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[01:14:19] gigimon: скажите, если у меня есть форма из модели, и в clean_content я сделаю self.save(commit=False) я ничего не сломаю?
[01:14:26] gigimon: id объекта потом не поменяется?
[01:14:31] gigimon: при сохранении
[01:16:06] gigimon: а то мне надо поменять 1 поле перед сохранением, а чтобы его поменять, надо знать id этой модели
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[01:22:29] xa4a: если что-то сломаешь, то, по ходу, провалится транзакция и id точно не будет другого)
[01:22:55] xa4a: но, может, если тебе надо знать id, то ты хочешь поменять поле после сохранения?
[01:23:04] xa4a: всё-равно в базу два раза бегать
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[02:48:51] : mishok13 установил(а) тему: Python.SU | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи на google.com | За голосом - в приват к модераторам | Код постить в dumpz.org | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://➡.ws/pu | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Третий тупой вопрос за сутки — на http://throwcatch.me
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[08:49:55] Большой Лис: как питонские пакеты в deb-ы заворачивать?
[08:50:06] Большой Лис: я тут видал stdeb, но оно чото не то мутит
[08:50:34] Большой Лис: файлы пакета оказываются установлеными туда где они были когда их паковали
[08:50:55] Большой Лис: в мойм случае ~/DEV/blabla, вместо /usr/
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[10:07:04] krasoffski: читали http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/microsoft/87825/ , что-то мне кажется, что linux системы снова скоро будут курить в сторонке в плане desktopов... Уж сильно шагнул вперед MS... Как вы считаете?
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[10:08:54] erraen: Смотря чего от десктопа надо.
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[10:09:49] erraen: Мне вот рюшки всяких kde/gnome и даром не нужны, awesome с головой хватает :)
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[10:12:47] krasoffski: насчет рюшечек согласен, мне вот роднее kde3.5. хотя гном стабильнее и быстрее чем kde4 в разы
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[10:18:49] mishok13: ойбля не смешите меня
[10:18:54] mishok13: ie9 лол
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[10:22:38] Большой Лис: mishok13, а чочо, прикольно же, html5, svg
[10:22:49] mishok13: да-да
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[10:22:55] mishok13: релиза дождемся, увидим
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[10:23:04] Большой Лис: какой ты злобный
[10:23:09] Большой Лис: думаешь будет как обычно? %)
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[10:25:00] SV0L0CH: вместо этого они будут патчить костыль
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[10:25:21] SV0L0CH: интересное решение
[10:26:07] mishok13: как обычно "мы сделали лучше <подставить конкурента в данной области>"
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[10:26:47] mishok13: MS Server -- Linux
Zune -- iPod
WinPhone 7 -- Android + iPhone OS
Win7 -- MacOS
[10:26:55] mishok13: а в результате -- ...
[10:27:44] deepwalker: Web - Silverlight
[10:27:49] Большой Лис: а в результате M$ — мегакорпорация с неибическим кол-вом бабла
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[10:28:56] mishok13: эээ, прибыль меньше чем у Apple, IBM или Google
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[10:29:40] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
[10:29:52] Большой Лис: не знаю - не знаю, но один очкастый поц долгое время держал титул самого богатого буратины
[10:30:07] Большой Лис: не спроста это наверно
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[10:30:41] mishok13: Большой Лис, и что дальше?
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[10:30:54] Большой Лис: ничо, мысли в слух
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[10:31:12] Большой Лис: с технологической точки зрения продукты m$ — fail
но маркетойды у них отменные
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[10:31:31] piranha is now Simplicity is the soul of efficiency.
[10:31:43] mishok13: я точно так же могу сказать, что Алла Пугачева -- самая богатая певица во всём бывшем СССР, но качество музыки у неё откровенно плохое, а голоса уже нету
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[10:32:13] mishok13: примеров когда "хорошее" становится "плохоньким" но остается популярным -- множество
[10:32:38] SV0L0CH: mishok13: дык Пугачёва не певица, а продюсер...
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[10:33:04] mishok13: то-то на ее концерты полные залы набиваются
[10:33:11] mishok13: при цене билетов от 1000 грн
[10:33:16] mishok13: (120 баксов)
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[10:34:19] krasoffski: так это поколение жившее в ссср ходит, как вспомнить молодость
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[10:35:18] mishok13: ну так и поколение, выросшее на вин3.1/95 тоже по инерции пользуется виндоей
[10:35:22] mishok13: *виндой
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[10:38:03] mishok13: http://www.yosefk.com/blog/lack-of-wealth-through-lack-of-empathy.html
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[10:44:49] joes: вопросец - как перехватить __setattr__ только на уровне класса?
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[10:45:16] joes: в смысле не инстанса, а класса. @classmethod не катит - мы получаем управление и для инстансов, а self нет.
[10:46:15] joes: ну или нужно аналогичное поведение - получить управление когда кто-то меняет аттрибут класса.
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[10:49:06] mishok13: __setattr__ работает только для инстансов
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[10:49:23] joes: ок, получается - никак?
[10:49:31] mishok13: поэтому надо следить за изменениями __dict__
[10:49:40] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
[10:49:55] mishok13: но это как-то муторно
[10:50:00] joes: угу
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[10:50:00] mishok13: цель неясна
[10:50:20] joes: есть некий код в метаклассе, который походится по классу и выгребает все в один список
[10:50:38] joes: в случае добавления элемента в класс, он должен тоже попадать в этот список
[10:50:44] joes: как-то вот так
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[10:51:28] joes: причем на уровне класса, что бы потом класс можно было создавать и там все было уже прерасчитано
[10:51:31] joes: предрасчитано*
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[10:51:59] mishok13: охбля
[10:52:06] joes: предрассчитано* :-)
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[10:52:20] mishok13: /me представил себе
[10:52:27] piranha: предрассчитал?
[10:52:37] joes: ну да, манкипатчинг - зло, ну а че делать :-\
[10:52:45] joes: ладно, я могу пока выкрутиться
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[10:52:53] mishok13: cls.__dict__ только
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[10:53:01] mishok13: сделай его дескриптором, к примеру
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[10:53:54] joes: ну, под выгребает "все" - это в смысле не вообще все, а все нужное.
[10:54:02] joes: плюс постпроцессинг
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[10:54:35] joes: ладно, сейчас на cls.__dict__ посмотрю
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[10:54:36] joes: сенкс
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[10:56:19] mishok13: но я всё-таки считаю что это ад
[10:56:47] mishok13: я бы даже советовал посмотреть в сторону CL и макросов для таких задач
[10:56:49] joes: ок, ну вот пример - те же модели в джанге
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[10:57:05] joes: оно их собирает в кучку, че-то там с ними делает
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[10:57:10] joes: в метаклассе
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[10:57:27] joes: и через перегруженный __setattr__ позволяет добавлять еще полей
[10:57:37] mishok13: я джангу не знаю и как-то не очень хочется
[10:57:40] joes: ага :-)
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[10:57:50] mishok13: мне paster и werkzeug хватает с головой
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[10:58:05] joes: ну другой пример - wtforms, там тоже самое
[10:58:09] joes: ладно, пофиг
[10:58:25] joes: сделаю classmethod, если надо контрибьютить поля
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[10:58:48] qq6ka: привет. в djang-cms не отображается дерево страниц. показывает "Loading...". И это в примере, который с архивом идёт.
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[10:59:11] qq6ka: он скрипты не может загрузить, хотя они там есть
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[10:59:33] qq6ka: v 2.0.2
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[11:05:05] joes: как ни странно, нашел ответ в алхимии
[11:05:09] joes: они точно такое же делают.
[11:05:16] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
[11:05:19] joes: в метаклассе делаем __setattr__ и получаем профит.
[11:05:22] mishok13: вот алхимии я тоже боюсь
[11:05:26] joes: :-D
[11:05:34] mishok13: модели-хуедели
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[11:05:42] mishok13: слава богу у меня всё прямолинейно
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[11:06:02] mishok13: точнее, асинхронно
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[11:06:38] piranha: асинхренейно
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[11:07:27] mishok13: асинхрененно
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[11:08:00] piranha: асинхреневающий фреймворк
[11:08:04] piranha: это про твистед, наверное
[11:09:12] mishok13: блятвистедидинахуй
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[11:09:19] mishok13: /me брыкается
[11:09:37] mishok13: gevent и tornado
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[11:10:33] deepwalker: не понимаю - прочитал что gevent круче всех, а никак не могу заставить его уделать twisted
[11:10:35] piranha: mishok13: ну, я об этом и говорю
[11:11:09] mishok13: deepwalker, что значит "заставить уделать twisted"?
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[11:11:23] deepwalker: ну чтобы pps был больше, и ошибки не вылетали
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[11:11:34] deepwalker: запускаю сваргу
[11:11:48] deepwalker: под своей оберткой на twisted и под gevent
[11:12:00] deepwalker: gevent почему то жутко сливает
[11:12:24] joes: а там bottleneck не в самой сварге?
[11:12:30] joes: чистый gevent как?
[11:12:33] joes: тоже сливает?
[11:12:44] deepwalker: твситед то не сливает
[11:12:46] deepwalker: на той же сварге
[11:13:07] deepwalker: с теми же гринлетами
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[11:13:13] joes: гм
[11:13:29] deepwalker: я вот и думаю - что за х?
[11:13:42] joes: оно однопоточное?
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[11:13:51] deepwalker: тредов там нет
[11:13:52] joes: в смысле - все гринлеты живут в одном потоке?
[11:13:54] deepwalker: да
[11:14:02] deepwalker: и там и там
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[11:14:50] joes: тогда без идей
[11:14:56] deepwalker: ну и вот - не должно так быть, libevent-http же в gevent
[11:15:11] joes: разве что сам gevent криво встал
[11:15:15] deepwalker: а в твистед на питоне реализован протокол полностью
[11:15:21] deepwalker: вот это может
[11:15:33] joes: попробуй простейший тест на gevent'е
[11:15:38] joes: без фреймворков
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[11:15:50] joes: если оно тоже сольет твистеду, значит gevent кривой
[11:15:53] deepwalker: а точно ведь
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[11:28:50] deepwalker: круто работает, когда отдает It works : )
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[11:30:19] joes: ну, надо учитывать что там еще веркцойг урлы маппит
[11:30:21] joes: в сварге
[11:30:23] joes: и т.д.
[11:30:27] joes: может там боттлнек?
[11:30:33] deepwalker: нету его там
[11:30:39] deepwalker: твистед же не тормозит
[11:31:09] joes: разница под сваргой заметна?
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[11:31:15] joes: в смысле - gevent сильно медленнее?
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[11:31:24] deepwalker: в три раза и с кучей ошибок
[11:31:36] joes: весело.
[11:31:37] deepwalker: ну то есть ошибки обслуживания запроса
[11:31:46] piranha: может напиши автору гевента?
[11:31:48] joes: думаю что это werkzeug'овский greenlet
[11:31:50] piranha: спроси - а шо это оно так сливает?
[11:31:52] joes: так веселится.
[11:31:54] deepwalker: да я вот и думаю - может руки у меня
[11:31:55] piranha: хм, может
[11:31:59] joes: у тебя ж один поток, с гринлетами.
[11:32:02] deepwalker: ну да
[11:32:11] joes: а оно там начинает создавать тредлокалсы
[11:32:12] joes: и т.д.
[11:32:18] joes: гмм
[11:32:23] deepwalker: ну так под твистед он тоже самое делает
[11:32:29] deepwalker: там тоже гринлеты
[11:32:34] deepwalker: у меня то есть там гринлеты
[11:32:42] joes: интересно как оно тогда вообще работает...
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[12:26:12] erraen is now online
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[12:28:10] Большой Лис: http://www.opennet.ru/opennews/art.shtml?num=25828
[12:28:16] Большой Лис: откуда такие идиоты берутся?!
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[12:30:43] mishok13: охбля
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[12:31:14] mishok13: 25 млн. долларов на инет-магазин это как два года назад 15 млн. на соц. сеть
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[12:39:42] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
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[12:41:47] mishok13: http://i.imgur.com/d5IWk.png
[12:43:13] tilarids: эта ж Magento, это про которую на ДОУ говорили, что внутри говнокод, который еще поискать нужно?
[12:43:40] tilarids: и которая у нас в Украине пишется?
[12:43:48] mishok13: ага
[12:43:54] deepwalker: а спонсор человек грызлов
[12:44:12] deepwalker: а в или на?
[12:44:19] deepwalker: по моему всегда было на Украине
[12:44:20] RaD is now xa
[12:44:25] deepwalker: или я гоню?
[12:44:42] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
[12:45:08] _lorien: на было за украиной, а в украине именно в, кажется :)
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[12:46:45] piranha: угу
[12:47:18] lievil is now away
[12:47:34] mishok13: предлагаю для Украины ввести новое слово -- вна
[12:47:38] Typhon: грызлов и мега нано фильтры для воды спонсирует
[12:47:50] Typhon: «Эта установка из жидких радиоактивных отходов, где содержится порядка 2,5–3 тысяч беккирелей на литр радиации, позволяет почистить эту воду до уровня невмешательства — до уровня 1 беккерель на литр»
[12:47:53] Typhon: вна -- круто
[12:47:58] mishok13: """Чемпионат мира по го вна Украине"""
[12:49:04] piranha: Referring Sites 50.88%
Direct Traffic 26.07%
Search Engines 22.88%
Other 0.17%

Other - это как?
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[12:49:42] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
[12:50:19] tilarids: Other - это не смогли определить, хедеры пришли неправильные, etc
[12:50:25] tilarids: ИМХО, естественно
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[12:54:26] piranha: ну не смогли - директ...
[12:54:42] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
[12:55:43] tilarids: piranha: возможно, там хедер указывает на рефер, а реферер порченный какой-то
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[12:56:23] piranha: http://lh3.ggpht.com/_aUeHSbJneFc/S5_6hGojtCI/AAAAAAAACwM/OxIxIgkmMGE/s800/p_fate.jpg
[12:56:24] piranha: йад
[12:56:35] piranha: tilarids: ну хрен знает, в принципе… раньше таких не было :)
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[13:02:14] deepwalker: а я даже прочел, теперь то я все знаю про эксплуататоров
[13:02:23] piranha: :)
[13:02:25] piranha: я тож
[13:02:28] piranha: круто
[13:03:47] deepwalker: а это какого года вообще заметка? откуда она в общем?
[13:03:59] piranha: хз
[13:04:01] piranha: с хабра
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[13:09:28] mishok13: хыхы
[13:09:40] mishok13: РИТМЫ И МЕЛОДИИ ЗАРУБЕЖНОЙ ЭСТРАДЫ
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[13:38:47] SV0L0CH: до меня дошло что не так в твистеде
[13:38:59] mishok13: и что?
[13:39:15] SV0L0CH: он косит под библиотеди для жабы
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[13:39:32] SV0L0CH: ненавижу жабу
[13:39:42] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
[13:40:28] SV0L0CH: надо срочно перестроить мозги под жабобыдлокодинг
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[13:40:55] deepwalker: SV0L0CH, никуда он не косит, и все с ним так :-P
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[13:41:08] deepwalker: а главное в нем дофига всякого полезного
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[13:41:28] SV0L0CH: в жабе тоже дофига очень полезного
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[13:42:35] deepwalker: короче - хватит критики неосилятора разводить
[13:42:50] deepwalker: при чем тут жаба?
[13:43:00] deepwalker: там проблема с мозгами в другом
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[13:43:55] deepwalker: а, ты наверное добрался до сервисов и прочей мути? : ) так она не обязательна к использованию. Я вот ей не пользуюсь
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[13:44:29] SV0L0CH: /me читает мануал подряд чтобы ничего не упустить
[13:44:42] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
[13:44:50] deepwalker: ну если ты добравлсядо этой мутотени. то пора написать пару протоколов
[13:45:10] SV0L0CH: вообще я добрался до интерфейсов
[13:45:27] SV0L0CH: и они мне чтото напомнили
[13:45:44] deepwalker: мне тоже, zope головного мозга, как выражается наш ПМ
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[13:46:39] deepwalker: поэтому я успешно эту часть опускаю для себя : )
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[13:50:34] mishok13: НЕТ ПУТИ ТВИСТЕДУ
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[13:51:41] mishok13: green light for green threads!
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[13:53:50] deepwalker: а что мешает использовать гринлеты в твистед?
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[13:55:38] mishok13: твистед
[13:55:43] mishok13: QED
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[13:57:07] Ляпатяпа: все должны хотеть только джангу под апачем
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[13:57:50] mishok13: честно, я не причисляю себя к неосиляторам, но если библиотека "gets in my way" вместо того, чтобы помогать мне решать задачу -- зачем мне нужна эта библиотека?
[13:57:58] mishok13: это же касается и джанги, кстати
[13:58:28] cutwater: mishok13, а можно узнать чем джангу заменяешь?
[13:58:37] mishok13: а мне ее не надо заменять :)
[13:58:44] deepwalker: mishok13, а ничего, что многим она вполне по пути?
[13:59:08] mishok13: у меня задачи не требуют даже темплейтов, только картинки, xml да svg возвращать
[13:59:20] SV0L0CH: webpy прекрасно подходит вместо джанги
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[13:59:41] mishok13: deepwalker, я рад за тебя и тех, кому комфортно с твистедом
[13:59:43] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
[13:59:56] mishok13: только это другой питон, в общем-то
[14:00:08] mishok13: zopeовский
[14:00:32] mishok13: я рад за тех, кому комфортно с plone, zope и twisted тчк
[14:00:49] Большой Лис: http://emailsfromcrazypeople.com/2010/01/12/impossible/
[14:00:55] SV0L0CH: тем более webpy по архитектуре более похож на js-приложения, с ним приятно работать
[14:01:02] deepwalker: ну не надо смешивать
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[14:01:16] mishok13: но это не отменяет их минусов, в частности перепередизайна и многословности
[14:01:17] deepwalker: при чем тут twisted и зопе?
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[14:01:50] mishok13: многие из тех, кто работал над твистедом, начинали именно с зопы
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[14:01:57] mishok13: и это, откровенно говоря, чувствуется
[14:01:57] deepwalker: ну и что?
[14:02:33] deepwalker: ничего там не чувствуется - если не хочется, то не надо пользовать всякие компонентные штуки
[14:02:41] deepwalker: я вот не пользую, и рад вполне
[14:02:54] deepwalker: если бы пользовал, то тоже бы плевался :)
[14:03:24] deepwalker: а протоколы писать удобно, deferred-ы хорошая штука
[14:04:12] Большой Лис: piranha, как там назывался xmpp сервер на lua написаный?
[14:04:13] deepwalker: там кстати xmpp неплохой реализован
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[14:04:26] mishok13: они же futures, они же promises
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[14:04:33] Большой Лис: нашёл, prosody %)
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[14:04:55] deepwalker: mishok13, я вот больше нигде их не встретил - ни в торнадо, ни в ноде
[14:05:30] Typhon: mishok13: не читал в мейллисте обсудение про пеп3148 кстати? если читал, можешь вкратце рассказать, а тоя не добрался :)
[14:05:35] mishok13: http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3148/
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[14:06:17] mishok13: Typhon, да что там читать, все в восторге, всем нравится, все хотят, но три четверти треда обсуждают, как правильно называть -- future, futures или promises
[14:06:25] SV0L0CH is now online
[14:06:32] mishok13: ну и глиф вылез с deferred, ага, щас, конечно
[14:06:57] Typhon: хахах ) значит в печь ~100 сообщений, пепа хватит
[14:08:30] mishok13: ну и еще PJE вылез со своим "вы как знаете, но правильно в общем-то как в твистеде"
[14:08:38] joes: unbelievables
[14:08:55] deepwalker: я чего обсуждают то?
[14:09:07] deepwalker: почему просто кто-то не напишет?
[14:09:10] deepwalker: если так хочется
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[14:09:21] deepwalker: в смысле о зачем к этому PEP?
[14:09:42] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
[14:09:43] mishok13: блять
[14:09:51] mishok13: чтобы включить в stdlib?
[14:09:57] mishok13: для чего еще PEP?
[14:09:58] Typhon: ну какбэ процесс разработки питона организован так
[14:10:16] deepwalker: на simplejson есть PEP тоже?
[14:10:31] Typhon: ежели "просто напишут" и в стдлиб пихать будут получится пхп, ящитаю
[14:10:56] deepwalker: да не, я не про пихание в стдлиб : )
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[14:11:44] deepwalker: я с этого ракурса не думал - просто обычно если кому то захотелось футурисов, то взяли да написали
[14:12:07] deepwalker: а теперь вы разъяснили, спасибо
[14:12:19] Typhon: Reference futures implementation http://code.google.com/p/pythonfutures/source/browse/#svn/branches/feedback
[14:12:26] Typhon: ну там в пепе внизу
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[14:17:42] Большой Лис: чуваки а есть XEP который описывает присоединение к MUC-у по временным ключам
типо
xmpp:test@conference.domain.tld?join&key=random_md5 и что бы этот random_md5 работал как ключ но имел срок годности?
[14:17:52] Большой Лис: а то я что-то не могу найти...
[14:17:58] Большой Лис: наверно потому что такого нет :/
[14:18:18] mishok13: ты xmpp собрался в военных целях использовать? ;)
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[14:19:00] Большой Лис: ну малоли какие случаи бывают в жизни
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[14:19:43] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
[14:19:48] mr.oduvan: народ, ни у кого проблем с установкой psycopg2 в virtualenv --no-site-packages не было?
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[14:19:57] deepwalker: gssapi какой-нибудь, в военных то целях
[14:20:10] deepwalker: и ключ протухать можно заставить
[14:21:09] Большой Лис: ёжик умеет керберос?
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[14:21:20] deepwalker: вряд ли
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[14:21:30] deepwalker: хотя был патч какой -то
[14:21:40] deepwalker: не, не скажу
[14:22:02] deepwalker: но возможность по любому есть, просто не помню что там с sasl стало
[14:22:22] mr.oduvan: у меня после установки выскакивает
[14:22:23] deepwalker: раньше вроде можно было на системную заменить, вместо эрланговской
[14:22:28] mr.oduvan: ImportError: can't import mx.DateTime module
[14:22:47] Большой Лис: mr.oduvan, так посьавь mx
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[14:24:28] Ляпатяпа: блядь, deluge виснет
[14:24:40] mr.oduvan: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/egenix-mx-base/3.1.2
[14:24:42] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
[14:24:43] Ляпатяпа: вообще ноль реакции
[14:24:44] mr.oduvan: вот это
[14:24:46] mr.oduvan: ?
[14:25:28] mr.oduvan: похоже, что да
[14:25:39] mr.oduvan: как-то я совсем уж тормазнул
[14:25:50] mr.oduvan: щас доустанавливается - проверим
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[14:29:42] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
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[14:31:50] MAVr is now Да, я тут
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[14:34:43] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
[14:36:15] erraen is now online
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[14:39:38] SV0L0CH: чем *.tac отличается от *.py ?
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[14:39:44] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
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[14:40:29] mishok13: расширением
[14:40:32] Большой Лис: расширение другое ^_^
[14:41:14] erraen is now online
[14:41:15] erraen is now online
[14:41:25] mr.oduvan: Большой Лис, после pip install egenix-mx-base получаю
[14:41:28] SV0L0CH: всем капитанам большое блин спасибо
[14:41:29] mr.oduvan: error: option --single-version-externally-managed not recognized
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[14:42:31] mishok13: SV0L0CH, ну я не знаю чего ты ожидал, в общем-то
[14:42:41] mishok13: я в первый раз вообще вижу расширение .tac
[14:42:49] deepwalker: SV0L0CH, tac это уже сформированный файл для запуска, по идее
[14:43:07] deepwalker: он формируется из файла tap, по классике
[14:43:20] deepwalker: но вообще это не обязательно, можно проще
[14:43:30] deepwalker: это все для запуска под twistd демоном
[14:43:52] deepwalker: да и tac расширение не обязательно
[14:44:00] mr.oduvan: похоже это на него вообще питон ругнулся
[14:44:00] deepwalker: я просто py зову
[14:44:21] RaD is now xa
[14:44:43] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
[14:44:56] deepwalker: то есть если ты формируешь файл с использованием service-ов, то он сможет принимать параметры, типа там порт, адрес
[14:45:07] deepwalker: а tac не сможет этого, как ни крутись
[14:45:24] deepwalker: но я делаю таки, они проще, а параметры через файл конфигурации
[14:46:00] deepwalker: но, в принципе, с плугинами тоже ничего сложного, кроме упаковки под дебианом
[14:46:14] erraen is now online
[14:46:26] SV0L0CH: в общем twistd просто цепляет доболнительный типичный код? я так понял?
[14:46:37] deepwalker: я не понял : )
[14:46:45] deepwalker: он запускает
[14:46:50] deepwalker: супервизор типа
[14:46:56] deepwalker: логи пишет куда надо
[14:47:23] SV0L0CH: отладчик чтоли?
[14:47:46] SV0L0CH: ато я это чудо впервые вижу
[14:48:23] deepwalker: да нет, демонизатор
[14:48:35] deepwalker: хочешь демона - запускай под twistd
[14:48:56] deepwalker: он создаст pid, log
[14:49:05] deepwalker: скроется в бекграунд
[14:49:21] RaD is now xa
[14:49:32] deepwalker: позволяет переключить реактор -r epoll например
[14:49:33] SV0L0CH: ясно, упрощает части типовой работы
[14:49:42] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
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[14:51:14] erraen is now online
[14:51:27] tilarids is now online
[14:51:37] SV0L0CH: спасибо, буду ковырять дальше
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[14:54:43] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
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[14:59:16] piranha is now Simplicity is the soul of efficiency.
[14:59:21] RaD is now xa
[14:59:43] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
[15:01:14] erraen is now online
[15:01:14] erraen is now online
[15:01:55] deepwalker: если PST это US/Pacific в pytz, то PDT это что оттуда же?
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[15:03:59] Typhon: deepwalker: летнее/зимнее, емнип
[15:04:10] deepwalker: да я понимать
[15:04:21] RaD is now xa
[15:04:41] deepwalker: просто для PST я пишу в datautil что это pytz.timezone('US/Pacific')
[15:04:43] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
[15:04:53] kwis is now шаримсо
[15:06:14] erraen is now online
[15:06:15] erraen is now online
[15:07:22] deepwalker: вопрос - а для PDT?
[15:07:38] deepwalker: долбаннй пайпал, UTC же есть
[15:07:50] deepwalker: вот какого, блин, его не пользовать
[15:08:01] deepwalker: чтбо им сидеть под виндой
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[15:09:43] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
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[15:24:44] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
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[15:39:43] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
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[15:44:44] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
[15:46:14] erraen is now online
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[15:49:44] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
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[15:54:44] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
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[16:11:54] mishok13: охххохо-хо
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[16:12:16] dicos: АДМИНЫ!!!! ААААААААААА
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[16:12:26] piranha: и шо делать? )
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[16:12:41] Typhon: равина позовите!
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[16:12:53] Typhon: торой их, гоев
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[16:12:58] MAVr is now Да, я тут
[16:12:59] _piranha: суки
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[16:13:02] _lorien: ыы
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[16:13:07] _piranha: у меня тупо нету идей )
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[16:13:12] SV0L0CH: капчу срочно
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[16:13:40] _piranha: а шо капча поменяет?
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[16:13:56] XIT is now dnd
[16:13:57] piranha: гг, оно еще и тормозило нефигово :)))
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[16:14:02] joes: мда
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[16:14:06] joes: сцуко
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[16:14:42] SV0L0CH: убрать личные сообщения
[16:14:46] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
[16:14:49] piranha: опять пришли
[16:14:50] nmk: не
[16:14:52] nmk: как же я про секс пиздеть буду
[16:14:55] nmk: или еще про что
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[16:14:58] nmk: тут же низя
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[16:15:23] piranha: SV0L0CH: а как же новые будут просить войс?
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[16:15:24] joes: ну а толку по имени банить?
[16:15:26] KILL._ALL.JEWS_an is now offline
[16:15:26] nmk: да поставь пока пароль на конфу
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[16:15:34] gigimon is now Да, я здесь.
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[16:16:09] MAVr: вот бляди
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[16:16:31] joes: пароль ставь.
[16:16:39] mishok13: у меня нету прав на это
[16:16:40] joes: оно джоинится обратно
[16:16:44] joes: эх
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[16:16:49] kwis is now шаримсо
[16:16:51] KILL.__ALL.JEWS_fr: хо
[16:16:52] KILL.__ALL.JEWS_fr: хо
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[16:16:55] piranha: бля, не знаю, как через mcabber
[16:16:55] KILL.____ALL.JEWS_ov55ur4 is now online
[16:16:56] KILL.__ALL.JEWS_fr: хо
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[16:17:10] Ляпатяпа: Дай овнера кому-нибудь
[16:17:13] _piranha: как ставить пароли нах
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[16:17:16] _piranha: гг
[16:17:19] _piranha: сек
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[16:17:38] MAVr: я могу поставить в миранде
[16:17:45] joes: аналогично
[16:17:47] KILL.___ALL.JEWS_6a7sfn2 is now online
[16:17:48] MAVr: дайте мне овне на 2 мин
[16:17:50] KILL.____ALL.JEWS_hhdzvvw is now online
[16:17:54] joes: только в общак пароль не постить
[16:17:55] Большой Лис: жесть какая
[16:17:58] KILL.____ALL.JEWS_2k41kg5 is now online
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[16:18:02] joes: только после кика всех придурков
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[16:18:08] MAVr is now Да, я тут
[16:18:09] MAVr: вряд ли бота переделают под пароль
[16:18:09] KILL.ALL.JEWS_wr3a9x0 is now online
[16:18:14] maxp is now away
[16:18:15] _piranha: давай )
[16:18:24] MAVr: нет возможности
[16:18:28] _piranha: хм
[16:18:32] KILL.___ALL.JEWS_n8ha81p is now online
[16:18:34] mishok13: блять
[16:18:34] MAVr is now Да, я тут
[16:18:35] MAVr: я не овнер
[16:18:38] gigimon: дня всем
[16:18:39] trurl: гг
[16:18:40] _piranha: а так?
[16:18:43] KILL.___ALL.JEWS_tov8nmp is now online
[16:18:44] keyptor is now away
[16:18:46] keyptor is now away
[16:18:49] gigimon: ого, а откуда нас столько
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[16:18:56] joes: да это хреновы боты
[16:18:58] SV0L0CH: всех модеров в владельци
[16:19:06] MAVr: все?
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[16:19:37] piranha: пестец какой-то
[16:19:45] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
[16:19:46] trurl: KILL.__ALL.BOTS
[16:20:04] _piranha: надо выдумать что-то с нормальным jabber-клиентом )
[16:20:12] piranha: хммм
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[16:20:17] piranha: там нельзя забанить по хосту?
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[16:20:29] MAVr: ммм... вроде нет
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[16:20:45] trurl: можно по маске. и по хосту
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[16:20:52] Ляпатяпа: > всех модеров в владельци
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[16:20:56] MAVr: trurl: разве правила работают?
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[16:21:18] erraen is now online
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[16:21:43] trurl: да! у меня своя конфа - уже озаботился)
[16:21:46] XIT is now dnd
[16:22:04] Большой Лис: где этот redagent
[16:22:08] MAVr: =)
[16:22:38] Ляпатяпа: смысл делать такой набег, если овнер здесь?
[16:22:53] piranha: а шо это за херня вообще была?
[16:23:00] piranha: и к чему конкретно на питонуа? )
[16:23:14] MAVr: хз
[16:23:17] Ляпатяпа: кто-то намекает, что пятон говно
[16:23:18] Большой Лис: /ban *@darkdna.net
[16:23:19] Большой Лис: хехе
[16:23:22] MAVr: у меня в других конфах такого нету
[16:23:27] _lorien is now offline
[16:23:28] mishok13: так уже
[16:23:32] mishok13: но не помогло
[16:23:35] mishok13: почему-то
[16:23:52] mishok13: я ermine написал
[16:24:11] _piranha: и как?
[16:24:24] RaD is now xa
[16:24:35] trurl: MAVr, http://img6.immage.de/17032c5euntitled1.jpg
[16:24:45] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
[16:25:14] piranha: Баню :D
[16:25:23] Большой Лис: :D
[16:25:23] mishok13: реакции нету
[16:25:26] pzskc383: не знаю, тут ли спрашивать
[16:25:37] pzskc383: будет ли pyicq-t работать на 10м twisted без проблем?
[16:25:38] Большой Лис: давайте проэксперементирует
[16:25:40] Zubchick is now online
[16:25:42] MAVr: так наверное надо было задавать не *@darkdna.net а просто darkdna.net
[16:25:43] trurl: это в gajim`е
[16:26:17] erraen is now online
[16:26:17] erraen is now online
[16:26:20] _lorien is now online
[16:26:21] Большой Лис: MAVr, похоже на то
[16:26:23] piranha: ну в общем можно рискнуть, думаю, добавить и снять пароль :)
[16:26:24] mishok13: MAVr, и то и то забанил
[16:26:29] mishok13: но они продолжали заходить
[16:26:39] mishok13: /me смотрит на gajim с подозрением
[16:26:44] XIT is now dnd
[16:26:46] piranha: гг
[16:26:56] hun7er is now online
[16:26:58] trurl: а капчу? почему бы не поставить капчу на вход?
[16:27:02] SV0L0CH is now offline
[16:27:04] piranha: чорд, в такие моменты я начинаю сожалеть, что я не увлекаюсь ботнетами
[16:27:04] MAVr: ну че? рискнем снять пароль? =)
[16:27:17] piranha: и у меня нету своего на неск тыщ компов
[16:27:19] piranha: давай
[16:27:33] SV0L0CH is now online
[16:27:44] MAVr: вроде тихо
[16:27:46] PC is now away
[16:27:56] joes: вопрос, а что этому боту мешало награбить JID
[16:28:01] joes: и рассылать все минуя канал?
[16:28:10] piranha: а не видно джиды здесь
[16:28:10] joes: с рендомных фейковых JID?
[16:28:11] MAVr: он и рассылал
[16:28:14] piranha: попробуй посмотри
[16:28:20] joes: он с канала рассылал, приватом
[16:28:21] joes: момент
[16:28:38] joes: да видно
[16:28:40] trurl: joes, скажи, какой меня jid? без подсказок модеров
[16:29:01] joes: JID: pythonua@conference.jabber.ru/trurl
[16:29:06] _piranha: это ж не джид
[16:29:07] trurl: приваты можно запретить
[16:29:08] joes: локальный, да
[16:29:10] Большой Лис: гык
[16:29:24] RaD is now xa
[16:29:25] Большой Лис: trurl, кстати, у тебя удобный JID что бы эксперимент провести
[16:29:27] piranha: приваты нельзя запретить - новые юзеры не смогут просить войс
[16:29:27] Большой Лис: ;)
[16:29:38] piranha: Большой Лис: типа никого не затронет?)
[16:29:42] Большой Лис: ага
[16:29:44] joes: у Пиры - мыло светится
[16:29:46] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
[16:29:47] Большой Лис: чисто позырить
[16:29:51] Большой Лис: я потом назад разбаню :D
[16:29:52] trurl: Большой Лис, ая-я-й. ненада шутить
[16:29:58] krasoffski is now online
[16:30:03] piranha: joes: это в инфе о юзере я сам свечу )
[16:30:05] trurl: не ну дава)
[16:30:32] trurl is now online
[16:30:39] trurl is now online
[16:30:39] Zubchick is now online
[16:30:42] trurl is now online
[16:30:46] trurl is now online
[16:30:52] Большой Лис: как интересно
[16:30:55] Большой Лис: не банится нихера
[16:31:03] krasoffski: за последние две недели сегодня рекорд посещ. 40 пользователе...
[16:31:17] erraen is now online
[16:31:24] Большой Лис: trurl, всё, вернул всё как было
[16:31:41] trurl: Большой Лис, да капчу поставь
[16:31:45] XIT is now dnd
[16:31:46] PC is now online
[16:31:47] piranha: krasoffski: это где?
[16:31:52] piranha: trurl: какую капчу?
[16:31:55] krasoffski: это здесь
[16:31:56] MAVr: в настройках комнаты
[16:31:57] Большой Лис: я админ а не овнер
[16:32:03] trurl: ну на сервере есть поддержа капч на вход
[16:32:20] Typhon is now away
[16:32:22] trurl: еси не мембер - при входе выскочит
[16:32:52] trurl: в настройках комнаты
[16:32:59] piranha: хм
[16:33:01] piranha: круто
[16:33:02] MAVr: капча - нормальная штука
[16:33:07] piranha: ну включай
[16:33:09] piranha: :)
[16:33:13] piranha: а оно что, картинкой?
[16:33:14] Большой Лис: а по моему каптчу надо реквестировать у админов сервера
[16:33:23] trurl: не
[16:33:24] MAVr: включил
[16:33:29] piranha: а пароль снял?
[16:33:32] MAVr: да
[16:33:36] MAVr: давно еще
[16:33:51] piranha: ну я хз, возвращаю тебе преимущества обычного человека )
[16:34:04] MAVr: попробуй войти в комнату сначало
[16:34:09] MAVr: выйти/войти
[16:34:10] piranha: а, да, сек
[16:34:11] piranha is now offline
[16:34:14] piranha is now Simplicity is the soul of efficiency.
[16:34:19] MAVr: хз как у тебя капча отработает :-D
[16:34:20] piranha: всë ок, похоже
[16:34:22] trurl: piranha, Большой Лис, пусть капчу проверит)
[16:34:25] piranha: никак не отработала
[16:34:32] RaD is now xa
[16:34:33] Ляпатяпа: так пиранья овнер
[16:34:35] MAVr: ты овнер - гут
[16:34:36] SV0L0CH is now offline
[16:34:37] Ляпатяпа: откуда капча у него будет?
[16:34:40] nmk is now online
[16:34:42] MAVr: меня обратно давай
[16:34:43] Большой Лис: каптча только у не мемберов запрашивается
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[16:34:47] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
[16:34:56] piranha: хмм… добровольцы испробовать есть? :)
[16:34:57] nmk is now online
[16:35:03] nmk: вооо. спасибо
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[16:35:09] MAVr: nmk - была капча?
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[16:35:13] nmk: была
[16:35:17] trurl: о
[16:35:17] MAVr: суп
[16:35:18] Большой Лис: он забанен был :D
[16:35:19] SV0L0CH: я тут как бы вроде в списке учасников?
[16:35:23] Ляпатяпа: меня пускает нормально
[16:35:28] MAVr is now Да, я тут
[16:35:33] nmk: Большой Лис: да. мою шутку не поняли. :)
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[16:35:40] pzskc383: короче. обновим и посмотрим.
[16:35:43] pzskc383: раз тут чятик.
[16:35:49] nmk: а куда кстати sevenov делся?
[16:35:54] piranha: pzskc383: да, что-то все втыкают
[16:35:59] Большой Лис: nmk, а давно тебя забанило?
[16:36:08] piranha: nmk: та что-то протерялся
[16:36:15] SV0L0CH: sevenov-а давно нигде не видно
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[16:36:19] nmk: Большой Лис: да я ж ник на этот kill поменял меня и забанили :)
[16:36:23] piranha: я уже неделю его в онлайне не видел
[16:36:39] nmk: в конфе его че-т вообще очень давно нету
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[16:36:43] pzskc383: piranha: я больше.
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[16:36:55] piranha: в конфе давно, да
[16:37:01] piranha: 7 марта последняя активность в твиттере :)
[16:37:04] Большой Лис: nmk, :DD
[16:37:08] Большой Лис: отличная шутка
[16:37:33] piranha: ггг, точно
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[16:39:42] SV0L0CH: piranha: увидишь Семёркина, сзажи чтобы передал владения javascript@ мне или Optik(на всякий такой случай)
[16:39:46] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
[16:39:58] piranha: ага
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[16:41:29] trurl: mishok13, что с gajim`ом не так? он же на православном питоне)
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[16:42:15] pzskc383: так. перезапускаю сервис.
[16:44:22] mishok13: trurl, на православном питоне говенную программу написать так же легко, как и на сях
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[16:44:25] mishok13: может даже легче
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[16:45:22] pzskc383: ха. всё работает.
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[16:45:32] pzskc383: волшебно.
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[16:49:59] trurl: mishok13, ну я понял. просто_да_потому_что :-)
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[16:50:23] piranha is now Simplicity is the soul of efficiency.
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[16:51:02] Большой Лис: _lorien, колись, это ты всё устроил :D
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[16:51:36] piranha: православие - это фгм
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[16:52:22] Большой Лис: define фгм
[16:52:51] trurl: piranha, ППКС
[16:52:53] Большой Лис: а,понятно
[16:52:59] Большой Лис: Фимоз головного мозга — Lurkmore
[16:54:09] piranha: ну я к тому, что прилагательное православный скорее негативный оттенок несëт, если вдуматься ;)
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[16:54:36] piranha: http://ljplus.ru/img4/s/u/supehero/shsh.jpg
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[16:57:20] mishok13: это прекрасно
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[16:59:03] огыешсук: /me пользует православный debian. И слово православный тут имеет положительную коннотацию!
[16:59:20] piranha: nowei
[16:59:24] RaD is now xa
[16:59:26] piranha: шашлыка и саперави ты не получишь
[16:59:37] mishok13: ну, не забесплатно же
[16:59:47] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
[17:00:40] Zubchick is now online
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[17:02:29] trurl: а че у меня мембера забрали?
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[17:03:00] Большой Лис: trurl, всё ты врёшь
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[17:03:10] _lorien: Большой Лис, неа
[17:03:23] piranha: если б забрали мембера, ты б не смог писать
[17:03:30] piranha: всë чики-пики )
[17:03:40] Большой Лис: piranha, право голоса остаётся без мембера ;)
[17:03:42] Большой Лис: так что мог
[17:03:47] piranha: хм
[17:03:51] piranha: а, да
[17:04:07] piranha: nmk: ахаха, твоë письмо прочëл :)
[17:04:25] RaD is now xa
[17:04:31] Большой Лис: _lorien, это типо шутка такая, неудачная
[17:04:33] nmk: а как я разбанился то тогда?
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[17:04:41] Большой Лис: nmk, я разбанил
[17:04:48] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
[17:04:59] nmk: а. тогда тебе спасибо :)
[17:05:02] Большой Лис: скорее всего я же и забанил :D
[17:05:09] Большой Лис: я не заметил
[17:05:13] nmk: :)))
[17:05:18] Большой Лис: гасил kill-ов по автодополнению
[17:05:22] piranha: :)
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[17:09:02] piranha: кто-нить шарит в hcard?
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[17:09:48] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
[17:10:39] piranha: какого так сказать перца? http://h2vx.com/vcf/piranha.org.ua/about/
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[17:13:32] _lorien: piranha, может там в head должен быть аттрибут специальный?
[17:14:11] piranha: tantek.com на шару выкачивает, не вижу там ничего такого
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[17:14:48] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
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[17:17:56] piranha: ааа пля
[17:18:03] piranha: потому что у меня <article> там
[17:18:12] piranha: new HTML5 elements (such as header, footer, section) are not supported (this is because they are stripped out by PHP Tidy and thus ignored). Tantek 16:13, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

[17:18:14] piranha: :(
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[17:19:48] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
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[17:22:39] Большой Лис: на апрель в киеве чонть интересное не намечается случайно?
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[17:26:37] piranha: codecamp 2010?
[17:26:43] piranha: не знаю только, будет ли он интересным
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[17:31:35] bobry: если кто не смотрел еще видео с pycon'a - срочно смарите) хороших докладов туча
[17:31:46] XIT is now dnd
[17:31:58] piranha: эх
[17:32:01] piranha: таки да
[17:32:15] bobry: конечно надо на такие мероприятия лично являться, но далековато буит
[17:32:37] mishok13 is now xa
[17:33:07] Большой Лис: piranha, ясно, тогда тупо пьянка :D
[17:33:10] piranha: опа
[17:33:13] piranha: http://openwebcamp.org.ua/
[17:33:18] piranha: теперь список докладов уже ничего такой ;)
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[17:34:11] gigimon: а можно ли как-то в endswith() засунуть список?
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[17:34:30] piranha: map
[17:34:37] gigimon: ок, спс
[17:34:44] piranha: map(q.endswith, [1,2,3])
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[17:35:04] gigimon: спс
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[17:36:34] piranha: сходить, что ли...
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[17:36:37] piranha: кто-нить идëт?
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[17:37:27] gigimon: хоошо в больших городах
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[17:37:32] gigimon: семинарчики всякие
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[17:37:57] piranha: :)
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[17:41:52] _lorien: gigimon, с версии 2.5 список можно передавать в endswith
[17:42:40] gigimon: м
[17:42:41] gigimon: спс
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[17:44:10] gigimon: >>> abc = "abc"
>>> abc.endswith(["a","c"])
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<console>", line 1, in <module>
TypeError: expected a character buffer object
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[17:44:13] gigimon: 2.6
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[17:44:45] gigimon: piranha: у нас тут кстати какая-то конторка решил семинар по c# и RoR провести )
[17:44:49] gigimon: пойду вот слушать
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[17:44:59] piranha: gigimon: шойта ты делаешь?
[17:45:12] piranha: map(abc.endswith, ['a', 'c'])
[17:45:22] gigimon: piranha: :[17:41] _lorien: gigimon, с версии 2.5 список можно передавать в endswith
[17:45:26] piranha: а
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[17:45:54] piranha: S.endswith(suffix[, start[, end]]) -> bool

[17:45:58] piranha: да ну, какой нафиг список
[17:46:06] gigimon: не список
[17:46:09] bobry: _lorien нагло врет)
[17:46:10] gigimon: а tuple принимает
[17:46:16] gigimon: Changed in version 2.5: Accept tuples as suffix.
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[17:46:48] piranha: хммм
[17:46:49] bobry: а, и точно
[17:46:51] piranha: шо ж докстринг не поменяли?
[17:46:57] gigimon: хз
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[17:47:05] bobry: дык и дай ему тупл
[17:47:10] bobry: нафик ты лист то передаешь?
[17:47:17] bobry: я попробовал - list вызывает exception
[17:47:28] piranha: дай ему масла, він його любив
[17:47:43] bobry: я такое не понимать0
[17:47:56] piranha: скрізь підараси :(
[17:48:03] gigimon: bobry: эээ, чего? я то тупл и передал щас, просто сказали список)
[17:48:05] gigimon: я и попробовал
[17:48:08] gigimon: а оказался тупл
[17:48:12] piranha: данія нещасна
[17:48:22] bobry: http://us.pycon.org/2010/conference/schedule/event/7/
[17:48:23] gigimon: piranha: часто по украински пишешь?
[17:48:31] piranha: наизусть не помню
[17:48:39] bobry: чавой это?
[17:48:46] piranha: gigimon: когда цитирую Леся - то всегда )
[17:48:49] gigimon: порнятно
[17:49:01] piranha: порнятно - это интересное словообразование
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[17:49:34] piranha: АААА МЛЯЯЯ
[17:49:54] piranha: азаров по украински говорит так, что любому другому 100 очков вперëд даст
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[17:51:37] gigimon: piranha: ты кстати политику нашу смотришь?
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[17:52:05] piranha: не, не очень
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[17:52:31] gigimon: просто после смены президента, вся наша дума резко стала по-русски говорить
[17:52:37] gigimon: хотя до этого пытались на ломаном украинском
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[17:54:52] piranha: ага
[17:54:56] piranha: падлы тупые
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[17:56:34] trurl: "Министр транспорта уже знает, что поезд едет вдоль рельс, а мост стоит поперек реки" (с)
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[18:03:17] SV0L0CH: piranha: ты кофейные скрипты в чём подсвечиваешь?
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[18:03:56] piranha: emac
[18:03:58] piranha: *emacs
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[18:05:07] SV0L0CH: /me не умеет настраивать emacs :(
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[18:05:29] Большой Лис: что такое "кофейные скрипты"?
[18:05:33] piranha: coffee-script
[18:05:38] piranha: SV0L0CH: варианты: textmate, vim
[18:05:45] Zubchick is now online
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[18:06:07] SV0L0CH: taxtmate умет это искаропки?
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[18:07:08] Большой Лис: piranha, а кто такое азаров?
[18:07:32] klichuk is now online
[18:07:48] piranha: наш текущий премьер
[18:07:54] piranha: SV0L0CH: нет, но с кофе идëт
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[18:09:29] Мозгошредер: Ну азаров отжог, да :)
[18:10:06] gigimon: а для имени файла (который будет долго храниться), нормально юзать uuid().hex
[18:10:10] gigimon: для создания уникального имени?
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[18:13:01] piranha: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W22EXYZKSvo
[18:13:05] piranha: нереальный чувак
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[18:15:17] gigimon: ага
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[18:16:06] trurl: Я вот думаю: 29 министров это мало. Нужно округлить. Создать министерство пропаганды. А министром поставить (тут без сомнения) Ганну Геббельс.
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[18:17:07] piranha: министерство правды
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[18:17:46] SV0L0CH: ладно, буду без подсветки
[18:18:08] trurl: SV0L0CH, ок
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[21:17:18] bill-1029 is now В сети
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[21:19:32] Большой Лис: кстати вопрос про deb файлы открыт досихпор
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[21:23:23] deepwalker: Большой Лис, а что с ним? А то там сквозь дебри политики продираться лениво.
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[21:23:48] Большой Лис: как упаковать петонский модуль в деб
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[21:27:49] piranha is now Simplicity is the soul of efficiency.
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[21:30:09] deepwalker: а, так руками же : )
[21:30:19] deepwalker: а в каком виде модуль?
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[21:31:01] deepwalker: http://easy-deb.sourceforge.net/ вот есть чего то
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[21:32:51] deepwalker: http://github.com/astraw/stdeb
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[21:33:00] deepwalker: я ж знал что есть
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[21:39:38] bobry: github скоро будет как facebook блин, тока для гиков
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[21:40:46] Большой Лис: bobry, он таким изанчально задумывался
[21:41:03] Большой Лис: stdeb этот весьма странный
[21:41:09] bobry: значит он преуспевает в этом) еще как
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[21:41:24] Большой Лис: попробую руками сначала
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[21:51:58] Большой Лис: breakout-rest-auth_0.1_all.deb
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[21:54:44] Большой Лис: вроде получилось
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[21:54:48] Большой Лис: ща поставлю где то :D
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[22:27:19] alecs: народ , немножко не по теме : может кто знает как "толкнуть" гугёл чтобы тот проиндексировал страничку ?
[22:27:39] alecs: я полгода назад мучался так и не получилось ...
[22:28:05] erraen is now online
[22:28:43] xa4a: в webmaster tools, вроде, было что-то такое
[22:28:55] xa4a: у тебя пол года страничка не индексируется?
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[22:36:01] Большой Лис: байткод произведённый на x86 и x64_86 разный или одинаковый? (если версии питона одинаковые)
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[22:37:33] bobry: разные думаю
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[22:38:32] xa4a: кажется, одинаковый
[22:38:45] xa4a: но на одной архитектуре, с разными версиями -разный точно
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[22:43:09] alecs: ))
[22:43:10] erraen is now online
[22:43:11] alecs: я её забросил
[22:43:21] alecs: выходит полгода )
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[22:49:28] lievil is now online
[22:49:31] lievil is now online
[22:49:50] RaD is now xa
[22:50:10] Мозгошредер is now offline
[22:51:07] Zubchick is now online
[22:51:24] alecs is now online
[22:51:28] alecs: спасибо за webmaster tools :)
[22:51:31] alecs: всё получилось
[22:51:34] trurl is now away
[22:52:11] XIT is now dnd
[22:53:07] erraen is now online
[22:53:10] cutwater is now xa
[22:54:50] RaD is now xa
[22:54:52] Portnov is now away
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[22:57:11] XIT is now dnd
[22:57:41] alecs is now offline
[22:58:08] erraen is now online
[22:58:47] cutwater is now online
[22:59:50] RaD is now xa
[23:01:07] Zubchick is now online
[23:01:10] Мозгошредер is now away
[23:01:34] trurl is now xa
[23:02:11] XIT is now dnd
[23:03:08] erraen is now online
[23:04:00] trurl is now online
[23:04:50] RaD is now xa
[23:05:05] pi11 is now webii.ru
[23:05:24] trurl is now offline
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[23:06:08] Zubchick is now online
[23:06:47] pi11: Странный глюк с куками:
Почему-то с сайта online.bilets.org куки питоновской библиотекой в
файл не сохраняются:
http://pastebin.com/P9b4xks6

(тот же код с других сайтов куки сохраняет).
результат работы скрипта - (cat cookies.lwp
#LWP-Cookies-2.0
Set-Cookie3: yandexuid=8257235881268858709; path="/";
domain=".yandex.ru"; path_spec; domain_dot; expires="2020-03-14
20:45:09Z"; version=0
)
как видно, куки с яндекса сохранились, а с online.bilets.org нет.
Есть идеи куда копать?
[23:07:06] trurl is now online
[23:07:12] XIT is now dnd
[23:08:09] erraen is now online
[23:08:14] _lorien is now away
[23:09:51] RaD is now xa
[23:10:07] Большой Лис: $ python t.py
0 : <Cookie ASP.NET_SessionId=sr514g45ol25pe45ilpmol55 for online.bilets.org/>
0 : <Cookie yandexuid=746831641268860197 for .yandex.ru/>

[23:10:37] Zubchick is now offline
[23:10:47] Большой Лис: очевидно файл тупо перетирается
[23:11:17] pi11: не, убери пост на яндекс.
[23:11:21] pi11: все равно не сохраняет
[23:11:23] bobry: можно написать свой куки jar, и делать с куками все что хочется
[23:11:35] cutwater is now online
[23:12:12] XIT is now dnd
[23:13:10] erraen is now online
[23:13:14] _lorien is now xa
[23:13:24] pi11: вот это помогло: cj.save(COOKIEFILE, ignore_discard=True)
[23:14:51] RaD is now xa
[23:15:42] Большой Лис: аа, типо время сесси == 0
[23:15:43] Большой Лис: хехе
[23:16:45] cutwater is now away
[23:17:02] Большой Лис: expires=None, discard=True
[23:17:12] XIT is now dnd
[23:17:15] Большой Лис: браузер закрык, кукис испарился
[23:18:10] erraen is now online
[23:18:12] _lorien is now online
[23:18:30] Большой Лис is now offline
[23:19:52] RaD is now xa
[23:20:44] Мозгошредер is now offline
[23:21:07] trurl is now away
[23:21:23] Typhon is now online
[23:22:13] XIT is now dnd
[23:22:17] Typhon is now offline
[23:23:10] erraen is now online
[23:24:52] RaD is now xa
[23:26:45] cutwater is now xa
[23:27:13] XIT is now dnd
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[23:38:12] erraen is now online
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[23:43:13] erraen is now online
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[23:46:35] Typhon is now online
[23:47:15] XIT is now dnd
[23:48:14] erraen is now online
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[23:49:55] lievil is now away
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[23:52:15] XIT is now dnd
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[23:59:54] RaD is now xa