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[13:40:11] Муркт: опять, сука
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[13:40:45] dicos: Господа админы, поставьте капчу наконец, опять спам рассылают.
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[13:44:48] огыешсук: О! А если выйти из конфы, то спамеры нас не достанут!
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[13:49:03] dicos: огыешсук они будут слать смс-ки!
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[14:43:10] mr.oduvan: Всем привет
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[14:43:32] mr.oduvan: Есть вопрос по Джанге...
[14:43:41] mr.oduvan: Я понимаю, что выходной, но надо..
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[14:45:33] mr.oduvan: как бы по умному сделать транс в темплейте, если тебе надо перевести текст примерно такой "Войти вы можете тут", который лежит в таком хттмле "Войти вы можете <a href="{% url auth_login %}">тут</a>"
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[14:46:39] mr.oduvan: ой. блок транс может помочь
[14:46:58] заебали спамаить ЗЫ кип кавно!!! is now заебали спамаить ЗЫ кип кавно!!!
[14:46:58] заебали спамаить ЗЫ кип кавно!!! is now offline
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[14:48:11] klichuk: ну тут он прав. (только что пожаловавший юзер)
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[14:53:45] mr.oduvan: голяк
[14:53:46] mr.oduvan: SyntaxError: Translation blocks must not include other block tags
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[14:56:14] mr.oduvan: ну так что.. никто не знает?
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[14:56:57] klichuk: ну как бы оно пишет, что в блоке trans не может быть других блочных тех (дословно)
[14:57:18] mr.oduvan: спасибо за дословный перевод
[14:57:27] mr.oduvan: но вопрос то не в переводе
[14:57:36] mr.oduvan: как бы по умному сделать транс в темплейте, если тебе надо перевести текст примерно такой "Войти вы можете тут", который лежит в таком хттмле "Войти вы можете <a href="{% url auth_login %}">тут</a>"
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[14:58:22] klichuk: а если внутри тега >{% trans "тут" %}<
[14:58:24] mr.oduvan: о
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[14:58:35] mr.oduvan: нашел, можно через as
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[14:58:52] mr.oduvan: если пости дословно, то через Ж!
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[14:59:16] mr.oduvan: {% url path.to.view arg, arg2 as the_url %}
[14:59:40] mr.oduvan: ВСем спасибо
[14:59:55] mr.oduvan: :) но как по мне - это лажа :)
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[15:15:10] feedbot: Блог Романа Ворушина — Python XML serializer http://is.gd/5dYfC (vorushin.ru)
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[15:36:06] Хрюндель: какой самый просто способ превратить 1.3600000000000001 в 1.36 ?
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[15:37:11] mr.oduvan: a = 1.36
[15:37:52] Хрюндель: Муркт, смекни
[15:38:17] mr.oduvan: а можно еще так int(a*100)/100.0
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[15:43:12] mr.oduvan: '%.2f'%a
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[15:44:43] Хрюндель: mr.oduvan, tnx
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[15:45:30] Optik is now Да, я здесь.
[15:45:58] mr.oduvan: np
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[18:20:51] mr.oduvan: для перевода данных в базе
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[18:21:47] mr.oduvan: т.е. интернационализация данных модели
[18:21:53] mr.oduvan: кто чем пользуется?
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[18:22:57] xa4a_: есть django-multilingual
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[18:24:42] mr.oduvan: нормальное?
[18:25:50] xa4a_: пользовал пару лет назад
[18:26:15] xa4a_: там была фича в том, что при изменении перевода - объект этого перевода пересоздавался
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[18:26:28] xa4a_: тоесть пока у тебя модели простые, ты этого и не заметишь
[18:26:39] xa4a_: пока к ним кто-то отношением не привяжится
[18:26:52] xa4a_: когда привяжется - будет умрать при редактировании
[18:27:01] xa4a_: если не раскоментить одну строку)
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[18:27:19] mr.oduvan: думаеш за два года никто не раскоментил?
[18:27:25] mr.oduvan: http://code.google.com/p/django-transmeta/
[18:27:30] mr.oduvan: а этот не глядел?
[18:28:15] mr.oduvan: он создает доп поля переводов
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[18:28:52] xa4a_: как никто.. я писал в список рассілки, автор отвечал, что там сакральній смысл какой-то
[18:28:59] xa4a_: не смотрел
[18:29:24] xa4a_: но если мультилингваль раскомментить строку, и переводы только через админку делать, то,автор говорил, должно работать
[18:29:28] xa4a_: у меня работает
[18:29:31] xa4a_: undefined.org.ua
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[18:34:24] mr.oduvan: ну.. у меня тож переводу только через админку будут делать
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[18:46:03] mr.oduvan: всетаки трансмета
[18:46:16] mr.oduvan: он проще..
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[18:46:43] mr.oduvan: но я пока не представляю, как сделать Флат пажес с ним
[18:46:48] mr.oduvan: :(
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[19:31:10] kwis: ребята, я понимаю что я вас уже задолбал, но я совершенно не могу вьехать в этот apache +mod_wsgi. Почему у меня джанго админка ругается на невозможность импортировать HttpResponseRedirect от чего это зависит, на дев-сервере же все отлично работало...
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[19:33:14] kwis: byteflow тоже запустить не могу, апач в логи пишет что не может прочитать settings_local.py хотя он там лежит себе спокойно...
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[19:33:34] maxp: kwis: пермишены погляди
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[19:34:10] maxp: апач запущен от своего юзера, например, а файлы с кодом твои.
[19:34:39] kwis: права все правильные
[19:34:59] maxp: kwis: насколько правильные?
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[19:40:54] kwis: проекты лежат от обычного юзера и права позволяют всем делать все с ними
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[19:42:26] maxp: ничего конкретного про mod_wsgi сказать не могу,
[19:43:22] maxp: но в общем случае можно сделать следующее
[19:43:23] maxp: 1.
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[19:43:52] maxp: сделать алас апачу и убедиться, что он может отдавать settings.py как текст
[19:45:29] maxp: 2. проверить PYTHON_PATH и убедиться, что под апачем он есть и в него попадает django и все, что надо
[19:46:12] maxp: на этом мои телепатические способности заканчиваются :)
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[19:46:39] Renji: ))
[19:47:11] maxp: как вариант можно попробовать стартовать апач от юзера,
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[19:47:28] maxp: только порт поменять придется на, скажем, 8888
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[19:59:54] kwis: http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/3661/slogger20.png ну вот же все нормально, джанга работает, но не может експортировать модуль, почему?
[20:00:07] kwis: импортировать*
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[20:12:14] wiz: kwis, урлы свои смотри
[20:12:24] wiz: *свои*
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[20:24:17] kwis: все... нерви сдали, буду мучать сутра
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[20:25:07] kwis: просидеть два дня и не запустить это тупо...
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[20:55:57] Мозгошредер: Есть быстрые уа-их прокси кроме уапрокси?
[20:56:13] Мозгошредер: в смысле чтобы прокси было в уа-их
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[21:12:59] sevenov_: >http://softwaremaniacs.org/blog/2009/12/06/parallelism-2/
>Добавьте сюда ещё приписывание к имени функции числа аргументов при декларации их экспорта.
Лол. Сагалаем не осилил паттерн матчинг?
[21:13:01] sevenov_: *Сагалаев
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[21:15:37] ts33kr: sevenov_, При чем тут паттерн матчинг?
[21:15:50] ts33kr: Говорится об эксплиситной декларации кол-ва аргументов при экспорте
[21:16:26] sevenov_: ts33kr,
fun() -> ...
fun(A) -> ...
fun(foo, A) -> ...
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[21:16:53] sevenov_: но некоторые могут быть локальными, которые не нужно экспортировать
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[21:17:16] sevenov_: ts33kr,
fun(A) -> fun(foo, A)
fun(foo, A) -> ...
[21:17:37] sevenov_: соответственно, нужно экспортнуть /0 и /1.
[21:17:44] sevenov_: вполне логично.
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[21:18:34] ts33kr: Дальше некуда.
[21:18:44] ts33kr: arity функции можно вычислять и динамически.
[21:18:53] ts33kr: А не заставлять указывать руками при экспорте.
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[21:30:49] Александр (eee): а есть какая-нибудь либа для питона, которая позволит написать скриптик с досовским интерфейсом?
[21:31:08] ts33kr: С каким-каким интерфейсом?
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[21:31:53] Александр (eee): ts33kr, псевдографический интерфейс для dos
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[21:31:58] ts33kr: sevenov_, Я к тому, что pattern matching чаще на типы/значения аргументов, чем на их кол-во. Так что большого толку из этого я не вижу.
[21:32:08] ts33kr: Александр (eee), Эээ, ну curses?
[21:32:09] Александр (eee): который в различных древних игрушках использовался
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[21:34:40] Александр (eee): а может есть ещё какие-нибудь декомпиляторы в python из досовских програмулинок? :-)
[21:35:21] ts33kr: Ты сам-то осознаешь какой бред спрашиваешь?
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[21:37:03] Александр (eee): просто препод тут дал программу досовскую 96 г., предполагается что мы вобъём данные и она выдаст результат верно или нет. Вот хотелось бы что бы она для меня выдала верно при любом раскладе
[21:37:45] ts33kr: И при чем тут python?
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[21:37:56] ts33kr: Бери дизассемблер в руки и вперед...
[21:37:58] pr0ks: обиделся
[21:38:02] ts33kr: Если уж так хочется покопать в нутростях.
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[21:39:56] sevenov_: ts33kr,
>чаще на типы/значения
тут тоже ;) Одну из причин экспортирования я уже сказал. Тут же не импортируются модули, а все экспортированное ложится в глобальный неймспейс.
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[21:40:37] sevenov_: Александр, бред какой-то.
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[21:40:51] ts33kr: sevenov_, Я к тому, что решение -- костыль.
[21:41:03] ts33kr: Лучше бы в таком случае экспортировать по сигнатуре сразу.
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[21:41:51] Александр: pr0ks: нет
[21:42:14] pr0ks: Александр: ;-)
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[21:42:45] Александр: sevenov: почему?
[21:42:59] ts33kr: По всему.
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[21:43:46] sevenov: ts33kr, не костыль, а просто кому-то кажется менее логичным :)
[21:43:57] Александр: есть же всякие декомпиляторы для Borland c++ и Delphi
[21:43:57] ts33kr: -> костыль...
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[21:45:01] sevenov: ts33kr, мне просто лень описывать работу компилятора и вм, поэтому просто можешь остаться при своем мнении ;)
[21:45:14] sevenov: Александр, на php@ спроси.
[21:45:18] sevenov: есть дезеднер :D
[21:45:56] sevenov: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/788671/lepra/backinmydays.jpg хм
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[21:46:13] ts33kr: sevenov, Работа компилятора и виртуальной машины -- тут особо не причем. Реализовать экспорт по сигнатуре не сложнее, чем в таком виде, в котором он есть сейчас. Так что не нужно сказок венского леса =)
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[21:48:30] sevenov: ts33kr, количество и тип аргументов - есть сигнатура функций в эрланге. Так что все нормально ;)
[21:49:00] ts33kr: sevenov, И при том при экспорте на тип аргументов весело чихают =)
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[21:49:22] sevenov: ts33kr, зато он используется при паттерн матчинге ;)
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[21:49:39] ts33kr: Полурешение какое-то.
[21:50:12] ts33kr: Либо экспортировать полностью по сигнатуре, либо вообще все дерево. А не только часть функций основываясь на частичной сигнатуре (кол-ве аргументов).
[21:50:33] sevenov: Ну не совсем. Опять же, пример.
-export([fun/1]).

fun({atom_foo, Var}) -> ...
fun({atom_bar, Var}) -> ...
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[21:56:16] ts33kr: sevenov, Зачем в таком случае спецификатор числа аргументов? Если тут всего функция с одним аргументом...
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[21:57:08] sevenov: эээ. Ну тогда так )
-export([fun/1, fun/2]).

fun({atom_foo, Var}) -> ...
fun({atom_bar, Var}) -> ...
fun({atom_bar, Var}, []) -> ...
[21:57:16] sevenov: ts33kr,
[21:57:59] ts33kr: sevenov, Угу. Самое смешное, что экспортируешь ты и ту и другую...
[21:58:22] sevenov: ts33kr, ну и первую, и вторую, да.
[21:58:24] ts33kr: Т.е. [fun/1, fun/2] вполне можно заменить на [fun] в даном случае...
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[21:59:11] ts33kr: /me взял воображаемый костыль и демонстративно попрыгал по комнате...
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[22:02:06] sevenov: ts33kr, брррр ))
[22:02:15] sevenov: лень уже примеров лепить )
[22:02:23] sevenov: похуй
[22:02:34] ts33kr: /me весело помахал воображаемым костылем.
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[22:17:43] sevenov: Ишь, веселый какой :)
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