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[01:47:54] gigimon: народ, подскажите, а можно ли стандартными средствами сериализовать джанго модель без вывода pk, model, только поля
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[01:49:54] xa4a_: вроде нет
[01:50:51] gigimon: понятно, придется свое пытаться (:
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[09:02:35] albb: Приветствую!
[09:03:28] albb: Читаю доку по питону но видимо плохо. Мне нужно определить свой тип данных, подобно union в C. Как это сделать?
[09:04:05] ts33kr: Как и в любом другом ОО ЯП.
[09:04:07] ts33kr: Определить класс.
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[09:04:50] albb: Иначе никак?
[09:05:02] ts33kr: А как "иначе"?
[09:05:14] ts33kr: И чем тебе не подходить класс?
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[09:05:23] albb: Вот я не знаю. В C замечательный union есть.
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[09:05:50] albb: Сколько памяти уходит на класс, помимо объявленных в нём данных?
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[09:06:49] ts33kr: Это не входит в спецификации языка ни коим образом. Это зависит от платформы и реализации.
[09:07:27] albb: Методы определения существуют? Если да, то какие?
[09:07:45] ts33kr: Почитать сорсы конкретной реализации, CPython, к примеру.
[09:07:47] ts33kr: Но зачем?
[09:07:58] albb: Для повышения образованности.
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[09:08:23] albb: Я тут одну не хорошую штуку задумал. Полагаю она будет ооочень много памяти кушать.
[09:08:24] ts33kr: Это чуть более, чем полностью бесполезно, в данном случае.
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[09:15:24] albb: А могу я теперь создать массив, элементами которого будут являться объекты некоего класса?
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[09:16:09] albb: Сделать этот массив списком?
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[09:17:47] ts33kr: Можешь.
[09:17:52] ts33kr: Читай документацию, что-ли?
[09:18:05] ts33kr: А то это уже вопросы совсем уровня детского садика.
[09:18:09] albb: Сомнения раздирают :)
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[09:23:41] gigimon: albb: а ты попробуй
[09:24:14] albb: Да вот, пробую. При создании объекта ругань идёт.
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[09:37:22] albb: Надо создать двумерный массив. Делаю так:
links = []
for i in range(20):
links.append([0, 0])
, но мне не нравится. Есть другой способ?
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[09:40:01] ts33kr: links = [[0, 0] for x in xrange(20)]
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[09:41:53] albb: ts33kr, объясни, плиз, как это работает.
[09:42:07] ts33kr: Не обьясню.
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[09:42:14] ts33kr: Это описано в документации.
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[09:42:39] gigimon: )
[09:42:45] ts33kr: Если твое величество не удосуживает себя надобностью её прочесть, то я не собираюсь работать пересказывателем за бесплатно.
[09:43:26] albb: ts33kr, вот про "величество" не надо. Посылы в доку я понимаю и уже ищу там.
[09:43:28] albb: Спасибо.
[09:44:02] ts33kr: Ты вместо того, чтобы искать, возьми да и прочти официальный tutorial, от начала и до конца. И подобные вопросы отпадут.
[09:44:28] albb: Тяжко его на английском читать.
[09:44:53] ts33kr: Без знания английского, в программирование, только одна дорога. В /dev/null. Без шуток.
[09:45:20] ts33kr: *и
[09:45:51] albb: Ничего, мы /dev/null как симлинк на что-нибудь полезное прокинем :)
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[10:06:55] Лорд Ляпатяпа: gigimon, по серверу всё заглохло?
[10:07:43] gigimon: увы, да )
[10:08:01] gigimon: как бы никого не нашел, а сам задачу сильнее чем для нормального ВПСа не нашел (:
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[10:09:28] Лорд Ляпатяпа: кейвеб меня заебал
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[10:11:55] Лорд Ляпатяпа: за ночь 50 багрепортов получил, все как обычно невнятные, типа broken pipe не существующий файл шаблона или там импорт не срабатывает каждый раз на разные модули
[10:12:07] Лорд Ляпатяпа: вроде и нагрузка небольшая....
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[10:25:08] gigimon: Лорд Ляпатяпа: сваливай
[10:25:12] albb: ts33kr, нашёл, почитал. Вопрос такой. Твой вариант будет быстрее работать или также (без учёта range() xrange())?
[10:25:36] gigimon: albb: ты высокопроизводительное ПО писать собрался?
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[10:26:01] albb: А, понял
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[10:26:20] gigimon: Лорд Ляпатяпа: тут народ на кликхосте сидит, я на русском хостинге одном
[10:26:30] albb: Понял, понял. Надо просто потестить на скорость оба варианта :)
[10:26:42] albb: gigimon, не, у меня объектов будет много.
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[10:27:05] gigimon: и что быстрее?
[10:27:14] albb: Сейчас проверю.
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[10:28:18] ts33kr: Конечно же LC быстрее.
[10:28:40] albb: Что есть LC?
[10:28:53] ts33kr: List Comprehensions...
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[10:29:33] albb: Кстати, как правильно Comprehensions по-русски будет? В словаре несколько вариантов.
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[10:51:43] Лорд Ляпатяпа: списковые включения
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[10:51:49] Лорд Ляпатяпа: или что-то подобное
[10:52:23] Лорд Ляпатяпа: дело в том, что
[10:52:35] Лорд Ляпатяпа: при append список постоянно модифицируется
[10:52:48] Лорд Ляпатяпа: а при LC создается, притом с минимальными издержками
[10:53:15] Лорд Ляпатяпа: и это правильно
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[12:12:14] generatorglukoff [ляптоп] is now online
[12:12:37] generatorglukoff [ляптоп]: http://svarga.piranha.org.ua/wiki/RequestWorkflow
[12:12:47] generatorglukoff [ляптоп]: пофиксите плз
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[13:12:35] xa4a_: тут на /r/django/ говорят, что flickzeug круче просто дебагера от werkzeug. кто-то юзал?
[13:12:52] xa4a_: Flickzeug is a work in progress WSGI utility library for debugging and error handling. It's the successor of Werkzeug's debugging component
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[13:14:47] XIT is now dnd
[13:15:02] xa4a_: http://dev.pocoo.org/~mitsuhiko/leakfinder.png чего-то такого
[13:15:21] Spo1ler is now online
[13:15:22] ts33kr: Солидно.
[13:15:38] ts33kr: xa4a_, Поковыряешь -- расскажи, как оно.
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[13:32:24] nmk: нихуясебеблядь
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[13:36:10] gigimon: графиков та
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[13:49:50] gigimon: ой
[13:51:43] cybergrind is now глупница
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[13:57:05] erraen is now online
[13:59:00] xa4a_: leakfinder работает, чо.. показывает графики кол-ва объектов каждого типа во времени.. правда пока графики все рендерятся у меня че-то фф блокируется :\
[13:59:27] SV0L0CH is now xa
[13:59:42] XIT is now dnd
[14:00:04] xa4a_: и, похоже, ещё можно каждый из объектов взять, посмотреть
[14:01:44] cybergrind is now глупница
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[14:03:02] SV0L0CH is now online
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[14:06:45] cybergrind is now глупница
[14:07:02] ts33kr is now online
[14:07:06] erraen is now online
[14:07:23] ts33kr is now Я - снежинка. И ниибед...
[14:07:24] ts33kr is now Я - снежинка. И ниибед...
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[14:11:45] cybergrind is now глупница
[14:11:53] xa4a_: по каждому объекту картинки типа такой http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/223/scrj.png рисует..
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[14:12:06] erraen is now online
[14:12:17] xa4a_: правда, после нажатия Show entire tree of reachable objects пришлось его убить на третьем гиге памяти :\
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[14:54:35] piranha is now Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication
[14:54:47] XIT is now dnd
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[14:57:12] erraen is now online
[14:57:43] cybergrind is now глупница
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[14:58:42] piranha: generatorglukoff: thx, починил
[14:59:48] XIT is now dnd
[15:00:12] cutwater is now online
[15:00:13] generatorglukoff: piranha: спсб
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[15:01:30] GrimbleGromble is now online
[15:01:33] Лорд Ляпатяпа: piranha, а если юзать сваргу с монгодб, проблемы ожидаются?
[15:01:46] piranha: Лорд Ляпатяпа: да нет, не ожидается
[15:02:07] ts33kr is now Я - снежинка. И ниибед...
[15:02:12] Лорд Ляпатяпа: ну я в том плане, что не заточена она под алхимию?
[15:02:13] erraen is now online
[15:02:17] piranha: Лорд Ляпатяпа: ну, учти только, что у нас пока нету бекенда для монги, потому всякие сессии и аутентификация работать не будет
[15:02:19] Лорд Ляпатяпа: как джанго на свою орм
[15:02:23] piranha: но мы планируем наш синтаксис юзать для всех сразу
[15:02:29] piranha: короче смотри какая ситуация
[15:02:43] cybergrind is now глупница
[15:02:47] piranha: у нас есть синтаксис а-ля джанговский для всяких запросов, а он мапится уже на то, что ты там юзаешь
[15:03:10] piranha: в основном мы просто прикрываем алхимию, которая выглядит непрезентабельно, но есть бекенд и для ГАЕ
[15:03:37] xa4a_: кстати, прикрутив flickzeug profiler - сразу четко так видно, что темплаты - 48% времени занимают..
[15:03:47] Лорд Ляпатяпа: звучит заманчиво
[15:03:50] piranha: оно всë еще не сверхкруто, и надо обтачивать (по-моему, запросы еще никто не пилил, и у нас только объявление моделей мапится, а дальше ты ющаешь оригинальный синтаксис)
[15:03:51] keyptor is now online
[15:04:00] piranha: но я про это место не уверен, потому что не касался его уже месяца два :((
[15:04:07] piranha: xa4a_: охохо клëво :\
[15:04:08] gigimon is now Да, я здесь.
[15:04:21] xa4a_: piranha: а ты flickzeug не крутил?
[15:04:28] Portnov is now away
[15:04:36] piranha: xa4a_: не-а, но судя по всему, надо ;)
[15:04:47] piranha: я думал, что это просто выдранный дебаггер
[15:04:48] XIT is now dnd
[15:04:49] cybergrind is now offline
[15:04:55] xa4a_: вот, думаю, что отличная тема, чтобы блог свой оживить
[15:04:56] albb is now away
[15:04:59] piranha: видел, Армин зовëт кого-нить взяться за его поддержку? %)
[15:05:02] piranha: угу
[15:05:14] xa4a_: не
[15:05:22] piranha: lucumr.pocoo.org
[15:05:26] piranha: предпоследний псто
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[15:06:41] Лорд Ляпатяпа: только есть одна проблема, монго - это совсем не мускуль и нуждается в своем подходе, короче делать совместимые запросы имхо нереально
[15:06:55] Лорд Ляпатяпа: а как в сварге с интернационализацией шаблонов?
[15:06:57] piranha: ну да, полностью одинаково не сделаешь )
[15:07:00] piranha: jianj2
[15:07:05] piranha: *jinja2 юзается
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[15:07:25] Лорд Ляпатяпа: как в джанге, одна команда генерирует файл с переводами и для пайтона и для шаблонов?
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[15:08:08] piranha: хммм
[15:08:13] piranha: мне кажется, что команды еще нету ;)))
[15:08:15] Лорд Ляпатяпа: просто у меня уже локализация работает на джанговских шаблонах и из за нее я даже джинжу не пробовал
[15:08:32] Лорд Ляпатяпа: надо вручную составлять файл с исходниками и переводами?
[15:08:41] piranha: т.е. локализация еще не дождалась никого :)
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[15:08:59] piranha: надо вручную написать команду скорее всего, потому что мы геттекст нигде не юзаем сейчас ;)
[15:09:04] piranha: джинджа вроде хочет Babel
[15:09:07] piranha: afk
[15:09:10] Лорд Ляпатяпа: ууу
[15:09:28] Лорд Ляпатяпа: ну понятно... ладно, посмотрю как-нибудь доки по сварге и исходники
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[15:09:49] Лорд Ляпатяпа: диплом получил, бум заниматься программированием в свое удовольствие
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[15:11:29] Лорд Ляпатяпа: надеюсь по скорости джангу делает?
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[15:31:43] piranha: Лорд Ляпатяпа: на тупом-тупом хелловорлде выходит примерно одинаково, добавляешь урлы, темплейты, етц - и выходит быстрее
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[15:32:00] piranha: урлы в джанге деградируют очень быстро
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[15:32:17] piranha: темплейты - само собой, тоже, особенно когда у тебя 3-4 уровня вложенности; сразу вся производительность улетает в топку
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[16:52:54] gigimon: товарищи, подскажите, а как на js сделать такое (аналог с питона)
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[16:54:29] xa4a_: gigimon: попробуй
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[16:54:40] gigimon: ща))
[16:54:44] gigimon: я чет задумался
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[16:56:27] gigimon: >>> a={}
>>> for c in b:
... a[c]=5
...
>>> a
{'a': 5, 'c': 5, 'b': 5}
[16:56:30] gigimon: во )) такое
[16:56:48] gigimon: в js чет затыкаюсь, делаю так:
[16:57:03] gigimon: var a = new Object()
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[16:58:20] gigimon: вопрос пока отклонен ))
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[17:00:09] gigimon: во, на js делаю так:
var a = new Object();
var b = ['a','b','c']
for (c in b){
a[c]=5;
}
alert(a['b']);
[17:00:16] gigimon: гвоорит undefined
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[17:00:55] xa4a_: может a.c = 5
[17:01:02] nmk: не
[17:01:02] xa4a_: alert(a.b)
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[17:01:06] xa4a_: а, не
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[17:01:29] gigimon: как мне в объект добавить значения?
[17:01:39] gigimon: с именем которые где-то
[17:01:44] nmk: for in по массивам это надо понимать что делаешь
[17:01:47] expee: ура в сапорте ответили по вчерашней проблеме с локалями в фидах django =)
[17:02:22] gigimon: nmk а что не так? беру значения, или нет?
[17:02:23] nmk: for (var i =0; i < a.length; i++) { a[b[i] = 5}
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[17:02:30] expee: сказали что пока не будут патч ставить, но предложили как можно исправить) если интересно кому - напишу
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[17:03:12] gigimon: nmk тут наверно b.length?
[17:03:25] nmk: да, конечно
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[17:03:35] gigimon: а без индекса никак чтоли не подобавлять значения именованные?
[17:03:48] xa4a_: а какие есть под линукс аналоги ark?
[17:03:54] nmk: ну ты почитай что есть for in
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[17:04:07] gigimon: nmk а обращаться потом как? по имени или индексу?
[17:04:13] nmk: да как обычно
[17:04:17] nmk: ну в смысле как у тебя и было
[17:04:20] nmk: только цикл замени
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[17:04:31] gigimon: ок,спс
[17:04:38] gigimon: щас поглубже прочитаю
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[17:05:15] nmk: но про for in прочитай. просто если у тебя класс массива будет добит какими-нибудь методами,то они у тебя вылезут в for in. а вообще в твоем примере надо было только написать a[b[c]] = 5
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[17:06:05] gigimon: а
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[17:07:41] gigimon: nmk спасибо
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[17:09:00] lpkir: Всем добрый вечер.Вопрос такой: можно ли включить поддержку Flash плеера в PyWebKit. Если да, то как это сделать
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[17:40:42] krivushinme: а что, на gihub-е больше пяти репо нельзя иметь?
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[17:41:07] RaD: камрады, подкиньте инфу как правильно собрать пакет с питонским приложением под свежий дебиан?
[17:41:17] krivushinme: фух, нашел ссылку на создание
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[18:16:23] krivushinme: RaD, ой, пропустил : )
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[18:17:40] krivushinme: я не знаю правильно ли я собираю, но я кладу содержимое в tmp/usr/share/pyshared/, и прогоняю dh_pysupport
[18:18:28] krivushinme: он потом при установке симлинки проставит в /usr/lib/pythonX.X
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[18:19:08] krivushinme: и можно прописать с какими версиями питона работает
[18:19:19] krivushinme: он только в нужные залинкует
[18:19:29] krivushinme: то есть в 3.1 не будет линковать : )
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В кожанном плаще - мертвый анархист.
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В кожанном плаще - мертвый анархист.
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[18:44:35] RaD: krivushinme: а репозиторий свой делаешь?
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[19:11:02] gigimon: http://perthon.sourceforge.net/
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[19:13:13] krivushinme: RaD, я это делаю для проекта рабочего
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[19:14:01] krivushinme: на хабре torkve писал
[19:14:40] krivushinme: я его заюзал, даже в debian/rules вставил : ) он у меня теперь по fakeroot debian/rules rep собирает на deploy сервере
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[19:48:58] krivushinme: нет, мы web проект ваяем
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[19:49:28] Муркт: [22:57] Муркт> apache 1.3.37
[22:57] XIT> угу
[22:57] > Optik has left the chatroom
[22:57] Муркт> свой сервер?
[22:57] XIT> нет хостинг
[22:58] Муркт> суровый.
[22:58] Муркт> (еси чё - я с этим вопросом помочь не смогу, тока позубоскалить)
[22:59] XIT> Муркт, тогда попозже) немного. Целый день пытаюсь понять...
[22:59] XIT> заковырял уже всё(
[22:59] RaD> хз,я пользуюсь wsgi
Fri 8 Jan 2010 23:00
[23:00] > pzskc383 enters the room (participant, member)
[23:00] XIT> а что даёт эта прослойка? wscgi,fcgi?
[23:00] xa4a_> XIT: 404 джанга пишет?
[23:00] XIT> пишет
[23:00] xa4a_> ну так э
[23:00] RaD> а на корень ты видать ничего не повесил, раз тебе 404 приходит
[23:00] xa4a_> ты не зада обработчик на /
[23:00] xa4a_> в urls.py
[23:01] XIT> xa4a_ ок, а зачем тогда mysite.fcgi?
[23:02] xa4a_> чтобы апачу было куда запросы отдавать
[23:03] RaD> типа единый вход
[23:04] RaD> main() понимаешь:)
[23:05] XIT> типа того)
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[23:06] XIT> ладно, спасибо, переварим
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[2010-01-09 17:04] gigimon> nmk а обращаться потом как? по имени или индексу?
[2010-01-09 17:04] nmk> да как обычно
[2010-01-09 17:04] nmk> ну в смысле как у тебя и было
[2010-01-09 17:04] nmk> только цикл замени
[2010-01-09 17:04] gigimon> ок,спс
[2010-01-09 17:04] gigimon> щас поглубже прочитаю
[2010-01-09 17:05] nmk> но про for in прочитай. просто если у тебя класс массива
будет добит какими-нибудь методами,то они у тебя вылезут в for in. а вообще в
твоем примере надо было только написать a[b[c]] = 5
[2010-01-09 17:06] gigimon> а
[2010-01-09 17:07] gigimon> nmk спасибо
[2010-01-09 17:09] lpkir> Всем добрый вечер.Вопрос такой: можно ли включить
поддержку Flash плеера в PyWebKit. Если да, то как это сделать
[2010-01-09 17:40] krivushinme> а что, на gihub-е больше пяти репо нельзя иметь?
[2010-01-09 17:41] RaD> камрады, подкиньте инфу как правильно собрать пакет с
питонским приложением под свежий дебиан?
[2010-01-09 17:41] krivushinme> фух, нашел ссылку на создание
Sat 9 Jan 2010 18:00
[2010-01-09 18:16] krivushinme> RaD, ой, пропустил : )
[2010-01-09 18:17] krivushinme> я не знаю правильно ли я собираю, но я кладу
содержимое в tmp/usr/share/pyshared/, и прогоняю dh_pysupport
[2010-01-09 18:18] krivushinme> он потом при установке симлинки проставит в
/usr/lib/pythonX.X
[2010-01-09 18:18] krivushinme> типа кошерный путь
[2010-01-09 18:19] krivushinme> и можно прописать с какими версиями питона
работает
[2010-01-09 18:19] krivushinme> он только в нужные залинкует
[2010-01-09 18:19] krivushinme> то есть в 3.1 не будет линковать : )
[18:34] > Subject: Python.SU | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь
поищи на google.com | За голосом - в приват к модераторам | Код постить в
dumpz.org | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи:
http://➡.ws/pu | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Третий тупой
вопрос за сутки — на http://throwcatch.me | Ещё рано использовать py3k
xa4a установил(а) тему: Python.SU | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org |
Теперь поищи на google.com | За голосом - в приват к модераторам | Код постить в
dumpz.org | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи:
http://➡.ws/pu | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Третий тупой
вопрос за сутки — на http://throwcatch.me | Ещё рано использовать py3k
[18:44] RaD> krivushinme: а репозиторий свой делаешь?
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[19:10] gigimon> http://perthon.sourceforge.net/
[19:13] krivushinme> RaD, я это делаю для проекта рабочего
[19:13] krivushinme> RaD, reprepro
[19:13] krivushinme> на хабре torkve писал
[19:14] krivushinme> я его заюзал, даже в debian/rules вставил : ) он у меня
теперь по fakeroot debian/rules rep собирает на deploy сервере
[19:16] RaD> эээ, скрипт показать можешь?
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[19:17] RaD> хм, на pyqt пишете?
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[19:49:29] krivushinme: а какой скрипт надо показать? так то обычный debian/rules
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[19:49:53] krivushinme: Муркт, оастонел? : )
[19:50:10] Муркт: бляяя
[19:50:22] Муркт: хоткей левый сработал
[19:50:23] Муркт: :(((
[19:50:25] Муркт: сорри всем адское :)
[19:50:37] Optik: да ничего
[19:50:40] Optik: потом припомним
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[20:02:45] erraen is now online
[20:03:47] ts33kr is now xa
[20:03:48] RaD is now online
[20:04:00] qsteamk is now away
[20:04:02] cybergrind is now away
[20:07:46] erraen is now online
[20:08:15] ts33kr is now Среди ублюдков шел артист,
В кожанном плаще - мертвый анархист.
[20:08:17] ts33kr is now Среди ублюдков шел артист,
В кожанном плаще - мертвый анархист.
[20:08:47] ts33kr is now Среди ублюдков шел артист,
В кожанном плаще - мертвый анархист.
[20:08:48] RaD is now online
[20:08:57] RaD: /me мучительно рожает решение по добавлению аренды в расписание, для этого надо обеспечить возможность регистрации арендатора, затем поиск зарегистрированных арендаторов, а уж потом и регистрацию собственно аренды и только после этого - работу с расписанием... эх
[20:09:01] cybergrind is now away
[20:10:00] qsteamk is now online
[20:10:54] lievil is now away
[20:11:59] огыешсук is now offline
[20:12:47] erraen is now online
[20:12:50] огыешсук is now online
[20:13:04] Rush (Tonop) Online is now online
[20:13:05] Rush (Tonop) Online is now offline
[20:13:11] trurl is now online
[20:13:48] ts33kr is now Среди ублюдков шел артист,
В кожанном плаще - мертвый анархист.
[20:13:49] RaD is now online
[20:14:02] cybergrind is now away
[20:16:34] lievil is now online
[20:16:54] Portnov is now away
[20:16:56] Portnov is now away
[20:17:47] erraen is now online
[20:18:05] nuclearworm is now away
[20:18:48] ts33kr is now Среди ублюдков шел артист,
В кожанном плаще - мертвый анархист.
[20:18:49] RaD is now online
[20:19:03] cybergrind is now away
[20:19:05] Хрюндель is now online
[20:22:10] nuclearworm is now offline
[20:22:48] erraen is now online
[20:23:48] ts33kr is now Среди ублюдков шел артист,
В кожанном плаще - мертвый анархист.
[20:23:49] RaD is now online
[20:23:51] Portnov is now away
[20:23:53] Portnov is now online
[20:23:55] nuclearworm is now online
[20:24:04] cybergrind is now away
[20:26:06] dmitro_aspir is now online
[20:27:49] erraen is now online
[20:28:47] dmitro_aspir is now offline
[20:28:48] ts33kr is now Среди ублюдков шел артист,
В кожанном плаще - мертвый анархист.
[20:28:50] RaD is now online
[20:29:04] cybergrind is now away
[20:31:09] albb is now offline
[20:31:11] albb is now xa
[20:31:12] albb is now xa
[20:31:49] ts33kr is now away
[20:31:51] ts33kr is now away
[20:32:18] RaD: как "обязательный" на инглише (туплю), в контексте "поля обязательны для заполнения"
[20:32:49] erraen is now online
[20:33:02] piranha: required
[20:33:49] ts33kr is now away
[20:33:50] RaD is now online
[20:34:04] cybergrind is now away
[20:35:01] denz is now away
[20:37:49] erraen is now online
[20:38:06] Лорд Ляпатяпа is now offline
[20:38:49] ts33kr is now away
[20:38:51] RaD is now online
[20:39:04] cybergrind is now away
[20:40:37] Portnov is now away
[20:40:39] Portnov is now away
[20:41:50] ts33kr is now xa
[20:41:51] ts33kr is now xa
[20:42:14] pzskc383 is now away
[20:42:50] erraen is now online
[20:43:42] Spo1ler is now online
[20:43:49] ts33kr is now xa
[20:43:52] RaD is now online
[20:44:05] cybergrind is now away
[20:44:23] Spo1ler is now online
[20:45:01] denz is now xa
[20:47:50] erraen is now online
[20:48:50] ts33kr is now xa
[20:48:52] RaD is now online
[20:49:06] cybergrind is now away
[20:50:20] RaD: о!
[20:50:37] RaD: я ж помню, что-то простое должно быть
[20:50:38] piranha is now away
[20:51:09] denz is now online
[20:51:26] lievil is now away
[20:52:14] pzskc383 is now xa
[20:52:36] Хрюндель is now away
[20:52:50] erraen is now online
[20:53:50] ts33kr is now xa
[20:53:53] RaD is now online
[20:54:06] cybergrind is now away
[20:56:03] nuclearworm is now away
[20:56:40] denz is now away
[20:57:12] pzskc383 is now online
[20:57:50] erraen is now online
[20:58:51] ts33kr is now xa
[20:58:53] cheshirecat is now away
[20:58:54] RaD is now online
[20:58:56] cheshirecat is now away
[20:59:07] cybergrind is now away
[20:59:28] denz is now online
[21:00:53] piranha is now Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication
[21:01:12] Хрюндель is now online
[21:01:26] lievil is now xa
[21:02:49] albb is now offline
[21:02:50] albb is now xa
[21:02:51] erraen is now online
[21:02:53] albb is now xa
[21:03:52] ts33kr is now xa
[21:03:54] RaD is now online
[21:04:07] cybergrind is now away
[21:04:23] Хрюндель is now offline
[21:07:43] Portnov is now away
[21:07:44] Portnov is now online
[21:07:51] erraen is now online
[21:08:52] ts33kr is now xa
[21:08:54] RaD is now online
[21:09:07] cybergrind is now away
[21:12:30] trurl is now away
[21:12:38] cheshirecat is now away
[21:12:40] cheshirecat is now online
[21:12:52] erraen is now online
[21:13:53] ts33kr is now xa
[21:13:55] RaD is now online
[21:14:08] cybergrind is now away
[21:14:20] lievil is now online
[21:17:52] erraen is now online
[21:18:53] ts33kr is now xa
[21:18:55] RaD is now online
[21:19:09] cybergrind is now away
[21:20:30] cheshirecat is now away
[21:20:32] cheshirecat is now away
[21:20:53] nuclearworm is now xa
[21:21:42] cheshirecat is now away
[21:21:44] cheshirecat is now online
[21:21:47] trurl is now online
[21:22:52] erraen is now online
[21:23:54] ts33kr is now xa
[21:23:56] RaD is now online
[21:24:10] cybergrind is now away
[21:24:17] RaD is now away
[21:24:18] RaD is now away
[21:24:29] qsteamk is now offline
[21:25:14] qsteamk is now online
[21:26:18] RaD is now online
[21:26:19] RaD is now online
[21:27:53] erraen is now online
[21:27:56] denz is now away
[21:28:54] ts33kr is now xa
[21:28:57] RaD is now online
[21:29:10] cybergrind is now away
[21:32:20] denz is now online
[21:32:22] denz is now offline
[21:32:34] denz is now online
[21:32:54] erraen is now online
[21:33:55] ts33kr is now xa
[21:33:57] RaD is now online
[21:34:10] cybergrind is now away
[21:34:55] cheshirecat is now offline
[21:36:27] jolits is now away
[21:37:54] erraen is now online
[21:38:55] ts33kr is now xa
[21:38:57] RaD is now online
[21:39:11] cybergrind is now away
[21:42:55] erraen is now online
[21:43:23] Portnov is now away
[21:43:23] огыешсук is now offline
[21:43:25] Portnov is now away
[21:43:55] ts33kr is now xa
[21:43:58] RaD is now online
[21:43:59] Optik is now away
[21:44:01] Portnov is now away
[21:44:03] Portnov is now online
[21:44:07] denz is now away
[21:44:11] cybergrind is now away
[21:46:11] nuclearworm is now online
[21:47:02] Portnov is now away
[21:47:04] Portnov is now away
[21:47:56] erraen is now online
[21:48:21] Typhon is now away
[21:48:32] Portnov is now away
[21:48:33] Portnov is now online
[21:48:55] ts33kr is now xa
[21:48:58] RaD is now online
[21:49:12] cybergrind is now away
[21:49:33] Optik is now Доступен
[21:49:37] Typhon is now online
[21:51:34] Portnov is now away
[21:51:36] Portnov is now away
[21:51:52] Portnov is now away
[21:51:54] Portnov is now online
[21:52:56] erraen is now online
[21:53:57] ts33kr is now xa
[21:53:59] RaD is now online
[21:54:07] denz is now xa
[21:54:12] cybergrind is now away
[21:54:58] Portnov is now away
[21:55:00] Portnov is now away
[21:57:01] Portnov is now away
[21:57:03] Portnov is now online
[21:57:57] erraen is now online
[21:58:00] lievil is now away
[21:58:57] ts33kr is now xa
[21:58:59] RaD is now online
[21:59:12] cybergrind is now away
[22:00:02] Portnov is now away
[22:00:03] Portnov is now away
[22:00:23] piranha is now offline
[22:02:01] Portnov is now away
[22:02:02] Portnov is now online
[22:02:58] erraen is now online
[22:03:57] ts33kr is now xa
[22:04:00] RaD is now online
[22:04:13] cybergrind is now away
[22:05:11] Portnov is now away
[22:05:12] Portnov is now away
[22:06:19] Portnov is now away
[22:06:21] Portnov is now online
[22:07:36] piranha is now Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication
[22:07:59] erraen is now online
[22:08:00] lievil is now xa
[22:08:11] RaD is now online
[22:08:29] RaD is now online
[22:08:31] RaD is now online
[22:08:58] ts33kr is now xa
[22:09:01] RaD is now online
[22:09:14] cybergrind is now away
[22:11:37] jolits is now offline
[22:11:46] lievil is now online
[22:12:59] erraen is now online
[22:13:58] ts33kr is now xa
[22:14:03] RaD is now online
[22:14:15] cybergrind is now away
[22:15:05] piranha is now offline
[22:16:05] piranha is now Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication
[22:16:18] Portnov is now away
[22:16:19] Portnov is now away
[22:16:59] deepwalker is now offline
[22:17:12] Portnov is now away
[22:17:13] Portnov is now online
[22:18:00] erraen is now online
[22:18:59] ts33kr is now xa
[22:19:04] RaD is now online
[22:19:16] cybergrind is now away
[22:22:01] piranha is now offline
[22:23:00] erraen is now online
[22:23:18] nuclearworm is now away
[22:24:00] ts33kr is now xa
[22:24:04] RaD is now online
[22:24:16] cybergrind is now away
[22:25:48] qsteamk is now away
[22:26:48] qsteamk is now online
[22:26:49] piranha is now Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication
[22:27:53] Portnov is now away
[22:27:54] Portnov is now away
[22:28:00] erraen is now online
[22:29:01] ts33kr is now xa
[22:29:04] RaD is now online
[22:29:17] cybergrind is now away
[22:29:23] Portnov is now away
[22:29:24] Portnov is now online
[22:32:40] nuclearworm is now online
[22:33:00] erraen is now online
[22:34:01] ts33kr is now xa
[22:34:05] RaD is now online
[22:34:17] cybergrind is now away
[22:34:34] Portnov is now away
[22:34:35] Portnov is now away
[22:35:46] Typhon is now offline
[22:35:47] olgZZZ is now online
[22:36:34] Portnov is now away
[22:36:35] Portnov is now online
[22:37:08] qsteamk is now away
[22:38:01] erraen is now online
[22:39:02] ts33kr is now xa
[22:39:06] RaD is now online
[22:39:18] cybergrind is now away
[22:39:36] Portnov is now away
[22:39:37] Portnov is now away
[22:40:24] piranha is now offline
[22:41:14] piranha is now Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication
[22:41:39] Portnov is now away
[22:41:40] Portnov is now online
[22:43:02] erraen is now online
[22:44:02] ts33kr is now xa
[22:44:04] pzskc383 is now away
[22:44:06] RaD is now online
[22:44:18] cybergrind is now away
[22:45:18] lievil is now away
[22:45:28] Portnov is now away
[22:45:29] Portnov is now away
[22:45:44] lievil is now online
[22:45:52] pzskc383 is now online
[22:47:08] qsteamk is now xa
[22:47:31] Portnov is now away
[22:47:32] Portnov is now online
[22:48:02] erraen is now online
[22:49:03] ts33kr is now xa
[22:49:07] RaD is now online
[22:49:19] cybergrind is now away
[22:50:33] Portnov is now away
[22:50:34] Portnov is now away
[22:50:53] piranha is now offline
[22:53:02] erraen is now online
[22:54:03] ts33kr is now xa
[22:54:07] RaD is now online
[22:54:19] cybergrind is now away
[22:56:20] piranha is now Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication
[22:56:29] klichuk is now online
[22:58:03] erraen is now online
[22:59:04] ts33kr is now xa
[22:59:08] RaD is now online
[22:59:19] cybergrind is now away
[22:59:32] expee is now online
[22:59:33] expee is now online
[22:59:35] pzskc383 is now away
[22:59:52] qsteamk is now online
[23:00:37] expee is now offline
[23:03:03] erraen is now online
[23:04:04] ts33kr is now xa
[23:04:09] RaD is now online
[23:04:20] cybergrind is now away
[23:04:52] qsteamk is now away
[23:06:57] Portnov is now away
[23:06:58] Portnov is now online
[23:07:58] SV0L0CH is now online
[23:08:03] erraen is now online
[23:09:05] ts33kr is now xa
[23:09:10] RaD is now online
[23:09:21] cybergrind is now away
[23:09:33] pzskc383 is now xa
[23:09:58] RaD is now online
[23:11:38] lievil is now away
[23:12:46] Portnov is now away
[23:12:47] Portnov is now away
[23:13:04] erraen is now online
[23:13:31] Portnov is now away
[23:13:32] Portnov is now online
[23:14:05] ts33kr is now xa
[23:14:10] RaD is now online
[23:14:22] cybergrind is now away
[23:14:52] qsteamk is now xa
[23:18:04] erraen is now online
[23:19:05] ts33kr is now xa
[23:19:11] RaD is now online
[23:19:22] cybergrind is now away
[23:20:22] lievil is now online
[23:20:26] Большой Лис is now online
[23:20:44] piranha is now offline
[23:21:36] piranha is now Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication
[23:23:05] erraen is now online
[23:23:44] xa4a_: а ведь если я в джанго-форму в initial передаю словарь с заполненным полем, а в data - пустой словарь, то поле должно быть заполненым?
[23:24:05] ts33kr is now xa
[23:24:11] Portnov is now away
[23:24:12] Portnov is now away
[23:24:14] RaD is now online
[23:24:24] cybergrind is now away
[23:26:11] Portnov is now away
[23:26:12] Portnov is now online
[23:28:05] erraen is now online
[23:28:18] piranha: xa4a_: в дата - None, тогда будет заполненым
[23:29:06] ts33kr is now xa
[23:29:12] RaD is now online
[23:29:13] Portnov is now away
[23:29:15] Portnov is now away
[23:29:24] cybergrind is now away
[23:31:19] Portnov is now away
[23:31:20] Portnov is now online
[23:31:32] xa4a_: piranha: точно. спасибо
[23:32:31] cybergrind is now глупница
[23:32:32] cybergrind is now глупница
[23:33:05] erraen is now online
[23:34:07] ts33kr is now xa
[23:34:13] RaD is now online
[23:34:24] cybergrind is now глупница
[23:36:14] albb is now offline
[23:36:16] albb is now xa
[23:36:17] albb is now xa
[23:36:42] Portnov is now away
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[23:38:01] cybergrind is now away
[23:38:02] cybergrind is now away
[23:38:06] erraen is now online
[23:38:45] Portnov is now away
[23:38:46] Portnov is now online
[23:39:07] ts33kr is now xa
[23:39:13] RaD is now online
[23:39:25] cybergrind is now away
[23:39:39] piranha is now offline
[23:41:47] Portnov is now online
[23:43:07] erraen is now online
[23:44:08] ts33kr is now xa
[23:44:14] RaD is now online
[23:44:25] cybergrind is now away
[23:48:07] erraen is now online
[23:49:02] Portnov is now away
[23:49:06] Portnov is now online
[23:49:09] ts33kr is now xa
[23:49:14] RaD is now online
[23:49:25] cybergrind is now away
[23:50:23] qsteamk is now online
[23:53:07] erraen is now online
[23:54:10] ts33kr is now xa
[23:54:15] RaD is now online
[23:54:26] cybergrind is now away
[23:58:08] erraen is now online
[23:59:10] ts33kr is now xa
[23:59:15] RaD is now online
[23:59:26] cybergrind is now away