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[06:21:58] sevenov: >[07:13:55 AM] feedbot: Vurtseed — untitled http://is.gd/5fzuU (xenru.livejournal.com)
Не гугл захватит мир, а Капитан.
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[07:28:25] xa4a_: sevenov: lig упоротый тролль
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[07:28:41] sevenov: xa4a_, не упоротый, но тролль :)
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[07:49:27] dicos: Доброе утро. Вопрос по самому питону: генераторы (yield) это способ сделать итераторы или что-то я по документации не понял?
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[07:52:21] sevenov: dicos, генератор - это лишь один из способов реализации итераторов.
[07:52:32] sevenov: но вообще да, можно и так сказать.
[07:52:38] sevenov: !google итераторы
[07:53:29] sevenov: dicos, http://www.google.ru/search?hl=ru&q=итератор вот
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[07:55:08] dicos: sevenov, silent_bob меня просто смутило количество способов сделать одно и то же.
[07:55:41] sevenov: dicos, эээ, ну всегда есть множество способов. Итератор - это вообще так-то паттерн.
[07:55:42] sevenov: хм
[07:55:47] sevenov: Курсор
[07:56:36] dicos: /me идет пополнять свои знания на википедии
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[10:46:09] wiz_: кто-нибудь ковырял лонг-поллинг в джанге? как его правильно делать чтобы сервер не блокировался нахер?
[10:48:26] Большой Лис: wiz_, юзать http://pushmodule.slact.net/ вот это
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[10:48:52] sevenov: wiz_, ээээ.
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[10:49:28] sevenov: /me уже иногда раздражается от слова "джанга". Особенно, когда применяется там, где не нужно.
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[10:52:09] wiz_: дада. именно в джанге. выносить в твистеды всякие не хочу q:
[10:52:30] sevenov: wiz_, заюзай gevent.
[10:52:38] sevenov: асинкор
[10:52:58] sevenov: Во чо нагуглил http://bitbucket.org/denis/gevent/src/tip/examples/webchat/run.py
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[10:53:23] Большой Лис: нахир это всё если есть уже готовый nginx-овый модуль?!
[10:53:51] sevenov: Большой Лис, а если сессии нужны, например? Анонимус/неанонимус.
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[10:54:49] wiz_: gevent для деплоя wsgi или куда?
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[10:55:16] sevenov: wiz_, да хз, этот gevent от этого же denis'a %)
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[10:55:40] sevenov: потыкай, посмотри. Мне в такой какашке не хочется разбираться :/
[10:56:26] wiz_: вот я уже неделю эти какашки тыкаю
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[10:57:00] wiz_: если бы sleep внутри view не блочил сервер, всё было бы прекрасно например
[10:57:25] sevenov: wiz_, ссзб. Нахуя вообще джанга там?
[10:58:28] wiz_: а что ещё?
[10:58:37] wiz_: остальное всё глаза выедает
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[10:59:40] sevenov: за неделю можно было, как минимум, 14 раз годный сервер для чятика.
[10:59:53] sevenov: *14 раз написать
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[11:00:57] wiz_: сервер для чятика мне не упёрся, мне в готовое барахло вгрызаться надо
[11:01:08] wiz_: прям хоть на GWT переходи *плак
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[11:01:51] sevenov: wiz_, на, смотри и изучай. http://github.com/ckreutzer/eventlet-django-webchat/blob/master/webchat/views.py
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[11:03:36] wiz_: бял, ещё один вебчат (=
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[11:04:17] sevenov: wiz_, ну бля, как пример.
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[11:05:08] Большой Лис: wiz_, а тебе шо надо?
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[11:07:49] wiz_: что-то типа ui событий
[11:08:00] wiz_: ну там кнопка нажата, ответ пришёл и всё такое
[11:08:34] wiz_: +серверные события
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[11:09:19] Большой Лис: а чем тебе nginx push module не мил?
[11:09:44] wiz_: пока самое найс выходит
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[11:11:38] wiz_: тому шо все эти чятики это такая заунывная хуета, даже для примеров...
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[11:58:40] wiz_: nginx как-нибудь можно запустить в nodetach?
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[12:06:19] Большой Лис: никак скорее всего
[12:06:27] Большой Лис: зато можно выставить log_level debug
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[14:06:00] sevenov: Как бы сгенерировать 15к одновременных коннектов? :/
[14:06:10] sevenov: Не хочу треды
[14:06:55] mishok13: twisted, йо!
[14:07:24] огыешсук: ab -n 15000
[14:07:31] огыешсук: не, ab -c 15000
[14:07:43] sevenov: огыешсук, а кто сказал что http-сервер?
[14:08:22] sevenov: mishok13, Лол. Писать с твистедом тестер того, что написано без них о_О
[14:08:23] огыешсук: ты это умолчал, а по умолчанию http сервер рулит
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[14:09:25] mishok13: попробуй перечитать свою собственную фразу
[14:09:42] wiz_: что-то я не догоняю как этим nginx-push пользоваться
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[14:10:52] wiz_: постю в канал данные, а уже подключеный клиент висит и тупит
[14:11:00] sevenov: mishok13, s/без них/без него/
[14:11:07] wiz_: при следующем подключении только вылавливает их
[14:12:05] mishok13: sevenov, ну и в чем проблема?
[14:12:14] mishok13: тестить надо с помощью проверенных вариантов
[14:12:35] sevenov: да-да, уговорил.
[14:12:37] wiz_: mishok13, в том, что его ОС нагибает из-за открытых сокетов наверно
[14:12:59] mishok13: ну это вряд-ли
[14:13:14] mishok13: меня локально система из-за 40 тысяч сокетов не нагибала :)
[14:13:33] sevenov: wiz_, sysctl чуток подправить.
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[14:15:10] feedbot: В чем я?! — CppCMS — C++ Web Framework http://is.gd/5fSgG (vermus.blogspot.com)
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[14:16:29] огыешсук: /me . o 0 (ещё бы кто выпустил x86-ASM web framework)
[14:16:49] mishok13: а я думал, они все поздыхали
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[14:17:30] sevenov: >CppCMS vs PHP benchmarks
Ыыыы
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[14:19:30] wiz_: CppCMS is Free C++ Web Development Framework (not CMS)
[14:19:35] wiz_: facepalm
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[14:20:09] Большой Лис: ЖВ
[14:20:20] огыешсук: /me . o 0 (все знаю, что веб пишут только на жабе да php, какой нафиг cpp)
[14:20:29] огыешсук: s/ю/ют
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[14:26:56] wiz_: Большой Лис, а ты сам этот nginx push трогал?
[14:27:02] dmeshr: привет
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[14:27:53] dmeshr: кто-нибудь знает, как в админке django отобразить manytomany поле как checkboxы вместо select?
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[14:29:21] Большой Лис: wiz_, нет, он преготовлен на десерт :)
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[14:31:45] sevenov: Кстати о десертах.
[14:31:52] sevenov: Пойду мороженое зохаваю.
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[14:32:57] wiz_: /me сунул nginx-push внутрь обычного и нихрена не работает как должно
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[14:35:23] wiz_: ещё и пример у них на mootools...
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[14:39:38] Большой Лис: гг
[14:39:39] Большой Лис: это да
[14:39:42] Большой Лис: неудачно
[14:40:00] Большой Лис: /me записал в todo написать клиента для этого на rightjs
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[15:14:43] RaD: ку
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[15:15:41] RaD: камрады, помогите с pyqt: есть qtablewidget, в каждой строчке есть qpushbutton, при нажатии которой вызывается моя функция (одна на все кнопки), как получить id ряда в котором была нажата кнопка
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[15:24:10] wiz_: Большой Лис, разобрался с этой хнёй в каскаде nginx
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[15:24:28] wiz_: надо указывать proxy_buffering off; когда заворачиваешь nginx-push в proxy_pass
[15:24:38] wiz_: тыкс... теперь бы его от mootools ещё отвязать
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[15:30:43] Большой Лис: wiz_, http://pushmodule.slact.net/pushmodule.conf а тут смотрел?
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[15:33:12] Большой Лис: мм?
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[15:36:27] wiz_: это для внутренего nginx
[15:36:34] wiz_: там то всё и так работает
[15:37:00] Большой Лис: о_О
[15:37:06] Большой Лис: у тебя их 2?
[15:37:40] wiz_: да
[15:37:44] wiz_: один "системный"
[15:38:03] Большой Лис: из пакетного менеджера типо?
[15:38:06] wiz_: ага
[15:38:16] Большой Лис: а ось какая?
[15:38:19] wiz_: фря
[15:38:26] Большой Лис: соболезную
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[15:42:06] Большой Лис: ну а вообще да, наверно так проще всего будет
[15:42:13] Большой Лис: я вот deb себе собрал просто :)
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[15:48:33] wiz_: мде
[15:48:37] wiz_: упал в корку
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[17:39:37] dicos: Добрый вечер. Посоветуйте что делать: достался мне проект онлайн игра. Мне кажется, что автор проекта вобрал все лучшее с сайта govnokod.ru . Каким образом убедить заказчика, что проект нужно переделать? Как вариант: Есть дыра в безопасности, и человек, зарегистрировавшись с логином ' OR 1=1 -- будет иметь доступ ко всему сайту, хотя он может сказать переделать регистрацию.
[17:40:06] xa4a_: найти дыры во всём проекте
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[17:40:13] xa4a_: сказать, что поддерживать говнокод дороже, чем переписать
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[17:40:20] xa4a_: но тогда циферки подготовить заранее
[17:40:24] xa4a_: послать нах
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[17:40:33] mishok13: предложи четкую временную оценку по переписыванию и поддержке
[17:40:38] огыешсук: а у AMD-V чего особенного должно быть в /proc/cpuinfo?
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[17:41:17] dicos: mishok13, это вариант
[17:41:21] mishok13: если будет существенный крен, в сторону большего времени, для поддержки -- думаю заказчик примет адекватное решение
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[17:44:21] dicos: Сейчас по логам посмотрел: на отображение одной страницы ходит около 1300 +- 25 запросов
[17:44:27] dicos: я в шоке
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[17:45:17] Муркт: ух ты
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[17:45:22] piranha: опа
[17:45:28] piranha: мои глаза вылазят
[17:45:40] piranha: хочется сказать lolwut
[17:45:53] nuclearworm: есть ли что-то типа dict.has_key для словаря, но для values? типа dict.has_value или вообще узнать key по value?
[17:45:56] piranha: dicos: а добраться до исполнителя есть шансы?
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[17:46:14] piranha: может убьëшь его, чтоб земля больше не терпела такой позор?
[17:46:27] mishok13: nuclearworm, итерацией, исключительно
[17:46:28] piranha: nuclearworm: перебирать словарь, пока не найдëшь
[17:46:42] nuclearworm: ясна
[17:46:49] mishok13: есть multimap, где-то на aspn
[17:47:00] mishok13: там класс на строк 40-50
[17:47:02] piranha: самому написать несложно
[17:47:05] mishok13: но он будет работать медленнее
[17:47:17] dicos: Хотя вот еще один косяк: заказчик расчитывает, что будут играть одновременно полторы тыщи человек
[17:47:29] dicos: сервер от такой нагрузки загнется
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[17:47:33] Carmaman: /me пойдет сейчас везде регаться с ' OR 1=1 ;))
[17:47:46] mishok13: dicos, ну, чо ты здесь это пишешь
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[17:47:49] mishok13: заказчику пиши
[17:47:53] mishok13: пока не поздно еще
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[20:37:18] Renji: А вот я хочу в своем скрипте юзать процедуры, взятые из другого файла, например есть куча процедур для обработки текста, они будут в отдельном файлике, рядом с основным скриптом, как лучше это сделать?
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[20:43:25] RaD: from file import func
[20:43:44] Typhon: если ты хочешь в своем скрипте юзать процедуры, взятые из другого файла, например есть процедур для обработки текста, тебе надо поместить их в отдельном файлике, рядом с основным скриптом
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[20:50:25] Renji: А если я юзаю from file import func то, процедура, которая находится в другом файле не видит процедуры основного скрипта
[20:50:31] Renji: Да и переменные тоже
[20:50:52] Renji: Нужно импортировать их, кагбе они в основном скрипте
[20:51:03] Renji: from A import B не то...
[20:51:54] Renji: более мягкий способ, чем прочитать их через как файл, и exec
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[21:08:46] wiz: вынести в третий файл и импортировать в два других
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