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[07:15:16] feedbot: Подводные грабли web, django, python — Ситуация с Many-to-Many в django http://is.gd/53Qmu (feedproxy.google.com)
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[09:24:55] ilnur.soft is now люблю свою девочку!!!
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[09:24:56] ilnur.soft is now люблю свою девочку!!!
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[09:40:30] Большой Лис: http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2009/11/hard-facts-about-comment-spam.html

гугель жЫсток
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[09:52:13] wiz_: проблема со спамом не в том, что он как-то особенно эффективен [и поэтому его продают], а в том, что есть стада уебанов, которые готовы его покупать.
[09:53:57] Большой Лис: мало того, есть её одно стадо (но поменьше) которое готово самолично бегать по всему инету и расставлять свои говнокомменты с сылкой на свой сайт
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[09:54:20] Большой Лис: ну теперь то вот это второе стадо, малость попустится
[09:54:28] Большой Лис: ...может быть
[09:54:29] Большой Лис: :D
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[09:57:40] wiz_: если они читают блог гугла, ага
[09:57:52] wiz_: надо везде на него ссылок поставить чтоль (=
[09:57:54] wiz_: в топ!
[09:58:27] Большой Лис: ну, кто нибудь из них пронесёт "вирус знания" внутрь стада обязательно
[09:58:45] wiz_: лучше бы сразу вирус живительной эвтаназии
[09:59:26] Большой Лис: :D
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[11:15:08] feedbot: Event-based asynchronous pattern http://is.gd/53W4u (www.reddit.com)
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[12:52:19] slav0nic: попал на врачиху линуксоида, сидит в Gentoo %))
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[13:00:24] wiz_: ты там осторожней, а то пересоберёт ещё не с теми ключами
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[13:00:41] огыешсук: /me . o 0 (оптимизацию включит)
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[13:02:15] mishok13: проктолог?
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[13:17:47] ts33kr: mishok13, Видимо угадал. Судя по скудному ")" смайлу.
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[13:21:03] wiz_: (8
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[13:22:01] sevenov: ололо
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[13:22:13] sevenov: slav0nic, руки на месте? А то мало ли, пересобрала
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[13:23:07] slav0nic: да я ваще херею с нашей медицины, гонит чё пришёл, вали к терапевту, пох что на учёте стою и написано каждые полгода обследоваться
[13:23:13] slav0nic: а врач, нефролог, не надейтесь)
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[13:28:06] огыешсук: а это чего врач?
[13:28:29] slav0nic: почки
[13:28:37] sevenov: чпоки
[13:28:39] slav0nic: /me не алкаш, так получилось)
[13:28:51] огыешсук: алкаши это вроде как печень, нет?
[13:29:33] piranha: почки всем, кто в этом чате...
[13:30:03] slav0nic: огыешсук, ну и она тоже
[13:30:07] ts33kr: огыешсук, Почки тоже в расход идут.
[13:30:19] ts33kr: Когда печень начинает лажать, и не фильтрует кровь как нужно.
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[13:30:51] ts33kr: Все это дерьмо разносится про кровеносной и лимфатической системах, и почки -- следующие, кто захлебываются говнецом.
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[13:31:03] огыешсук: ужасы какие
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[14:34:06] mishok13: Why doesn't C++ have a garbage collector? Because there would be nothing left!
[14:34:23] Большой Лис: :D
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[14:36:58] Typhon: баян ^_^
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[14:59:13] slav0nic: ts33kr, о, ты в гаджим стал активно контрибутить?
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[14:59:35] ts33kr: Не то, чтоб активно.
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[15:00:00] ts33kr: Ну а так -- да, уж давно. Относительно.
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[15:01:18] slav0nic: по-моему после ухода Кирова код поунылей стал )
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[15:01:35] ts33kr: dkirov?
[15:01:43] ts33kr: По-моему он дебил.
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[15:02:09] slav0nic: ну давно дело было)
[15:02:13] ts33kr: Потому, что человека, который лепит `return None` в _конце_ функции в питоне -- по-другому как-то сложно назвать.
[15:02:20] piranha is now away
[15:02:23] ts33kr: А так -- да, код очень стремный местами.
[15:02:44] slav0nic: новая версия озу не так жрёт? при большом ростере
[15:02:51] slav0nic: и когда в конфе народу дохера
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[15:03:09] ts33kr: Новая версия бажная.
[15:03:17] ts33kr: Через пару дней будет фикс-релиз.
[15:03:20] ts33kr: 0.13.1
[15:03:24] slav0nic: )
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[15:05:48] Большой Лис: http://i.imgur.com/mC1zF.png
[15:06:01] ts33kr: slav0nic, А насчет рама -- ну была пофиксена утечека со спелл чекером, и так, по-мелочи. Врядли это будет заметно.
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[15:53:46] piranha: "I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true, because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone." - Bjarne Stroustrup
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[15:54:23] mishok13: борец за простоту бля
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[15:54:49] piranha: mishok13: именно это и порадовало )
[15:55:08] xa4a_: там написано to use
[15:55:13] xa4a_: а не to program
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[15:55:59] mishok13: программировать телефоны всегда было сложнее чем компьютеры
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[15:56:18] piranha: C++ is very hard to use
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[16:28:19] xa4a_: ку
[16:28:43] RaD: ку
[16:29:06] RaD: народ, кто в курсе использования sqlloader ораклинного, особенно интересует опция silent
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[16:32:20] xa4a_: http://www.reddit.com/r/vim/comments/a6u9t/which_one_is_your_favorite_vim_feature_that_more/ кто изучает вим - выписывать на бумажку советы и учить
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[16:34:09] xa4a_: Re: t/f T/F: I remember it as "To" the character and "Fuck the character, delete it"
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[16:50:12] mishok13: чуваки, может кто подскажет какой-нибудь шрифт который в 7-8 размере еще читабелен?
[16:50:20] mishok13: пушо дежавю тупо умирает
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[16:51:11] Большой Лис: verdana8 тудасюда, кое-как
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[16:51:36] mishok13: щас попробуем-с
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[16:54:07] mishok13: спасибо, но вердана тоже как-то не очень
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[16:54:32] Большой Лис: ну я предупреждал
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[16:56:28] ts33kr: mishok13, Tahoma, слизанная с WinXP
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[16:56:35] ts33kr: С DPI 96x96
[16:56:46] ts33kr: На 8 вполне читабельна.
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[16:57:03] mishok13: эээ
[16:57:07] Большой Лис: mishok13, а что за странное желание?
[16:57:14] mishok13: Tahoma низзя, тахома не free
[16:57:27] Большой Лис: на карту нанести?
[16:57:28] ts33kr: Ну, ...
[16:57:29] mishok13: Большой Лис, пишу staticmaps
[16:57:34] mishok13: надо копирайт влепить
[16:57:46] mishok13: вот и ищу свободный шрифт который много места не будет занимать
[16:57:51] mishok13: текст уже некуда сокращать
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[16:59:18] xa4a_: http://www.smashingmagazine.com/tag/typography/
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[17:02:11] piranha: mishok13: а хельветика не?
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[17:03:17] RaD: use pixel graphics :)
[17:03:20] mishok13: она разве свободная?
[17:03:43] mishok13: о, нашел, по-моему
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[17:03:51] mishok13: AtariSmall.ttf :)
[17:04:02] piranha: гхм
[17:04:07] piranha: mishok13: и кого нашëл?
[17:04:09] mishok13: http://www.dafont.com/atari.font?nb_ppp=50&l[]=10&l[]=0&text=%A9+2009+CloudMade
[17:04:30] piranha: :)))))
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[17:36:26] Portnov: так, товарищи джангисты, а шо, на джанге нет нормальной вики? или я её не нашёл?
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[17:36:46] Муркт: ты хотел что-то там дописать?
[17:36:48] piranha: нет
[17:36:51] Portnov: шоб с правами, с историей и диффами итп
[17:36:57] Большой Лис: нормальной вики вообще не существует в природе
[17:37:10] Portnov: ну хотя б уровня dokuwiki
[17:37:14] piranha: Portnov: никому не надо
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[17:37:20] piranha: есть hatta wiki
[17:37:25] piranha: она не на джанге, но какая разница? :Д
[17:37:35] Portnov: вобщем да. Но на питоне?
[17:37:56] piranha: ага
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[17:38:05] piranha: но простая до жути, зато клëвая )
[17:38:13] piranha: на питоне, чтоб много возможностей - это мойнмойн
[17:38:18] Typhon: moinmoin )
[17:38:37] piranha: оно по фичам заруливает всë вокруг, но и размер соответствующий ;)
[17:38:57] Portnov: размер фиг с ним. А к нему можно другую разметку прикрутить?
[17:38:58] Большой Лис: и ещё, моинмоин на файлах
[17:39:23] piranha: и на базе вроде уже тоже
[17:39:40] Portnov: у меня задача несколько оригинальная. Надо вики, но чтобы для разметки юзался asciidoc.
[17:39:42] piranha: Portnov: на самом деле они вроде там тратили кучу времени на модуляризацию, потому может уже и можно
[17:39:50] piranha: хах
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[17:40:38] Typhon: в moinmoin были плагины для смены разметки, емнип
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[17:41:17] mishok13: а чо там за вики движок на битбакете?
[17:41:25] piranha: их собственный
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[17:41:33] mishok13: вот козлы :)
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[17:41:43] piranha: а нах оно тебе?
[17:41:48] piranha: hattawiki
[17:42:35] mishok13: мне не надо, я просто поинтересовался на волне разговора о вики
[17:42:53] piranha: а ;-)
[17:42:56] огыешсук: /me . o 0 (ymacs.org)
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[17:45:05] tilarids: мне нужно в питоновской программе препроцессить файлы, в которых используются Сшные дефайны. Кто-нибудь такое делал?
[17:45:10] tilarids: gcc -E не совсем то, что мне надо
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[17:45:34] mishok13: в плане, препроцессить?
[17:45:40] mishok13: чо делать с дефайнами-то?
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[17:46:08] tilarids: mishok13: было
#define HELLO(x) Hello, x
HELLO(man)

Получить:
Hello, man
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[17:46:51] Portnov: popen("cpp source.file") ?
[17:47:04] mishok13: черт, не успел
[17:47:06] tilarids: Portnov: <tilarids> gcc -E не совсем то, что мне надо
[17:47:22] mishok13: значит тебе не просто надо препроцессить
[17:47:23] Portnov: соответственно вопрос - чем не подходит
[17:47:30] mishok13: что-то еще должно быть, да?
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[17:48:08] ts33kr: (интересно, какой садист такое написал)
[17:48:16] ts33kr: Напоминает haskell + cpp
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[17:49:03] tilarids: Portnov: во-первых, мне нужно кроссплатформенное решение. Таскать с собой gcc я не хочу, а то, что каждый используемый компайлер я смогу заюзать - это не факт
[17:49:29] ts33kr: tilarids, Если тебе нужно кросплатформенное решение -- не нужно было писать эту лажу =)
[17:49:40] ts33kr: Или сразу писать под нее препроцессор.
[17:49:47] mishok13: ну тогда, уж извините, pyparsing в руки и вперед
[17:49:51] ts33kr: Угу.
[17:50:11] tilarids: ts33kr: какую лажу? Ты о чём?
[17:50:30] ts33kr: .py приправленный директивами сишного препроцессора.
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[17:50:37] ts33kr: По-моему, это fail...
[17:50:40] tilarids: ts33kr: фак, учись читать
[17:50:46] piranha: а откуда там .py?
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[17:50:51] tilarids: именно
[17:51:12] tilarids: я текстовые файлы препроцессю
[17:51:24] ts33kr: Ааа, я не так прочел.
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[17:51:45] tilarids: mishok13: решение с pyparsing очевидно, но я сначала решил убедиться, что не напишу велосипед
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[17:51:55] tilarids: гугл мне не помог
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[17:52:53] ts33kr: Но у меня есть оправдание, гыг...
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[17:53:03] ts33kr: Даже два.
[17:53:23] piranha: ts33kr: блин, меня так тянет сказать это, не принимай близко к сердцу
[17:53:28] piranha: nobody cares
[17:53:31] piranha: :D
[17:53:33] ts33kr: http://dumpz.org/14670/
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[17:53:51] ts33kr: Второе немного более феерично
[17:53:57] piranha: ts33kr: и это канал про питон, что тоже даëт себя знать
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[17:54:57] ts33kr: http://dumpz.org/14671/
[17:55:00] ts33kr: х_Х
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[17:56:14] ts33kr: piranha, Ты линк-то заценил?
[17:56:20] ts33kr: Каркаешь...
[17:56:26] tilarids: видимо, это писал человек полностью охваченый плюсами
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[17:56:32] piranha: ts33kr: ааааааывалоыжвдаоывда
[17:56:34] piranha: прусь
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[17:56:47] ts33kr: tilarids, Какие плюсы, что с тобой, дорогой?
[17:56:50] ts33kr: Java
[17:57:07] ts33kr: (Где ты в плюсах интерфейсы видел?)
[17:57:26] tilarids: ts33kr: я про второй линк
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[17:57:42] ts33kr: Так тоже типичный джава подход.
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[17:57:53] ts33kr: Проперти-то у их нету.
[17:57:54] tilarids: а, стоп, это методы класса
[17:58:10] ts33kr: По-этому эти типичные пачки геттеров/сеттеров.
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[17:58:59] mishok13: пиздец
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[17:59:09] mishok13: (извините)
[17:59:12] bahus: Господа, есть такой вопрос: с помощью object.__getattr__(self, name) можно выяснить имена методов, которые вызывались у какого-нибудь класса и эти методы не существовали для данного класса, а есть ли способ узнать с какими аргументами эти методы вызывались?
[17:59:14] ts33kr: А вы говорите прочитал не так...
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[17:59:22] piranha: :)
[17:59:23] ts33kr: У меня уже глаза нахер вываливаются
[17:59:39] ts33kr: Видели бы вы еще форматирование изначальное...
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[18:02:27] piranha: бляяяя гае должен умереть
[18:02:35] piranha: щас я пока задеплою, моë приложение заблокируют
[18:02:38] piranha: жлобыыы
[18:02:43] piranha: аргх
[18:02:50] piranha: /me бьëтся головой об стену
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[21:11:00] pr0ks: Добрый вечер. Ребят, решил тут создать "гостевого" юзера с id = -1.. дабы не присываивать к ForeignKey полю null = True в других моделях. Никаких проблем в будущем не возникнет?
[21:11:05] pr0ks: Речь о django
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[21:12:22] pr0ks: Я вот не могу придумать пока ситуации, когда отрицательный id бы мне помешал
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[21:17:16] Большой Лис: зачем вообще хранить гостевого юзера в БД?
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[21:18:33] pr0ks: Чтобы django лишних запросов не делал
[21:18:46] pr0ks: и вытягивал юезра сразу, если тянем модель, ссылающуюся на него
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[21:20:28] Большой Лис: зачем моделям ссылатся на анонизмуса?
[21:20:44] Большой Лис: типо "каммент оставил анонимус"?
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[21:21:01] pr0ks: Нее
[21:21:01] Большой Лис: дак это просто NULL в поле user_id
[21:21:08] Большой Лис: а зачем ещё?!
[21:21:13] Большой Лис: я больше не вижу смыслов
[21:22:32] Большой Лис: pr0ks, я скажу тебе откуда у тебя это мысль дурная. так обычно поступают во всяких дрянных PHP движках. хз зачем. но мутят.
давно с PHP завязал? :)
[21:22:34] pr0ks: Единственная причина - select_related. А если там будут null`ы, то сообщения анонимусов не выведутся. Если я не ошибаюсь.
[21:23:02] Большой Лис: о_О
[21:23:04] Большой Лис: чочо?!
[21:23:12] pr0ks: Стоп
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[21:23:16] Большой Лис: что бы показать камменты
[21:23:19] pr0ks: django цепляет их join`ом?
[21:23:32] Большой Лис: select_related зацеипт АВТОРОВ
[21:23:35] Большой Лис: а не комменты
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[21:23:51] Большой Лис: что бы показать камменты, ты дёргаешь модель Comment
[21:23:57] Большой Лис: Comment.object.all()
[21:24:07] Большой Лис: не all() конечно
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[21:24:14] Большой Лис: а с фильтрацией какойто
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[21:24:18] Большой Лис: но для простоты all()
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[21:24:25] pr0ks: Угу. И, допустим, хочу вытянуть сразу и авторов одним запросом
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[21:24:35] Большой Лис: ну вот и мутишь, slect_related
[21:24:47] Большой Лис: там где нормальные юзеры там всё подтянет
[21:25:00] pr0ks: А где нет, то каменты не вытянутся
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[21:25:17] Большой Лис: а там где null там и будет null (None)
[21:25:25] Большой Лис: дапле
[21:25:41] Большой Лис: не верю (но допускаю)
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[21:26:06] Большой Лис: если это так, это ещё один гвозть в джангу
[21:26:14] Большой Лис: гвоздь*
[21:27:25] pr0ks: Хм, хорошо, пошел поставлю эксперимент.. Еще вернусь
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[21:36:02] sevenov_: утро
[21:36:14] sevenov_: а чочо, в конфах можно ники регать?
[21:37:22] Большой Лис: давно
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[21:38:15] sevenov_: щетай я ник проебал
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[21:45:28] sevenov_: Напейсал ermine, может чем поможет.
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[22:22:08] sevenov_: Ну что, теперь я Sevenov и если встретите sevenov'a, то запоминайте jid :D
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[22:22:16] Sevenov: во
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[22:25:51] Муркт: Sevenov: ты теперь Мужик? :)
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[22:26:11] Sevenov: Муркт, да, с Большой Буквы! :)
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[22:26:24] Муркт: это называется Заглавная
[22:26:39] Sevenov: нене, это фраза такая
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[22:44:57] ~oTkPoBeHuE~: Здесь pys60 обсуждают? :)
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[22:45:14] Sevenov: ~oTkPoBeHuE~, pys60@cjr
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[22:46:23] Муркт: ну и ник
[22:46:26] Муркт: я бы голос такому нику не давал
[22:47:21] ts33kr: Муркт, Пускают тут всяких, в наш уютненький чятик...
[22:47:36] Муркт: типа того, да
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[22:50:36] огыешсук: /me согласный
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[22:58:49] огыешсук: /me . o 0 (экие предусмотрительные: http://www.fips.ru/cdfi/fips.dll?ty=29&docid=39072800&ki=TM)
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[23:14:11] let is now away
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