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[00:04:39] pzskc383: правда мне qt не по нраву
[00:04:46] pzskc383: правда пофиг опера со скайпом стоят
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[03:16:16] bobry: привет полуночникам) если такие еще имеются в наличии
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[18:52:13] : xa4a установил(а) тему: Python.SU | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи на google.com | За голосом - в приват к модераторам | Код постить в dumpz.org | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://➡.ws/pu | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Третий тупой вопрос за сутки — на http://throwcatch.me | Ещё рано использовать py3k
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[19:06:30] Большой Лис: кто нибудь юзает трекеры времени?
[19:06:34] Большой Лис: f-jz птщешьу
[19:06:40] Большой Лис: а-ля gnotime
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[19:09:45] Большой Лис: я в vim-е сижу %)
[19:09:56] Большой Лис: а имакс не осиливаю
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[19:15:31] tilarids: хаскель иногда чем-то perl напоминает. Куча разных символов, безумный синтаксис, странные правила именования. Что-то мне всё меньше кажется, что на этом языке стоит что-либо писать
[19:15:38] tilarids: таки лучше питона ничего не придумали :)
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[19:29:23] cutwater: руби? :D
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[19:31:16] xa4a: /me любит питон, уважает хаскель, дописывает неделю на пхп и вообще учит жабу
[19:31:52] tilarids: cutwater: не, руби is doomed
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[19:35:09] ts33kr: C какой это, интересно, стороны...?
[19:35:50] ts33kr: xa4a, Зачем джаву?
[19:36:52] cutwater: джава ниче так :)
[19:36:57] cutwater: надо самому покурить
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[19:37:11] cutwater: просто минус в том что у нас по городу джава джуниоры нахрен никому не нужны
[19:37:19] cutwater: только с 5+ лет опытом работы
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[19:40:21] ts33kr: "[19:31:46] tilarids: cutwater: не, руби is doomed" = ниасилил, по-ходу.
[19:41:00] cutwater: ну хз.. руби медленный и реально применим только для веба
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[19:41:23] ts33kr: 1.9 не на много медленнее питона.
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[19:42:22] cutwater: но есть еще проблемы с совместимостью
[19:42:34] cutwater: ту же ROR надо патчить немного. у меня вылазили ошибки.
[19:42:55] cutwater: мне питон для веба не нравится отсутствием нормального фреймворка
[19:42:59] ts33kr: Мы говорим о руби, бля, или о ROR?
[19:43:10] ts33kr: А, Django -- уже не нормальный?
[19:43:27] cutwater: дык извини, толку от руби если нет под него сторонних библиотек ))
[19:43:31] cutwater: так же толку от py3k
[19:43:52] ts33kr: ror вполне рабочий с 1.9
[19:43:56] cutwater: Django хороший, но иногда плюешься от того что они сделали для всего свой велосипед ))
[19:43:58] ts33kr: Требует совсем не много патчинга.
[19:44:06] cutwater: ts33kr, знаю проходил ):
[19:44:25] cutwater: иногда хочется орм как sqlalchemy или темплейты как jinja2
[19:44:42] ts33kr: Ну бери tg.
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[19:44:49] ts33kr: Или пилонсы.
[19:44:51] cutwater: а от пайлонсов воротит по части архитектуры. он и не ROR и не Django
[19:45:03] cutwater: плугабельность в нем я ниасилил ))
[19:45:18] ts33kr: Угу, ты по-ходу хочешь и рыбку сьесть и на хуй сесть.
[19:45:39] cutwater: :D
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[19:46:07] ts33kr: То тебе не нравятся встроенные orm и темплейт энжены, то тебе "не ROR и не Django"
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[19:47:52] xa4a: ts33kr: джаву, т.к. попал в учебный центр, который её рассказывает за так
[19:48:34] ts33kr: xa4a, Хех. У меня от java блевотный рефлекс. Лучше уж буду говнокодить на cs/mono.
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