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[00:27:01] Большой Лис is now online
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[00:30:12] ts33kr is now xa
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[00:48:20] Optik is now Я в сети с 1:48
[00:50:00] slav0nic is now offline
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[01:30:21] ts33kr is now xa
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[02:26:57] jedgar is now online
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[03:01:47] kwis is now online
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[03:10:28] ts33kr is now xa
[03:15:28] ts33kr is now xa
[03:18:14] keyptor is now offline
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[03:20:04] kwis is now xa
[03:20:29] ts33kr is now xa
[03:25:30] ts33kr is now xa
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[03:31:42] jedgar is now away
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[03:40:01] pzskc383 is now offline
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[03:42:23] jedgar is now away
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[03:47:32] pzskc383 is now online
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[03:50:29] ts33kr is now xa
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[04:00:31] ts33kr is now xa
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[04:06:47] kwis is now online
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[04:22:03] kwis is now xa
[04:23:15] kwis is now online
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[04:38:42] kwis is now offline
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[04:38:46] kwis is now away
[04:40:31] ts33kr is now xa
[04:43:05] kwis is now xa
[04:45:31] ts33kr is now xa
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[04:55:31] ts33kr is now xa
[05:00:30] ts33kr is now xa
[05:05:31] ts33kr is now xa
[05:09:51] kwis is now online
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[05:25:31] ts33kr is now xa
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[05:38:43] lievil is now online
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[06:21:00] jedgar is now away
[06:23:43] лорд Морфий is now Жутко занят
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[06:30:33] ts33kr is now xa
[06:35:34] ts33kr is now xa
[06:40:34] ts33kr is now xa
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[06:49:55] лорд Морфий is now away
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[06:52:59] лорд Морфий is now Жутко занят
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[07:00:35] ts33kr is now xa
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[07:03:48] lievil is now online
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[07:10:35] ts33kr is now xa
[07:12:21] ilnur.soft is now online
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[07:15:36] ts33kr is now xa
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[07:21:13] lievil is now away
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[07:50:35] ts33kr is now xa
[07:50:54] лорд Морфий is now Жутко занят
[07:54:49] ilnur.soft is now online
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[07:57:55] kwis is now online
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[08:27:28] Typhon is now online
[08:30:40] ts33kr is now xa
[08:32:37] lievil is now xa
[08:35:40] ts33kr is now xa
[08:40:32] mdn is now Да, я здесь
[08:40:33] mdn is now Да, я здесь
[08:40:39] ts33kr is now xa
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[08:50:40] ts33kr is now xa
[08:51:13] trurl is now online
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[09:01:22] ts33kr is now online
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[09:05:41] ts33kr is now online
[09:06:05] mdn is now away
[09:06:07] mdn is now away
[09:08:09] mdn is now Да, я здесь
[09:08:22] 0lejka is now I'm not here right now
[09:10:05] RaD is now online
[09:10:06] RaD is now online
[09:10:41] ts33kr is now online
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[09:11:47] cutwater is now online
[09:12:16] erraen is now online
[09:12:17] erraen is now online
[09:14:01] Большой Лис is now online
[09:15:09] feedbot is now online
[09:15:11] feedbot: Finding memory leaks in Python C extensions with Valgrind http://is.gd/539a5 (www.reddit.com)
[09:15:15] feedbot is now offline
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[09:22:09] erraen is now online
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[09:27:09] erraen is now online
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[09:37:09] erraen is now online
[09:40:43] ts33kr is now online
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[09:41:33] ts33kr is now Stable.
[09:41:34] ts33kr is now Stable.
[09:42:10] erraen is now online
[09:45:44] ts33kr is now Stable.
[09:46:00] keyptor is now online
[09:46:14] RaD is now online
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[09:50:40] Большой Лис is now away
[09:50:44] ts33kr is now Stable.
[09:51:14] RaD is now online
[09:52:09] erraen is now online
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[09:55:45] ts33kr is now Stable.
[09:56:14] RaD is now online
[09:56:37] 0lejka is now I'm not here right now
[09:57:09] erraen is now online
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[09:59:24] огыешсук is now xa
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[10:00:46] ts33kr is now Stable.
[10:01:14] RaD is now online
[10:01:33] Typhon is now online
[10:02:09] erraen is now online
[10:02:12] лорд Морфий is now away
[10:05:46] ts33kr is now Stable.
[10:05:50] лорд Морфий is now online
[10:06:14] RaD is now online
[10:07:09] erraen is now online
[10:07:48] Большой Лис is now online
[10:08:35] Optik is now Я в сети с 11:08
[10:08:36] Optik is now offline
[10:08:49] Optik is now Я в сети с 11:08
[10:08:50] Optik is now Я в сети с 11:08
[10:10:46] ts33kr is now Stable.
[10:11:14] RaD is now online
[10:12:08] erraen is now online
[10:12:47] ilnur.soft is now люблю свою девочку!!!
мой микроблог http://juick.com/ilnursoft@jabber.ru/

[10:12:48] ilnur.soft is now люблю свою девочку!!!
мой микроблог http://juick.com/ilnursoft@jabber.ru/

[10:13:09] ilnur.soft is now offline
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[10:16:15] RaD is now online
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[10:20:45] ts33kr is now Stable.
[10:21:15] RaD is now online
[10:21:35] Ляпатяпа is now online
[10:22:09] erraen is now online
[10:25:45] ts33kr is now Stable.
[10:26:15] RaD is now online
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[10:30:46] ts33kr is now Stable.
[10:31:16] RaD is now online
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[10:35:46] ts33kr is now Stable.
[10:36:01] erraen is now offline
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[10:38:07] dmeshr is now online
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[10:38:29] dmeshr is now online
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[10:39:40] Ferroman is now online
[10:40:01] erraen is now online
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[10:40:46] ts33kr is now Stable.
[10:41:17] RaD is now online
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[10:43:35] mishok13 is now online
[10:44:51] 0lejka is now away
[10:45:01] erraen is now online
[10:45:02] Большой Лис is now away
[10:45:09] dmeshr is now online
[10:45:33] Typhon is now online
[10:45:46] ts33kr is now Stable.
[10:45:54] Rush (Tonop) Online is now online
[10:45:54] Rush (Tonop) Online is now offline
[10:46:17] RaD is now online
[10:46:39] Большой Лис is now online
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[10:47:03] 0lejka is now I'm not here right now
[10:48:35] trurl is now away
[10:50:00] erraen is now online
[10:50:10] dmeshr is now online
[10:50:46] ts33kr is now Stable.
[10:51:17] RaD is now online
[10:51:31] trurl is now online
[10:55:01] erraen is now online
[10:55:10] dmeshr is now online
[10:55:47] ts33kr is now Stable.
[10:56:17] RaD is now online
[10:56:59] dmeshr: привет! помогите решить проблему. у меня есть проект http://webfiles.ru/15149010 и я хочу использовать в нем south, но когда я создаю приложение с моделью и пытаюсь сделать миграцию south не может найти приложение с трейсбеком http://dumpz.org/14627/ посоветуйте, что можно сделать?
[10:58:27] ts33kr: dmeshr, Doesn't seem like south problem. It's rather you've misconfigured the project.
[10:59:25] dmeshr: я знаю это, но что можно сделать чтобы south смог найти приложение?
[10:59:54] keyptor is now online
[10:59:59] ts33kr: Прописать его правильно в конфиг, расположить в директории.
[11:00:01] erraen is now online
[11:00:10] dmeshr is now online
[11:00:24] ts33kr: Я вообще там не вижу никакого tracker
[11:00:33] ts33kr: Ни в конфиге, ни в самом проекте
[11:00:47] ts33kr is now Stable.
[11:01:17] RaD is now online
[11:02:50] tilarids is now online
[11:05:01] erraen is now online
[11:05:11] dmeshr is now online
[11:05:47] ts33kr is now Stable.
[11:06:17] RaD is now online
[11:07:29] RaD is now offline
[11:08:00] kwis is now away
[11:10:01] erraen is now online
[11:10:11] dmeshr is now online
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[11:10:47] ts33kr is now Stable.
[11:13:03] kwis is now online
[11:15:01] erraen is now online
[11:15:11] dmeshr is now online
[11:15:47] ts33kr is now Stable.
[11:16:17] Typhon is now offline
[11:16:19] slav0nic is now online
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[11:16:59] Большой Лис is now offline
[11:20:01] erraen is now online
[11:20:11] dmeshr is now online
[11:20:47] ts33kr is now Stable.
[11:24:23] poltergeist is now away
[11:24:24] poltergeist is now away
[11:24:27] RaD is now online
[11:24:29] RaD is now online
[11:25:01] erraen is now online
[11:25:12] dmeshr is now online
[11:25:29] RaD is now online
[11:25:47] ts33kr is now Stable.
[11:28:44] piranha is now Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication
[11:29:34] ts33kr is now away
[11:29:35] ts33kr is now away
[11:29:46] ts33kr is now Stable.
[11:29:47] ts33kr is now Stable.
[11:30:01] erraen is now online
[11:30:12] dmeshr is now online
[11:30:14] ts33kr is now online
[11:30:15] ts33kr is now online
[11:30:29] RaD is now online
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[11:32:23] poltergeist is now xa
[11:32:24] poltergeist is now xa
[11:33:17] nmk is now online
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[11:35:01] erraen is now online
[11:35:12] dmeshr is now online
[11:35:30] RaD is now online
[11:35:46] ts33kr is now online
[11:36:11] ts33kr is now offline
[11:36:21] лорд Морфий is now away
[11:36:48] dmeshr: ts33kr упс, я забыл его выложить
[11:36:55] ts33kr is now online
[11:36:56] ts33kr is now online
[11:36:57] dmeshr: дело действительно в конфиге было
[11:37:01] ts33kr is now online
[11:37:11] ts33kr is now online
[11:37:22] ts33kr is now online
[11:37:26] dmeshr: я в INSTALLED_APPS прописывал trackers а надо было project.trackers
[11:37:38] dmeshr: но все равно спасибо что откликнулся
[11:38:16] dmeshr is now offline
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[11:39:06] ts33kr is now online
[11:40:03] erraen is now online
[11:40:30] RaD is now online
[11:42:38] pzskc383 is now offline
[11:42:40] pzskc383 is now online
[11:43:40] Portnov is now online
[11:43:56] Portnov is now offline
[11:44:03] poltergeist is now online
[11:44:06] ts33kr is now online
[11:44:57] лорд Морфий is now online
[11:45:02] erraen is now online
[11:45:30] RaD is now online
[11:46:38] огыешсук is now offline
[11:47:36] Ляпатяпа is now xa
[11:49:07] ts33kr is now online
[11:50:02] erraen is now online
[11:50:30] RaD is now online
[11:53:52] trurl is now away
[11:54:07] ts33kr is now online
[11:54:24] Ляпатяпа is now online
[11:55:03] erraen is now online
[11:55:18] PC is now online
[11:55:31] RaD is now online
[11:55:52] trurl is now online
[11:59:07] ts33kr is now online
[12:00:03] erraen is now online
[12:00:30] RaD is now online
[12:00:33] piranha is now offline
[12:00:46] piranha is now Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication
[12:02:45] RaD is now offline
[12:02:46] Ferroman is now offline
[12:04:07] ts33kr is now online
[12:05:03] erraen is now online
[12:06:31] lievil is now away
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[13:06:01] RaD: [django]: подскажите, как по syncdb организовать преднаполнение django_flatpage?
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[13:09:32] RaD: просто в приложение/проект?
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[14:15:08] feedbot: Charming Python: Easy Web data collection with mechanize and Beautiful Soup http://is.gd/53jvP (www.reddit.com)
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[14:20:40] dmeshr: не получается с помощью south сделать миграцию для m2m поля
[14:20:51] dmeshr: не создается промежуточная таблица
[14:21:00] dmeshr: кто-нибудь знает в чем дело?
[14:21:34] slav0nic: дело в south!
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[14:22:01] dmeshr: хм
[14:22:48] dmeshr: а есть какой-нибудь workaround
[14:23:06] dmeshr: или может есть инструмент типа south получше?
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[14:24:55] Ляпатяпа: substitutions = dict(
(i, dict((var, int(self.POST.get('s-%s-%d' % (var, i))))))
for i in numbers for var in vars)
скажите, 6 скобок это пиздец или нет?
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[14:27:44] dmeshr: slav0nic только что pull сделал
[14:27:48] dmeshr: не помогает
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[14:37:52] dmeshr: http://south.aeracode.org/wiki/FAQ#WhycantIuse--add-fieldwithaManyToManyfieldthatusesathroughmodel вроде вот, но что-то не то помоему
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[14:38:56] Ляпатяпа: предыдущий вариант был неработоспособный, с dict и for напутал
[14:39:07] Ляпатяпа: вот что работает:
substitutions = dict(
(i, dict((var, self.POST.get('s-%s-%d' % (var, i)))
for var in vars)) for i in numbers)
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[14:44:56] klichuk: попробуйте, у всех bitbucket.org отвалился?
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[14:48:32] ts33kr: Сперва открылось нормально.
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[15:46:59] begemot: Шалом, ребята!
Кто юзал django-cms? Можно ли попробовать?
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[15:47:56] огыешсук: /me разрешает
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[15:48:17] begemot: благодарю! тогда пойду попробую
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[16:05:28] alexander.danilov: Привет всем. Посоветуйте пожалуйста, как логичнее сделать. Мне нужно пройтись по папке, в которой есть подпапки и подгрузить из каждой подпапки по одному файлу. Файлы содержат код на питоне.
[16:05:59] alexander.danilov: Я полагаю, что лучше сделать это через функцию __import__, но как быть с тем, что её не рекомендуют?
[16:06:45] mishok13: а почему ты не хочешь добавить к sys.path нужный путь?
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[16:11:16] alexander.danilov: Так нет, проблема не в том, как найти файл, а в том, как лучше его подгрузить?
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[16:12:14] alexander.danilov: на сколько логично использовать модуль imp, с методом load_module?
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[16:13:28] alexander.danilov: Окей, задам вопрос иначе: есть переменная, которой содержится имя модуля, как лучше подгрузить этот модуль, зная, что его название есть в переменной?
[16:15:08] mishok13: __import__, просто помни что это темная стороная силы
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[16:15:30] alexander.danilov: Спасибо, но ведь должна же быть и белая сторона :)
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[16:15:35] mishok13: она есть
[16:15:37] mishok13: в 2.7
[16:15:39] mishok13: importlib
[16:16:22] alexander.danilov: Отлично! Спасибо, значит пока __import__ Спасибо огромное! :)
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[16:17:12] огыешсук: а шо, уже 2.7 вышел?
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[16:18:55] alexander.danilov: нет, но видимо, скоро выйдет.
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[16:20:19] mishok13: ну есть 3.1, который уже вышел
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[16:20:28] mishok13: но на котором никто не хочет писать :)
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[16:23:08] dicos: mishok13, я думаю, что только из-за того, что много на 2-й ветке написано
[16:23:09] огыешсук: ещё бы, в тройке ж проценты отменили
[16:23:22] огыешсук: как без них жить
[16:23:28] mishok13: огыешсук, ?
[16:23:33] dicos: огыешсук то ксть проценты?
[16:23:41] dicos: *есть
[16:23:50] mishok13: dicos, это скорее привычная инертность
[16:24:07] mishok13: уходить с 2.x нету причин
[16:24:11] mishok13: поэтому и не уходят
[16:24:24] mishok13: а новые приложения (некоторые) уже таки пишут на py3k
[16:24:57] огыешсук: А, нет, не отменили. Странно, вроде ж собирались? :o\
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[16:25:54] огыешсук: Значит, можно будет начинать на 3.1 мигрировать, благо в debian Оно есть.
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[16:25:59] mishok13: собирались только некоторые девы
[16:26:17] mishok13: остальные покрутили у виска и продолжили переносить сишный код на тройку
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[16:28:02] dicos: mishok13, не так просто взять и переписать
[16:28:30] mishok13: я ж не спорю
[16:28:38] mishok13: пользы в этом нету
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[16:28:55] mishok13: (финансовой)
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[16:28:58] ts33kr is now online
[16:29:09] mishok13: (в среднесрочной перспективе)
[16:29:40] dicos: Как я понял, вторая ветка еще будет поддерживаться только 2 года
[16:29:56] mishok13: эм...
[16:29:59] mishok13: еще не решено
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[16:30:49] dicos: видимо мне показалось...
[16:32:08] mishok13: поддерживаться 2 года, это очень мало
[16:32:20] mishok13: релиз 2.7 будет в 2010
[16:32:22] огыешсук: так питон довольно молод ещё
[16:32:24] mishok13: летом, по-моему
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[16:32:43] огыешсук: чай не перл, когда 5.8 по пять лет висит
[16:32:48] mishok13: стандартный период, когда принимают багфиксы к релизу -- около года
[16:33:09] mishok13: потом идёт maintenance mode, когда принимают security фиксы
[16:33:16] mishok13: 12-24 месяцев
[16:33:22] mishok13: потом ветка консервируется
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[16:33:42] dicos: огыешсук, что-то перерыв между 2.3 был больше 2-х лет
[16:33:53] mishok13: так что теоретически, ветка 2.x закончит свое существование только в 2013
[16:33:58] mishok13: может даже в 2014
[16:34:06] mishok13: скорее всего 2.8 не будет
[16:34:13] огыешсук: куда ж денется
[16:34:16] mishok13: но это ждем решения ГвР
[16:34:42] mishok13: Реймонд, МвЛ и Антуан против, а это около 50% кода
[16:34:47] mishok13: за только МАЛ
[16:35:05] mishok13: но у него вообще пунктик, весь его код совместим с 1.6
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[16:36:21] dicos: вот, нашел, разница между 2,2,3 и 2,3,7 составляет примерно 5 лет
[16:36:41] dicos: огыешсук, так что зря на перл наезжаешь :)
[16:36:56] огыешсук: /me не наезжает
[16:36:59] огыешсук: /me гордицца
[16:37:31] mishok13: я всё-таки думаю, секюрити релизы лучше не мерять
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[16:38:05] dicos: То есть? была 2.2.*, стала 2.3.*
[16:38:26] dicos: Были незначительные изменения в языке
[16:38:34] mishok13: :/
[16:38:40] mishok13: 2.2 вышла в декабре 2001
[16:38:58] mishok13: после этого началась работа над 2.3, параллельно идут багфиксы в 2.2
[16:39:07] mishok13: 2.3 вышла в июле 2003
[16:39:23] dicos: /me не там смотрит
[16:39:45] mishok13: ты смотришь на дату секьюрити релизов
[16:39:59] mishok13: мерять же надо по начальным релизам
[16:40:05] dicos: да, я смотрю на страницу закачек
[16:40:08] mishok13: иначе теплое с мягким получается меряешь
[16:40:13] dicos: ты прав
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[17:27:33] xa4a_: http://ua2.php.net/manual/en/function.rand.php#91135
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[17:29:19] mishok13: ну, слегка не доработали имплементацию :)
[17:30:05] xa4a_: не.. это ответ на коменты ниже
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[17:30:32] xa4a_: типа чувак нашёл код, который рандомный элемент массива выбирает, но этот код нулевой элемент, почему-то, никогда не выбирает
[17:30:54] xa4a_: $max = mysql_num_rows($lekerdezes);
$rand = rand(1,$max);
[17:32:24] xa4a_: ну он и исправил, чтобы выбирал: $rand = rand(1,$max) - 1;
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[17:32:47] xa4a_: (демонстрирует ход мысли среднего пхпшника)
[17:32:57] mishok13: бля
[17:33:06] mishok13: мой мозг расплавился
[17:33:12] dicos: Вот этот мощный код http://ua2.php.net/manual/en/function.rand.php#89343
[17:33:39] dicos: Вместо одного запроса делаем 2
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[17:34:43] mishok13: but this is not the best way, because it's very slow by a big database (it can take more minutes to complete the request!)
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[17:34:52] mishok13: как бы обьясняет нам автор сего опуса
[17:35:09] mishok13: the best way is here, it VERY VERY slow, not just very slow
[17:35:14] mishok13: who needs very slow anyway
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[17:41:56] xa4a_: FUCK PHP. таки код первый - правильный. rand(0,1) генерирует и 0 и 1 >_<
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[17:58:25] wonderfulll: мож кто в Джанге сталкивался с такой ошибкой Error binding parameter 0 - probably unsupported type.? кидает когды пытаюсь принт обьекта сделать
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[18:10:23] dicos: wonderfulll что хочешь отобразить на экране?
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[18:10:58] wonderfulll: да любой вывод объекта делая кидает такоу ошибку
[18:11:15] wonderfulll: есть подозрения на SQLite
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[18:11:43] wonderfulll: через шелл всё работает
[18:12:37] wonderfulll: точнее когда хочу вывести объекты после фильтрации
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[18:32:15] xa4a_: Error binding parameter 0
[18:32:33] xa4a_: это при prepared sql statements
[18:33:08] xa4a_: wonderfulll: давай уже показывай код __unicode__()
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[20:31:19] Большой Лис: http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/funny-pictures-basement-cats-escape.jpg
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[21:24:04] wiz: ШГ
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[21:24:54] wiz: /me правда не знает что это означает, но часто видел под скринами в коментах... видимо это какое-то одобрение, да? (=
[21:25:16] cutwater: о awesome
[21:25:18] cutwater: круть
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[21:25:36] cutwater: sevenov, а ты конфижил? как раскладки настраивал?
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[21:26:05] sevenov: cutwater, эээ, hal/xorg.conf и еще куча способов
[21:26:14] sevenov: wiz, ^^
[21:26:17] cutwater: ясно
[21:26:36] cutwater: сонфиг можешь скинуть как-нибудь ?
[21:26:37] sevenov: cutwater, aw дефолтовый же, ну. Они заебали с версии к версии менять конфиг
[21:26:42] cutwater: ясно
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[21:28:46] огыешсук: sevenov: а на вкладке "пиранья" сплошные пираньи?
[21:29:03] sevenov: :D
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[21:29:42] piranha: >_<
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[21:42:17] mdn is now Да, я здесь
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[22:21:43] piranha: "Дорогой Зенон", - написал Ахиллес, - "Я все еще не догоняю..."
[22:23:02] piranha: http://www.developers.org.ua/calendar/event/t0uhi7url08jofsvlj9u4i2k0s/
[22:23:05] piranha: никто не собирается?
[22:23:41] piranha: mishok13: ты ж доклад там читаешь?
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[22:26:50] bobry: .org.ua, активно у вас там что то
[22:27:27] piranha: :-)
[22:27:31] piranha: это нормальная ситуация
[22:28:00] piranha: жаль, что Ваня забросил заниматься эксепшеном ;)
[22:28:15] bobry: а что, больше не будет их?
[22:28:41] bobry: то то я думаю давно ничего не слышно)
[22:29:27] piranha: ну хз, будет или нет
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[22:29:30] piranha: но он пока что забросил
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[22:29:59] Typhon: тренингами вроде всякими занимается сейчас? :)
[22:30:22] xa4a: я иду
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[22:31:09] piranha: Typhon: ага, я б даже сказал выбиванием бабла с лохов
[22:31:25] piranha: какие-то там просветления и прочая хрень
[22:32:55] bobry: просветления? вау
[22:33:03] bobry: psyco stuff чтоли?
[22:33:29] piranha: да короче не знаю я )
[22:33:33] piranha: всякое самопросветление, развитие как личности и прочий дзен
[22:33:34] Typhon: 3 чакра и Расширение Сознания (тм), я думаю )
[22:33:35] xa4a: http://lurkmore.ru/%D0%A2%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B3_%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%87%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE_%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0
[22:33:38] piranha: ага
[22:33:47] xa4a: Тренинги личностного роста
[22:34:07] bobry: ))
[22:34:26] piranha: http://vetertann.livejournal.com/?tag=%D0%9C%D0%B8%D1%84
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[22:35:03] piranha: клëвая тема
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[22:53:09] sevenov: тыкните меня в доку как пейсать жабир транспорт.
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[22:54:58] wiz: !google processone jabber transport
[22:55:06] wiz: бл...
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[22:56:32] wiz: собственно писать его просто
[22:56:56] sevenov: но доков что-то не вижу
[22:57:06] wiz: берёшь любую xmpp либу, XEP и пишешь.
[22:57:10] sevenov: расковыривать всякие транспорты - жеть
[22:57:14] sevenov: *жесть
[22:57:18] wiz: *жепь
[22:58:13] wiz: у толи xmpppy, толи pyxmpp был типа минифреймворк как раз для транспортов - с регистрацией, формами и прочим блэкджеком
[22:58:31] sevenov: xmpppy я вообще не перевариваю
[22:58:46] wiz: а твистед вордс? (8
[22:58:53] wiz: пиши на node.js тогда
[22:59:12] wiz: xmlstream там как нефи нафиг по-идее пишется, а дальше уже как обычно
[22:59:30] erraen is now online
[22:59:37] wiz: у питона больно уж низкоуровневые интерфейсы к xmpp
[22:59:57] piranha: sevenov: http://prosody.im ?:-)
[23:00:02] wiz: буквально на тебе message, iq, presence и ебсиь конём
[23:00:17] wiz: буа...
[23:00:22] sevenov: piranha, нафига?
[23:00:44] sevenov: задача написать на: C++ / Python / Java.
[23:00:52] sevenov: первый и третий - блевота
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[23:01:28] wiz: а куда транспорт то?
[23:01:41] wiz: скорее всего получится твистед без вариантов
[23:02:06] sevenov: wiz, ну jabber -> transport -(10000 clients)> X
[23:02:49] tilarids: sevenov, use twisted и не выделывайся :)
[23:02:51] wiz: ёп
[23:03:10] wiz: или эрланг лол
[23:03:20] tilarids: низзя эрланг
[23:03:28] sevenov: tilarids, дык его и собираюсь. Мне док бы как пейсать ;-) Эх, лень xep раскуривать...
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[23:03:36] sevenov: *XEP
[23:03:42] wiz: а там всё в херах
[23:03:46] wiz: они простые кстати
[23:03:49] tilarids: !g writing xmpp transport using twisted
[23:04:01] wiz: я всякие PEP меньше чем за день раскурил
[23:04:14] wiz: вот с формами там да, перемудрили они
[23:04:21] wiz: а так - message in, message out
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[23:06:42] dmeshr: re
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[23:08:54] sevenov: лол http://www.linux.org.ru/view-message.jsp?msgid=4273831&lastmod=1259183310672
[23:09:01] dmeshr: подскажите как в http://dumpz.org/14653/ сделать в модели Issue так, чтобы для объекта использовались статусы выбранные в модели Tracker
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[23:11:12] xa4a: File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/mercurial/revlog.py", line 68, in hash s.update(text)TypeError: object supporting the buffer API required
[23:11:17] xa4a: хана?
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[23:20:08] piranha: xa4a: лучше на канале спросить
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[23:21:25] wiz: или на раёне
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[23:34:43] dmeshr: как в моей модели Issue использовать только те статусы которые выбраны в трекере?
[23:34:56] dmeshr: http://dumpz.org/14653/
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[23:51:33] xa4a: пока дошёл до канала меркуриала нашёл, что это его некомпатибельность с тройкой
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[23:51:37] xa4a: в которой sha()
[23:51:48] xa4a: работает с байтами, а не со строками
[23:52:33] xa4a: и соотв в 2.7
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[23:57:45] xa4a: фикс: File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/mercurial/revlog.py", line 68, in hash s.update(text) => s.update(bytes(text))