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[00:20:18] xa4a_: эгм
[00:20:24] xa4a_: как связаны scipy и numpy?
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[00:22:39] xa4a_: ещё pylab..
[00:22:51] xa4a_: О
[00:23:12] xa4a_: !wtf pylab numpy + scipy + matplotlib + ipython
[00:23:18] xa4a_: сцуко.
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[00:23:30] ts33kr: xa4a_, numpy - чаcть scipy
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[00:24:25] xa4a: numpy - векторы и матрицы из scipy?
[00:25:01] ts33kr: http://www.scipy.org/more_about_SciPy
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[00:27:44] xa4a: ts33kr: а ты, случайно, в генте на заморачивался по поводу использования в numpy в качестве lapack - atlas вместо дефолтного?
[00:27:58] xa4a: related: http://jesolem.blogspot.com/2009/10/is-your-numpy-using-right-atlas.html
[00:28:05] ts33kr: Неа. А в чем проблема?
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[00:29:23] ts33kr: xa4a, Там же есть юз флаг lapack
[00:29:29] xa4a: угу
[00:29:33] xa4a: и есть eselect lapack
[00:29:38] xa4a: и есть eselect blas
[00:29:50] ts33kr: Так в чем трабл?
[00:30:03] xa4a: но сколько не ковырял - тест из линка (с умножением матриц 1к х 1к) никак ниже 7с не спускается
[00:30:19] xa4a: при правильном lapack - должно быть 0.2-0.3с
[00:30:34] xa4a: пересобирал numpy, да
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[10:39:05] ts33kr is now Keep the change, you filthy animal...
[10:39:30] Typhon is now online
[10:39:48] cybergrind is now глупница
[10:39:57] wonderfulll is now xa
[10:40:56] erraen is now online
[10:41:29] ts33kr is now away
[10:41:30] ts33kr is now away
[10:44:05] ts33kr is now away
[10:44:21] ts33kr is now Keep the change, you filthy animal...
[10:44:22] ts33kr is now Keep the change, you filthy animal...
[10:44:48] cybergrind is now глупница
[10:44:57] wonderfulll is now xa
[10:45:56] erraen is now online
[10:46:33] Лорд Ляпатяпа is now online
[10:48:13] wonderfulll is now online
[10:48:13] wonderfulll is now online
[10:48:27] Муркт: django 1.2 alpha 1 релизд
[10:48:36] pr0ks is now offline
[10:49:06] ts33kr is now Keep the change, you filthy animal...
[10:49:48] cybergrind is now глупница
[10:49:58] wonderfulll is now online
[10:50:29] krivushinme is now online
[10:50:51] erraen is now offline
[10:51:07] sintetico is now Automatically away due to idle
[10:51:21] ts33kr is now away
[10:51:22] ts33kr is now away
[10:52:12] wonderfulll is now offline
[10:52:13] ts33kr is now Keep the change, you filthy animal...
[10:52:15] ts33kr is now Keep the change, you filthy animal...
[10:52:16] Муркт is now online
[10:52:28] erraen is now online
[10:52:36] denz is now away
[10:52:45] erraen is now online
[10:52:45] erraen is now online
[10:54:06] ts33kr is now Keep the change, you filthy animal...
[10:54:48] cybergrind is now глупница
[10:55:55] cybergrind is now away
[10:55:56] cybergrind is now away
[10:57:13] ts33kr is now away
[10:57:15] ts33kr is now away
[10:57:40] denz is now online
[10:57:45] erraen is now online
[10:59:07] ts33kr is now away
[10:59:48] cybergrind is now away
[11:02:45] ts33kr is now Keep the change, you filthy animal...
[11:02:46] ts33kr is now Keep the change, you filthy animal...
[11:02:46] erraen is now online
[11:04:08] ts33kr is now Keep the change, you filthy animal...
[11:04:48] cybergrind is now away
[11:07:46] erraen is now online
[11:07:49] krivushinme is now away
[11:09:08] ts33kr is now Keep the change, you filthy animal...
[11:09:48] cybergrind is now away
[11:10:30] trurl is now online
[11:12:47] erraen is now online
[11:12:47] erraen is now online
[11:13:37] Большой Лис is now online
[11:14:09] ts33kr is now Keep the change, you filthy animal...
[11:14:49] cybergrind is now away
[11:14:51] olgZZZ is now online
[11:14:52] olgZZZ is now online
[11:17:33] krivushinme is now online
[11:17:47] erraen is now online
[11:17:48] erraen is now online
[11:19:09] ts33kr is now Keep the change, you filthy animal...
[11:19:49] cybergrind is now away
[11:21:16] лорд Морфий is now away
[11:21:47] cybergrind is now away
[11:21:48] cybergrind is now глупница
[11:22:26] sintetico is now away
[11:22:32] sintetico is now Automatically away due to idle
[11:22:47] erraen is now online
[11:22:47] erraen is now online
[11:23:26] лорд Морфий is now online
[11:24:09] ts33kr is now Keep the change, you filthy animal...
[11:24:24] denz is now offline
[11:24:50] cybergrind is now глупница
[11:27:47] erraen is now online
[11:27:47] erraen is now online
[11:29:09] ts33kr is now Keep the change, you filthy animal...
[11:29:50] cybergrind is now глупница
[11:32:47] erraen is now online
[11:32:48] erraen is now online
[11:33:06] sintetico is now away
[11:33:18] vovaz04h is now offline
[11:33:33] sintetico is now Automatically away due to idle
[11:33:45] krivushinme: никто pgasync не мучал? отваливается и никак не пойму - где
[11:34:09] ts33kr is now Keep the change, you filthy animal...
[11:34:50] cybergrind is now глупница
[11:37:46] krivushinme: блин, фигня какая-то - только запустил tshark и его тут же попустило, не люблю я магию
[11:37:47] erraen is now online
[11:37:48] erraen is now online
[11:39:09] ts33kr is now Keep the change, you filthy animal...
[11:39:50] cybergrind is now глупница
[11:41:58] _vovaz04h_ is now online
[11:42:49] erraen is now online
[11:43:42] лорд Морфий is now away
[11:44:05] pzskc383 is now online
[11:44:10] ts33kr is now Keep the change, you filthy animal...
[11:44:50] cybergrind is now глупница
[11:46:02] pr0ks is now online
[11:47:30] Spo1ler is now online
[11:47:42] Spo1ler is now online
[11:47:49] erraen is now online
[11:47:49] erraen is now online
[11:48:57] лорд Морфий is now online
[11:49:10] ts33kr is now Keep the change, you filthy animal...
[11:49:50] cybergrind is now глупница
[11:51:39] dicos is now online
[11:52:50] erraen is now online
[11:52:50] erraen is now online
[11:53:14] poltergeist is now online
[11:53:15] poltergeist is now online
[11:53:51] krivushinme is now away
[11:54:10] ts33kr is now Keep the change, you filthy animal...
[11:54:50] cybergrind is now глупница
[11:57:23] ts33kr is now away
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[11:57:50] erraen is now online
[11:57:51] erraen is now online
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[11:59:50] cybergrind is now глупница
[12:00:29] sintetico is now Automatically away due to idle
[12:02:50] erraen is now online
[12:02:51] erraen is now online
[12:03:29] Лорд Ляпатяпа is now xa
[12:03:51] krivushinme is now xa
[12:04:11] ts33kr is now away
[12:04:46] krivushinme is now online
[12:04:50] cybergrind is now глупница
[12:07:23] ts33kr is now xa
[12:07:25] ts33kr is now xa
[12:07:51] erraen is now online
[12:07:52] erraen is now online
[12:09:05] лорд Морфий is now away
[12:09:11] ts33kr is now xa
[12:09:50] cybergrind is now глупница
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[12:10:20] Portnov is now away
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[12:10:34] Portnov is now online
[12:12:52] erraen is now online
[12:12:53] erraen is now online
[12:14:12] ts33kr is now xa
[12:14:50] cybergrind is now глупница
[12:15:31] Лорд Ляпатяпа is now online
[12:16:06] Typhon is now away
[12:17:52] erraen is now online
[12:17:53] erraen is now online
[12:19:12] ts33kr is now xa
[12:19:51] cybergrind is now глупница
[12:20:03] Portnov is now away
[12:20:04] Portnov is now away
[12:21:27] pzskc383 is now offline
[12:22:06] Portnov is now away
[12:22:07] Portnov is now online
[12:22:10] лорд Морфий is now online
[12:22:52] erraen is now online
[12:22:53] erraen is now online
[12:24:11] ts33kr is now xa
[12:24:51] cybergrind is now глупница
[12:26:06] Typhon is now xa
[12:26:39] Typhon is now online
[12:27:53] erraen is now online
[12:27:54] erraen is now online
[12:29:12] ts33kr is now xa
[12:29:51] cybergrind is now глупница
[12:30:43] poltergeist is now away
[12:30:44] poltergeist is now away
[12:32:03] poltergeist is now online
[12:32:06] Typhon is now away
[12:32:54] erraen is now online
[12:32:55] erraen is now online
[12:34:13] ts33kr is now xa
[12:34:52] cybergrind is now глупница
[12:37:55] erraen is now online
[12:37:55] erraen is now online
[12:38:16] cybergrind is now away
[12:38:18] cybergrind is now away
[12:39:12] ts33kr is now xa
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[12:39:42] Лорд Ляпатяпа: разбираюсь с optparse, есть смысл навешивать реальные функции в качестве колбеков?
[12:39:51] cybergrind is now away
[12:40:12] Лорд Ляпатяпа: а то из колбека не получается достать другие параметры, думаю надо ли это решать или не мучаться
[12:40:42] Лорд Ляпатяпа: может колбеки нужны так, чисто проверить аргументы или типа того
[12:40:43] poltergeist is now online
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[12:41:06] Typhon is now online
[12:42:55] erraen is now online
[12:42:56] erraen is now online
[12:43:19] cybergrind is now away
[12:43:20] cybergrind is now глупница
[12:44:13] ts33kr is now xa
[12:44:17] krivushinme: я так думаю, что если не нужны эти самые колбеки, то может и эта либа вообще не в тему?
[12:44:34] krivushinme: не одна же она
[12:44:52] cybergrind is now глупница
[12:45:07] cutwater is now online
[12:47:56] erraen is now online
[12:47:56] erraen is now online
[12:48:19] cybergrind is now away
[12:48:20] cybergrind is now away
[12:49:12] ts33kr is now xa
[12:49:52] cybergrind is now away
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[12:51:42] Typhon is now online
[12:52:56] erraen is now online
[12:52:57] erraen is now online
[12:53:19] cybergrind is now away
[12:53:20] cybergrind is now глупница
[12:54:12] ts33kr is now xa
[12:54:43] cutwater is now xa
[12:54:52] cybergrind is now глупница
[12:55:09] cutwater is now online
[12:57:56] erraen is now online
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[12:58:21] cybergrind is now away
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[12:58:34] Typhon is now away
[12:58:35] Лорд Ляпатяпа is now xa
[12:58:46] maxp is now away
[12:59:12] ts33kr is now xa
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[13:00:29] dicos is now away
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[13:02:17] _vovaz04h_ is now online
[13:02:55] erraen is now online
[13:02:56] erraen is now online
[13:03:23] cybergrind is now away
[13:03:24] cybergrind is now глупница
[13:04:13] ts33kr is now xa
[13:04:52] cybergrind is now глупница
[13:06:12] Portnov is now away
[13:06:13] Portnov is now online
[13:06:35] cutwater is now xa
[13:07:19] PC is now online
[13:07:19] Александр (eee) is now online
[13:07:42] Александр (eee) is now offline
[13:07:44] Лорд Ляпатяпа is now online
[13:07:56] erraen is now online
[13:07:56] erraen is now online
[13:08:22] cybergrind is now глупница
[13:08:24] cybergrind is now away
[13:08:34] Typhon is now xa
[13:08:56] Лорд Ляпатяпа: она стандартная и везде есть
[13:09:13] ts33kr is now xa
[13:09:17] Лорд Ляпатяпа: да могу и без колбеков сделать, просто с ними лучше код структурирован
[13:09:49] cybergrind is now глупница
[13:09:50] cybergrind is now глупница
[13:09:53] cybergrind is now глупница
[13:10:07] Typhon is now online
[13:12:56] erraen is now online
[13:12:57] erraen is now online
[13:14:13] ts33kr is now xa
[13:14:43] olgZZZ is now xa
[13:14:49] cybergrind is now away
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[13:15:46] cybergrind is now глупница
[13:15:47] cybergrind is now глупница
[13:16:51] krivushinme is now away
[13:17:57] erraen is now online
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[13:19:13] ts33kr is now xa
[13:19:46] Typhon is now offline
[13:19:49] Typhon is now online
[13:19:54] cybergrind is now глупница
[13:22:57] erraen is now online
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[13:24:13] ts33kr is now xa
[13:24:26] pr0ks is now away
[13:24:42] PC is now away
[13:24:54] cybergrind is now глупница
[13:25:37] krivushinme is now online
[13:27:06] PC is now online
[13:27:58] erraen is now online
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[13:28:53] poltergeist is now away
[13:29:14] ts33kr is now xa
[13:29:54] cybergrind is now глупница
[13:31:20] sintetico is now away
[13:32:59] erraen is now online
[13:32:59] erraen is now online
[13:33:53] poltergeist is now online
[13:34:14] ts33kr is now xa
[13:34:54] cybergrind is now глупница
[13:37:53] poltergeist is now away
[13:37:59] erraen is now online
[13:37:59] erraen is now online
[13:39:15] ts33kr is now xa
[13:39:54] cybergrind is now глупница
[13:41:13] Optik is now Доступен
[13:41:19] sintetico is now xa
[13:41:33] olgZZZ is now online
[13:41:34] olgZZZ is now online
[13:42:20] cybergrind is now away
[13:42:21] cybergrind is now away
[13:42:59] erraen is now online
[13:43:00] erraen is now online
[13:44:16] ts33kr is now xa
[13:44:21] pr0ks is now xa
[13:44:54] cybergrind is now away
[13:45:44] cybergrind is now глупница
[13:45:45] cybergrind is now глупница
[13:45:53] poltergeist is now xa
[13:45:54] poltergeist is now xa
[13:47:20] maxp is now away
[13:47:59] erraen is now online
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[13:49:16] ts33kr is now xa
[13:49:55] cybergrind is now глупница
[13:52:24] cybergrind is now away
[13:52:25] cybergrind is now away
[13:52:59] erraen is now online
[13:54:17] ts33kr is now xa
[13:54:55] cybergrind is now away
[13:57:14] pzskc383 is now online
[13:57:17] Portnov is now away
[13:57:18] Portnov is now away
[13:57:21] cybergrind is now away
[13:57:22] cybergrind is now глупница
[13:58:00] erraen is now online
[13:58:13] krivushinme: Вопрос - кто чем для передачи сообщений между компонентами в проектах пользуется? Мне amqp слегка избыточным показался
[13:59:17] ts33kr is now xa
[13:59:18] Portnov is now away
[13:59:20] Portnov is now online
[13:59:55] cybergrind is now глупница
[14:02:20] Portnov is now online
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[14:02:23] cybergrind is now away
[14:02:34] cybergrind is now away
[14:02:35] cybergrind is now глупница
[14:02:47] poltergeist is now online
[14:03:00] erraen is now online
[14:03:01] erraen is now online
[14:04:18] ts33kr is now xa
[14:04:55] cybergrind is now глупница
[14:06:23] Большой Лис is now away
[14:06:27] Большой Лис is now online
[14:06:56] dicos is now away
[14:06:57] dicos is now online
[14:08:00] erraen is now online
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[14:09:18] ts33kr is now xa
[14:09:26] PC is now away
[14:09:55] cybergrind is now глупница
[14:11:29] Большой Лис is now away
[14:11:55] Большой Лис is now online
[14:12:56] PC is now online
[14:13:00] erraen is now online
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[14:13:33] cybergrind is now away
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[14:14:18] ts33kr is now xa
[14:14:39] cybergrind is now глупница
[14:14:40] cybergrind is now глупница
[14:14:56] cybergrind is now глупница
[14:18:01] erraen is now online
[14:18:02] erraen is now online
[14:19:19] ts33kr is now xa
[14:19:56] cybergrind is now глупница
[14:20:13] cutwater is now online
[14:21:08] plkjm is now online
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[14:23:01] erraen is now online
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[14:24:18] ts33kr is now xa
[14:24:56] cybergrind is now глупница
[14:24:58] sintetico is now Automatically away due to idle
[14:26:45] _vovaz04h_ is now away
[14:26:47] _vovaz04h_ is now online
[14:28:02] erraen is now online
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[14:29:18] ts33kr is now xa
[14:29:57] cybergrind is now глупница
[14:29:58] sintetico is now away
[14:31:52] cybergrind is now away
[14:31:53] cybergrind is now away
[14:33:02] erraen is now online
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[14:34:57] cybergrind is now away
[14:36:05] mightydok is now away
[14:36:52] cybergrind is now away
[14:36:53] cybergrind is now глупница
[14:38:02] erraen is now online
[14:38:03] erraen is now online
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[14:39:19] ts33kr is now xa
[14:39:57] cybergrind is now глупница
[14:39:58] sintetico is now xa
[14:41:49] Spo1ler is now offline
[14:43:02] erraen is now online
[14:43:03] erraen is now online
[14:44:20] ts33kr is now xa
[14:44:48] лорд Морфий is now away
[14:44:57] cybergrind is now глупница
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[14:49:57] cybergrind is now глупница
[14:51:39] sintetico is now Automatically away due to idle
[14:51:55] cutwater is now xa
[14:53:03] erraen is now online
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[14:53:42] trurl is now online
[14:53:44] trurl is now online
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[14:54:20] ts33kr is now xa
[14:54:57] cybergrind is now away
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[14:55:14] dicos is now online
[14:55:42] лорд Морфий is now away
[14:57:47] sintetico is now offline
[14:57:51] sintetico is now Automatically away due to idle
[14:58:04] erraen is now online
[14:58:04] erraen is now online
[14:59:20] ts33kr is now xa
[14:59:58] cybergrind is now away
[15:00:42] poltergeist is now away
[15:03:04] erraen is now online
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[15:04:21] ts33kr is now xa
[15:04:58] cybergrind is now away
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[15:06:51] krivushinme is now online
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[15:09:22] ts33kr is now xa
[15:09:57] cybergrind is now away
[15:13:04] erraen is now online
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[15:14:11] cybergrind is now глупница
[15:14:12] cybergrind is now глупница
[15:14:22] ts33kr is now xa
[15:14:58] cybergrind is now глупница
[15:15:41] лорд Морфий is now xa
[15:18:04] erraen is now online
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[15:19:22] ts33kr is now xa
[15:19:58] cybergrind is now глупница
[15:21:05] jolits is now xa
[15:22:13] jolits is now xa
[15:23:04] erraen is now online
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[15:24:22] ts33kr is now xa
[15:24:58] cybergrind is now глупница
[15:25:59] krivushinme is now away
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[15:28:20] огыешсук is now offline
[15:29:02] огыешсук is now online
[15:29:23] ts33kr is now xa
[15:29:58] cybergrind is now глупница
[15:32:14] gigimon is now Да, я здесь.
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[17:03:29] albb: Добрый вечер, господа!
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[17:05:30] albb: Вопчем я созрел до написания маленькой программки на python. Пытаюсь исполнить пример из http://thpinfo.com/2007/python-jabberbot/ Но питон говори, что у меня ошибка в class SystemInfoJabberBot(JabberBot): питон неожидает открывающую скобку.
[17:05:45] albb: Что не так?
[17:06:10] Большой Лис: покажи traceback
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[17:06:25] albb: from: can't read /var/mail/jabberbot
./bot.py: line 4: syntax error near unexpected token `('
./bot.py: line 4: `class SystemInfoJabberBot (JabberBot):'
[17:06:44] Большой Лис: ээ
[17:06:52] albb: Ах да, позле запуска мышиный курсор меняет свою форму и только после клика где-либо вываливается ошибка
[17:07:09] Большой Лис: ты ж его НЕ bash-ем запускай, а питоном
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[17:07:27] albb: Балин...
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[17:07:46] albb: Вот я балда. Мне показалось у меня питоновский шабанг написан.
[17:08:05] albb: Большой Лис, как определил?
[17:08:27] Муркт: по трейсбеку, наверное. Не питоновский он :)
[17:08:53] albb: Ага... значит надо свою экспу прокачивать :)
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[17:10:50] albb: Блин, давно тут не был, всё забыл. Магический пони какие либы использует? Или он на джанге?
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[17:25:46] krivushinme: albb, загляни ему в инфо
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[17:30:19] Муркт: albb: эммм, ты про бота silent_bob? а при чём тут джанга к джабберным ботам? :)
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[17:33:17] albb: Да да, про бота. Он сам по себе написан или с использованием какого-либо фреймворка?
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[17:34:35] Большой Лис: py-xmpp какой нибудь
[17:35:04] albb: Так это просто либа для работы с xmpp в python
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[17:35:14] Большой Лис: http://bitbucket.org/xa4a/xapy/src/
[17:35:18] Большой Лис: вот его исходники
[17:35:30] albb: О, сенкс.
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[17:41:43] albb: Документации по нему нету?
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[17:42:15] Муркт: тут иногда бывает живая документация
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[17:43:07] albb: В виду того, что я не программист и с питоном дела не имел, "живая" документация меня тут забанит. :)
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[17:43:29] Муркт: ну не факт
[17:43:49] albb: Что умеет этот бот?
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[17:44:51] Муркт: я думаю, что список достаточно длинный
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[17:45:11] albb: Воооот. Потому и говорю о доках.
[17:45:33] Муркт: читай код - он там должен быть более-менее понятный и так :)
[17:45:43] Лорд Ляпатяпа: докстринги есть
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[17:45:56] Муркт: xa4a_: тут?
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[17:46:31] albb: Хорошо, когда у тебя глаз намётан. ОК. Буду по другому спрашивать. Меня интересует "общение" с пользователем. Есть такая фича?
[17:46:44] Муркт: silent_bob: скажи "ку-ку"
[17:47:17] albb: silent_bob, help
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[17:47:22] Муркт: !help
[17:47:27] Муркт: сделай так
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[17:47:34] albb: !help
[17:47:46] albb: Ну собственно уже видно, что умеет :)
[17:48:14] Муркт: ну так-то он просто отвечает рандомной фразой из загашника.
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[17:48:26] Муркт: какой-нибудь умностью
[17:48:37] Муркт: типа глиняного горшочка :-D
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[18:46:47] alexrussia: всем привет такой вопрос про django сайты : можно ли на хостинге ставить только .pyc файлы , сайт будет работать или все же нужны .py файлы для нормальной работы ?
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[19:18:15] : xa4a установил(а) тему: Python.SU | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи на google.com | За голосом - в приват к модераторам | Код постить в dumpz.org | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://➡.ws/pu | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Третий тупой вопрос за сутки — на http://throwcatch.me | Ещё рано использовать py3k
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[19:20:47] alexrussia: Муркт посмотрел в доках наш модуль example.py значит чтоб скопилировать в консоли надо ввести : -oo example.py ?
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[19:23:29] xa4a: я тут
[19:23:38] xa4a: ближайшие 10 минут отвечу на все вопросы по боту)
[19:23:42] xa4a: потом через час буду
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[19:24:23] albb: Помимо выплёвывания случайной фразы бот умеет "отвечать" на вопросы?
[19:24:36] xa4a: да
[19:24:44] albb: Как это происходит?
[19:24:45] xa4a: !decide "умеет" "не умеет"
[19:24:55] xa4a: как-то так
[19:24:57] albb: !decide
[19:25:15] albb: !decide прям парам парам опилки
[19:25:34] albb: xa4a, что-нибудь ещё?
[19:25:45] xa4a: !help
[19:25:54] albb: !help
[19:25:55] xa4a: !list
[19:25:59] xa4a: не.. листа нет
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[19:26:25] albb: В данный момент меня интересует именно возможность "общения".
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[19:27:11] albb: !decide to be or not to be
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[19:27:39] xa4a: кавычки
[19:27:50] albb: Да это я так :)
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[19:28:30] albb: xa4a, не хочешь доку по боту написать?
[19:29:03] xa4a: хочу!
[19:29:09] xa4a: ещё хочу его сильно рефакторить
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[19:29:19] xa4a: но рефакторить хочу так сильно, что не знаю, с какой стороны подойти)
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[19:29:26] albb: !projanme
[19:29:29] xa4a: а доку - не так сильно, вроде
[19:29:39] xa4a: доку написал бы. нужен толчок только)
[19:29:42] xa4a: !projname
[19:30:04] albb: В выводе хелпа опечатка
[19:30:16] xa4a: спс
[19:30:20] albb: !projidea
[19:30:39] albb: Охренеть...
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[19:31:05] albb: Классный генератор идей :)
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[19:36:38] xa4a: буду через час. идеи насчёт документации вылушаю с радостью.
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[19:36:54] xa4a: хотя бы в каком направлении доку. для юзера, или API
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[19:37:20] albb: В данный момент меня интересует API :)
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[20:34:57] albb: Импортирую из pyxmpp три модуля. Названия длинные. При создании объекта приходится писать "путь" к классу целиком. Можно это как-то сократить?
import pyxmpp.jabber.client
import pyxmpp.jabber.muc
import pyxmpp.jabber.muccore
bot = pyxmpp.jabber.client.JabberClient(username, password, server)
[20:35:41] RaD: from pyxmpp.jabber import client, muc, ...
[20:35:42] Лорд Ляпатяпа: muc = pyxmpp.jabber.muc
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[20:36:14] albb: Спс.
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[20:39:10] albb: from pyxmpp.jabber import client, muc, ...
bot = client.JabberClient(username, password, server)
Можно избавится от "client" перед "JabberClient" ?
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[20:42:09] Лорд Ляпатяпа: from pyxmpp.jabber.client import JabberClient
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[20:44:12] albb: Лорд Ляпатяпа, но тогда мне придётся каждый класс импортировать, если их там несколько будет.
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[20:45:13] Лорд Ляпатяпа: albb, сокращать можно двумя способами - либо грамотным импортом, либо присваиванием
[20:45:40] albb: Впрочем, это уже не pyxmpp.jabber. Сойдёт и так на первое время, а дальше видно будет.
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[20:47:03] albb: Не знаете, xa4a сам писал общение бота с сервером или использовал pyxmpp/xmpppy?
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[20:52:08] RaD: конечно сам
[20:52:14] RaD: он тру программер :)
[20:52:21] albb: :)
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[20:52:54] albb: Жаль. Т.к. я не тру мне будет сложно ещё и протокол реализовывать.
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[21:17:03] alexrussia: у меня такая проблема с консоли : .../site-packeges/mysqldb/__init__.py deprecation warning sets module is deprecated
[21:17:12] alexrussia: python26
[21:17:24] alexrussia: винда
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[21:19:36] xa4a: albb: я юзал xmpppy
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[21:23:41] Муркт: albb: это была очевидная шутка :)
[21:23:46] albb: xa4a, на pyxmpp не смотрел?
[21:24:14] Муркт: albb: а то, что ты не программер - вопрос времени и желания. Судя по тому, что и как ты пишешь - мозг у тебя есть :)
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[21:25:27] albb: Мозг-то есть... Только вот pyxmpp чегой-то мутным очень кажется. На xmpppy не смотрю из-за лицензии. Может ещё что-нибудь есть для xmpp?
[21:25:29] Муркт: вот был тут один автор бота... isida кажется, звали того бота, а автора - Disabler. Вот это было да! Феерически :)
[21:25:51] Муркт: а какая у xmpppy лицензия? GPL?
[21:25:57] albb: Угу.
[21:26:05] Муркт: уныло
[21:26:15] Муркт: и зачем, спрашивается
[21:26:22] albb: Мне не подходит ибо за заставит мой код тоже под GPL выкладывать.
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[21:27:26] Муркт: та отож
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[21:29:58] Александр (eee): а есть практики которые писали интернациональные приложения на джанге?
[21:30:20] Муркт: насколько интернациональные? так чтоб интерфейс менялся, или контент?
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[21:30:39] Александр (eee): я вот сейчас задумываюсь
[21:30:46] Александр (eee): как быть с окончаниями
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[21:31:11] albb: О, даа. С русским языком будет весьма весело :)
[21:31:12] Александр (eee): сейчас сайт на русском и контент русский, использую pytils
[21:31:34] Александр (eee): хочу сделать английскую версию
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[21:32:38] Александр (eee): сайт user generated content
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[21:35:10] Александр (eee): и тишина
[21:35:43] Муркт: а сказать нечего :)
[21:36:19] Александр (eee): Муркт, я что-то не так сформулировал может быть? :-)
[21:36:42] Муркт: ну ты спросил есть ли практики
[21:36:53] Муркт: практиков нет, я только один уточняющий вопрос задал (просто из интереса)
[21:37:07] Александр (eee): ок, теоретики :-)
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[21:37:21] Александр (eee): ну или хоть сколько-нибудь знающие
[21:37:30] Муркт: других вопросов пока не было :)
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[21:38:11] Александр (eee): как быть с окончаниями?
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[21:39:47] Муркт: ну если отвечать на вопрос в такой же форме, как он задан, то "дружить", а что с ними не так? с окончаниями?
[21:40:09] xa4a: albb: на pyxmpp не смотрел. с xmppy не мутно, т.к. на сайте есть несколько примеров, по которым всё ясно, вощем-та
[21:40:20] xa4a: /me уже совсем тут.
[21:40:31] Муркт: сейчас сам придумаю, что с ними не так
[21:40:41] Муркт: делаешь какой-нибудь тег, которому отдаёшь базовую форму и число
[21:41:18] Муркт: ладно, это я фигню говорю
[21:41:41] xa4a: вроде в gettext такое есть
[21:41:48] xa4a: похожее что-то
[21:41:50] Муркт: xa4a: ему не нравится лицензия у xmpppy
[21:41:55] xa4a: да, я прочитал
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[21:42:21] xa4a: о. а никто, случайно, практикой распознания изображений не занимается?
[21:42:22] Александр (eee): ну вот есть в шаблоне такое {{ post.comments_count|choose_plural("комментарий, комментария, комментариев") }}
[21:42:28] albb: А у pyxmpp документация автоматом сгенерирована. Примеров нет. Гугл молчит... В общем не рулит фича, как я понял. Пытаюсь по описанию методов выяснить, что мне надо :)
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[21:42:43] Александр (eee): может и в контексте какой-то фразы
[21:43:06] Александр (eee): "За этот комментарий проголосовали 25 раз", например
[21:43:22] Муркт: Александр (eee): ну, я знаю только языки типа русского - с тремя формами (один, два-четыре, больше пяти), и типа английского (один, много)
[21:44:19] Муркт: для языков английского типа просто пишешь две последних формы одинаковые, а если какие-то индейцы наглеют и у них форм больше - пусть горят в аду :)
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[21:44:27] albb: Александр (eee), помнится мы в универе такие задачки на бейские на информатике решали. Вот я там парился. Косо-криво, но сделал. Напиши табличку всех окончаний, вспомни когда, какое ставится и вперёд :)
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[21:45:30] Муркт: albb: вспомни, что у него тридцать разных языков
[21:45:35] Муркт: они могут добавляться
[21:45:36] Александр (eee): Муркт, грубо говоря {{ post.comments_count|choose_plural(_("комментарий, комментария, комментариев")) }}
[21:45:42] Муркт: потом повтори предложение :)
[21:45:44] Муркт: Александр (eee): типа того
[21:45:45] Александр (eee): так нормально будет?
[21:45:51] albb: А, ну если куча языков, тогда трабла.
[21:46:00] Муркт: albb: ну так в этом же и есть вопрос! :)
[21:46:02] albb: Надо лингвистов подключать.
[21:46:08] Муркт: не в лингвистах дело
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[21:46:30] albb: Почему. Они расскажут в каком языке в каких случаях какие окончания ставить надо.
[21:46:32] xa4a: спросите у вконтактика
[21:46:37] Муркт: Александр (eee): только я не уверен, что джанга оттуда достанет строку эту для перевода
[21:46:44] xa4a: хотя там, по-моему, всё решено упрощением интерфейса
[21:46:50] Муркт: но я с джангой давно общался.
[21:46:55] xa4a: до именительного падежа везде, где можно
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[21:47:45] Муркт: "двадцать три комментарий"
[21:48:01] Александр (eee): комментарии (23)
[21:48:14] albb: И "шт" припиши :)
[21:48:49] Муркт: двадцать три штука комментарий
[21:48:52] Александр (eee): Муркт, если эта строка попадёт в сгенерированный джангой *.mo, то ок будет?
[21:49:05] Муркт: Александр (eee): наверное...
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[21:51:53] albb: Урааа, я нашёл в доках пример эхо бота! :)
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[22:06:39] Александр (eee): блин
[22:06:45] Александр (eee): не хочет генерировать
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[22:09:12] Муркт: проблема.
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[22:12:35] Александр (eee): {%- set filters = [
('latest', 'latest', _('Новые')),
('votes', 'votes', _('Популярные')),
] -%}
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[22:12:52] Александр (eee): Даже эти фразы почему-то не заносит
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[23:35:05] alexrussia: ребят нужна срочно помощь ввел mange.py syncdb потом перешел к созданию суперпользователя и на введении пароля почему то не печатаются буквы с чем связано ?
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[23:41:02] Большой Лис: о_О
[23:41:04] Большой Лис: :DDD
[23:41:18] Большой Лис: alexrussia, так и должно быть типо
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[23:42:45] alexrussia: Большой Лис ну а почему в консоле требует пароль ? почему не закончится создание суперпользователя на введения мыла ?
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[23:55:12] Александр (eee): это
[23:56:14] Александр (eee): а при исполнени ./manage.py makemessages, файлы шаблонов для xgettext передаются с питонячим форматом?
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[23:58:47] alexrussia: Большой Лис а как посмотреть всех созданных суперпользователей ?
[23:59:18] Большой Лис: User.objects
[23:59:23] Большой Лис: ну и дальше параметры фильтрации
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[23:59:53] alexrussia: Большой Лис в смысле через консоль