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[02:01:56] : mishok13 установил(а) тему: Python.SU | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи на google.com | За голосом - в приват к модераторам | Код постить в dumpz.org | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://➡.ws/pu | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Третий тупой вопрос за сутки — на http://throwcatch.me
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[08:35:16] _lorien: c) ensure you include the website link on post coupon page to be no follow
подскажите как ето перевести, плиз
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[09:56:57] KarDer is now Брутальный взрыв... Без гонора, без лжи и без стратегий, без пафоса, без фарса, без привилегий
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[09:58:49] KarDer: Уважаемы, подскажите.... Во всех браузэрах перестал показыватся редактор написаный походу на аджакс, может на чём-то другом, но факт в том что он тупо не показывается, вместо него простое поле для ввода текста, на других компах всё ОК и всё функционирует.
[09:59:00] Lispython: def node._get_child_candidates(self, distance, min_dist, max_dist)
[09:59:13] Lispython: это в третьей версии появился такой синтаксис?
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[10:03:16] piranha: бррр
[10:03:19] piranha: это ты где такое увидел?
[10:03:21] mishok13: нету там такого
[10:03:38] piranha: KarDer: тут питон вообще-то обсуждают...
[10:04:06] Lispython: piranha, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/231767/can-somebody-explain-me-this-python-yield-statement
[10:04:11] Lispython: вот наткнулся
[10:04:24] KarDer: piranha: Хорошо, проект в общем написан на питоне, на фремворке Джанго, и редактор тож от туда, что с ним?
[10:04:41] Typhon: Lispython: "def anobject.method(): pass is invalid syntax in Python" :)
[10:04:49] Typhon: первый коммент
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[10:05:10] Typhon: KarDer: http://motivpic.com/users_data/pics/1/50/original-na-xuj-eto-vooon-tuda.jpg
[10:05:15] Typhon: ^__^
[10:05:57] piranha: KarDer: к питону никакого отношения редакторы не имеют
[10:06:08] piranha: Lispython: какое-то животное написало походу )
[10:06:36] Lispython: piranha, понятно, сам офигел
[10:06:47] Lispython: Typhon, вижу, как-то я его пропустил
[10:07:05] Lispython: в ответах тоже такой синтаксис используют зачем-то
[10:07:08] Typhon: угу, комменты там порой не замечаешь
[10:07:25] piranha: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_TcQGY0BmGcc/S7yn6dozsoI/AAAAAAAAAQk/9L7dJtiVMpE/s1600/49097_giftfromlesbians.jpg
[10:07:28] Typhon: какие-то животные отвечают, походу
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[10:08:23] KarDer: )) бесполезная кучка самовлюблённых заточей )) удачки
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[10:08:50] piranha: ну и долбоëб
[10:09:04] piranha: удивляюсь таким
[10:09:24] mishok13: что вообще?
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[10:10:53] mishok13: qip.ru ок
[10:12:35] piranha: http://lucumr.pocoo.org/2010/4/12/werkzeug-0-6-1-and-jinja-2-4-released
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[10:12:53] _lorien: какие нервные то все )
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[10:26:08] piranha: http://html5test.com/
[10:26:12] piranha: 135 очков, кто больше?
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[10:28:51] Lispython: 137 :-)
[10:29:17] Lispython: у тебя лиса?
[10:29:27] Sevenov: 133
[10:29:30] Sevenov: эт чо, не понял?
[10:29:41] Sevenov: а, понел )
[10:29:43] piranha: фф
[10:29:53] Lispython: THE HTML5 TEST – HOW WELL DOES YOUR BROWSER SUPPORT HTML5?
[10:29:56] piranha: ой, хром у меня )
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[10:30:11] Lispython: тогда непонятно и у меня хром
[10:30:13] _lorien: 137 )
[10:30:26] Sevenov: у меня ваще старенький хром.
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[10:30:44] Sevenov: http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/python/90731/#comment_2735903 о, накалякл.
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[10:30:53] piranha: ну, я мож не обновлял давно
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[10:31:05] piranha: Sevenov: да, вот это всë в тему
[10:31:08] xa4a: у меня в фф - 101
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[10:31:13] xa4a: а на капекашечке - 100
[10:31:19] piranha: Opera Mini for the iPhone released fior free in the app store
[10:31:21] piranha: гыгыгыгы
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[10:32:10] Sevenov: piranha, похоже, у меня раздвоение личности. Или может просто устаю за день. Вот реально два разных человека %]
[10:32:20] piranha: :)
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[10:32:51] nmk: а ff 3.7a4 кто-нибудь юзает? :)
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[10:33:28] piranha: Lispython: а, понятно в чëм тема
[10:33:37] piranha: у тебя хром, а у меня хромиум - нету мп3 и h.264
[10:34:30] Lispython: что есть "глубокие формы"?
[10:34:35] piranha: Another huge change is the support for module loaders now. This makes it possible to precompile templates into standard Python modules and put them into a .zip file or folder on the filesystem. This allows you to compile templates in advance and upload them to Google's AppEngine or a production server to remove load.


[10:34:37] piranha: оляляляля!
[10:34:43] piranha: Lispython: щас покажу кот
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[10:35:10] piranha: http://paste.in.ua/586/
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[10:35:32] piranha: Lispython: ^
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[10:36:52] mishok13: """есть попсовая Ubuntu — зачем что-то другое когда эта почти идеальна?.."""
[10:36:53] mishok13: ахаххахахха лол
[10:37:11] mishok13: (ответственно заявляю как пользователь убунту)
[10:37:38] Ляпатяпа: и что?
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[10:37:51] Ляпатяпа: ответь ему как пользователь убунту
[10:37:55] Ляпатяпа: покорми тролля
[10:37:57] Lispython: piranha, ну грубо говоря, когда есть одинаковые поля, которые могут использоваться отдельно так и в составе другой формы?
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[10:38:14] piranha: Lispython: у контакта может быть много адресов
[10:38:20] mishok13: у меня нету аккаунтов на хабре
[10:38:22] piranha: каждый адрес - это N полей
[10:38:43] piranha: джанговские формы предлагают тебе пойти запилиццо об дверь в таких случаях
[10:38:50] Lispython: ах вот как
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[10:40:53] mishok13: http://xkcd.com/726/
[10:41:24] Lispython: piranha, ну ведь не проблема подключить WTForms или insanities?
[10:41:31] piranha: и сваргу тоже
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[10:41:35] piranha: и алхимию заюзать
[10:41:39] piranha: и веркцойг вместо урлов
[10:41:40] Lispython: :-D
[10:41:50] piranha: ой, s/сваргу/джинджу/
[10:41:57] piranha: и получишь сваргу в конце-концов
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[10:43:21] piranha: блин
[10:43:26] piranha: почему clojure на джаве? :(((
[10:43:30] Ляпатяпа: с и18н решили что-то?
[10:43:35] Ляпатяпа: в сварке
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[10:43:51] piranha: у джинджи есть и18н
[10:43:52] mishok13: piranha, а что не так?
[10:43:55] piranha: но мы сами ничо не юзали
[10:43:57] mishok13: JIT на шару
[10:44:02] piranha: mishok13: jvm сцуко не люблю
[10:44:10] mishok13: альтернативы?
[10:44:13] piranha: стартует 5 лет
[10:44:17] mishok13: ну, кроме mono
[10:44:22] mishok13: который сам по себе хуже
[10:44:29] piranha: хз, остальные маленькие и недопиленные :(
[10:44:34] mishok13: ну вот и всё
[10:44:35] piranha: паррот, ллвм
[10:44:37] piranha: pypy!
[10:44:42] Sevenov: mishok13, а чо? Я юзаю бубунту уже 2 недели и всё заебок.
[10:44:49] mishok13: llvm для динамических ЯП как-то эээ
[10:44:50] piranha: Sevenov: убунту уг
[10:45:06] piranha: mishok13: ну ладно, ладно, нет альтернатив, но всë равно плохо
[10:45:08] piranha: v8
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[10:45:09] mishok13: пэррот уже даже от PyPy отстал
[10:45:14] mishok13: v8 хыхыхы
[10:45:18] mishok13: LuaJIT
[10:45:29] piranha: о, да, луаджит
[10:45:30] mishok13: но они под один ЯП заточены
[10:45:35] mishok13: под одну семантику
[10:45:40] piranha: jvm в принципе тоже
[10:45:48] mishok13: в jvm большие изменения
[10:45:56] mishok13: догоняют .NET
[10:45:57] Sevenov: piranha, не, ну ты прикинь. Она красивая и работает. Внезапно, полностью реализует пои потребности.
[10:46:04] piranha: Sevenov: это наверное макось
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[10:46:07] mishok13: с его поддержкой динамических ЯП
[10:46:12] piranha: ты просто не просëк
[10:46:18] Sevenov: piranha, не, убунта, инфа 100%.
[10:46:26] piranha: mishok13: ну ладно, действительно всë плохо, но всë равно жаль
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[10:46:41] mishok13: мы один vm таки забыли
[10:46:43] piranha: меня это отвращает от кложуры чо-та
[10:46:45] piranha: какой?
[10:46:46] mishok13: эрланговский
[10:46:47] mishok13: !
[10:46:50] piranha: а, кстати да
[10:46:53] piranha: но он тормоз
[10:47:02] mishok13: зато скейлится бесплатно :)
[10:47:03] Sevenov: mishok13, шо? Эрланговский?
[10:47:19] Sevenov: там с числами всё очень плачевно.
[10:47:39] mishok13: он и не для чисел, собсна
[10:47:42] piranha: mishok13: от радости :D тормозит, зато распределëнно
[10:47:46] Typhon: щитай фортраном числа
[10:47:46] Sevenov: mishok13, ну да.
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[10:48:01] Sevenov: mishok13, забыли еще смоллтолковский вм.
[10:48:08] Sevenov: ВМы.
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[10:48:11] Typhon: или http://github.com/jacknyfe/ocaml-erlang-port !
[10:48:13] mishok13: бхыхыхы
[10:48:19] Typhon: смолток, спасибо. поблевал ^_^
[10:48:30] mishok13: ocaml кстати, на эрланг похож по семантике
[10:48:51] mishok13: правда, конструкций в языке для конкурентности там кот наплакал
[10:48:56] Typhon: jocaml ?
[10:48:57] Sevenov: Typhon, ведро подставил или таки на клаву сблевал?
[10:49:06] Typhon: Sevenov: метафизически
[10:49:17] Sevenov: erjang - хавалка .beam'ов на jvm.
[10:49:45] Sevenov: Typhon, так не интересно. Куда веселее блевать как в s14e02 South Park.
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[10:51:57] mishok13: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eYSpIz2FjU
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[10:56:05] mishok13: все в шоке, что-ли?
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[10:56:39] piranha: а шо там?
[10:56:51] Typhon: :) в трудном ребенке, помнится, было жоще
[10:56:59] Typhon: на карусельках
[10:57:08] mishok13: ооо, да
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[11:00:17] Sevenov: о, тоже годное видео.
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[11:00:44] piranha: mishok13: какой-то ад
[11:00:45] piranha: ппц
[11:01:04] piranha: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk-sQky_CuA
[11:01:06] mishok13: я время от времени пересматриваю
[11:01:07] piranha: вот это реально тема
[11:01:12] piranha: "идите есть, сало остывает"
[11:01:13] mishok13: и меня КАЖДЫЙ РАЗ нагребает
[11:01:17] mishok13: реально ржу в голос
[11:01:33] piranha: ))))
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[11:01:44] piranha: mishok13: пасатри мою сцылку лучше
[11:01:50] mishok13: щас посмотрю
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[11:05:48] Sevenov: mishok13, ты про блевотину?
[11:06:02] mishok13: да
[11:06:06] Sevenov: Это, кстати, мне напомнил пхп, джангу и коммьюнити обоих инструментов.
[11:06:22] Sevenov: Но меня вдео накрыло. Щяс пойду по улице цеплять страшных девок.
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[11:06:43] Sevenov: Так, бля, я ж опаздываю. Дома еще оО
[11:06:53] Typhon: piranha: рвет))
[11:06:56] piranha: уволен
[11:07:03] piranha: Typhon: выучил русский?!
[11:07:07] piranha: а теперь сиди забывай!
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[11:07:11] Typhon: piranha: сижу забываю :D
[11:07:14] piranha: :)))
[11:07:16] piranha: сало ешь? )
[11:07:19] piranha: гггг
[11:07:41] Typhon: сало не ем кстати
[11:07:44] Typhon: остыло :D
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[11:08:15] piranha: =))))
[11:09:53] mishok13: ШО
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[12:57:01] deepwalker: Sevenov, оригинально : ) как кстати картинки хранишь?
[12:57:56] Sevenov: deepwalker, ты о чем? :)
[12:58:02] deepwalker: о мегя проекте
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[12:58:14] deepwalker: где там картинка и три ссылки
[12:59:03] piranha: шо за мегя?
[12:59:13] Sevenov: deepwalker, нипаняяятна.
[12:59:28] Sevenov: piranha, мб. мега?
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[13:00:19] deepwalker: http://semenov.homedns.org/
[13:00:42] deepwalker: или это не твой?
[13:01:34] piranha: Семëновых - их как Соловьëвых )
[13:01:35] Sevenov: лоло, не мой :)
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[13:02:36] Sevenov: html source:

>style="color: green"
>class='post' data-post-id='147'
[13:02:41] Sevenov: Нет, это точно не я.
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[13:10:25] deepwalker: расплодилось понимаешь
[13:11:06] deepwalker: но ресурс то знаковый - тренд на ближайшее десятилетие. Просто, функционально, удобно : )
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[13:11:51] Lispython: а в чём собственно трэнд?
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[13:12:58] piranha: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URR--H97sYQ&fmt=18
[13:13:04] piranha: amazing horse omg lol
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[13:15:21] alafin: Если кому-то интересно есть работа
[13:15:32] alafin: в компании UAProm
[13:15:44] mishok13: Мыкола, ты?
[13:15:46] mishok13: ;)
[13:15:50] alafin: мы набираем дополнительно штат
[13:15:51] alafin: )))
[13:15:57] alafin: нет, это не Мыкола))
[13:16:01] mishok13: да я понял
[13:16:08] cutwater: alafin, город?
[13:16:11] mishok13: Киев
[13:16:12] alafin: Киев
[13:16:16] cutwater: :(
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[13:16:45] alafin: но я сам перебрался в Киев
[13:16:51] mishok13: это Колина идея в pythonua народ на УАПром вытягивать?
[13:17:00] alafin: совместная))
[13:17:14] alafin: если кому интересно то http://blog.smartweb.com.ua/2010/03/python.html
[13:17:37] mishok13: передай ему, что его движок для рутинга переписан
[13:17:47] mishok13: и Тарасу передай, что мы его геокодинг переписали!
[13:18:04] Lispython: :-D
[13:19:07] alafin: уже передал
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[13:19:09] alafin: ))
[13:19:10] mishok13: вообще, я бы даже подумал, но блин, ехать на бориспольскую с новобеличей это ад
[13:19:41] alafin: а ты попробуй))
[13:19:45] alafin: это так весело
[13:19:46] alafin: ))
[13:19:50] Typhon: mishok13: " отличные знания DHTML/CSS/Javascript" ?!?!?!
[13:19:58] mishok13: Typhon, ой, да я тебя прошу
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[13:20:35] mishok13: в описании вакансии на мою текущую позицию было написано minimum 3 years of experience with Python
[13:20:51] mishok13: я к тому времени аж целый год программистом проработал
[13:20:56] mishok13: так что это всё условно
[13:21:08] alafin: тут действительно все условну
[13:21:19] alafin: главное чтобы человек понимающий в Python был
[13:21:21] Typhon: но по ссылке вакансия на разработчиа клиентской веб морды, я так понял
[13:21:31] Typhon: *чика
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[13:21:50] mishok13: вообще, под руководством Коли поработать -- полезная практика
[13:21:57] alafin: задачи разные
[13:22:03] alafin: не только веб морда
[13:22:36] Sevenov: >UAProm
Прочет Porn и было обрадовался уже.
[13:22:43] alafin: ))
[13:22:52] Typhon: Sevenov: я ждал, когда это кто-то скажет
[13:23:12] Sevenov: Typhon, ну а кто еще может это сказать? Только я, блин.
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[13:23:42] alafin: да, кстати, недавно Коля интервью на девелоперсе давал
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[13:24:26] alafin: если кому-то интересно почитать интервью http://www.developers.org.ua/archives/max/2010/04/12/prom-ua-startup/
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[13:25:37] alafin: В общем если кто-то заинтересовался просьба присылать свои резюме
[13:25:44] piranha: думаю, что интервью уже все видели :)
[13:25:49] alafin: ))
[13:26:02] mishok13: вот закроется cloudmade, я тогда подумаю
[13:26:15] mishok13: на бориспольскую всяко ближе, чем в Одессу к Кашкину
[13:26:28] Typhon: mishok13: не выдержат конкуренции яндекса? ^_^
[13:26:35] alafin: А что Кашкин разве из Одессы?
[13:26:39] piranha: уже - да
[13:26:40] mishok13: переехал
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[13:26:46] alafin: в Яндекс?
[13:26:56] mishok13: Typhon, будут продолжать заниматься хуйней
[13:27:05] mishok13: конкуренции-то нету, в общем-то
[13:27:12] mishok13: у нас только metacarta в конкурентах
[13:27:49] mishok13: но сейчас просто три программиста занимаются сервисами, которые продаются
[13:27:56] mishok13: а всего в компании 23 человека
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[13:28:06] alafin: у нас уже почти 50
[13:28:10] Typhon: а остальные 20 чо?
[13:28:19] alafin: я уже точно сам не знаю
[13:28:19] mishok13: значит, два человека на суппорте
[13:28:24] alafin: я пришел 18 вроде бы как
[13:28:40] mishok13: полтора человека на ифон сдк и редакторе карт для ифона
[13:28:48] mishok13: еще два на флеш-редакторе
[13:29:05] piranha: alafin: ну так 50 человек - это ж в основном сейлзы всякие
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[13:29:10] mishok13: тестеры, менеджеры, CTO, два продакта, два сейла -- вот тебе и 23
[13:29:11] piranha: у вас сейлзы - это основа бизнеса
[13:29:33] mishok13: а, дизайнеров забыл указать
[13:29:55] огыешсук: /me . o 0 ("полтора человека на ифон сдк и редакторе карт для ифона" это на мотив сундука мертвеца стих формируете?)
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[13:30:02] alafin: с недавних пор у нас появились дизайнер и админ
[13:30:03] mishok13: последние полгода дизайнеры у нас рисуют презентахи для продактов
[13:30:13] mishok13: чтобы у инвесторов денег стыбрить :)
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[13:30:24] piranha: лол
[13:30:39] Typhon: http://roem.ru/2010/04/08/addednews14315/ -- здесь небольшой срачик про ОСМ, кстате
[13:30:49] mishok13: ойлол
[13:30:54] mishok13: народная карта это уссака
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[13:32:46] mishok13: забыли только лицензию получить на геодезическую деятельность
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[13:39:49] deepwalker: alafin, кстати, что делает админ?
[13:39:59] deepwalker: до этого сами с серверами возились?
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[13:41:18] alafin: наш админ серверами занимается
[13:41:27] deepwalker: а сейлесами кто? : )
[13:41:27] alafin: честно говоря я не особо вникаю в это
[13:41:34] deepwalker: ну интересно ж
[13:41:36] Sevenov: > админ серверами занимается
Странно как-то.
[13:41:40] alafin: )))))
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[13:41:50] deepwalker: а должен главному сейлеру аську ставить
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[13:53:56] xa4a: как бы получить даты начала и конца n-й недели в году? datetime.strptime("%w %Y %W", "1 2010 15") для 15-й не хочет.. ValueError: time data '%w %Y %W' does not match format '1 2010 15'
[13:53:58] xa4a: чяднт?
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[13:55:03] xa4a: написано в мане # When used with the strptime() method, %U and %W are only used in calculations when the day of the week and the year are specified.
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[13:57:05] xa4a: а
[13:57:35] xa4a: там сначала строка, а потом формат надо ><
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[14:05:29] Lispython: что-то ненайду, а в торнадо есть мидлвари какие-нибудь?
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[15:26:01] deepwalker: http://ritconf.ru/abstracts/500.html
[15:26:17] deepwalker: давайте срочно быдлокодить!
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[15:43:03] deepwalker: рит всегда такой унылый?
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[15:55:18] Sevenov: deepwalker, рит по определению унылый
[15:55:23] Sevenov: как и 99% it конф.
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[16:39:35] deepwalker: http://github.com/franzinc/cl-python есть профит от него?
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[16:42:05] Sevenov: deepwalker, Cl же вроде бы медленный. Не?
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[16:42:37] deepwalker: ну оно еще и на кложуре пашет вроде
[16:42:43] piranha: common lisp медленный?!
[16:42:51] piranha: ты шо, с дуба рухнул?
[16:42:56] deepwalker: да медленный же
[16:43:01] deepwalker: я презентацию смотрел
[16:43:03] piranha: а си не медленный случаем?
[16:43:06] deepwalker: не
[16:43:11] piranha: чойта?
[16:43:16] piranha: у них скорость ничо так, похожа
[16:43:43] deepwalker: piranha, ну я смотрел презентацию - стобы cl работал как C там надо много оптимизаций включать, в коде
[16:44:18] piranha: ну такое
[16:44:24] piranha: всë равно он ни разу не медленный
[16:44:41] Typhon: в пфп последнем была статья про cl на стероидах
[16:44:44] deepwalker: ну haskell по идее шустрее
[16:44:53] deepwalker: должен быть
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[16:45:36] deepwalker: я так понял, что сложности с динамичностью в лиспе - много проверок
[16:46:06] deepwalker: от этого и тормоза в сравнении с С и прочими. Но можно проверки отключать, типа мы точно знаем, что там инт
[16:46:15] deepwalker: не так?
[16:46:23] piranha: ну да, что-то типа того
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[18:32:25] gigimon: товарищи
[18:32:34] Sevenov: gigimon, R!
[18:32:36] gigimon: знатоки mysql, можео ли сдампить базу по префиксу?
[18:33:07] Sevenov: А. Нет, не я.
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[19:48:34] Большой Лис: rabbit tech (rabbitmq) acquired by springsoure/vmwareI
[19:48:36] Большой Лис: гм
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[19:50:07] огыешсук: так давно вроде уж
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[20:04:55] deepwalker: та не
[20:05:04] deepwalker: только сегодня вроде писали
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[22:59:14] xa4a: есть какой-то Ъ-туториал по jsp? ><
[22:59:27] xa4a: (можно в приват, чтобы не палиться)
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[23:03:16] Большой Лис: ггг
[23:03:27] Большой Лис: xa4a: чож тебя так нелёгкая занесла?
[23:03:35] k-dus is now m
[23:03:58] k-dus: всем привет, как можно в линуксе несколько версий питона поставить?
[23:04:07] xa4a: k-dus: смотря в каком
[23:04:17] k-dus: дебиан
[23:04:30] xa4a: Большой Лис: та тут всё тот же учебный центр. на шару жабе учат, которые
[23:05:37] Большой Лис: k-dus: apt-get install python2.4 python2.5 python2.6
[23:05:49] Большой Лис: в ленни 2.6 нету
[23:05:57] Большой Лис: есличо
[23:06:14] k-dus: 2.5 стоит уже, я про то как поставить 2.6 ниче не сломав
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[23:06:33] k-dus: если apt-get install python2.6, то ниче не сломается в системе?
[23:10:41] Большой Лис: нет
[23:11:12] k-dus: ясно, спасибо )
[23:11:17] alecs is now online
[23:11:19] Большой Лис: [kron@s12 ~]$ python2.5 -V
Python 2.5.4
[kron@s12 ~]$ python2.6 -V
Python 2.6.4

[23:11:28] Большой Лис: и всё путём
[23:12:30] k-dus: а если просто python ввести какой из них запустится?
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[23:13:01] Большой Лис: дефолтовый
[23:13:02] Большой Лис: ;)
[23:13:20] k-dus: хы
[23:13:35] Большой Лис: [kron@s12 ~]$ ls -la `which python`
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 2009-12-14 20:57 /usr/bin/python -> python2.6
[23:13:53] k-dus: 2.6 значит
[23:14:08] Большой Лис: а вообще это update-alternatives задаётся
[23:14:13] Большой Лис: ну в убунте 2.6
[23:14:22] Большой Лис: в ленни 2.5
[23:15:16] Большой Лис: гм
[23:15:17] Большой Лис: нет
[23:15:24] Большой Лис: не alternatives, хехе
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[23:20:42] xa4a: use gentoo
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[23:22:59] Большой Лис: типо, вместо того что бы просто изменить симлинк, иди и ибись с хентай!
[23:23:00] Большой Лис: хыхы
[23:23:11] Большой Лис: k-dus: иди! и пусть тебе будет стыдно
[23:24:56] k-dus: с генту я не работал и желания нет особо )
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[23:27:06] Sevenov: k-dus, во FreeBSD всё очень просто.
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[23:33:08] k-dus: вы лучше скажите какой веб сервер использовать в связке с джанго )
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[23:34:13] k-dus: пока что настроил через factcgi+flup+lighttpd, как доках описано, но не думаю что это сильно производительный вариант
[23:35:00] deepwalker: uwsgi попробуй
[23:35:22] deepwalker: по тестам неплох
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[23:37:06] k-dus: а сами не пробовали настраивать?
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[23:37:33] slav0nic: не, проще посоветовать же)
[23:38:06] xa4a is now online
[23:38:40] xa4a: а кто-то сталкивался с тем, что апач не выдерживал нагрузку?
[23:38:52] xa4a: не на тестах
[23:38:54] Sevenov: xa4a, не думаю.
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[23:39:30] Sevenov: нагрузку мог не выдержать сервер, конкретно сам демон работает отлично, хоть, порой, и медленно.
[23:39:42] Sevenov: может сожрать проца, оперативы.
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[23:49:55] k-dus: uwsgi не захотел компилится
[23:50:07] k-dus: ошибку нашел в исходнике
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