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[08:24:04] kwis: народ где можно выхватить дешевую вдску???
[08:24:19] kwis: или лучше бесплатно напатрогать
[08:24:23] kwis: на пару месяцев
[08:24:42] _lorien: лучше возьми на gandi.net, она не совсем дешёвая, но ЭТО НЕ ГОВНО
[08:24:55] _lorien: gandi.net, sicehost.com, linode.com
[08:25:13] kwis: _lorien, спасибо, сейчас посмотрим
[08:25:32] _lorien: kwis, gandi.net мне нравится т.к. там пинг меньше до россии, они в Германии, остальные две компании в штатах. У ганди есть бесплатный тест, надо на сайте написать заявку. Я писал и мне дали.
[08:26:27] kwis: будем знать...
[08:26:37] _lorien: да чо знать, покупай давай :D
[08:26:46] erraen is now online
[08:26:56] _lorien: не ну если нужна правда дешёвая vds, вон на firstvds.ru рублей за сто :)
[08:27:18] _lorien: но в таких вещах потом боком выходит поиско дешёвого предложения )
[08:28:00] _lorien: http://fastvps.ru/openvzprice.php или тут от 2.9 евро )
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[08:36:26] огыешсук: /me . o 0 (нет бы в hetzner дедик нормальный взять за какие то полсотни евро в месяц)
[08:36:32] kwis: та тут дело в том что я хочу сидбокс...
firstvds.ru уже отпадает потому как там тока гиг трафика дают
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[10:11:27] Darth Лис: http://twitter.com/asolovyov/status/11759785963
[10:11:30] Darth Лис: а как он это сделал?
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[10:12:49] deepwalker: а что за VC?
[10:12:53] wiz: а что за VC?
[10:13:13] Typhon: version control?
[10:13:17] Darth Лис: VersionControl
[10:13:26] deepwalker: не понятно : )
[10:13:42] deepwalker: вимеры мы
[10:13:55] Typhon: я бы тоже отключил, кстате
[10:14:22] Typhon: Darth Лис: "To disable VC entirely, set the customizable variable vc-handled-backends to nil"
[10:14:35] Darth Лис: ща попробую
[10:14:45] deepwalker: а что он делает то?
[10:15:28] Darth Лис: интерфейс ко всяким cvs,svn,git даёт
[10:15:39] Darth Лис: только понта с этого...
[10:15:42] Typhon: Darth Лис: оно вроде, работает :)
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[10:17:24] wiz: как там это в конфиг записать?
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[10:19:16] Darth Лис: (setq vc-handled-backends nil)
[10:19:44] wiz: а куда?
[10:19:47] wiz: ~/.emacs ?
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[10:20:54] Typhon: wiz: например, у меня пираньевские конфиги за основу, так что я в ~/.emacs.d/load/general_init.el :)
[10:21:37] Darth Лис: wiz: ~/.emacs/init.el основной файл с какого всё начинается
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[10:24:03] wiz: да
[10:24:07] wiz: риальни пыщпыщ теперь
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[12:54:43] piranha: deepwalker: бтв, я вчера закоммитил страшную штуку в сваргу, типа будь осторожен
[12:54:47] piranha: models в db переименовал :)
[12:55:09] deepwalker: спасибо за предупреждение : )
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[12:55:57] mishok13: это ужасно
[12:56:08] mishok13: надо хотя бы deprecationwarning сначала
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[12:56:26] piranha: mishok13: не, мне пох
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[13:01:06] Darth Лис: гм
[13:01:09] Darth Лис: а чо за прикол
[13:01:29] Darth Лис: в апаче, если <Location "/">
то в PathInfo нихера не пишется
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[13:05:22] _lorien: А что это? Переменная окружения?
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[13:07:27] Darth Лис: а если написать <Location "/some_prefix">
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[13:07:57] Darth Лис: то pathinfo будет равен запрошеному пути с оторваным от начала some_prefix
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[13:37:48] Andrew_Maksimov: день добрый. если тут есть кто-либо, использующий GTK, подскажите пожалуйста, в какую сторону копать, если получаешь вот такую ошибку: AttributeError: 'gtk.IconTheme' object has no attribute 'append_search_path
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[13:44:37] Typhon: Andrew_Maksimov: версия PyGTK какая?
[13:45:03] _lorien: ещё в гугле про баг с py2exe какой-то чувак пишет :)
[13:45:03] Andrew_Maksimov: 2.16.0
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[13:45:54] Andrew_Maksimov: _lorien: потому что он появляется только после запаковки в exe-шник скрипта. при запуске скрипта напрямую - никаких ошибок нет =(
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[13:46:56] Andrew_Maksimov: Typhon: PyGTK - 2.16.0 GTK - 2.16.5
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[13:48:34] _lorien: ну вот, чуваку ничего не ответили )
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[13:49:42] _lorien: так а полный traceback ошибки есть?
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[13:52:41] Andrew_Maksimov: _lorien: да. собственно он ругается вот на следующий вызов: gtk_icon_theme = gtk.icon_theme_get_default()
gtk_icon_theme.append_search_path(ICONS_DIR)
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[13:55:19] _lorien: ну а доступ к консоли есть можно ли туда воткнуть pdb например?
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[14:01:06] Andrew_Maksimov: _lorien: да, есть. могу воткнуть.
[14:01:29] _lorien: Ну втыкай до вызова append_search_path и исследуй :) Больше нет идей.
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[14:02:07] _lorien: может быть append_search_path в методе __getattr__ обрабатывается и этот метод падает с молча подавленной ошибкой.. я с gtk вообще не работал
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[14:05:22] Andrew_Maksimov: _lorien: странно, что при непосредственном запуске скрипта - никаких ошибок нет. всё работает как надо. а эта ошибка возникает только при запуске скрипта, свёрнутого в ехе-шник(при помощи py2exe)
[14:05:37] _lorien: я и говорю
[14:05:50] _lorien: доступ есть к pdb, когда оно внутри py2exe?
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[14:08:32] wiz: а хабр и дирти/лепра это одних авторов проекты?
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[14:09:41] deepwalker: вроде разных
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[14:10:12] wiz: мне почему-то всегда казалось, что у истоков и там и там одни люди
[14:11:10] Sevenov: wiz, футурико - одни люди, тм - другие.
[14:11:16] Sevenov: но вроде типа дружат.
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[14:42:36] gigimon: а никто незнает сайтика, который тестит сайт на нагрузку?
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[14:44:08] gigimon: сайтик=сервис
[14:44:30] piranha: http://codecamp.org.ua/schedule/
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[14:45:38] mishok13: Яндекс решил попиариться
[14:45:40] mishok13: нюню
[14:45:52] mishok13: /me вспомнил доклад от рамблеровца на pycamp
[14:46:01] wiz: gigimon, siege на vps (:
[14:46:37] gigimon: wiz: да лень... хочется тыкнуть кнопочку и все)
[14:46:47] gigimon: чет такое было на хабре полгода назад. не могу найти
[14:47:03] mishok13: прийдеться идти, хотя бы на якарты и wlbs
[14:47:18] mishok13: piranha, а ты там будешь учавствовать?
[14:47:40] piranha: а хз
[14:47:41] gigimon: блин, хоть в киев езжай жить =
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[14:47:53] Typhon: http://n.maps.yandex.ru/
[14:47:57] piranha: mishok13: в каком плане участвовать?
[14:48:03] mishok13: докладывать
[14:48:21] mishok13: Typhon, ага, поржал
[14:48:35] piranha: докладывать не, времени нет готовицо
[14:48:48] piranha: я к девконфу в поте лица должен еще готовиццо :)
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[14:49:06] Typhon: а гугломапс сегодня метро "площадь ильича" (восток) поместили рядом с варшавской (юг)
[14:49:38] gigimon: piranha: а с чем будешь выступать?
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[14:50:20] piranha: gigimon: http://devconf.ru/python/offers/ :)
[14:50:33] mishok13: Typhon, это еще что, у нас на гуглемапсах показаны не(п/д)остроенные станции метро и скоростная ветка трамвая отрисована как линия метро
[14:50:40] mishok13: такие дела.
[14:51:15] deepwalker: а что такое скоростной трамвай?
[14:51:33] piranha: трамвай, который ограждëн и не пересекается с другими видами транспорта
[14:51:36] gigimon: клева
[14:51:37] piranha: в результате бегает быстрее
[14:51:44] Typhon: mishok13: а им типа вообще пофиг, или если написать, исправят, не в курсе?
[14:52:00] mishok13: Typhon, гуглу на украину насрать, в общем-то
[14:52:06] Typhon: скоростной трамвай -- круто, надо будет попробовать, как в киеве буду )
[14:52:08] mishok13: месяц назад написали
[14:52:14] mishok13: он сейчас на ремонте
[14:52:18] mishok13: то есть не работает вообще
[14:52:20] piranha: deepwalker: http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%B9
[14:52:34] mishok13: и еще он нифига не быстрый
[14:52:36] wiz: DevConf::Python() FFFFUUUU~
[14:52:37] piranha: mishok13: ну кусочек же работает
[14:52:43] piranha: в киеве да, он тормозной
[14:52:44] mishok13: где?
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[14:52:51] piranha: в кривом роге он практически как метро
[14:52:54] mishok13: до индустриального точно не работает
[14:53:04] piranha: ну да, после лепсе работает
[14:53:13] deepwalker: в Самаре некоторые ветки хорошо изолированы :)
[14:53:15] deepwalker: местами
[14:53:24] piranha: от борщаги до лепсе ходит и дальше по обычной линии трамвая
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[14:54:20] mishok13: ну, трешка же еще не ходит
[14:54:32] gigimon: а никто в киеве квартирку на пару дней не сдает?
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[14:54:58] deepwalker: сколько хороших видов транспорта, и все не про Томск
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[14:55:15] gigimon: deepwalker: да ладно :) ты не одинок
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[14:57:02] deepwalker: /me думает - чего никто город в профиле не пишет
[14:57:13] wiz: /me недогнал про DevConf - там все зарегистрировавшиеся выступают или есть слушатели отдельно?
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[15:18:45] wiz: в xmpp транспорты это компоненты?
[15:19:09] wiz: как называется хрень, которая не имеет своего жида, но может от имени сервера получать/слать любые станцы?
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[15:24:52] wiz: кто-нибудь видел http://github.com/fritzy/SleekXMPP ?
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[15:25:01] gigimon: во: loadimpact.com
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[15:34:35] pr0ks: Ребят, кто-нибудь использует в продакшене mongoengine?
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[15:35:02] pr0ks: Я тут чуть-чуть поковырял пакет этот и почти полюбил
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[15:36:44] pr0ks: Особенно порадовало наследование.. User можно расширить элементарно.. Просто унаследовав.. А при выборке по User.objects получать объект своего типа %)
[15:36:52] pr0ks: Вот оно счастье
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[15:40:07] nmk: а чем оно лучше mongokit?
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[15:41:38] pr0ks: Так что не знаю :)
[15:41:48] pr0ks: Сейчас и его гляну
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[15:44:46] gigimon: я правильно понимаю, что Node.js это фреймворк/средство для написания приложения на js?
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[15:45:09] piranha: примерно так
[15:45:36] gigimon: piranha: писал на нем что-то?
[15:45:49] piranha: http://hg.piranha.org.ua/finick/
[15:45:56] gigimon: ок)
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[16:23:48] deepwalker: pr0ks, mongoengine в некотором роде издевательство
[16:24:03] deepwalker: я вот не понял, как в нем засунуть поле от балды
[16:24:41] deepwalker: Поэтому пилю свое http://github.com/Deepwalker/mongomodels
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[16:25:47] pr0ks: В смысле? "поле от балды".. Т.е. не объявленное в описании модели?
[16:26:21] deepwalker: ага
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[16:27:20] pr0ks: А для чего эт нужно? Я, конечно, понимаю, что в отсутствии схемы как раз и главная фишка монго.. Но по-моему это внесет лишний хаос
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[16:29:01] deepwalker: то же про пайтон
[16:29:19] deepwalker: как же так!!! ужасный язык! в нем же нет приват методов
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[16:30:07] pr0ks: :) ну хорошо, согласен, что это оправдано когда пишем нечто типа каталога товаров и неизвестно азранее какие свойства они будут иметь
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[16:30:31] pr0ks: Но в противном случае.. Когда все заранее известно.. По-моему так удобнее) Мб это просто дело привычки)
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[16:40:13] deepwalker: я вот тут экспериментирую и сделал oAuth аутентификацию. И на mongoengine пытался умять в структуру - сделал DictField providers, там завел twitter и не смог поискать по запросу provider.twitter.id
[16:40:29] deepwalker: а что мне, в модель всех провайдеров вносить?
[16:40:38] deepwalker: ну пняж
[16:40:53] deepwalker: поэтому я и выкинул mongoengine
[16:41:14] nmk: deepwalker: в mongokit вроде как можно так.
[16:41:17] nmk: просто указываешь что там dict и все
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[16:45:30] deepwalker: а запрос можно?
[16:45:53] deepwalker: мне мое в общем милее, у меня просто dict, и нет гвоздей : )
[16:46:33] nmk: да думаю да. я плохо уже помню. но вроде там в доке упоминалось, что если ты "схему" описываешь и указываешь там {} то будь добр укажи поля, если указываешь dict, то херач туда что угодно. врядли искать нельзя будет :)
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[16:48:17] deepwalker: в монгоенжине тоже можно DictField
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[16:49:04] nmk: и потом не ищется?
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[16:49:36] deepwalker: blogpost['title'] = u'my title' фу
[16:49:41] deepwalker: не, не ищется
[16:49:45] deepwalker: в mongoengine
[16:49:54] deepwalker: у меня лучшее от двух миров : )
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[16:50:10] deepwalker: за исключением что автор не так давно из сисадминов и накладки возможны :)
[16:50:38] nmk: ну, у меня вообще просто своя обертка из 4х методов над стандартным драйвером. но мне всего ничего от нее надо
[16:51:23] deepwalker: мне просто хотелось, чтобы это было того же вида, что и все в сварге
[16:51:24] nmk: единственное я там обернул на тот случай, что если придет reconnect, то что бы запрос заново посылался
[16:51:30] deepwalker: пока вот с полями у меня проблем некоторый
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[17:17:48] deepwalker: >>> T_T =_= 0
>>> range(0)[ :3 ^_^ T_T :3 ] не пойму
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[17:18:00] deepwalker: как это работает?
[17:18:42] piranha: гм
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[17:18:45] deepwalker: _ еще понятно
[17:18:50] deepwalker: но ^_^
[17:19:03] piranha: >>> 1 ^ 1
0

[17:19:06] piranha: это или
[17:19:20] piranha: 3 ^ _ ^ T_T = 3
[17:19:23] piranha: == 3
[17:19:35] piranha: итого [:3:3]
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[17:20:39] piranha: ну, T_T == 0, _ == 0, 3 ^ 0 ^ 0 == 3
[17:22:56] gigimon: ох ты блин
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[17:27:40] deepwalker: о, дошло, tnx
[17:27:55] deepwalker: забыл совсем про крышечку
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[17:43:41] piranha: Typhon: циркумсайзинг!
[17:44:36] Typhon: piranha: Your search - циркумсайзинг - did not match any documents. :(
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[20:21:38] deepwalker: оказывается есть народ, который держит в редиске 160 gb
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[20:29:17] огыешсук: ну не в свопе ж всё
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[20:34:55] deepwalker: ну там типа виртуальная память в редиске же, вот интересно на каком объеме реальной памяти крутится
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[20:42:38] pr0ks: А ничего не слышно насчет планов введения поддержки джангой NoSQL бд?
[20:42:52] pr0ks: Вообще стоит ли ждать этого в ближайший год..
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[20:48:24] deepwalker: зачем ждать?
[20:48:38] deepwalker: ввести : )
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[20:56:27] pr0ks: Дык хочется из коробки и с поддержкой всех contrib аппликух
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[21:32:27] deepwalker: ну тогда придется ждать, когда захочется кому то другому : )
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[22:08:33] gigimon: что лучше взять, тп-линк или д-линк?
[22:08:37] gigimon: выбираю дешевый гигабитный свитч
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[22:18:56] gigimon: ну тп-лтнк тож непонятное
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[22:22:26] deepwalker: да ладно, в качестве нуправляхи и длинк работает
[22:22:59] deepwalker: надо глянуть только, сколько у него пропускная способность на железку
[22:23:12] deepwalker: тянет ли он реально все свои гигабиты
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