell:D
[19:58:30] _lorien: fandal, а что выводится если в ./manage.py dbshell вписать это:
show variables like '%char%';
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[20:00:19] fandal: _lorien там показывает latin1
[20:00:25] _lorien: что значит там o_O
[20:00:29] _lorien: там несколько строчек
[20:00:51] fandal: везде кроме системы
[20:01:00] fandal: +--------------------------+----------------------------+
| character_set_client | latin1 |
| character_set_connection | latin1 |
| character_set_database | latin1 |
| character_set_filesystem | binary |
| character_set_results | latin1 |
| character_set_server | latin1 |
| character_set_system | utf8 |
| character_sets_dir | /usr/share/mysql/charsets/ |
+--------------------------+----------------------------+
[20:01:08] _lorien: | character_set_database | latin1
[20:01:11] fandal: угу
[20:01:13] fandal: вижу
[20:01:18] _lorien: ты же сказал, что у тебя база данных в utf-8 выше..
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[20:01:42] sevenov: _lorien, а я о чем. Ты такой плохой.
[20:01:47] fandal: тоже так думал
[20:02:04] fandal: сейчас изменю кодировку
[20:02:11] _lorien: sevenov, я мудень в ночи
[20:03:00] sevenov: _lorien, нюхни газку!
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[20:06:55] sevenоv: :D
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[20:07:17] sevenоv: o_O
[20:07:24] _lorien: sevenоv, сфингеры :D
[20:07:33] sevenоv: _lorien, нюхни газку!
[20:07:50] sevenоv: эээ свингеры может быть? :)
[20:07:59] fandal: спасибо, всё работает!)
[20:08:14] sevenоv: viva mysql
[20:08:18] _lorien: sevenоv, я часто стал оперчываться
[20:08:26] _lorien: опечатываться
[20:08:35] sevenоv: _lorien, у тебя там поди в Омске холодно, вот мозги и плохо работают
[20:08:48] sevenоv: _lorien, приезжай к нам в Питер, тут клёви
[20:08:52] _lorien: sevenоv, а у вас в питере осень даже весной.
[20:09:15] sevenоv: _lorien, чёб ты понимал, балда сибирская!
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[20:09:27] _lorien: sevenоv, все заебись, шэфф.
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[20:09:55] sevenоv: _lorien, ну чо там, скоро релиз pybb то будет?
[20:10:16] _lorien: sevenоv, я решил забить на него, лучше пойду учиться на пианино играть
[20:10:35] sevenоv: _lorien, правильно, тем более у тебя так удобно, пианино в комнате стоит
[20:11:05] _lorien: sevenоv, ага, на нем еще по лестнице клёви кататься
[20:11:11] sevenоv: _lorien, так странно, сижу вот в Питере и всё про тебя знаю...
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[20:16:26] feedzilla: Видеоблог Дмитрия Медведева — Политика России в сфере здравоохранения http://is.gd/4PInW (blog.kremlin.ru)
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[20:24:37] _lorien: Как бы перевести "Заявка на добавление нового блога". Не обязательно это перевести, можно оригинал изменить
[20:25:01] _lorien: в общем это заголовок страницы, где форма для отправки адреса блога для включения его в ленту планеты
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[23:13:35] _lorien: о,мне инвайти пришёл от артёма
[23:13:59] bobry: _lorien, на волну никак?
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[23:14:51] _lorien: ага
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[23:15:41] bobry: congrats :)
[23:15:44] bobry: лови волну!
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[23:18:08] _lorien: какая-то хрень, ничо не понятно :)
[23:18:10] Муркт: шота все так на этот гугл вейв бросаются
[23:18:23] Муркт: как на гуманитарную помощь после урагана
[23:18:29] _lorien: ну всё, теперь я там зареган, можно спокойно закрыть :)
[23:18:59] _lorien: http://pyplanet.ru - офигенское я облако тэгов нарисовал :-)
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[23:20:32] Муркт: _lorien: жестокое совершенно
[23:20:42] Муркт: klichuk: ага, и хаскель
[23:21:07] klichuk: про-ограа-амми-ирование-е
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