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[12:44:58] : xa4a установил(а) тему: Python.SU | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи на google.com | За голосом - в приват к модераторам | Код постить в dumpz.org | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://➡.ws/pu | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Третий тупой вопрос за сутки — на http://throwcatch.me | Ещё рано использовать py3k
[12:45:17] Мозгошредер: Ррр, розетка выпилила представительство в Луганске.
[12:45:19] deepwalker: xa4a, может лучше архивчиком, а? : )
[12:46:08] xa4a_: deepwalker: http://xa4a.org.ua/vim/vim.tar.gz
[12:46:21] nmk: прав дай ;)
[12:47:11] nmk: о. пошло :)
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[12:47:23] xa4a_: дал)
[12:48:14] deepwalker: xa4a, big tnx! буду разбираться, как я еще могу себе улучшить жизнь : ) я посмотрел netbins тут недавно, но чего то не впечатлился
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[12:48:36] nmk: потому что нетбинс, точнее плагин там для питона, говно :)
[12:48:51] nmk: как и в идее
[12:48:56] deepwalker: ну я просто искал чего-нибудь, чтбоы попроще код готовый разобрать
[12:49:00] deepwalker: от предыдущего прогера
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[12:49:23] deepwalker: ну видимо и правда не слишком хорошая весчь
[12:49:50] xa4a_: colorscheme у меня, если чо, - под konsole заточен)
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[12:50:07] deepwalker: ну значит yakuake скушает хорошо : )
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[12:56:45] tilarids: кто-нибудь здесь пользуется емаксом под макосью?
[12:57:07] piranha: 1
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[12:57:46] tilarids: piranha: ты пользуешься?
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[12:58:34] piranha: tilarids: угу, шо ж остаëтся делать?
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[12:58:57] tilarids: piranha: конфиг тот же, что у тебя в меркуриале лежит?
[12:59:36] piranha: tilarids: ну сейчас есть изменения незакоммиченые, но они недавние и в принципе никак не мешают
[12:59:38] piranha: так что да, тот же
[12:59:47] tilarids: piranha: скажи мне только, у тебя кнопки backspace и delete выполняют нормальные функции? И если да, то откуда ты брал емакс?
[13:01:18] piranha: ну у меня ж ноут, у меня только одна кнопка, на ней написано delete, но это бекспейс (а как делит работает когда жмëшь еë с Fn)
[13:01:26] piranha: компилил сам, качал скомпиленый
[13:01:29] tilarids: piranha: фак :)
[13:01:31] piranha: из разных мест, но всегда всë ок
[13:01:50] deepwalker is now away
[13:01:51] piranha: на тему Delete - это эпл так обзывает бекспейс… И она на верном месте
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[13:02:09] piranha: в смысле находится там, где бекспейс. Хотя если кто читает надписи на кнопках, срывает крышу, конечно ;)
[13:02:18] piranha: бекспейс не находят. Хотя казалось бы - чо читаешь, жми и всë %)
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[13:02:38] tilarids: тогда ты мне не подходишь :) У меня есть и backspace, и del, но емакс считает, что это одна и та же кнопка
[13:02:50] tilarids: и не желает ничего на нее биндить почему-то
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[13:03:47] tilarids: а по поводу компиляемости - ты из портов компилял или просто так? У меня из портов мета-кей не работает
[13:03:47] piranha: мдямс
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[13:03:52] piranha: не, я просто так компилял
[13:04:00] tilarids: хм, попробую
[13:04:09] piranha: ./configure —with-ns, make, make install, cp -a nextstep/Emacs.app /Applications
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[13:16:35] tilarids: piranha: а какую версию ты юзаешь?
[13:17:00] piranha: GNU Emacs 23.1.50.1 (i386-apple-darwin10.0.0, NS apple-appkit-1038.11) of 2009-10-21 on gto.local
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[13:17:37] tilarids: это из cvs?
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[13:18:54] piranha: угу
[13:19:13] piranha: ну видишь, давно пора перекомпилить, но что-то последний раз не собралось, а думать было лень ;)
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[13:20:21] tilarids: вот и у меня не собралось ,)
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[13:20:40] piranha: :))))
[13:20:43] piranha: афк
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[13:21:35] expee: привет всем. ктонибудь пробовал в py3 cgi-скрипты делать?
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[13:22:36] expee: делаю в втором питоне - нормально получается с юникод-строками работать
[13:22:42] expee: в 3 что-то никак
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[13:22:57] expee: вроде должно работать, а увы :)
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[13:23:42] mishok13: больше конкретики
[13:24:54] expee: да собственно что сказать - тема на форуме была такая, заинтересовало. добавляю заголовок, пытаюсь вывести что-то: print('Привет')
[13:25:03] expee: собственно ничего и не печатается
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[13:25:35] expee: с английским текстом нормально.
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[13:26:06] xa4a_: совсем ничего?
[13:26:11] deepwalker: expee, без ошибок?
[13:26:16] expee: совсем ничего
[13:26:22] deepwalker: а куда печатаешь?
[13:26:25] expee: в лог ничего не пишется вообще
[13:26:27] deepwalker: уинда?
[13:26:31] deepwalker: ааа
[13:26:45] deepwalker: винда?
[13:26:52] expee: http://pastecode.ru/5dee/
[13:26:55] expee: нет)
[13:27:08] deepwalker: а почему тогда просто вывод не помотреть?
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[13:27:26] deepwalker: то есть до запуска из под апача
[13:27:41] expee: всмысле просто через консоль пустить?
[13:27:50] expee: все нормально тогда)
[13:27:50] deepwalker: ну да
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[13:28:01] expee: все печатает русский норм
[13:28:02] deepwalker: ага, значит в окружении апача где то косяк
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[13:28:17] deepwalker: а в error.log?
[13:28:21] deepwalker: ничего не пишет?
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[13:28:37] deepwalker: обычно по-моему туда трейсы все таки валятся
[13:28:40] expee: вообще ничего
[13:28:49] deepwalker: хотя я cgi конечно никогда не зпаускал : )
[13:29:08] deepwalker: тогда попробуй запустить из под юзера апачевского
[13:29:21] expee: почему-то на py2 с юникодными строками работает
[13:29:26] expee: а тут нет
[13:29:30] deepwalker: не, все таки ошибка кула то должна ложиться
[13:29:34] xa4a_: expee: у тебя какая кодировка файла?
[13:29:43] expee: utf-8
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[13:33:17] expee: в конфиге апача стоит AddDefaultCharset UTF-8
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[13:35:06] xa4a_: попробуй задампи os.environ из апача и из консоли. сравни
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[13:40:30] k-dus: есть у кого нить книга пирогова "ассемблер на примерах"?
[13:40:49] k-dus: блин, не туда
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[13:41:37] expee: ))
[13:41:55] expee: у меня есть если нужно гляну
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[13:42:04] k-dus: о )
[13:42:07] k-dus: да нужно )
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[13:42:39] k-dus: только именно пирогова надо, есть еще какого автора
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[13:43:15] expee: такая? https://www.ozon.ru/context/detail/id/2446338/
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[13:43:41] k-dus: она самая
[13:43:46] expee: секунду
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[13:46:11] expee: не нашел :(
[13:46:28] expee: это марек был)
[13:46:45] k-dus: ну нет так нет, я уже весь инет облазил
[13:46:57] k-dus: придется купить видимо, не сильно дорого единственное с доставкой парится )
[13:47:02] expee: а зачем именно она то?)
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[13:47:16] k-dus: на толковую похожа
[13:47:18] k-dus: по содержанию
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[13:47:23] k-dus: да и люди рекомендовали
[13:47:47] expee: я читал ирвина и магду)
[13:47:59] k-dus: ну я как раз ирвина читаю
[13:48:09] k-dus: а у магды что за книжка?
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[13:48:47] expee: http://www.books.ru/shop/books/661503
[13:48:49] expee: вот такая
[13:49:48] expee: только по частям читал, т.к. не первая книга
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[13:50:23] k-dus: этот сразу нашел для скачки
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[13:51:06] k-dus: прикольнуло у ирвина, он там пень 4 называет суперсовременным что ли )
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[13:51:54] expee: время то идет)
[13:52:00] expee: какого года книга
[13:52:01] expee: ?
[13:52:20] k-dus: 5-го
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[13:52:38] k-dus: главное суть та же
[13:53:11] wonderfulll is now xa
[13:53:15] wonderfulll is now online
[13:53:16] wonderfulll is now online
[13:53:21] expee: какая разница то - все интелы обратно совместимы до x86)
[13:53:31] expee: 8086*
[13:53:34] erraen is now online
[13:53:46] k-dus: )
[13:53:49] expee: ну на 32-битном до 80386)
[13:53:51] k-dus: а ты для чего асм изучал?
[13:54:08] expee: хз)
[13:54:35] expee: так просто
[13:54:44] k-dus: не юзаешь никак?
[13:55:07] expee: го в пм а то канал по питону))
[13:55:14] expee is now online
[13:55:44] mishok13 is now xa
[13:56:22] cybergrind is now away
[13:56:23] cybergrind is now глупница
[13:57:07] lievil is now xa
[13:57:11] lievil is now online
[13:57:23] cybergrind is now глупница
[13:58:11] wonderfulll is now online
[13:58:35] erraen is now online
[13:58:39] wonderfulll is now away
[13:58:40] wonderfulll is now away
[13:59:59] PC is now away
[14:00:14] expee is now online
[14:01:22] cybergrind is now away
[14:01:23] cybergrind is now away
[14:02:23] cybergrind is now away
[14:03:11] wonderfulll is now away
[14:03:36] erraen is now online
[14:05:14] expee is now online
[14:05:20] Typhon is now offline
[14:06:22] cybergrind is now глупница
[14:06:23] cybergrind is now глупница
[14:07:23] cybergrind is now глупница
[14:08:11] wonderfulll is now away
[14:08:11] Муркт is now away
[14:08:15] Муркт is now online
[14:08:23] sivakvale is now А вот и я!
[14:08:35] erraen is now online
[14:08:55] sivakvale is now offline
[14:09:59] PC is now xa
[14:10:14] expee is now online
[14:11:12] cutwater is now online
[14:12:23] cybergrind is now глупница
[14:13:11] wonderfulll is now away
[14:13:36] erraen is now online
[14:13:52] лорд Морфий is now away
[14:14:16] nuclearworm is now away
[14:14:23] cybergrind is now away
[14:14:24] cybergrind is now away
[14:15:22] expee is now online
[14:16:29] PC is now online
[14:16:39] nuclearworm is now online
[14:17:23] cybergrind is now away
[14:17:24] denz is now online
[14:17:42] gigimon is now offline
[14:18:11] wonderfulll is now away
[14:18:35] erraen is now online
[14:18:42] piranha is now Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication
[14:18:55] wonderfulll is now online
[14:18:55] wonderfulll is now online
[14:19:17] cybergrind is now away
[14:19:18] cybergrind is now глупница
[14:20:10] лорд Морфий is now online
[14:20:13] expee is now online
[14:20:37] Typhon is now xa
[14:22:23] cybergrind is now глупница
[14:23:10] wonderfulll is now online
[14:23:36] erraen is now online
[14:25:14] expee is now online
[14:25:38] wonderfulll is now away
[14:25:39] wonderfulll is now away
[14:25:49] cybergrind is now away
[14:25:50] cybergrind is now away
[14:26:34] poltergeist is now away
[14:27:24] cybergrind is now away
[14:28:10] wonderfulll is now away
[14:28:36] erraen is now online
[14:29:14] poltergeist is now online
[14:30:14] expee is now online
[14:30:51] лорд Морфий is now away
[14:31:06] cybergrind is now глупница
[14:31:07] cybergrind is now глупница
[14:32:24] PC is now away
[14:32:24] cybergrind is now глупница
[14:33:11] wonderfulll is now away
[14:33:36] erraen is now online
[14:34:30] Portnov is now away
[14:34:31] Portnov is now online
[14:34:45] wonderfulll is now online
[14:34:46] wonderfulll is now online
[14:35:14] expee is now online
[14:35:41] piranha is now away
[14:36:07] cybergrind is now away
[14:36:08] cybergrind is now away
[14:36:12] лорд Морфий is now online
[14:36:43] nuclearworm is now away
[14:36:55] PC is now online
[14:37:24] cybergrind is now away
[14:38:05] Typhon is now online
[14:38:11] wonderfulll is now online
[14:38:36] erraen is now online
[14:38:49] Portnov is now away
[14:38:51] Portnov is now away
[14:39:04] Portnov is now away
[14:39:06] Portnov is now online
[14:39:33] dmeshr is now Прямо сейчас меня здесь нет
[14:39:34] dmeshr is now Прямо сейчас меня здесь нет
[14:40:14] expee is now online
[14:41:07] cybergrind is now away
[14:41:10] cybergrind is now глупница
[14:41:12] dmeshr: ку
[14:41:26] alkaon is now Доступен
[14:41:47] dmeshr: подскажите плз по джанге. как сделать условие if changed у определенных полей модели в методе save
[14:42:25] cybergrind is now глупница
[14:42:50] alkaon is now offline
[14:43:11] wonderfulll is now online
[14:43:36] erraen is now online
[14:43:56] dmeshr is now Прямо сейчас меня здесь нет
[14:44:25] MAVr is now Да, я тут
[14:45:15] expee is now online
[14:45:47] slav0nic: def save(..):
...get(pk=self.pk)
<сравнение полей>
[14:45:52] cutwater is now away
[14:46:09] cybergrind is now глупница
[14:46:10] cybergrind is now away
[14:47:15] slav0nic: ферштеин?
[14:47:25] cybergrind is now away
[14:48:11] wonderfulll is now online
[14:48:37] erraen is now online
[14:48:57] dmeshr is now Прямо сейчас меня здесь нет
[14:49:14] dmeshr: if field_before != self.field?
[14:50:15] expee is now online
[14:50:29] xa4a_: да
[14:50:36] slav0nic: типа
[14:50:51] xa4a_: это если не хочется лезть в исходник, проверять, не следит ли она сама за тем, какие поля поменялись
[14:50:52] cutwater is now xa
[14:50:56] slav0nic: ты получаешь по пк объект который сейчас в базе, а в севе у тебя есть новое
[14:51:01] xa4a_: алхимия, вроде, следит
[14:51:05] slav0nic: не следит
[14:51:09] cybergrind is now глупница
[14:51:10] cybergrind is now глупница
[14:51:23] slav0nic: а лишь нужные
[14:51:23] slav0nic: так бы орм не тупо все поля апдейтил)
[14:51:35] nuclearworm is now xa
[14:51:42] xa4a_: /me просто помечтал :)
[14:51:55] dmeshr: понятно, жалко что нет другого способа
[14:52:00] dmeshr: пасибо
[14:52:04] slav0nic: да нормальный способ
[14:52:25] cybergrind is now глупница
[14:52:30] slav0nic: или ты ещё один разработчик меганагруженных систем ?)
[14:52:33] deepwalker is now away
[14:53:12] wonderfulll is now online
[14:53:27] deepwalker is now online
[14:53:38] erraen is now online
[14:53:57] dmeshr is now Прямо сейчас меня здесь нет
[14:55:03] лорд Морфий is now away
[14:55:15] expee is now online
[14:56:10] cybergrind is now away
[14:56:11] cybergrind is now away
[14:57:25] cybergrind is now away
[14:57:36] MAVr is now away
[14:57:38] MAVr is now away
[14:58:16] wonderfulll is now online
[14:58:38] erraen is now online
[14:58:58] dmeshr is now Прямо сейчас меня здесь нет
[14:59:22] expee is now offline
[14:59:36] MAVr is now xa
[14:59:38] MAVr is now xa
[15:00:09] nuclearworm is now online
[15:01:13] cybergrind is now away
[15:01:14] cybergrind is now глупница
[15:01:25] Portnov is now away
[15:01:27] Portnov is now away
[15:02:25] cybergrind is now глупница
[15:03:13] wonderfulll is now online
[15:03:15] лорд Морфий is now online
[15:03:38] erraen is now online
[15:03:58] dmeshr is now Прямо сейчас меня здесь нет
[15:05:21] k-dus: а какой программист не хочет сделать красиво )
[15:05:47] expee is now online
[15:05:47] expee is now online
[15:05:48] Муркт: надо перебарывать в себе такое желание
[15:07:03] k-dus: как нужен результат быстрый то да, но не всегда же надо спешить )
[15:07:09] k-dus: когда* нужен
[15:07:25] cybergrind is now глупница
[15:08:14] wonderfulll is now online
[15:08:39] erraen is now online
[15:08:49] cybergrind is now away
[15:08:50] cybergrind is now away
[15:08:58] dmeshr is now Прямо сейчас меня здесь нет
[15:09:02] cutwater is now online
[15:09:50] Typhon is now offline
[15:10:16] expee is now online
[15:10:49] poltergeist is now away
[15:11:20] Spo1ler is now online
[15:11:38] Spo1ler is now online
[15:12:11] dmeshr is now away
[15:12:12] dmeshr is now away
[15:12:13] Муркт is now offline
[15:12:33] cybergrind is now away
[15:12:33] dmeshr is now Прямо сейчас меня здесь нет
[15:12:54] poltergeist is now online
[15:13:14] wonderfulll is now online
[15:13:39] erraen is now online
[15:13:43] maxp is now away
[15:13:50] cybergrind is now глупница
[15:13:49] cybergrind is now away
[15:13:59] dmeshr is now Прямо сейчас меня здесь нет
[15:15:36] expee is now online
[15:15:40] Portnov is now online
[15:15:39] Portnov is now away
[15:16:33] k-dus is now offline
[15:17:09] wonderfulll is now away
[15:17:10] wonderfulll is now away
[15:17:25] cybergrind is now глупница
[15:18:14] wonderfulll is now away
[15:18:39] erraen is now online
[15:18:43] mishok13 is now online
[15:18:50] cybergrind is now away
[15:18:51] cybergrind is now away
[15:18:59] dmeshr is now Прямо сейчас меня здесь нет
[15:20:11] dmeshr is now away
[15:20:13] dmeshr is now away
[15:20:16] expee is now online
[15:21:35] dmeshr is now away
[15:21:37] dmeshr is now Прямо сейчас меня здесь нет
[15:22:04] dmeshr is now Прямо сейчас меня здесь нет
[15:22:10] dmeshr is now offline
[15:22:25] cybergrind is now away
[15:22:32] cybergrind is now глупница
[15:22:33] cybergrind is now глупница
[15:23:13] wonderfulll is now away
[15:23:26] wonderfulll is now online
[15:23:27] wonderfulll is now online
[15:23:29] lievil is now away
[15:23:40] ts33kr is now online
[15:23:40] erraen is now online
[15:23:41] ts33kr is now online
[15:23:44] ts33kr is now online
[15:23:48] ts33kr is now online
[15:23:57] ts33kr is now online
[15:24:01] ts33kr is now online
[15:24:02] tilarids is now away
[15:25:14] denz is now away
[15:25:16] expee is now online
[15:25:50] maxp is now away
[15:26:44] poltergeist is now away
[15:26:52] ts33kr is now online
[15:27:26] cybergrind is now глупница
[15:27:39] poltergeist is now online
[15:27:54] cybergrind is now away
[15:27:55] cybergrind is now away
[15:28:14] wonderfulll is now online
[15:28:40] erraen is now online
[15:30:17] expee is now online
[15:31:11] Magneto is now away
[15:31:52] ts33kr is now online
[15:32:26] cybergrind is now away
[15:32:42] nuclearworm is now away
[15:32:51] wonderfulll is now away
[15:32:52] wonderfulll is now away
[15:33:14] wonderfulll is now away
[15:33:27] lievil is now xa
[15:33:29] cutwater is now xa
[15:33:31] cutwater is now online
[15:33:41] erraen is now online
[15:34:19] sevenov is now online
[15:35:01] MAVr is now away
[15:35:06] MAVr is now Да, я тут
[15:35:12] denz is now xa
[15:35:17] expee is now online
[15:35:59] dmeshr is now Прямо сейчас меня здесь нет
[15:36:00] dmeshr is now Прямо сейчас меня здесь нет
[15:36:52] ts33kr is now online
[15:36:56] огыешсук is now chat
[15:37:17] nuclearworm is now online
[15:37:26] cybergrind is now away
[15:38:02] dmeshr: а как определить при сохранении объекта модели, происходит инсерт или апдейт?
[15:38:05] dmeshr is now Прямо сейчас меня здесь нет
[15:38:14] wonderfulll is now away
[15:38:21] огыешсук is now offline
[15:38:41] erraen is now online
[15:39:20] Magneto is now offline
[15:40:17] expee is now online
[15:40:54] Большой Лис is now away
[15:41:53] ts33kr is now online
[15:42:26] cybergrind is now away
[15:43:05] dmeshr is now Прямо сейчас меня здесь нет
[15:43:15] wonderfulll is now away
[15:43:42] erraen is now online
[15:44:01] tilarids is now xa
[15:45:18] expee is now online
[15:45:25] Большой Лис is now online
[15:46:54] ts33kr is now online
[15:47:18] лорд Морфий is now away
[15:47:26] cybergrind is now away
[15:48:05] dmeshr is now Прямо сейчас меня здесь нет
[15:48:09] cybergrind is now глупница
[15:48:10] cybergrind is now глупница
[15:48:14] wonderfulll is now away
[15:48:15] denz is now online
[15:48:18] Rush (Tonop) Online is now xa
[15:48:42] erraen is now online
[15:50:19] expee is now online
[15:51:26] wonderfulll is now online
[15:51:27] wonderfulll is now online
[15:51:54] ts33kr is now online
[15:52:27] cybergrind is now глупница
[15:53:05] dmeshr is now Прямо сейчас меня здесь нет
[15:53:14] wonderfulll is now online
[15:53:28] piranha is now Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication
[15:53:32] Большой Лис: dmeshr, по наличию pk
[15:53:42] erraen is now online
[15:54:20] tilarids is now online
[15:54:45] dmeshr: if self.pk:
# update
else:
# new
[15:54:46] dmeshr: ?
[15:55:19] expee is now online
[15:55:28] лорд Морфий is now online
[15:55:40] expee is now offline
[15:56:21] ts33kr is now offline
[15:56:27] wonderfulll is now away
[15:56:28] wonderfulll is now away
[15:56:31] Большой Лис: dmeshr, ага
[15:57:27] cybergrind is now глупница
[15:57:37] deepwalker is now away
[15:57:42] dmeshr: о пасиба
[15:58:05] dmeshr is now Прямо сейчас меня здесь нет
[15:58:15] wonderfulll is now away
[15:58:42] erraen is now online
[16:01:16] dmeshr is now offline
[16:01:45] cybergrind is now away
[16:01:48] cybergrind is now away
[16:02:27] cybergrind is now away
[16:03:14] wonderfulll is now away
[16:03:33] cybergrind is now away
[16:03:34] cybergrind is now глупница
[16:03:35] xa4a_: http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/arwb0/windows_hole_discovered_after_17_years_affects_31/
[16:03:42] erraen is now online
[16:04:28] piranha is now away
[16:05:17] MAVr is now away
[16:05:49] nuclearworm is now away
[16:06:19] lievil is now online
[16:06:41] tilarids: круть
[16:07:17] MAVr is now xa
[16:07:27] cybergrind is now глупница
[16:07:37] deepwalker is now xa
[16:08:14] wonderfulll is now away
[16:08:42] erraen is now online
[16:09:31] plkjm is now online
[16:09:38] plkjm is now offline
[16:10:47] Большой Лис: гг
[16:10:55] Большой Лис: кон-че-ны-е
[16:11:02] MAVr is now Да, я тут
[16:12:01] pzskc383 is now online
[16:12:02] pzskc383 is now online
[16:12:21] Rush (Tonop) Online is now offline
[16:12:27] cybergrind is now глупница
[16:13:15] wonderfulll is now away
[16:13:43] erraen is now online
[16:14:21] cybergrind is now away
[16:14:22] cybergrind is now away
[16:16:03] lievil is now away
[16:16:31] cybergrind is now глупница
[16:16:32] cybergrind is now глупница
[16:16:49] ts33kr is now online
[16:16:50] ts33kr is now online
[16:17:28] cybergrind is now глупница
[16:18:05] maxp is now offline
[16:18:15] wonderfulll is now away
[16:18:43] erraen is now online
[16:20:41] nuclearworm is now xa
[16:21:33] cybergrind is now глупница
[16:21:34] cybergrind is now глупница
[16:21:41] ts33kr is now online
[16:22:28] cybergrind is now глупница
[16:23:15] wonderfulll is now away
[16:23:20] mishok13 is now away
[16:23:30] лорд Морфий is now away
[16:23:43] erraen is now online
[16:25:31] Spo1ler is now away
[16:26:02] MAVr is now away
[16:26:03] lievil is now xa
[16:26:18] mishok13 is now online
[16:26:28] wonderfulll is now xa
[16:26:29] wonderfulll is now xa
[16:26:31] Spo1ler is now online
[16:26:41] ts33kr is now online
[16:27:28] cybergrind is now глупница
[16:28:01] MAVr is now xa
[16:28:15] wonderfulll is now xa
[16:28:43] erraen is now online
[16:30:35] Spo1ler is now offline
[16:30:45] GrimbleGromble is now online
[16:31:34] Spo1ler is now online
[16:31:43] ts33kr is now online
[16:31:43] Spo1ler is now online
[16:32:28] cybergrind is now глупница
[16:32:41] MAVr is now Да, я тут
[16:32:46] piranha is now Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication
[16:32:50] Spo1ler is now offline
[16:33:15] wonderfulll is now xa
[16:33:43] erraen is now online
[16:34:34] slav0nic is now offline
[16:34:48] ts33kr is now away
[16:34:49] ts33kr is now away
[16:35:36] ts33kr is now online
[16:35:37] ts33kr is now online
[16:35:58] GrimbleGromble is now away
[16:36:43] ts33kr is now online
[16:37:28] cybergrind is now глупница
[16:38:15] wonderfulll is now xa
[16:38:27] Лорд Ляпатяпа is now away
[16:38:29] Лорд Ляпатяпа is now away
[16:38:43] erraen is now online
[16:38:56] MAVr is now away
[16:39:16] MAVr is now Да, я тут
[16:41:44] ts33kr is now online
[16:42:11] pzskc383 is now offline
[16:42:16] pzskc383 is now online
[16:42:28] cybergrind is now глупница
[16:43:16] wonderfulll is now xa
[16:43:31] лорд Морфий is now xa
[16:43:44] erraen is now online
[16:44:21] wonderfulll is now online
[16:44:22] wonderfulll is now online
[16:44:28] GrimbleGromble is now online
[16:45:15] Typhon is now online
[16:45:45] deepwalker is now online
[16:46:45] ts33kr is now online
[16:47:29] cybergrind is now глупница
[16:48:15] wonderfulll is now online
[16:48:44] erraen is now online
[16:50:39] Portnov is now away
[16:50:41] Portnov is now away
[16:51:45] ts33kr is now online
[16:52:29] cybergrind is now глупница
[16:52:35] nuclearworm is now online
[16:53:16] wonderfulll is now online
[16:53:40] Portnov is now away
[16:53:41] Portnov is now online
[16:53:44] erraen is now online
[16:53:59] jolits is now dnd
[16:54:21] deepwalker: http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/infosecurity/81344/ с кем мы там обсуждали дыру в ie - беру свои слова назад, в висте теперь тоже работает
[16:56:47] ts33kr is now online
[16:57:30] cybergrind is now глупница
[16:58:16] wonderfulll is now online
[16:58:17] nuclearworm is now away
[16:58:45] erraen is now online
[16:59:32] nuclearworm is now online
[17:01:47] ts33kr is now online
[17:02:30] cybergrind is now глупница
[17:03:17] wonderfulll is now online
[17:03:45] erraen is now online
[17:05:52] denz is now away
[17:05:59] denz is now online
[17:06:48] ts33kr is now online
[17:07:31] cybergrind is now глупница
[17:08:17] wonderfulll is now online
[17:08:45] erraen is now online
[17:09:11] gigimon is now Да, я здесь.
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[18:02:50] dmeshr: можно ли как -нибудь сделать сохранение файла в файловой системе на основе шаблона?
[18:02:54] dmeshr: в джанге
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[18:11:45] deepwalker: dmeshr, а что ты такое имел ввиду?
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[18:12:10] deepwalker: то есть каким образом шаблон в этом должен участвовать?
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[18:13:09] dmeshr: я хочу использовать шаблонную систему джанго для генерации конфига и сохранять все это дело в файл а не передавать это через хттп браузеру
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[18:13:26] dmeshr: может есть более удобное решение?
[18:13:49] deepwalker: хм, ну я кстати пользовался, правда не джангой, а jinja
[18:13:56] deepwalker: вполне себе удобно
[18:14:05] deepwalker: а, и джангой пользовался
[18:14:29] dmeshr: а можеш наработками поделицо?
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[18:14:32] deepwalker: для freeswitch (это типа астериска) конфиг отдаю
[18:14:58] dmeshr is now Прямо сейчас меня здесь нет
[18:14:59] deepwalker: та ну какие наработки - взял шаблон, отрендерил в него словарь
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[18:15:29] dmeshr: можеш дать код посмотреть?
[18:15:31] deepwalker: http://github.com/Deepwalker вот мои наработки, сколько угодно : ) правда ничего особо уенного нет так то
[18:15:44] dmeshr: да я понимаю
[18:15:50] dmeshr: что ничего особенного
[18:16:01] dmeshr: не хочецо всю ночь просто над этим сидеть разбирацо
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[18:16:29] deepwalker: http://code.google.com/p/py-configurator/ вот еще из старенького
[18:16:42] deepwalker: может по дереву каталогов сгенерить другое дерево
[18:16:47] dmeshr: ога пасибо
[18:16:49] dmeshr: почитаю
[18:16:52] deepwalker: ну и словарики генерятся динамически
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[18:16:58] deepwalker: ну это как раз для конфигов
[18:17:20] deepwalker: я для cfengine делал - а то он как угодно умеет файлы редактировать, но только не на шаблонах
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[18:17:41] deepwalker: правда делал давно, так что за качество не отвечаю : )
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[18:18:58] tilarids: ёлки-палки! в django темплейтах if почти нормальный стал, а я это почти пропустил
[18:19:41] tilarids: в последнее время они классные фичи начали добавлять
[18:19:51] dmeshr: я для squid хочу конфиг генерить
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[18:21:01] deepwalker: dmeshr, ой йа, что там за конфиг такрй?
[18:21:08] deepwalker: кластер?
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[18:23:11] dmeshr: да не, относительно простой конфиг
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[18:24:28] dmeshr: я там небольшую часть в середине хочу редактировать, чето не особо хочется заморачиваться с поиском
[18:24:53] dmeshr: с шаблонами все ясно и понятно
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[18:26:04] deepwalker: у нас кстати один товарищ юзает m4
[18:26:12] dmeshr: че это
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[18:27:13] dmeshr: и каг?
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[20:24:31] StarForce is now Скромность - это то, что заставляет уважать других, внимательно их слушать и не перебивать, когда тебя хвалят.
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[22:34:48] : xa4a установил(а) тему: Python.SU | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи на google.com | За голосом - в приват к модераторам | Код постить в dumpz.org | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://➡.ws/pu | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Третий тупой вопрос за сутки — на http://throwcatch.me | Ещё рано использовать py3k
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