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War criminals thrive on death and sadness
Hate breeds hate breeds sing whoa
Blood fire war hate will never end
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[00:55:18] Большой Лис: http://www.bbc.co.uk/russian/science/2009/12/091201_windows_screen.shtml
[00:55:20] Большой Лис: FAIL
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[05:26:51] Renji: А почему если текст возвращается процедурой и сказу print, то отображаются кракозябры?
[05:27:28] Renji: И текст вида (' коды символов')
[05:27:40] Renji: Откуда скобочки берутся?
[05:30:53] Renji: http://dumpz.org/14820/
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[09:09:56] RaD: камрады, поделитесь методикой грамотного убийства объекта, так чтобы мой деструктор гарантированно вызвался
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[09:11:40] SV0L0CH: не использовать try
[09:11:50] SV0L0CH: в плюсах помогало
[09:12:42] wiz_: self.shoot(self.foot)
[09:12:46] wiz_: а потом уже del self
[09:13:25] wiz_: деструктор не будет гарантировано вызываться, об этом в доксах большими чорными буквами сказано
[09:13:25] SV0L0CH: а если возникнет исключение?
[09:13:42] SV0L0CH: или вопрос был не об этом?
[09:14:09] wiz_: SV0L0CH, дело в том, что в питоне деструктор вызывается абы как а не сразу после "исчезновения" объекта
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[09:16:42] SV0L0CH: хорошо что у меня ФП головного мозга и я не заморачиваюсь всякими деструкторами
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[09:17:57] wiz_: у рада видимо ООП головного мозга и его это очень беспокоит (=
[09:18:56] RaD: у меня чтение с рфид сканнера висит в потоке, и если юзер отказывается от чтения, то надо мочить потом с грамотным закрытием порта
[09:19:08] SV0L0CH: надо срочно лечить и заразить чем положено (=
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[09:21:32] wiz_: ну вот отказался и закрывай сам сразу же
[09:21:46] wiz_: хочешь чтобы было хорошо - сделай это сам
[09:22:25] RaD: .!.
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[09:26:04] RaD: QApplication -> QDialog -> QThread, внутри треда pyserial.port.read(1) и это надо аккуратно прибить по cancel в QDialog
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[09:27:56] SV0L0CH: повесь прибивание как слот
[09:28:53] RaD: если я спрашиваю тут и не пишу слово "туплю", то поверь, все официальные способы и gdb я уже попробовал
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[09:41:59] xa4a_: RaD: поставить таймаут на порт?
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[09:42:56] xa4a_: и читать из него данные кусочками, между которыми проверять, не перехотел ли пользователь
[09:44:22] xa4a_: у нас же не эрланг. нам приходится эмулировать секс. вместо recieve PortData -> process_data(); CancelEvent -> ClosePort(), Cancel().
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[09:48:22] xa4a_: ага)
[09:48:29] xa4a_: ну я посмотрел доку
[09:48:36] xa4a_: на наличие слова timeout
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War criminals thrive on death and sadness
Hate breeds hate breeds sing whoa
Blood fire war hate will never end
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Blood fire war hate will never end
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[10:55:02] RaD: кстати, мне нужен простой чековый принтер (критерии: простота, usb/com/lpt, недорого, автоотрез является преимуществом), использоваться будет с линуксом (это критично только для usb), желательно чтобы им можно было управлять через esc-последовательности
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[10:55:28] RaD: вдруг у кого есть опыт с таким железом и могут посоветовать у кого его можно взять в дефолт-сити
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[11:21:48] Большой Лис: http://www.highcharts.com/
[11:22:19] piranha: смотрел я на них вчера и решил, что протовиз лучше
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[11:23:42] Большой Лис: piranha, кто-кто? сцылку в студию! :)
[11:23:51] piranha: !g protovis
[11:23:57] piranha: yep, this one
[11:24:37] piranha: Большой Лис: он правда немного напряжен для понимания был сначала, но он крут. Это не предефайненые штуки, как в хайчартах, а просто декларативный синтаксис для построения своих штук
[11:25:07] Большой Лис: а предефайненые это тоже кул
[11:25:12] piranha: бывает да
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[11:25:24] Большой Лис: выглядит офигенски, и делать почти ничо не надо
[11:25:25] Большой Лис: %)
[11:25:26] piranha: но протовиз я уже шарю, а фичами он явно круче
[11:25:28] piranha: )
[11:25:57] piranha: ну… протовиз выглядит ок, если ты знаешь, чего хочешь
[11:26:05] piranha: бтв, еще есть graphaël
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[11:26:11] piranha: gRaphaël
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[11:26:18] piranha: но он еще без док
[11:26:39] piranha: но я склоняюсь, что если не протовиз, то графаэль ;)
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[11:37:50] GrimbleGromble: как в джанге можно загрузить несколько файлов более кошерно? у меня вот такой говнокод вышел http://dumpz.org/14822/, может есть способы получше?
[11:38:37] piranha: думаю, что более кошерно - никак
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[11:38:57] piranha: разве что юзать Picture.objects.create(picture=f)
[11:39:01] piranha: чтоб в одну строку
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[12:08:35] tilarids: вопрос по меркуриалу:
а) Можно ли удалить определенные чейнджсеты из репозитория? Т.е., у меня есть ревизия 100 и есть 200, я хочу удалить все, что между 100 и 200, так чтобы 200 стала после 100. Возможно ли такое и как?
б) Как я понимаю, удаленно это сделать нельзя и даже если получится локально, то при пуше доведётся хитро мержить?
[12:08:43] tilarids: piranha: ^
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[12:09:40] piranha: tilarids: все ревизии тогда, начиная с 200, будут отличаться
[12:09:54] piranha: а сделать можно с помощью расширения collapse или histedit
[12:10:04] piranha: первое только это и умеет делать, а второе - это как rebase -i из гита
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[12:10:37] piranha: tilarids: про хитро мержить не понял. Эти ревизии уже запушены?
[12:10:53] tilarids: piranha: да
[12:11:01] piranha: тогда какой смысл их убивать?
[12:11:06] tilarids: доступа к репозиторию у меня нет
[12:11:12] tilarids: piranha: они не должны там лежать
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[12:11:28] tilarids: с этими чейнджсетами нихрена работать не будет
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[12:11:37] piranha: ну тогда убивай, но тебе придëтся переклонировать на сервер всë
[12:11:45] piranha: так зачем убивать? сделай им реверт
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[12:12:17] tilarids: piranha: они посередине. Т.е., верхняя ревизия - 300
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[12:12:37] piranha: да и хер ей в морду
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[12:13:01] piranha: hg up -r 200
hg revert -a —no-b -r 100
hg ci -m "revert shit"
hg merge
[12:13:42] tilarids: piranha: так а разве он по мержу не притянет все ревизии взад?
[12:14:16] piranha: он же будет знать, что они есть и в твоей новой ревизии тоже
[12:14:28] piranha: так что нет, не притянет
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[12:19:57] tilarids: надо попробовать
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[12:20:21] tilarids: ё-моё, какие пляски
[12:20:47] tilarids: огромный минус DVCS - его нельзя давать неподготовленным людям в руки
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[12:21:21] tilarids: они вытворяют чудеса, а потом приходится всё фиксить
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[12:21:53] Большой Лис: а при чём тут DVCS к тупости людей?!
[12:22:18] Большой Лис: сами доку не прочитали, сами не поняли с чем имеют дело, а потом DVCS виноваты?
[12:22:24] tilarids: Большой Лис: с DVCS всё намного проще запутать
[12:22:41] RaD: что-то мне это напоминает?
[12:22:46] tilarids: вот если бы люди юзали свн без бранчей, то они бы не смогли сделать то, что они сделали
[12:22:52] Большой Лис: почему то водить автомобиль разрешается только после прохождения курса подготовки
[12:23:02] RaD: а не, не то
[12:23:23] Большой Лис: а вот срать в DVCS можно и без подготовки и всёравно DVCS виновато
[12:23:25] Большой Лис: быгыгы
[12:24:00] tilarids: Большой Лис: ты просто не знаком с принципом "хороший интерфейс исключает неправильное его использование"
[12:24:14] tilarids: интерфейс - в программном смысле, а не в уишном
[12:24:17] Большой Лис: ты просто не знаком с принципом RTFM!
[12:24:26] tilarids: Большой Лис: а я здесь про себя вообще говорю?
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[12:25:10] Большой Лис: раз ты их (тех кто не читая маниула лезет корявыми ручками) то и тебя это касается тоже
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[12:25:25] Большой Лис: их защищаешь*
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[12:26:27] Большой Лис: кто не учился водить машину и разъебался на первом же повороте, сам дурак
[12:26:49] Большой Лис: фигурально выражаясь
[12:26:51] Большой Лис: ;)
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[12:27:02] tilarids: Большой Лис: я считаю, что софт должен писаться с учётом озвученного мной принципа, а не исходя из мыслей, что кому надо - прочитает доку или в сорцах найдёт
[12:27:42] SV0L0CH: насчёт доки
[12:27:47] tilarids: Большой Лис: машину трудно сделать неразбиваемой, а софт можно
[12:27:49] tilarids: и нужно
[12:27:50] SV0L0CH: есть же dir()
[12:28:31] tilarids: SV0L0CH: а это то тут причём? Мы в общем говорим, а не о питоне
[12:28:55] Большой Лис: мы говорим о программе для домохозяек? или всё же о контроле версий, программе достаточно специфичной, которой пользуются люди-ITшнеги. которые, в силу своих обязаностей, ДОЛЖНЫ читать оки
[12:28:58] Большой Лис: доки*
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[12:29:33] SV0L0CH: я о том что интерфейс должен сам по себе содержать документацию
[12:29:37] piranha: я шото не понял
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[12:29:50] piranha: каким образом свн может предотвратить коммит двухстов ревизий с говном?
[12:29:51] mishok13: hg, git: we don't assume our users are idiots
bzr: our users are idiots, but we honestly don't care
svn, cvs: fuck you
[12:29:53] piranha: при чëм тут двцс?
[12:30:05] tilarids: piranha: еще - я, возможно, прошу чего-то магического и невозможного, но возможно ли смержить две отдельные директории из соответственно репозитория A и B, не трогая остальные директории и по возможности с сохранением истории?
[12:30:13] mishok13: это вот у меня такое ощущение от использования этих систем
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[12:30:24] Большой Лис: mishok13, +1
[12:30:26] mishok13: а, ну еще перфорс, отрыжка эволюции VCS
[12:30:41] piranha: tilarids: не, они ж трекают не директории, а чейнджсеты...
[12:30:59] piranha: ты можешь с помощью convert'а эти директории из истории вырвать, и смержить, но это ж не то
[12:31:01] SV0L0CH: /me видел кадров которые в svn выкладывали откомпиленые бинарники
[12:31:02] piranha: или то?
[12:31:08] piranha: я не понимаю, чего ты хочешь
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[12:31:23] tilarids: piranha: там прикол в другом. Там чувак, которого уже нет с нами, отбранчевался поздно, а все думали, что он отбранчевался нормально. В итоге, в репозиторий попало много мусора и только вчера это обнаружилось
[12:31:45] piranha: ну с свн может быть то же самое
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[12:31:49] piranha: ой, шо тока не может быть с свн!
[12:32:07] Большой Лис: %)
[12:32:32] Большой Лис: /me с ужасом вспоминает svn merge
[12:32:37] tilarids: piranha: я с трудом это представляю, потому что это действительно какая-то муть. Возможно, было бы удобно, если бы все изменения директории с соответствующими логами он вытянул из одного репозитория и прицепил бы ко второму.
[12:32:53] Большой Лис: хорошо что всё закончилось хорошо (и svn проследовал на свалку)
[12:33:11] tilarids: piranha: я ж написал - в свн *без бранчей* такое бы сделать не получилось
[12:33:21] piranha: ну так в хг без бранчей тоже )
[12:33:25] piranha: хехе
[12:33:39] piranha: tilarids: смотри. Если ты сча посидишь и придумаешь, чего хочешь, то сделать скорей всего можно.
[12:33:45] piranha: вопрос в том, чтоб сформулировать это нормально
[12:33:51] tilarids: piranha: сфигали? Я только начал привыкать к тому, что в hg является бранчами :)
[12:33:57] piranha: =)))
[12:34:06] piranha: не, ну ссзб, разве нет?
[12:34:10] piranha: ладно, не о том речь
[12:34:16] piranha: свн однозначно легче поиметь
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[12:36:48] tilarids: piranha: есть репозиторий A, в нем есть директории, среди них - директория Dir. Когда-то давно (год назад) от репозитория A отбранчили репозиторий B. И в репозитории A, и в репозитории B происходили изменения в Dir. Нужно, чтобы в A появились в Dir те изменения, которые есть в B, но остальные директории бы не затрагивались.
[12:36:55] tilarids: вроде подробно объяснил
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[12:37:42] piranha: tilarids: делаешь мерж, а потом делаешь revert до репозитория A всем директориям, кроме Dir
[12:38:51] Typhon: piranha: Slava Pestov нигде не писал, почему он для фактора выбрал си++, а не си?
[12:39:04] piranha: Typhon: не-а, ни разу не читал...
[12:39:18] piranha: в смысле не видел ни разу упоминаний
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[12:39:33] Typhon: надо спросить
[12:39:39] mishok13: ну, пока фактор не использует буст, не вижу никаких проблем с использованием плюсов
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[12:40:21] tilarids: mishok13: ты не любишь буст?
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[12:40:28] mishok13: онет, чтоты
[12:40:33] mishok13: я его обожаю, лол
[12:40:42] tilarids: piranha: спс
[12:41:00] piranha: tilarids: нп
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[12:42:09] tilarids: piranha: заведи блог Tips& Tricks для Mercurial. Чтобы в гугле таки можно было находить такое
[12:42:24] piranha: tilarids: так есть же hgtip.com
[12:43:57] tilarids: piranha: мало там, да и не совсем того плана там советы
[12:44:11] piranha: хех :)
[12:44:28] tilarids: я серьёзно. Четыре первых блогпоста уже есть
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[12:44:33] piranha: четыре?!
[12:44:36] tilarids: piranha: да
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[12:44:45] piranha: tilarids: ухм, какие?
[12:45:02] piranha: /me записывает
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[12:45:56] tilarids: 1 - hello world, about
2 - strip для удаленного репозитория без доступа к самому этому репозиторию
3 - Удаление ревизий из середины
4 - Мерж определенных директорий
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[12:46:20] piranha: 2 - так это ж никак не сделаешь?...
[12:46:27] tilarids: ы
[12:46:33] tilarids: ты сам рассказывал, как :)
[12:46:36] piranha: если хотя б ссх нету
[12:46:37] tilarids: ну, типа strip
[12:46:40] piranha: ээ...
[12:46:46] piranha: а, то что я выше говорил?
[12:46:50] piranha: ну ок )
[12:46:57] tilarids: на самом деле получаются реверты и мержи
[12:47:01] piranha: угу
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[12:48:18] Typhon: piranha: не слушай его, не пиши в блог, открывай курсы и тренинги!
[12:48:41] piranha: о да
[12:48:46] piranha: это тупо тонны бабла
[12:48:52] piranha: но тока никто не верит, что я крутой чувак
[12:49:00] piranha: они смотрят на мою фотку и думают - этот?!
[12:49:04] piranha: хехе
[12:49:16] mishok13: постригись
[12:49:17] AlexKiriukha: Пластическая хирургия делает чудеса.
[12:49:21] mishok13: эм
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[12:49:31] огыешсук: /me . o 0 (Всё дело в грамотном пи?аре и, быть может, лёгком фотошопе...)
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[12:49:40] mishok13: покраситься в брюнета надо еще
[12:49:41] AlexKiriukha: ... делает чудные (.)(.)
[12:49:43] mishok13: отрастить бороду
[12:49:56] AlexKiriukha: точно. Бороду
[12:49:59] огыешсук: /me . o 0 (а также свитер и пузо)
[12:50:02] mishok13: или заработать лысину
[12:50:12] mishok13: свитер, пузо -- это путь РМС
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[12:50:22] mishok13: купи костюм от Армани
[12:50:33] mishok13: и путь к богатству открыт
[12:50:38] mishok13: ...or not
[12:50:45] AlexKiriukha: Спортивный костюм Армани... Хм...
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[12:51:22] огыешсук: /me забредал в отдел армани в одном торговом комплексе, что-то не очень впечатлили меня тамошние цены, ну десяток-другой тысяч за рубашку, ну и?
[12:52:05] SV0L0CH: ватник и уанка рулят :)
[12:52:11] tilarids: piranha: начни с блога
[12:52:12] mishok13: 30-50 евро за рубашку это охуенно дорого, судя по голландским и немецким ценам
[12:52:29] piranha: tilarids: в плане? :)
[12:52:33] piranha: а, в плане про хг?
[12:52:48] tilarids: потом, как будет 100kk подписчиков, тогда будет чем хвастаться
[12:52:54] piranha: :)))))
[12:52:59] piranha: 100kk - это шо?
[12:53:03] piranha: сто миллионов?
[12:53:08] tilarids: синоним 100500
[12:53:09] piranha: ты в своëм уме? %)
[12:53:18] Typhon: килокаллорий
[12:53:23] piranha: если у меня будет сто миллионов подпищикоф, то приходиться хвастаться будут ко мне
[12:53:36] tilarids: piranha: ну, хорошо, заменю 100кк на "дохрена"
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[12:53:45] piranha: )
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[12:54:46] tilarids: чтобы под фотографией можно было писать:
One of the Mercurial core developers, author of the top ranked "Mercurila Tips& Tricks" blog
[12:54:54] piranha: =)))
[12:55:04] piranha: меркуриалу не нужен еще один кор-дев, я думаю
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[12:55:17] tilarids: piranha: а вот об этом никто не должен знать
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[12:55:26] piranha: :)))
[12:55:33] piranha: хаха
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[12:55:59] Typhon: "Mercurial core developer and inventor " тогда
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[12:56:41] tilarids: мне надо идти в финансовые консультанты. Я буду зарабатывать много бабла на том, что судя по моим консультациям их будет ждать неминуемый успех и вселенское блаженство
[12:57:17] tilarids: их==консультируемых
[12:57:23] AlexKiriukha: Дык уже ж куча таких консультантов. 2000+ лет на рынке
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[12:58:50] SV0L0CH: тогда надо консультировать так чтобы консультированые осознавали что им пиздец
[12:59:03] piranha: так таких тоже дохера
[12:59:06] piranha: каждая вторая жена
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[12:59:40] tilarids: AlexKiriukha: я буду самым лучшим. Среди проконсультированных мной есть создатель самой распространённой корпоративной системы контроля версий и документооборота, а также четыре человека из списка форбс топ-100
[13:00:19] piranha: Би, Лл, Ге, Йтс?
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[13:01:00] tilarids: piranha: 64й, 78й, 81й и 95й
[13:01:04] tilarids: фамилии потом выпишу
[13:01:06] AlexKiriukha: tilarids: ну у них большой опыт, огромная история, куча королей, царей, прочего населения, разветвлённая система филиалов, учебные материалы
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[13:01:39] tilarids: /me сбежал, хватит спамить, пора работать
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[13:06:50] piranha: http://sivers.org/kimo
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мой микроблог http://juick.com/o-ILnur/
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[13:15:13] feedbot: Пробегающие байты — Mercurial 1.4.1 http://is.gd/59Tz1 (piranha.org.ua)
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[13:21:16] Хрюндель: Кто нибудь под фейсбук писал приложения?
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[13:22:58] piranha is now War pigs deliver all their madness
War criminals thrive on death and sadness
Hate breeds hate breeds sing whoa
Blood fire war hate will never end
[13:23:53] Муркт: воу-воу
[13:23:53] non3x st: Хрюндель, писал но не на Python :)
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[13:24:40] Хрюндель: non3x st, да мне в принципе в теории просто помочь надо, вот глянь я тут вопрос написал http://softwaremaniacs.org/forum/django/16386/
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[13:30:53] pzskc383: Хрюндель: посмотри на gigya, оно конечно говнецо, но если быстро надо, то пойдет
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[13:36:09] nmk: а никто не думал на монго писать какой-нибудь биллинг? шарды есть, map/reduce на шардах есть. вроде все для биллинга есть. :)
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[13:36:39] nmk: транзакций только нету
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мой микроблог http://juick.com/ilnursoft@jabber.ru/
[13:45:05] ilnur.soft is now люблю свою девочку!!!
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[13:47:44] mishok13: nmk, биллинг без транзакций это, как-то, неуютно :/
[13:48:09] огыешсук: Угу, тут же сочинается хистрая схема...
[13:48:15] nmk: ну.. можно попробовать самому локи делать. и ждать их..
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[13:48:57] mishok13: ну это же полное г будет
[13:49:24] nmk: смотря для каких задач. для моих вполне хватит..
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[13:49:34] mishok13: :)
[13:49:57] mishok13: я думаю, биллинг это как раз одна из тех задач, где целостность данных имеет основное значение
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[13:50:17] mishok13: хотя, несомненно, есть и исключения
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[13:50:23] AlexKiriukha: звучит как что-то предвыборное
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[13:51:25] nmk: ну у меня простой вариант. один чувак заводит бабло в систему, покупает что-то там, процент уходит тому-то и тому-то и как бы все.
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[13:57:10] kwis: ребята, не бейте ногами, тыкните носом где можно посмотреть как во фьюшке формировать свой многоуровневый список и отдавать его в шаблон где потом разбирать таким способом {% for c in мой_список %}
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[13:58:28] RaD: так же как и в питоне
[13:58:53] AlexKiriukha: django-mptt посмотри, там вроде всё есть
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[13:59:56] AlexKiriukha: И ещё http://softwaremaniacs.org/blog/2009/09/21/trees-in-django-templates/ может натолкнуть на мысли.
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[14:54:32] xa4a_: та-ак.. почему джанго дев. сервер сам не обрабатывает мои /media/admin/ ?
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[14:54:46] xa4a_: ведь того, что я пропишу ADMIN_MEDIA_PREFIX должно быть достаточно?
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[14:57:14] ts33kr: Нет, не должно.
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[14:57:14] ts33kr: Если ты хочешь, чтобы он сервил статику -- это нужно прописать в урлах.
[14:57:14] ts33kr: xa4a_, http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/howto/static-files/
[14:57:48] Большой Лис: piranha, а чем тебе elastichosts не нравится?
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[14:58:17] xa4a_: Note that the Django development server automagically serves admin media files, but this is not the case when you use any other server arrangement.
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[14:58:23] ts33kr: xa4a_, Там еще есть --adminmedia параметр, может тебе подойдет.
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[14:58:28] piranha: Большой Лис: почему _не_ нравится?
[14:58:40] xa4a_: ts33kr: точно. спасибо!
[14:58:47] piranha: как раз нравится...
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[14:59:00] piranha: Большой Лис: по-моему ваще крутые чуваки
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[15:01:23] xa4a_: а. werkzeug их хавает
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[15:04:04] xa4a_: заборол.
[15:04:30] Большой Лис: http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/epic-fail-volleyball-fail.jpg
[15:04:31] mishok13: странные ребята
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[15:06:30] mishok13: так я вижу как люди на лету такие 5% с CPU снимают, чтобы сэкономить
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War criminals thrive on death and sadness
Hate breeds hate breeds sing whoa
Blood fire war hate will never end
[15:13:34] piranha: mishok13: elastichosys?
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[15:13:50] mishok13: ага
[15:14:03] piranha: хм, почему? :)
[15:14:06] mishok13: ну, то есть, клиенты у них будут, без вопросов
[15:14:26] mishok13: но возможность так точно регулировать мощность сервера
[15:14:32] mishok13: она как-то бесполезна
[15:14:36] mishok13: ну посмотрим-с
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[16:14:15] piranha: http://tomayko.com/writings/WhyNotMarkdown
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[16:15:13] feedbot: Moving from Python 2 to Python 3: A 4 page "cheat sheet" http://is.gd/5a376 (www.reddit.com)
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[16:17:19] Большой Лис: piranha, жжот
[16:18:20] piranha: ага
[16:18:28] piranha: думаю, дворак попробовать выучить, что ли?
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[16:19:29] Хрюндель: piranha, у меня был знакомый который выучил dvorak, потом у него началась дипрессия, потом он получил работу perl кодером и вот три года как он пропал..
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[16:19:58] piranha: у меня был знакомый, который выучил дворак… потом он поставил винду, женился, переехал в жëлтые воды и произвëл на свет ребëнка
[16:20:04] piranha: вот это реально жуткая история :Р
[16:20:07] RaD: perl кодер - это сильно
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[16:21:20] Хрюндель: piranha, думаешь в твоей истории переломным моментом стал дворак? У меня подозрение что винда ))
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[16:21:28] Kupymbrick: вот пытаюсь емакс+питон мод поробовать... ковыряю по хабрагайду...
[16:21:32] piranha: хз
[16:21:36] mishok13: ну если вычеркнуть переезд в Жёлтые воды, то всё было неплохо
[16:21:37] piranha: мне кажется, он просто катился по наклонной
[16:21:42] AlexKiriukha: Может это и тот же человек, только с разной стороны (разные интерфейсы)
[16:21:43] piranha: mishok13: зависит от
[16:21:49] Kupymbrick: но почему то в меню питон и ропе пустие, может кто подскажет ?
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[16:29:10] огыешсук: там эту фигню месяц назад видел в ченжлоге, пофигшено
[16:29:10] огыешсук: Kupymbrick: обновись
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[16:30:40] Kupymbrick: ну где же злые емаксеры ?
[16:30:54] mishok13: злых имаксеров не существует
[16:31:01] piranha: емаксеры справедливые
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[16:33:31] огыешсук: /me . o 0 (мея е видо?)
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[16:36:41] Carmaman: .)
[16:36:55] Carmaman: Кукес, дорогие.
[16:37:04] piranha: охайо
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[16:37:10] Carmaman: >>> kukes .)
[16:37:47] Carmaman: non3x st: Кстати, а ты здесь зачем тусишь? .)
[16:38:18] piranha: это самый трушный канал @cjr, как вообще могут возникать такие вопросы?
[16:38:20] non3x st: [15:30:06] mishok13: злых имаксеров не существует -> Carmaman живой пример.
[16:38:29] piranha: эээ
[16:38:33] Carmaman: non3x st: Почему же злой? ,)
[16:38:37] piranha: какой же это он злой?
[16:38:42] non3x st: piranha, говорю же злой, видишь какие вопросы задает
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[16:39:01] piranha: non3x st: он же морковку ест
[16:39:08] Carmaman: piranha: А, верно. Я просто не знал про него... я здесь посижу, посмотрю. Славоника вон вижу. .)
[16:39:12] non3x st: piranha, маскируется %)
[16:39:15] piranha: :)))
[16:39:17] Carmaman: .))
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[16:39:32] Typhon: был крутой фильм "пристрели их" -- там мужик ел морковь и всех убивал
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[16:39:42] Typhon: shoot'em all, кажется, в оригинале
[16:39:49] огыешсук: /me . o 0 (иногда этой самой морковью убивал, да)
[16:39:52] non3x st: опа. Тут-то все и выяснилось :D
[16:39:52] Carmaman: /me все-таки когда-нибудь его посмотрит...
[16:40:09] piranha: кстати да
[16:40:12] piranha: клëвый фильм
[16:40:13] Carmaman: /me погрозил non3x st морковью фатальной.
[16:40:17] piranha: я с него прусь
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[16:40:33] piranha: Carmaman: грози фаллоформировавшей
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[16:41:58] Carmaman: Вот чем питон неудачен, так тем, что это не перл совсем. И не лисп. Но в большей степени скорее наверное конечно где-то даже возможно и вообще что-то совсем абсолютно наоборот другое.
[16:42:36] piranha: питон как раз удачен тем, что он не перл
[16:42:49] wiz_: а разве есть ещё что-нибудь такое же поездатое, как питон, кроме питона?
[16:43:08] piranha: только в мечтах
[16:43:12] piranha: и блоки в руби
[16:43:18] piranha: ну и еще фактор, конечно
[16:43:19] wiz_: рубуэээ
[16:43:23] Carmaman: А знал, что будет такое ответ. Поэтому я заготовил для каждого, кто его выдаст, по моркови. ,))
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[16:43:30] piranha: хехе
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[16:43:33] piranha: не дотянешься ;)
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[16:43:46] Carmaman: :)
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[16:44:45] Carmaman: Вам наспамили в комментах на python.su
[16:44:53] Carmaman: Впрочем не удаляйте. Это на питоне боты. .)
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[16:45:37] Carmaman: Или это SEO трик такой? ,)
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[16:45:51] Typhon: nothing care
[16:46:23] piranha: nothing?
[16:46:26] огыешсук: /me . o 0 (любопытно, каким местом thing`и умеют care)
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[16:46:29] piranha: ты в плане nobody cares?
[16:46:53] Typhon: дада, нельзя думать вовремя еды
[16:46:59] Typhon: стыд и срам мне (
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[16:47:10] Carmaman: Это все из-за отступов, ну. .)
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[16:47:53] Carmaman: Отступил от правила кушать на кухне и все. Жизнь пошла насмарку. А отступил всего 4 пробела.
[16:48:19] Carmaman: А для python для haml и sass модули есть?
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[16:48:53] piranha: ghrml == haml
[16:49:08] Carmaman: Thanks.
[16:49:16] piranha: для сасс тоже есть аналог, забыл как называется
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[16:50:01] Большой Лис: haml придумали инопланетяне для порабощения человечества
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[16:50:32] piranha: Carmaman: http://sandbox.pocoo.org/clevercss/
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[16:50:42] piranha: Большой Лис: а меня прикололо
[16:50:53] Carmaman: Меня тоже.
[16:51:13] Carmaman: И вообще xml/xhtml/html и css are so sucky and ugly. ;)
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[16:51:34] piranha: цсс-то чем?
[16:51:52] piranha: то, что результат странный бывает - это ж не его проблема
[16:52:05] piranha: а так он вполне себе ничего...
[16:52:34] Carmaman: Эти { } с ; такой какой-то оверхэд... Хотя, да, css еще нет плох.
[16:52:39] Carmaman: clevercss ;))
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[16:54:55] Carmaman: Переменные вот определять нельзя. А тут в haml и sass можно. Это вот понравилось.
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[16:55:19] piranha: ну для цсс можно и сасс юзать
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[16:55:36] Kupymbrick: меня банили на время или просто зайти не мог? О_о
[16:56:17] Carmaman: emacs забанил. .)
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[16:58:06] Kupymbrick: *нервный
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[16:58:29] piranha: хм, никто не банил
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[17:01:40] Kupymbrick: ех... останусь на виме
[17:02:28] piranha: ужос
[17:02:32] piranha: ты видел, что тебе писал огыешсук?
[17:02:58] Kupymbrick: нет
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[17:03:14] Kupymbrick: что-то со связью стало
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[17:04:58] Kupymbrick: так что ?
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[17:05:37] Typhon: Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его!
[17:05:39] ilnur.soft is now люблю свою девочку!!!
мой микроблог http://juick.com/o-ILnur/
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[17:07:23] piranha: огыешсук
Kupymbrick: debian что ли?
там эту фигню месяц назад видел в ченжлоге, пофигшено
Kupymbrick: обновись
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War criminals thrive on death and sadness
Hate breeds hate breeds sing whoa
Blood fire war hate will never end
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[19:15:22] feedbot: Why I chose Common Lisp over Python, Ruby, and Clojure http://is.gd/5acYd (www.reddit.com)
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[19:41:37] Carmaman: What about Perl? ;))
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[19:42:15] Carmaman: А вообще понятно, он же 15 лет кодил на CL.
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[19:46:27] Kupymbrick: пытаюсь настроить емакс по: http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/emacs/76370/#habracut
все работает кроме автокомплита, видает ошибку:
Symbol's value as variable is void: <!DOCTYPE (это как бы первая строчка в скрипте с автокомплитом)
[19:46:40] Kupymbrick: что не так делаю ?
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[22:15:09] feedbot: I think I corrected today's thedailywtf, in python. Am I right? http://is.gd/5anph (www.reddit.com)
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[22:57:16] xa4a_: хм.. да, я знаю, что сексом занимаюсь. но [джанга] никто не делал динамической генерации "моделформ" по описанию полей из базы? тоесть есть модели user, feature, featuretype. делаю сейчас генерацию формы редактирования юзера, в которую бы автоматом добавлялись поля, соотв каждой фичи
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[23:02:20] Kupymbrick: помогите сформулировать правильно мысль: if num % i in range(1,11) == 0: ?
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[23:03:13] ts33kr: Шшто?
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[23:04:07] Typhon: all(not num % i for i in range(1, 11)) :)
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[23:04:48] Typhon: либо any, если ты имеешь ввиду, делится нацело на какое-нибудь число из интервала
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[23:05:36] Kupymbrick: ща )
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[23:07:14] Kupymbrick: если остаток от num деленного на i в интервале (от 1 до 11) равно 0 то.....
[23:07:25] Kupymbrick: во что хотел этим сказать
[23:07:41] Typhon: на случайный i, на любой i, на все i ?
[23:07:55] Kupymbrick: на и от 1 до 11
[23:08:10] xa4a_: на случайный i, на любой i, на все i ?
[23:08:11] Typhon: на все, получается?
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[23:08:28] Kupymbrick: на все и в диапазоне
[23:08:31] Typhon: xa4a_, кстати там два первых варианта эквивалентны, чего-т
[23:08:56] xa4a_: Kupymbrick: найди их НОК и проверяй его
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[23:12:56] Kupymbrick: Национальный олимпийский комитет? Нок — древняя африканская цивилизация.?
[23:13:14] xa4a_: наименьшее общее кратное
[23:13:16] Typhon: наименьшее общее кратное, е
[23:13:17] Typhon: !
[23:13:28] Typhon: 1*2*3*4*5*6*7*8*9*10.
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[23:22:16] Kupymbrick: так получается что нок у них 3628800, а в задаче это 2520
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[23:23:05] xa4a_: 1*2*3*..*10 - это не НОК
[23:23:08] xa4a_: это факториал
[23:23:42] Kupymbrick: ааа сорри
[23:23:50] Typhon: это не нок :(
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[23:24:15] xa4a_: 72
[23:24:35] xa4a_: не
[23:24:49] xa4a_: 2520
[23:25:02] xa4a_: http://wims.unice.fr/wims/wims.cgi?module=tool/popup.en&search=lcm
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[23:37:20] Kupymbrick: xa4a_: спс, сайт делал именно то что я хотел сделать )
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