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[01:06:47] gigimon: а как в джанге лучше проверить, есть уже модель с определенными параметрами или нет?
[01:06:59] gigimon: оборачивать в try и ловить except?
[01:08:02] xa4a: Модель?
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[01:08:11] xa4a: модель с параметрами?
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[01:09:50] gigimon: ну эм
[01:10:04] xa4a: если ты имеешь в виду инстанс с опредлёнными значениями полей..
[01:10:12] gigimon: да
[01:10:15] xa4a: то тебе могут помочь get_object_or_404
[01:10:20] xa4a: или get_or_create
[01:10:24] gigimon: а если это не во вьюхе?
[01:10:40] xa4a: или таки try: .. except ModelName.DoesNotExist: ..
[01:10:56] xa4a: эгм..
[01:11:03] gigimon: хм
[01:11:08] xa4a: get_or_create?
[01:11:11] xa4a: смотря что ты хочешь делать
[01:11:13] gigimon: да его наверно
[01:11:29] gigimon: чет я смотрел на него и не сразу понял как сунуть его тут
[01:11:36] gigimon: а если таких модели три?)
[01:11:45] gigimon: тупо поочереди?
[01:11:50] gigimon: они сделаны через абстрактуню
[01:13:14] xa4a: э?
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[01:14:56] gigimon: спс
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[16:47:44] cutwater: товарищи, вопрос. как у moinmoin с мультиязычностью
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[16:48:15] piranha: http://plugins.jquery.com/project/crash
[16:48:31] mishok13: вроде как ок
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[16:48:55] cutwater: ну интересует возможность страницу иметь на разных языках с отображением языка в урле етц.
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[18:00:36] piranha: http://lists.openamq.org/pipermail/openamq-dev/2010-March/001598.html
[18:00:45] piranha: хахаха, любители кролик-mq, читайте
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[18:05:27] mishok13: /me ибал
/me пользуется старым добрым TCP и ибал
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[18:07:40] mishok13: хотя, конечно, некоторые вещи там интересны
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[18:08:50] mishok13: этот zeromq есть в виде деба?
[18:09:14] wiz: а при чём тут кролик?
[18:09:40] mishok13: ахтыжблять, только tgz
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[18:58:26] mkfs: Можно отделить реализацию класса от описания? Как-то так http://dumpz.org/18198/
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[18:59:43] piranha: def __init__(self, who):
self.who = who
Cl.__init__ = __init__
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[19:02:42] mkfs: А сделать реализацию конструктора не глобальным можно? (Без обертывания в фунцию..) Т.е. как в С++ можно сделать?
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[19:06:24] piranha: хз как в с++
[19:06:30] piranha: зачем тебе такие странности?
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[19:07:09] mkfs: Приятнее смотрет на класс, когда там только функции-члены, без реализации.
[19:07:25] Sevenov: mkfs, хуетень несешь.
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[19:15:45] SV0L0CH: mkfs: а к java как относишся?
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[19:17:28] mkfs: Никак. Не использовал доселе.
[19:18:02] mkfs: А что?
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[19:19:45] SV0L0CH: mkfs: да так... ознакомся... тебе понравится
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[19:24:51] mkfs: А без иронии нельзя? Сразу бы и сказал в чём соль.
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[19:30:18] mkfs: SV0L0CH: Всенепременно так и сделаю.
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[19:50:58] _lorien: почему в шаблонах {{ obj.created }} выводится без учёта settings.DATETIME_FORMAT?
[19:51:08] _lorien: в django-шаблонах
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[20:56:27] deepwalker: какое счастье будет, если он не займется python. Не будет еще одной Zope
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[20:58:33] GrimbleGromble: откуда пошла фраза - "ну ты понел", что я пропустил?
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[21:04:44] Ferroman: а что c python.su, никто не в курсе?
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