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[00:18:58] xa4a: а в хтмл5 добавят элемент <ruby> Yee-haa!11
[00:19:50] bobry: для руби чтоли? О_О
[00:20:33] xa4a: http://blog.whatwg.org/implementation-progress-on-the-html5-ruby-element
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[01:20:25] xa4a: кто-то ещё рубит? или все спят?
[01:20:37] xa4a: чем ipod nano 4g от 5g отличается? кроме фм и камреы?
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[01:24:01] bobry: ценой :)
[01:24:23] bobry: смешно добавлять плееру радио только в 5м поколении lol
[01:25:54] xa4a: а, акселерометр ещё
[01:26:06] xa4a: ну я радио не планирую пользовать
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[01:26:19] xa4a: и камеру - вряд ли
[01:26:51] xa4a: но разница между ними получается 100-200грн, тоесть около 10%
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[01:30:42] bobry: акселерометр? это для шафла чтоли?
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[01:31:18] xa4a: нано
[01:31:21] xa4a: а
[01:31:23] xa4a: ну да, похоже
[01:31:39] xa4a: Песни можно слушать в абсолютно случайном порядке. Просто встряхните iPod Nano — и он перемешает песни. Встряхните ещё раз — и он перейдёт к другой песне в медиатеке.
[01:31:53] xa4a: Встроенный датчик ускорения подсчитывает ваши шаги и помогает добиться высоких результатов. Вы можете узнать количество шагов за день или установить «Всегда включено», чтобы считать шаги постоянно. Так что iPod nano — это идеальный партнёр в тренировках.
[01:32:00] xa4a: всё, беру 5г)
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[01:35:25] bobry: ^^
[01:35:32] bobry: маркетологи великие люди
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[01:38:49] xa4a: а, не. разница в $50
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[02:28:15] kwis: ааа!!! Наверно влияет позднее время
[02:28:18] kwis: for i in list:
print list[i].adress #почему не работает???
[02:28:40] kwis: это же уже какаято несусветная ерунда
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[02:29:32] kwis: print list[1].adress - работает
[02:31:25] bobry: kwis, а что за ошибка?
[02:31:38] bobry: for i in list:
print i.address
[02:31:39] bobry: lol
[02:31:49] kwis: все, туплю
[02:31:51] kwis: решил
[02:32:06] kwis: for i in list:
print i.adress тупимс наноч глядя
[02:32:39] bobry: ухух) бывает
[02:32:47] bobry: тут уже утро поглядывать начинает
[02:33:41] kwis: раз вы проснулись))) спрошу еще один вопрос, тоже детский.
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[02:33:53] kwis: это второй будет)))
[02:34:15] bobry: окей
[02:36:36] kwis: вобщем задача, ходить на страничку по адресу и искать там слово. решил вот так...

[02:37:03] kwis: почему dumpz.org неработает???
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[02:38:30] kwis: http://dpaste.com/120911/ вобщем тоже какбы детский садик, но если такого сайта не существует, то скрипт тупо зависает и тишина, как сделать какое-нибуть исключение?
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[02:39:50] bobry: ну выдаст Timed Out по моему, после какого то промежутка
[02:40:10] bobry: kwis, http://docs.python.org/library/urllib2.html
[02:40:16] bobry: тут в urlopen есть timeout
[02:40:45] kwis: bobry, ага, санкс, будем пасматреть
[02:43:40] bobry: незачто, вообще urllib вроде и не модно уже :)
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[03:29:31] kwis: bobry, а что модно?
[03:30:14] bobry: urllib2)
[03:30:37] kwis: ну впринципе я уже понял и дописал двоечку
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[03:31:17] kwis: а таймоут так заюзать и не смог, пришлось делать так: urllib2.socket.setdefaulttimeout(1)
[03:31:51] kwis: теперь после трех секунд появляется ошибка urllib2.URLError: <urlopen error timed out> как теперь это правильно вывести?
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[04:02:14] kwis: есть кто живой?
[04:02:57] kwis: ясн... буду ждать до утра)))
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[04:04:44] bobry: я есть еще
[04:04:47] bobry: :)
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[10:48:14] огыешсук: kwis: socket.setdefaulttimeout() прекрасно работает!
[10:49:12] kwis: огыешсук, да работает. Только мне надо чтобы после того как время вышло, питон не выдавал ошибку а возврщал какоенибуть значение или сообщение
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[10:49:27] огыешсук: так перехватывай
[10:49:42] kwis: да вот тут как раз и не знаю...
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[11:19:59] xa4a: чё-то давно не обсуждали питон-иде :)
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[11:20:47] xa4a: я вот нашёл eclim - плагин для вима, интегрирующий в него эклипс. в фичах: * Context sensitive code completion. * Find element definition support. * Regular expression testing. * Django functionality. * Validation via python compiler, pyflakes, and pylint.
[11:20:52] xa4a: кто-то юзал?
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[11:47:35] trurl: первый тупой вопрос: как посмотреть логи конфы? хз, что за стрелка в шапке
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[11:48:34] Typhon: http://➡.ws/pu -- это урл,
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[12:25:50] Ляпатяпа: Как в файл BOM прописать?
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[12:26:26] Большой Лис: а чо это?
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[12:26:51] Typhon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byte_order_mark
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[12:30:29] Ляпатяпа: u'\xef\xbb\xbf' записываю в файл, открываю в фф - он кодировку не определяет и выводит хрень, хоть в ISO, хоть в UTF-8
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[12:32:42] Ляпатяпа: тоже самое с u'\u0239\u0187\u0191'
[12:33:49] xa4a: может '\ufeff ?
[12:34:02] Ляпатяпа: ага, уже нашел - получилось
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[13:40:12] cutwater: товарищи, есть кто нибудь кто с pyqt тесно работал?
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[13:40:40] RaD: я
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[13:41:29] cutwater: дело в том что pyuic4 генерирует не совсем корректный импорт к ресурсам. если они находятся на уровень выше в каталоге
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[13:42:46] cutwater: :D
[13:42:46] sevenov: RaD, :D
[13:42:54] sevenov: cutwater, ты лучше про днд спроси
[13:43:06] RaD: дада
[13:43:07] sevenov: лориен стопудово поможет
[13:43:08] cutwater: да с днд у меня проблем нет ))
[13:43:12] cutwater: видел знаю
[13:43:26] cutwater: кстати кто-нибудь уже с pyside работал?
[13:43:57] RaD: вот сцукан. знает про днд и не помог
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[13:44:05] sevenov: кстати, кто нибудь с питоном работал?
[13:44:10] cutwater: :D
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[14:43:36] wonderfulll: есть ГУИ в нём запускается тред, ГУИ и тред общаются через отдельную переменную которую ГУИ просто обновляет через какой-то промежуток времени. как правильно осуществлять общение с тредами?
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[14:46:10] xa4a: !pydoc threading.Lock
[14:46:58] xa4a: для коммуникации между тредами используют синхронизационные примитивы. обычно замков и очередей достаточно
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[14:49:35] wonderfulll: ок, пасиб буду копать в эту сторону
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[15:20:28] RaD: !pydoc dnd and qt
[15:20:31] RaD: :)
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[15:21:30] Typhon: RaD: pydoc по оффдокам ищет.
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[15:27:44] sevenov: /me тоже не отстает и решил посмеяться.
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[15:35:03] _lorien: пять минут смеха продляет жизнь на пять минут :)
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[15:35:30] xa4a: "решила сесть на диету. за 14 дней уже потеряла две недели!"
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[15:37:43] _lorien: лежишь так при смерти, чувствуешь, что душа уже отлеает и вдруг становится смешно, так смешно, так ржёшь, шо помереть даже не можешь, а смерть стоит рядом пунцовая от гнева и нетерпеливао стучит пальцами по тумбочке, а ты всё ржёшь и тут вдруг ты понимаешь, что вот он последний миг и смех замолкает, ты уже видишь чёрный балахон, отблески на лезвии ТЬМААААААААААААААААААА
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[15:41:10] piranha: Go rulz:
func fuck_yourself() { ; // 8=====D }
go fuck_yourself();
[15:41:57] mishok13: :)
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[15:49:05] xa4a: http://code.google.com/codejam/contest/scoreboard?c=311101# результаты код джема
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[15:50:28] mishok13: кто этот Жулгаков?
[15:50:42] mishok13: двое наших в топ20
[15:50:44] mishok13: приятно
[15:50:44] sevenov: Скор 168 о_О
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[15:52:53] Izvr: http://dpaste.com/121082/ http://dpaste.com/121083/ подскажите в чем проблема может быть
[15:52:57] xa4a: sevenov: http://www.topcoder.com/i/m/ACRush_big.jpg
[15:52:59] Izvr: всем привет
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[16:10:03] KarDer_Groom: подскажите... занашу в словарь набор типа tags=["air art", "B-КОМПЛЕКС", "home", "2008"], открываю БД и этим запросом sql="DELETE FROM tagging_tag WHERE name='%s'" % tag() выбераю по очереди каждый элемент словаря и удаляю если находит такой. Проблема в том что цифры и англ. слова удаляет, а если встречаются русские символы, то ничего не происходит, в БД остаются.
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[16:10:57] sevenov: KarDer_Groom, mysql?
[16:11:07] KarDer_Groom: sevenov: да
[16:11:33] sevenov: _lorien, твой клиент.
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[16:11:51] Typhon: русский язык мстит тебе за неграмотность
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[16:12:24] KarDer_Groom: Typhon: )))) а ещё версии есть?
[16:12:37] sevenov: KarDer_Groom, в базе latin1
[16:13:10] Typhon: кури кодировки
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[16:13:32] Typhon: а так с mysql не работал
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[16:14:13] sevenov: KarDer_Groom, уверен? Ну тогда
>["air art", "B-КОМПЛЕКС", "home", "2008"],
[u"air art", u"B-КОМПЛЕКС", u"home", u"2008"],
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[16:15:39] KarDer_Groom: sevenov: уверен, ща попробую
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[16:16:12] _lorien: KarDer_Groom, что выводит команда
use <you database name>
show variables like "%character%";
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[16:18:48] KarDer_Groom: _lorien: абсолютно морозится
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[16:19:09] _lorien: KarDer_Groom, не понял тебя
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[16:19:45] KarDer_Groom: _lorien: ну я пишу этот запрос, БД совершенно ничего не выводит, ни ошибок, ничего.
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[16:20:19] _lorien: не может быть
[16:20:42] _lorien: mysql> show variables like "%морозные вечера наступили нынче%";
Empty set (0.01 sec)
даже Empty set не выводит? )
[16:20:44] sevenov: KarDer_Groom, ты где пишешь-то? :D
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[16:23:06] KarDer_Groom: sevenov: ну в этом я не мастер, но запросы пишу в MySQL Query Browser
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[16:23:45] sevenov: KarDer_Groom, может он тупит? Попробуй в консоли
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[16:24:20] Typhon: заготовка для редагента: !wtf qip
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[16:24:46] KarDer_Groom: sevenov: с ней ща работаю, другие данные смотрю именно вы этой БД по работе. А этот запрос вообще 0 (((
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SyntaxError: (unicode error) invalid data Вот что выдало
[16:30:16] sevenov: чоэто?
[16:30:24] _lorien: заборчег
[16:30:27] sevenov: аа
[16:30:35] sevenov: оно огородилось от KarDer_Groom
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[16:30:39] KarDer_Groom: sevenov: это русские символы
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[16:30:54] sevenov: KarDer_Groom, нихуя не русские, не ври
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[16:31:23] Typhon: а я говорил про неграмотность
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[16:32:04] ╩╬╠╧╦┼╩╤: ☺чрурЁ☺, гад, теперь автокомплит не заюзаешь
[16:32:07] mishok13: вендовые кодировочки
[16:32:32] ☺чрурЁ☺: Хм. А это ведь на cp866 больше смахивает. Не?
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[16:32:54] чрурЁ☺: ╩╬╠╧╦┼╩╤, уговорил
[16:33:09] KarDer_Groom: ☺чрурЁ☺: возможно через CM выполняю и смотрю
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[16:33:13] mishok13: да ну ладно
[16:34:06] KarDer_Groom: чрурЁ☺: но фак то в том что сравнивается ведь програмно из списка с данными БД
[16:34:27] чрурЁ☺: KarDer_Groom, я ваще не понимаю о чем ты сейчас.
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[16:36:03] KarDer_Groom: чрурЁ☺: ну вот в этом запросе sql="DELETE FROM tagging_tag WHERE name='%s'" % tag() по очереди сравниваю с русским словом и удаляю из БД такую запись, но русские записи не косит
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[16:36:39] чрурЁ☺: KarDer_Groom, так какая у тебя в бд кодировка?
[16:36:47] чрурЁ☺: я что-то не уверен, что юникод
[16:37:06] чрурЁ☺: бля, с этим говна мускуелем вечные проблемы
[16:37:10] чрурЁ☺: => mysql говно
[16:37:40] KarDer_Groom: чрурЁ☺: ну что есть с тем и приходится работать, но разработчик утверждает что юникод
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[16:39:07] чрурЁ☺: KarDer_Groom,
my @abbr = qw( Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec );
my $datestamp = join '/', map { $_->[3], $abbr[$_->[4]+1], $_->[5]+1900} [localtime];
$datestamp .= ":" . join ':', map { $_->[2], $_->[1], $_->[0]} [localtime];
[16:39:18] чрурЁ☺: эт я так, испугать решил
[16:39:28] KarDer_Groom: чрурЁ☺: получилось
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[16:43:08] _lorien: чозапонос, у нас тут не перлконюшня!
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[16:43:29] чрурЁ☺: _lorien, хрююю
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[16:43:40] KarDer_Groom: u"" не помогло, есть ещё какие-нибудь варианты?
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[16:44:32] _lorien: Для начала надо понять в какой бд база данных
[16:44:40] _lorien: в какой кодировке
[16:44:53] KarDer_Groom: _lorien: unicode
[16:44:56] _lorien: затем при обращении к бд надо делать команду set names 'это самая кодировка'
[16:45:07] _lorien: какой ещё уникод, utf-8 ты имеешь в виду?
[16:45:23] KarDer_Groom: именно
[16:45:27] _lorien: какие доказательства, что база в utf-8?
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[16:45:58] KarDer_Groom: _lorien: разработчик сказал, этого мало?
[16:46:03] _lorien: да
[16:46:07] _lorien: я не верю ему
[16:46:20] sevenov: KarDer_Groom, и заодно почитай что значит "unicode" и "utf8/16/..."
[16:46:22] KarDer_Groom: _lorien: мммммм....... тогда надо подумать как доказать
[16:46:37] _lorien: KarDer_Groom, ну вот show variables бы желательно выполнить где-то )
[16:46:42] _lorien: а именно в mysql консоли!
[16:47:27] KarDer_Groom: _lorien: ладно, не буду вас доставать, погнал точно узнавать кодировку.
[16:48:00] _lorien: а я в магазин, куплю себе консервиованной кукурузы
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[17:14:38] KarDer_Groom: _lorien: вернулся?
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[17:16:10] RaD: на несколько ячеек?
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[17:18:32] Муркт: RaD: ага
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[17:19:08] RaD: имхо нереально, только если делегатом, типа этот охрененно здоровый виджет принадлежит этой ячейке
[17:19:24] RaD: но я могу ошибаться
[17:19:25] Муркт: ладно, обойдусь
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[17:20:36] KarDer_Groom: _lorien: вырезка из БД - CREATE TABLE (тут делаем таблицу) DEFAULT CHARSET=utf8; я думаю это будет доказательством что все таблицы в кодировке utf-8

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[17:21:05] _lorien: ага, ну тогда не знаю, бгыгыгы
[17:21:12] _lorien: ну может вы криво set names делаете :)
[17:21:16] RaD: а сама БД?
[17:21:31] _lorien: да по идее не важно, раз таблица в utf8
[17:21:46] RaD: а вот тут мы вас поправим
[17:21:57] RaD: БД и таблица - ваще не связаны
[17:22:03] RaD: по кодировкам
[17:22:25] _lorien: ну и что, таблица то в utf8
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[17:22:41] _lorien: просто если сделать бд utf8, то все таблицы тож будут utf8 автоматом
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[17:23:24] RaD: http://djbook.ru/ch05s03.html - вот это не зря написано
[17:23:54] RaD: пусть покажет:
show variables like 'coll%';
show variables like 'char%';
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[17:25:11] KarDer_Groom: 'collation_connection', 'utf8_general_ci'
'collation_database', 'utf8_general_ci'
'collation_server', 'utf8_general_ci'
[17:25:14] KarDer_Groom: show variables like 'coll%';
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[17:25:37] KarDer_Groom: RaD: на это ответило
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[17:25:56] _lorien: а на второй запрос?
[17:26:17] KarDer_Groom: Везде utf8
[17:26:50] KarDer_Groom: без исключения
[17:27:01] sevenov: KarDer_Groom, ну заебись, чо. Значит в запросе у тебя не юникод, хуле тут думать-то?
[17:27:22] sevenov: #coding:utf8

unicode('строка', 'utf8')
[17:27:37] sevenov: эээ, ну u'строка'.
[17:27:59] _lorien: а через что запросы через python db api?
[17:28:05] _lorien: голый
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[17:28:14] _lorien: там была какая-то опция для уникода
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[17:28:36] _lorien: db.connect(unicode=False|True,...) как-то так
[17:28:47] KarDer_Groom: sevenov: u'строка' так пробовал, не помогло, фигню выводило
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[17:29:55] KarDer_Groom: _lorien: я в этом не большой спец, тока начал учить. Делаю всё в файле, потом через командную строку пишу выполнить, и код выполняется
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[17:30:58] KarDer_Groom: _lorien: не, при коннекте ничего не указывал
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[17:40:49] KarDer_Groom: В общем я понял с этими кодировками вечная проблема в этом языке. И с моим вопросом надо открывать тему на форуме.
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[17:41:53] Typhon: KarDer_Groom: "в этом" языке нет проблем с кодировками. проблемы в головах людей, которые не хотят ничего читать
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[17:42:01] Typhon: !wtf unicode
[17:42:17] Typhon: KarDer_Groom: ^
[17:42:36] mishok13: мне вот интересно, в каком языке в таком случае, нету "проблем с кодировками"?
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[17:42:55] Typhon: по-моему, в питоне самая лучшая ситуация с кодировками.
[17:43:01] mishok13: почему юникод для программистов с ненулевым опытом становится таким открытием?
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[17:43:17] Typhon: все что нужно -- в стдлиб, бери -- да работай
[17:43:25] piranha: +1
[17:43:31] piranha: всë ж просто
[17:43:50] KarDer_Groom: о, оживились,
[17:43:59] piranha: KarDer_Groom: http://piranha.org.ua/blog/2009/07/21/unicode-in-python2x/
[17:44:13] piranha: та еще бы, больная тема - каждый считает, что есть какие-то проблемы, когда на самом деле всë клëво
[17:44:16] KarDer_Groom: извените, если зацепил, не хотел никого обидить
[17:44:29] piranha: прочитай, там буквально 20 строк
[17:44:30] Typhon: ты Розенталя сейчас обижаешь!
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[17:44:42] piranha: двукратно
[17:44:45] bobry: lol
[17:44:57] bobry: народ, кто нить может сказать где написано плохое про YUI?
[17:45:03] bobry: я что то немогу нагуглить
[17:45:05] piranha: yui - говно
[17:45:09] bobry: ))
[17:45:14] piranha: bobry: в моëм предыдущем сообщении
[17:45:20] bobry: piranha, хотелось бы развернутее
[17:45:24] piranha: /me не пользовался, потому верить не стоит
[17:45:37] piranha: но я решил помочь просто ;0
[17:45:39] Typhon: YUI sucks, Mootools For Ever! *list* [Updated!] - porn password http://phressure.com/public-xxx-passes-non-members/1516-yui-sucks-mootools-ever-list-updated.html
[17:45:41] piranha: облегчить задачу :)
[17:45:47] bobry: вооо) как раз то что надо
[17:45:54] bobry: ибо мутулз второй конкурент
[17:45:56] Typhon: porn и xxx ?)
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[17:46:09] bobry: ах
[17:46:10] piranha: ╩╬╠╧╦┼╩╤: sotan
[17:46:13] bobry: ступил))
[17:46:17] Typhon: google://yui sucks
[17:46:27] bobry: *OK*
[17:46:56] bobry: Typhon, неудачное слово однако) я искал yui cons и то по больше нашел
[17:47:00] bobry: тут одни пиписьки
[17:47:08] bobry: азиатские :/
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[17:57:33] _lorien: slav0nic, а чо оно делает? Есть thumbnail-sorl
[17:57:48] _lorien: А это, как в gimp нарисовать белую каёмку вокруг букв текста?
[17:58:03] _lorien: http://hunger.su/dumps/article_php_exe/images/php.gif как тут
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[17:58:29] slav0nic: _lorien, там немного другая архитектура + вроде пофункциональней
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[17:59:18] slav0nic: а так, я обычно тож сорл юзал, ща вот думаю и это поделию заценить
[17:59:55] sevenov: вау, смотрю сейчас модули модно стало называть *kit
[18:00:09] sevenov: mongokit, couchdbkit, вот и imagekit
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[18:01:08] _lorien: pybbkit
[18:01:13] _lorien: надо б сделать
[18:01:21] slav0nic: )
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[18:01:56] sevenov: вот только хоть один бы умел нормально раскидывать тумбы по поддиректориям.
[18:01:57] _lorien: ну там мне надо отдельный папкет, где будет сразу джангопроект лежать с pybb и зависимостями для быстрого разворачивания форума )
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[18:37:43] sevenov: _lorien, я про всякие имиджкиты и сорлы.
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[18:42:08] kwis: товарисчи, глупый вопрос - как питончиком узнать до какого числа длится месяц?
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[18:48:51] _lorien: g! python-dateutils
[18:49:26] _lorien: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/python-dateutil/1.4.1
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[18:51:05] kwis: _lorien, а datetime такого неумеет?
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[18:53:39] kwis: nmk, где-то там я сейчас и роюсь)))
[18:53:41] _lorien: kwis, имхо нет, calendar может умеет, я его не щупал чё-то
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[18:55:43] nmk: че там рыться то
[18:55:47] nmk: itermonthdays или как-то так
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[19:11:38] kwis: print calendar.monthrange(2009, 2)[1] выводит сколько дней в феврале...
[19:11:56] kwis: пасиб за помосч
[19:12:06] pr0ks: Ребят, GAE SDK заведется под python 2.6? Кто-нибудь мб пробовал?
[19:12:08] kwis: но есть еще один вопросик
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[19:16:42] _lorien: http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/ror/75304/#comment_2186468 написал слово "django" вдруг джангосрач удастся устроить ^__^
[19:17:15] _lorien: pr0ks, а что тебе 2.6 юзай 2.5 :)
[19:17:26] _lorien: прикольно, не знал про calendar
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[19:19:02] pr0ks: _lorien: лень просто 2.5 ставить)
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[19:27:17] kwis: блин, ребят, вы когда-то советовали, а я забыл... вобщем модуль для очеловечивания цыфр
[19:27:26] _lorien: pytils
[19:27:46] _lorien: олсо смотри в django фильтры в контрибах, но там only english
[19:27:56] _lorien: если те для джанги :o)
[19:28:06] kwis: _lorien, таотож... для джанги
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[19:28:23] kwis: там был модуль который прекрассно на русском говорил
[19:28:31] _lorien: в джанго?
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[19:29:00] kwis: на питон модуль
[19:29:03] _lorien: pytils
[19:29:03] kwis: помому
[19:29:06] _lorien: pytils
[19:29:15] kwis: уже не помню... ушел сотреть pytils
[19:30:04] _lorien: да и то про джангу чё-т я зря брякнул, не помню уже, но pytils несомненно то, что тебе надо )
[19:30:05] kwis: _lorien, оно! Спасибо еще раз
[19:30:30] piranha: в pytils есть теги для жданги
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[19:48:56] _lorien: ДААА
[19:49:09] _lorien: месячные у него :D
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[19:57:46] kwis: последний на сегодня глупый вопрос. делаю price = 85.00, print price, получается 85,0. Как сделать чтобы он не округлял???
[19:57:58] kwis: типо денежный формат нужен
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[19:59:13] Ляпатяпа: %d с параметрами, смотри в доках
[19:59:27] Ляпатяпа: что-то типа %.2d
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[20:00:18] Ляпатяпа: а я тут что-то сервачок загорелся собрать... на такой матери
http://www.nix.ru/autocatalog/motherboards_asrock/ASRock_A330GC_Atom330_CPU_onboard_i945GC_SATA_MiniITX_2DDRII_PC24200_67387.html
[20:00:25] Ляпатяпа: или что-то подобное
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[20:01:24] kwis: /me тоже о таком мечтает
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[20:01:34] kwis: дешего и сердито)))
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[20:02:16] kwis: хочу с него медиа сервер замутить, маленький...
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[20:06:40] Ляпатяпа: но там рамс с охлаждением чипсета, а решения на ионе стоят дохера
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[20:06:52] Ляпатяпа: эх, мечты мечты
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[20:07:05] Ляпатяпа: скорее лыжи куплю, пользы больше будет
[20:07:22] Ляпатяпа: и так дома два компа в моем эксклюзивном пользовании
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[20:14:31] piranha: _lorien: ты на grin смотрел?
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[20:14:59] _lorien: grin? вота фака? :)
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[20:16:49] piranha: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/grin
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[20:20:35] _lorien: гм, надо покурить, если оно вменяемее sr можно закрыть sr и поконтрибутить в grin )
[20:21:28] piranha: ну я вот щас трогаю - вроде вменяемое
[20:21:34] piranha: только .git по дефолту не игнорится, а так всë ок
[20:21:50] _lorien: а вывод цветной? )
[20:22:05] _lorien: эээ
[20:22:08] piranha: ./templates/invite/template_change.html:
11 : <td class="centered"><label for="id_subject" class="cufon my_label">Subject:</label></td>

[20:22:09] _lorien: а замена там есть??
[20:22:19] piranha: вот тут имя - зелëная, а label - выделенный
[20:22:20] _lorien: ибо почти ради этого я и писал sr ))
[20:22:22] piranha: опля!
[20:22:27] piranha: нету замены
[20:22:29] _lorien: search/replace
[20:22:34] _lorien: да, зосада )
[20:22:36] piranha: можно накотрибутить :-)
[20:22:39] piranha: та да
[20:22:44] _lorien: ну это если автор согласится )
[20:22:45] piranha: и я юзаю это часто
[20:23:03] piranha: та да
[20:23:14] piranha: проще забить
[20:23:17] piranha: :-)
[20:23:19] _lorien: а ты обновлялся, я там сделал шо бэкапы не делаются теперь по дефолту )
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[20:23:23] piranha: ага
[20:23:39] piranha: мля, мне конфа уже в который раз говорит, что я сильно часто пишу, что за неадекват?
[20:23:51] piranha: это они на цжр поправили конфиг, или что?
[20:24:10] _lorien: мне тож бывает
[20:24:17] _lorien: раз
[20:24:18] _lorien: ЫВА

[20:24:20] _lorien: фыва
[20:24:22] _lorien: о )
[20:24:26] _lorien: tatus: Error 500: Traffic rate limit is exceeded
[20:24:39] _lorien: тупо если два поста очень сразу идут - вылазит error
[20:24:54] piranha: http://www.daniweb.com/news/story238935.html
[20:24:59] piranha: угу, идиотизм
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[20:25:07] piranha: если я пишу быстро, то шо я, гореть в аду должен, или чо? )
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[20:48:48] _lorien: этот жизнь - это и есть ад
[20:48:53] _lorien: * эта
[20:49:14] piranha: небеса в говне, сотона во мне
[20:49:19] piranha: ты про это?
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[20:51:00] _lorien: небеса в говне, вроде были у меня мысли по поводу этого концепта
[20:51:39] _lorien: На улице хуйня весь день падает с небес
Цвет неба стал похож на прокисший майонез
Земля стала мягкая как свежее гавно
А мне всё равно, а мне всё равно!
[20:51:50] _lorien: вот, но тут сравнивается земля с говном, так что немного не то
[20:52:00] piranha is now Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication
[20:52:22] _lorien: а вообще "небеса в говне" очень лирично, надо будет что-нибудь придумать по поводу )
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[20:54:25] piranha: _lorien: еще есть небеса в огне
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[20:54:42] piranha: вогне, согне и разогне
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[21:06:25] огыешсук: а могёте угадать (не подглядывая в ответ) сколко будет 0<(8<"">8)>0 ?
[21:07:43] Typhon: нисколько ;)
[21:07:52] Typhon: ошибка получится
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[21:10:15] cutwater: фигня. будет True
[21:10:36] огыешсук: cutwater: почему?
[21:10:37] Typhon:
TypeError: unorderable types: int() < str()
[21:10:43] Typhon: вы живете в прошлом веке
[21:10:45] Typhon: ^_^
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[21:10:53] cutwater: python 3 ?
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[21:11:16] Typhon: угу
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[21:11:23] Typhon: Python 3.1a2+
[21:11:27] огыешсук: 3.1 даёт ошибку, а 2.5 спокойно считает
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[21:11:33] Typhon: старый тоже(
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[21:11:52] cutwater: и что уже из левых библиотек есть под 3.1 ?
[21:12:00] sevenov: 8 < "" > 8 <-- ололо.
[21:12:15] cutwater: я сначала подумал это хаскель
[21:13:42] sevenov: Ггг
[21:14:17] kwis: товарисчи int(85.03) дает 85, а как выцепить то что после запятой???
[21:15:04] sevenov: kwis, decimal?
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[21:15:27] Typhon: math.modf ;)
[21:15:28] sevenov: или 85.03 - int(85.03) :D
[21:15:59] Typhon: >>> math.modf(85.03)
(0.030000000000001137, 85.0)
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[21:17:41] _lorien: >>> 85.03 - int(85.03)
0.030000000000001137
:)
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[21:21:47] kwis: что за гонива http://dpaste.com/121219/ ????
[21:22:23] Typhon: Decimal
[21:22:25] Typhon: читай доки
[21:22:36] _lorien: фак, гонива детектед
[21:23:05] sevenov: kwis, Decimal
[21:23:17] kwis: да да, извините пожалуйста
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[21:25:20] kwis: но все-равно оно мне не показывает остачи...
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[21:25:26] kwis: /me йомойо
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[21:26:13] _lorien: тому, кто манами не увлекается, остачи не полагается
[21:26:14] Typhon: у тебя задача какая?
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[21:36:01] kwis: /me round тоже не катит... вотета задачка...
[21:36:38] Typhon: kwis, у тебя задача какая? тебе тучу решений предложили
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[21:37:05] _lorien: задача заипать мозги )
[21:37:14] kwis: все... молчу
[21:37:19] _lorien: :D
[21:37:33] _lorien: т..е задачу мы так и не узнаем? :)
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[21:38:09] kwis: я её уже говорил, с 85,33 выцепить 33
[21:38:14] sevenov: http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/a4n7s/stackless_python_outperforms_googles_go/c0fv1vf
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[21:38:32] sevenov: kwis, тебе дали решение.
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[21:38:42] Typhon: kwis, тебе ответили math.fmod, x - int(x)
[21:39:48] Typhon: x % int(x)
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[21:45:56] _lorien: http://demotivators.ru/posters/664479/tvoya-zhizn-to-na-chto-tyi-soglasilsya.htm
от я демотиватор сварганил :)
[21:47:10] Typhon: _lorien, Страница не найденa
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[21:47:33] _lorien: значит, модерация нужна, только что залили, не в курсах, как этот сайт работает )
[21:48:00] sevenov: http://angelov.ya.ru/replies.xml?item_no=3552&ncrnd=174 Няя
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[21:48:44] Typhon: sevenov, баян :D
[21:49:34] sevenov: Typhon, ну я некрофилией почти не занимаюсь, в окамль@ редко заглядываю ;)
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[21:59:01] _lorien: http://demotivators.ru/posters/484300/im-superkote.htm
[22:00:09] MAVr is now Да, я тут
[22:00:14] MAVr is now Да, я тут
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[22:05:40] _lorien: http://demotivators.ru/posters/188790/nu-neuzheli-nikto-shodstva-ne-vidit-a.htm
:D
[22:05:40] sevenov: _lorien, :D
[22:06:22] _lorien: http://demotivators.ru/posters/419219/chelovek-nevidimka-ne-dremlet.htm :D
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[22:15:16] _lorien: http://demotivators.ru/posters/647651/byit-plohim-zaebis.htm
а что это за фильм?
[22:16:46] sevenov: _lorien, тред не читал?
[22:16:48] sevenov: Длинный Уикенд
[22:16:53] Typhon: а песня хорошая
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[22:19:48] _lorien: гм, да, не догадался тред зачитать
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[22:28:35] _lorien: http://demotivators.ru/posters/206700/vnuchka-gitlera.htm
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[22:33:10] _lorien: http://demotivators.ru/posters/29005/oko-saurona.htm
[22:33:19] _lorien: sevenov, а правда такую штуку построят?
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[22:33:46] sevenov: _lorien, вроде бы да :(
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[22:43:15] kwis: товарищи подскажите пожалуйста сколько стоит клик на сайте с хостами около тысячи в день?
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[22:45:12] _lorien: http://vkontakte.ru/video9453930_135381329
[22:45:21] _lorien: kwis, зависит от тематики сайта
[22:45:39] _lorien: короче вешаешь рекламу адсенс и сам всё видишь )
[22:46:29] kwis: _lorien, спасибо
[22:47:44] _lorien: конверт трафика это целая наука :) Не обязательно контекст вешать, можно банер на сайт, который продаёт регистрации за смс или там фильмы продают за смс, тут надо эксперементировать.
[22:47:55] _lorien: Всё зависит от тематики сайта :)
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[23:11:30] _lorien: http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/i_am_advertising/75397/#comment_2186495
блять, тупые хабрадебилы :)
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[23:40:00] _lorien: Эээ, а как правильно писать? "Стыд то какой" или "Стыд-то какой"?
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[23:40:12] bobry: без дефиса
[23:40:18] kwis: первый вариант
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[23:41:01] _lorien: а где б правило почитать? мне то тоже кажецццо, шо без дефиса )
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[23:42:08] _lorien: Пишутся через дефис: 1) частицы -де; -ка; -с; -тка: ты-де; иди-ка; нате-с; ну-тка; 2) частица -таки (в значении «в конце концов», «тем не менее»), стоящая после глаголов, наречий, частиц: пришел-таки; опять-таки; всё-таки; 3) частица -то, присоединяемая к словам для прида­ния оттенка эмоциональности: Ты-то убежишь, а мы?

хммм... ? п.3 разве не относится к случаю "Стыд-то какой"?
[23:42:40] Typhon: с дефисом
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[23:43:14] _lorien: значит, не получится подъебать чела с хабра :D
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[23:45:02] sevenov: второй вариант
[23:45:17] sevenov: а, я слоупок. Как обычно :(
[23:46:28] _lorien: жаль, на хабре спят, не получится потроллить сильно )
[23:46:51] Typhon: завтра в школу?
[23:47:25] _lorien: гм, а ну я по своему времени сужу, у большей части рунета ещё и часа нету )
[23:47:30] _lorien: у меня то уже 3:47
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[23:49:05] sevenov: бля, точно, завтра в школу же.
[23:49:09] sevenov: все, я спать.
[23:51:24] Typhon: sevenov, матика будет завтра?
[23:51:59] _lorien: sevenov, ничо, на пении поспишь
[23:52:23] _lorien: sevenov, вот у меня завтра литра, фигня, книжки нету, а училка требует, шобы на парте минимум одна книга была, которую ща проходим
[23:52:26] sevenov: Typhon, не, математичка заболела, вместо математики будет чтение.
[23:52:38] Typhon: :(
[23:52:40] _lorien: есть маза порезать палец резаком и отпроситься с урока
[23:52:43] sevenov: _lorien, литра? Это что-то из средней школы?
[23:52:49] sevenov: у нас пока чтение еще
[23:52:54] sevenov: да ведь, Typhon?
[23:53:05] _lorien: sevenov, литра, ну литература же, да, это в более взрослых классах
[23:53:10] Typhon: да, опять технику чтения проверять будут(
[23:53:15] Typhon: _lorien, а там тоже читать?
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[23:53:24] _lorien: не, кто ж на литре читает :)))
[23:53:32] _lorien: ну мы обычно в морской бой режемся
[23:53:44] _lorien: или ещё игра прикольная - гоночки
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[23:54:03] _lorien: рисуешь на листе трассу произвольную (надо обозначить линиями границы дороги), далее каждый ходит на одну точку
[23:54:12] _lorien: по очредеи, в друг-друга нельзя врезаться!
[23:54:23] _lorien: плохо, что училка палит иногда, кгда мы листочнек передаём
[23:54:26] _lorien: но на литре хоть не кричит
[23:54:33] _lorien: на химии вот если что увидит, сразу вой поднимает
[23:54:43] _lorien: так чтоя не хожу на химию
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[23:55:34] _lorien: я там пробирку свистнул
[23:55:43] _lorien: выращиваю в ней дрожжи - прикольно, только воняет
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[23:55:59] _lorien: я водну пробирку я кинул соль, в другой просто вода, в третей не помню что, сахар, кажется
[23:56:15] _lorien: вот соль дрожжи жрать не хотят, а сахар ничо так хрумают
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[23:57:21] tilarids: _lorien, в гоночки еще как интересно играть - со скоростями
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[23:57:30] _lorien: ааа, да
[23:57:34] tilarids: т.е., можно ускоряться и замедляться
[23:57:57] tilarids: мы так играем на переменках
[23:57:59] _lorien: мы даже в шахматы играли помню ))
[23:58:15] _lorien: были такие карманные, там фигурки на магнитиках, вот жизнт была, в шахматы играл, а щас? Быдло быдлом
[23:58:20] _lorien: пишу код ебаный :(
[23:58:20] tilarids: _lorien, не играли, а играем
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[23:59:04] _lorien: кстати испытываю желание к шахматам последний месяц, только вот напрягает с ПЭВМ играть, она ж холодная, чувств нету у ней, понимаешь