[00:25:01] pzskc383: ну, есть его gravatar
[00:25:13] pzskc383: если они не солят хеши, можно вытянуть мыло
[00:25:24] pzskc383: со временем
[00:27:34] Хрюндель: pzskc383, это случайный граватар, по нику.. я емэйл не требую при регистрации
[00:28:07] Хрюндель: Только его айди остался в базе.. сижу смотрю и плачу..
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[09:36:51] mishok13: пипец, пиранья на исландцев работает
[09:37:49] wiz_: в CCP?
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[09:38:26] wiz_z: кто-нибудь, кик wiz плз
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[09:41:13] wiz_z: test
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[09:47:42] lievil: Подскажите, может кто нибудь знает — как объединить простой gmail и gmail из google apps?
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[09:49:44] wiz: from gmail import merge
merge('old@gmail.com', 'new@yourdomain.ru')
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[09:49:54] wiz: или что значит "объединить"?
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[09:50:33] lievil: да
[09:50:34] lievil: вроде того
[09:50:52] lievil: чтобы в гугл апс были фильтры ,тэги и содержимое
[09:51:01] lievil: и docs скопировался
[09:51:09] lievil: или объединился
[09:51:51] mishok13: никак
[09:52:15] lievil: сволоча (
[09:52:37] wiz: !pydoc gdata
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[09:53:01] wiz: http://code.google.com/p/gdata-python-client/
[09:54:09] lievil: предлагаешь напистаь дампер?
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[09:54:47] wiz: что тебя смущает?
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[09:54:57] lievil: ну
[09:55:02] lievil: то что я потреяю много времени
[09:55:08] lievil: создавая дампер заливальщик
[09:55:12] lievil: со всей структурой
[09:55:19] lievil: у меня там тонна документов и картинок
[09:55:19] deepwalker: хе, ты же получишь много фана!
[09:55:30] deepwalker: и уважуху от других пацанов
[09:55:31] lievil: мне вот в акад надо ехать
[09:55:58] lievil: убеждать их что меня должны были отключить 4 года назад и что не правильно начислять за эти 4 года долг
[09:56:07] lievil: вот это фан )
[09:56:44] deepwalker: да, это тоже фан - можно орать и топать ногами : )
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[10:00:26] lievil: )
[10:00:34] lievil: )
[10:00:50] lievil: 4 года назад им звонили, сказали что когда денег не будет на счете отключат
[10:00:58] lievil: и вроде уже отключили
[10:01:06] lievil: в офис никто не поехал договор расторгать
[10:01:20] wiz: молодцы, хороший бизнес
[10:01:22] lievil: и потом через 4 года звонки пошли
[10:01:59] piranha: гг, шарят
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[10:03:46] lievil: угу
[10:03:49] lievil: молодцы , да
[10:03:57] lievil: спецом проверил все свои старые аккаунты
[10:04:06] mishok13: так все делают
[10:04:08] lievil: корбина, стрим.
[10:04:11] lievil: выключены услуги
[10:04:22] lievil: у корбины -0.04 рубля
[10:04:25] mishok13: отличный способ вести прибыльную бухгалтерию
[10:04:29] lievil: у стрима сотня
[10:04:33] mishok13: или убыточную, когда надо
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[10:27:45] nmk: piranha: попробуй mixero под iphone :)
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[10:29:22] piranha: nmk: эх, лучше б ты жаббер клиент подсказал :)
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[10:29:46] nmk: ну я смотрел когда себе под ipod, мой вердикт был все говно какое-то :)
[10:29:55] piranha: :-)))
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[10:30:01] piranha: жаббер-клиенты под ипод в смысле?
[10:30:03] piranha: да, все ужасные
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[10:31:04] piranha: nmk: хезе, меня твити устраивает с головой :-)
[10:32:13] nmk: ну, интересен твой фидбек по миксеро ;)
[10:32:57] piranha: хммм
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[10:33:08] piranha: ок, я попробую, раз оно всë равно бесплатное
[10:33:24] nmk: угу. :)
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[11:13:34] deepwalker: слушайте, а вот блоги со статик генерацией есть, а нет интернет-магазина? Ну каталога по сути
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[11:15:30] piranha: ну я думаю кеши для них есть
[11:15:34] piranha: но у магазина всë равно бекенд нужен
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[11:17:22] tilarids: piranha: если в магазине способ покупки через call us, то не нужен :)
[11:17:38] deepwalker: во во
[11:17:41] deepwalker: мне такой вариант
[11:17:58] piranha: хыхы
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[11:18:20] piranha: deepwalker: ты можешь взять любой статик-сайт генератор и сверху на нëм сделать
[11:18:21] deepwalker: вот думаю писать с нуля или пошукать
[11:18:30] piranha: в том же сайраксе никакой особой поддержки блога нету
[11:18:37] piranha: и во всяких nanoc тоже
[11:18:42] piranha: webby, опять же
[11:18:47] piranha: вот джекилл - да, он заточен
[11:18:56] deepwalker: да я думаю статику содрать и со сварги не проблема
[11:19:15] deepwalker: хоть вгетом
[11:19:37] piranha: ага
[11:19:45] piranha: та ты можешь мидлварь прикрутить
[11:19:52] piranha: которая тебе будет статику издавать при запросах
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[11:20:04] piranha: и потом нгинксом отдавать статику, если есть, или динамику, если статики нету
[11:21:06] tilarids: проще и правильней будет готовые хтмлки отдавать
[11:21:11] deepwalker: да у нас тут просто сложность с Томском нашим - тут есть сетка внутренняя
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[11:21:20] tilarids: лишняя морока и лишние ресурсы с этими мидлварями
[11:21:22] deepwalker: и куча народу за внешку не лазит
[11:21:37] deepwalker: а хостинг внутренний нереально убогий
[11:22:00] deepwalker: на него динамику ставит стремно, только если колокол
[11:22:22] piranha: tilarids: +1
[11:22:23] deepwalker: ну так вот ради колюс я с этим возиться не хочу
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[11:26:05] _lorien: про чо сырбор?
[11:26:07] _lorien: я позавчера трахался со static-generator :)
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[11:26:23] _lorien: у него нету режима - кэшировать всё, запрещать по списку, пришлось свою middleware набросать.
[11:26:49] deepwalker: у кого?
[11:27:01] _lorien: у django-static-generator - у официальной ветки
[11:27:10] _lorien: там ещё форки всякие, там вроде тож нету
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[11:27:51] огыешсук: а обычный "джанго кеш всего на свете для анонимусов" разве не работает?
[11:28:01] _lorien: работает, но медленней
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[11:28:19] _lorien: в случае static-generator управление до бэкенда *вообще* не доходит
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[11:28:50] огыешсук: А как оно различает анонимуса от неанонимуса? На уровне апача по куке?
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[11:29:44] _lorien: А вот этого тоже нету в офиц. ветке, но в клонах есть и там сделали настройку, чтобы кэшировать только для анонимусов. Но мне было пофиг т.к. проект не направлен на работу с юзверями.
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[11:30:37] _lorien: Наверное, да, по куке.
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[11:31:56] _lorien: Ну т.е. это уже не проблема статик-генератора, это проблема админа веб-сервера %)
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[11:34:28] _lorien: http://www.alrond.com/ru/2008/feb/23/static-generator-pro/ вот более трушный вариант статик-генератора, там есть настройка для списка исключаемых путей и пример конфига-нгинкса, где кэш тока для анонимусов отдаётся.
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[11:39:24] pit: привет всем
[11:39:31] cutwater: привет
[11:39:49] pit: у меня вопрос по поводу ввода параметров через командную строку:
[11:39:53] огыешсук: bye
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[11:40:36] pit: python /my.py <мои_параметры>
[11:40:45] cutwater: и в чем проблема?
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[11:41:26] mishok13: optparse, getopt, argparse
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[11:41:58] cutwater: mishok13: телепат? :)
[11:42:03] pit: http://python.su/forum/viewtopic.php?id=7124
[11:42:04] _lorien: sys.argv
[11:42:16] огыешсук: тут у каждого по своему велосипеду на эту тему, оригинальной конструкцмм
[11:42:16] mishok13: cutwater, 12-ый уровень
[11:42:22] mishok13: это не велосипеды
[11:42:24] mishok13: это stdlib
[11:42:26] pit: последний скрипт рр только в консоле
[11:42:49] pit: а сам сквид если запрашивать не отробатывает
[11:42:54] cutwater: mishok13: кстати а argparse разве уже в stdlib?
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[11:43:01] mishok13: 2.7/3.2
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[11:43:08] cutwater: круто
[11:43:10] pit: 2ю7
[11:43:13] cutwater: надо обновляться.
[11:43:25] _lorien: mishok13, похуй, всё равно твоя телепатия не удалась )
[11:43:31] mishok13: ага
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[11:43:45] cutwater: mishok13: кстати ты насколько я могу использовать argparse в своем проекте елси он под лицензией BSD/MIT скажем?
[11:43:58] cutwater: немного запутался в совместимости лицензий
[11:44:00] mishok13: а какая разница?
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[11:44:03] _lorien: а вообще я иногда юзаю sys.argv для наколенных скриптов из десяти строчек )
[11:44:08] mishok13: ты продавать код собираешься?
[11:44:16] cutwater: mishok13: нет
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[11:44:34] mishok13: ну так пока у тебя нету AGPL в коде можешь расслабить булки
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[11:46:11] _lorien: А если я хочу форкнуть проект под лицензией MIT. Как мне это сделать правильно?
Например, там есть файл LICENSE (с содержимым MIT лицензии) и в частности со строками:
Copyright (c) 2008 Jared Kuolt
а себя родимого тоже ведь хочу написать... рядышком писать что ли?
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[11:47:58] mishok13: ну, у тебя будет копирайт на все новые файлы/изменения
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[11:48:29] mishok13: но так как оригинальный копирайт всё равно у Jared'а этого, то лицензию ты поменять не можешь
[11:48:46] mishok13: можешь свои добавления лицензировать под MIT-совместимой лицензией
[11:49:52] огыешсук: А разве не можно распространять свои изменения под любой другой лицензией, в виде, скажем, патча?
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[11:50:21] mishok13: можешь, но это будет патч, несовместимый с кодом
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[12:53:48] огыешсук: /me . o 0 (как бы mod_wsgi на 2.6 смигрировать в lenny :o/)
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[12:58:09] Darth Лис: руками собери, чо
[12:58:33] Darth Лис: apt-get source libapache2-mod-wsgi
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[12:58:44] Darth Лис: подправь чо надо (что бы с 2.6 собиралось)
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[13:03:20] огыешсук: хм, может и правда собрать
[13:03:40] огыешсук: а то поддостаёт сидеть на 2.5 уже
[13:03:59] огыешсук: может ещё и на nginx до кучи перебраться с апачи
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[13:04:51] огыешсук: или nginx пока сырой в этом плане?
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[13:05:10] _lorien: в каком плане?
[13:05:17] огыешсук: в плане mod_wsgi
[13:06:51] _lorien: там mod_wsgi кривой, если обработка запроса повиснет, то все другие запросы к wsgi будут ждать пока отработает этот запрос.
[13:07:02] огыешсук: ужас какой
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[13:07:11] огыешсук: тогда уж лучше апачик, тот работает вроде
[13:07:21] _lorien: ну апачи + nginx фронтендом
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[13:08:59] Darth Лис: или вместо опача, какой нибудь cherry-py
[13:09:01] _lorien: ммм, или не только запросы к wsgi, а вообще *все* запросы %)
[13:10:03] _lorien: http://blog.dscpl.com.au/2009/05/blocking-requests-and-nginx-version-of.html вот статья где всё-всё разжёвано
[13:10:56] огыешсук: так то ж на год устарело уже
[13:11:05] огыешсук: мало ли, может уже пофиксили?
[13:11:53] _lorien: тогда б раструбили об этом везде уже )
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[13:14:55] kwis: гребаный провайдер
[13:15:03] kwis: не туда)))
[13:15:16] _lorien: Да правильно пишут,что не надо гонять за супербыстрым сервером, лучше приложение оптимизировать.
[13:15:31] _lorien: В частности, в этой статье :)
[13:16:02] Darth Лис: http://webplanet.ru/news/security/2010/04/22/mcafee_havoc.html
[13:16:05] Darth Лис: гыы
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[13:21:42] огыешсук: даже пофиксить уже успели
[13:21:57] огыешсук: а вообще -- те, кто юзает винду в важных местах -- ССЗБ
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[13:28:26] _lorien: блять, кто-то курит рядом и мне в форточку дым летит
[13:28:30] nmk: огыешсук: а че не uwsgi? он вроде прикольный такой
[13:29:35] _lorien: гм, забавно, я раньше смотрел его и тогда вроде не было для nginx модуля
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[13:30:08] nmk: да там есть какой-то. только не коробочный.
[13:30:20] nmk: в cherokee есть или как он там зовется ;)
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[13:36:11] _lorien: Прикольно, буду пробовать uwsgi ща ещё на форуме сагалаева спрошу, может, юзал кто
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[13:37:16] nmk: ну мне понравилось, что там релоаидть можно
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[13:37:54] _lorien: тоже через touch wsgi файла?
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[13:38:23] nmk: ээ. не. хотя может так тоже можно. я с месяц назад наверное доку смотрел, не помню уже.
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[13:39:01] огыешсук: _lorien: не забудь потом об успехах рассказать
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[13:44:40] piranha: http://gunicorn.org/
[13:44:43] piranha: вот это интересное
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[13:47:39] mishok13: боян же
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[13:50:55] Хрюндель: piranha, что то мне их диз напоминает linode
[13:51:17] piranha: пох
[13:51:20] piranha: это ж опенсорс
[13:51:35] piranha: даже если дизайн напоминает разорванную батарею, это не повод
[13:51:36] nmk: а чем интересное то?
[13:52:01] piranha: размножается форками, а не тредами
[13:52:09] piranha: Upgrade "àla nginx" without losing connections

[13:52:16] piranha: Decode chunked transfers on-the-fly, allowing upload progress notifications or stream-based protocols over HTTP
[13:52:26] piranha: isn't it nce?
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[13:52:47] Хрюндель: piranha, круто.. а в деле проверял?
[13:53:00] nmk: ну. первое так это вроде ж все уже умеют, второе есть в uwsgi, третье не уверен
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[13:53:07] piranha: нет есчо
[13:53:17] piranha: uwsgi хочет модуль для нгинкса, нет?
[13:53:25] nmk: угу. csgi или как-то так
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[13:53:39] piranha: ну так это уже причина его не юзать
[13:53:44] piranha: нгинкс перекомпиливать впадло
[13:53:56] mishok13: всё равно приходится
[13:53:57] piranha: и внедрять код, который хз насколько стабильный
[13:54:03] piranha: mishok13: мне пока нет :-)
[13:54:15] nmk: ну если есть плюсы, то я лучше перекомиплю нгинкс
[13:54:34] piranha: какие плюсы относительно уникорна?
[13:54:41] nmk: где-то ж была диаграмка с тестами на производительнсоть всего этого зоопарка
[13:54:45] nmk: плюсы. щас подумаю.
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[13:56:09] mishok13: piranha, я бы одну из критичных частей системы никогда бы не делал модной
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[13:56:24] mishok13: на gunicorn я буду смотреть через год, если им еще кто-то будет заниматься
[13:56:53] piranha: :-)))
[13:56:57] piranha: uwsgi - тоже модный
[13:56:59] Хрюндель: piranha, мне кажется это читается джаникорн
[13:57:04] mishok13: и у меня его и рядом нету
[13:57:11] piranha: ну вот и я юзаю черрипай
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[13:57:38] nmk: A shared memory area to share data between workers/processes.
ну, и там много всего на этом завязано. через жопу правда все сделано, но говорят, что работает
ну скажем, Message exchanging (via uwsgi protocol)

[13:57:42] nmk: ну и еще наверное что-то ;)
[13:57:59] piranha: та ну, завязываться на него
[13:58:01] nmk: визуально фич в uwsgi больше :)
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[13:58:13] piranha: это я про месседжи
[13:58:24] piranha: прикинь, шо будет, когда ты захочешь внедрить в систему что-то не на питоне?
[13:58:48] nmk: плохо будет. или прокси, или хз. :)
[13:59:34] nmk: плюс там есть "Fast Functions are a way to pratically cancel the overhead of the request parsing for content that does not need request data (method, uri, headers....). "
[13:59:58] piranha: бррр, шо?
[14:00:17] nmk: хотя на сколько оно дейсвтительно fast я не смог проверить. ;)
[14:00:19] nmk: http://projects.unbit.it/uwsgi/wiki/FastFuncs
[14:00:48] nmk: а потом в конфиге к scgi (или все таки как он зовется) прописываешь по какому урлу что вызывать.
[14:00:54] nmk: говорят, что типа быстрее :)
[14:00:56] nmk: но я хз
[14:01:16] piranha: это тупо всë бесполезно
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[14:01:31] piranha: потому что ты ж не будешь писать свои либы, правда?
[14:01:35] piranha: ты заюзаешь werkzeug, webob, django
[14:01:39] piranha: и это всë там бесполезно
[14:02:20] nmk: не, ну если надо какую-то заглушку сделать которая показывает точное время с точностью до микросекунд, то помоему самое оно. правда больше задач для этой херотени я не знаю. :)
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[14:02:55] slav0nic: а оно уже реально быстро работает?) раньше что-то гавняненьк оработало
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[14:03:15] nmk: да черт его знает. у меня нету реальных задач, что бы попробовать :)
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[14:03:48] nmk: но меня смущает, что там один чувак всё это пишет
[14:05:21] Sevenov: >[02:52:05 PM] piranha: какие плюсы относительно уникорна?
nginx проверенно работает с сотнями тысяч реальных юзеров.
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[14:06:49] Хрюндель: wiz, ты повышать скилсы по складывании бумажки 7 и более раз когда собираешься? Всего на четвёрку я смотрю освоил этот необходимый для жизни навык :)
[14:07:04] slav0nic: )
[14:07:09] _lorien: uwsgi сам приложение запускает, а в случае unicorn надо ручками обёртку-демон писать для каждого сайта
[14:07:27] _lorien: или не? я не знаю, чо там навертели в unicorn этом
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[14:08:04] nmk: http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/9991/getyourdailydoseofspark.jpg
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[14:16:42] wiz: видел одну деваху, она такие матрасы складывает ппц
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[14:19:30] wiz: http://pomonahistorical.org/12times.htm
[14:20:20] Sevenov: http://pornonahistorical.org/12times.htm
[14:20:48] wiz: pornoanalhistorical.org/12times.html :3
[14:21:10] slav0nic: Хрюндель, сайт переноси сукаван!
[14:21:16] slav0nic: сидит
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[14:21:43] _lorien: pornoanalhistooral.org/12times.html
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[14:28:58] огыешсук: а кто чем api в своих сайтах делает? а то есть django-json-rpc, есть github.com/flosch/simpleapi и ещё кучка
[14:30:29] wiz: RPC(**json.loads(query))
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[14:34:40] piranha: огыешсук: http://hg.piranha.org.ua/django-simplerest
[14:35:08] piranha: Sevenov: я не понял, при чëм здесь?
[14:35:18] piranha: в любом случае перед уникорном должен нгинкс висеть, нэ? :)
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[14:51:14] огыешсук: piranha: не, у вышеназванных django-json-rpc с simpleapi хотя бы доки есть
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[15:07:23] nmk: огыешсук: я wapi взял. только подхачиваю его иногда :)
[15:08:05] огыешсук: а у него над вышеуказанными какие есть преимущества?
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[15:08:44] nmk: а я не смотрел вышеназванные. и он не рест. :)
[15:09:02] nmk: и не разваивается :(
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[15:11:51] Sevenov: ой, он уже ушел
[15:11:53] Sevenov: пистон же есть.
[15:12:09] nmk: так пистон чисто под рест заточен, не?
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[15:12:58] Sevenov: ну а ему разве не restful api нужно?
[15:13:00] piranha: piston ужасен
[15:13:03] piranha: имха
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[15:13:11] Sevenov: он комбаен
[15:13:40] nmk: ну он не сказал, что ему нужно
[15:14:03] Sevenov: > а кто чем api в своих сайтах делает? а то есть django-json-rpc, есть github.com/flosch/simpleapi ...
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[15:14:12] Sevenov: тут по контексту можно догадаться. Не?
[15:14:22] nmk: ну json-rpc ни разу не рест ;)
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[15:14:38] огыешсук: simpleapi тоже ни разу
[15:15:04] nmk: мне wapi нравится тем, что там во "вьюшке" возвращается объект который потом сериализуется сериализатором, который ты указал для этого объекта. кому-то это не понравится.
[15:15:14] nmk: * для этого класса
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[15:18:57] огыешсук: ok, убедили, попробую ка django-simpleapi
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[16:30:49] wiz: ## HACK: hand-optimized bytecode; turn globals into locals
False=False,
True=True,
ValueError=ValueError,
....
o_O
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[16:39:14] wiz: кто писал энкодеры для JSON? как там в default отдать результат так, чтобы он это не как str (без кавычек), а в сыром виде выдал?
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[16:43:13] nmk: float не нравится? :)
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[16:43:36] wiz: чо?
[16:43:53] nmk: м.. да у меня не давно была заадча, что бы он float типа как decimal отдавал :)
[16:43:55] wiz: мне вообще надо new SomeObject(with, params) в выдаче получить
[16:44:18] wiz: return "new Blabla" то я сделаю, но ведь он так в кавычках и вернёт
[16:44:34] wiz: {foo: "new Blabla()"}
[16:44:40] wiz: а надо {foo: new Blabla()}
[16:45:03] nmk: м. я думаю никак
[16:45:19] nmk: только хаканьем
[16:45:36] nmk: погляди как он туда недавно decimal добавлял, вроде там исходники править придется.
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[16:46:38] piranha: wiz: он вернëт {"foo": "new Blabla()"}
[16:47:43] nmk: wiz: ну, вообще если ты отнаследуешься от какого-нить класа типа float, и там в __repr__ напишешь как тебе надо, то simplejson ничего делать с этим не должен, вернуть как есть.
[16:48:05] nmk: но хак. :)
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[16:48:15] wiz: хм
[16:49:43] piranha: кстати да, напиши свой класс, и ему хендлер
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[16:51:16] nmk: т.е. тебе надо отнаследоваться от чего, что он не загоняет в кавычки, в default проверить, что если твой объект пришел вернуть это что-то отнаследованное. и там в repr вывести как тебе надо.
[16:52:36] wiz: хертам
[16:52:49] wiz: он в итоге загоняет стринги в return '"' + str(ESCAPE_ASCII.sub(replace, s)) + '"'
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[16:53:06] nmk: хм. вообще должно работать. щас попробую пример написать
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[16:53:23] wiz: class Raw(unicode):
def __unicode__(self): return self

[16:53:29] wiz: имеет репр без кавычек
[16:53:31] wiz: но ему пох
[16:53:32] nmk: неее.
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[16:53:40] nmk: ты не понял. не от unicode наследуйся. от int, например
[16:54:15] wiz: invalid literal for int
[16:54:24] nmk: щас подожди 2 минуты
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[16:56:10] wiz: по-идее _iterencoder надо замещать, там вся эта ботва
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[16:56:26] wiz: тому що через float_repr хачить это вообще не дело
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[16:58:35] xa4a: {foo: new Blabla()}
[16:58:37] xa4a: это ж не json
[16:58:53] nmk: это верно
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[16:59:22] xa4a: а кто отменил eval() в js?
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[17:01:43] wiz: никто не отменял, мне тупо надо в определённом формате выдать
[17:02:06] nmk: wiz: да. наверное не получится этим хаком
[17:02:42] wiz: всё, сделал
[17:02:57] nmk: как?
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[17:03:47] nmk: я тоже сделал ;)
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[17:04:07] wiz: http://dumpz.org/18819/
[17:04:36] nmk: а я хаком http://paste.in.ua/628/ :)
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[17:05:16] nmk: у меня твой вариант не работает
[17:05:18] nmk: выводит в кавычках
[17:05:32] nmk: {"hello": "new StrannayaHuinya(111)"}
[17:06:29] wiz: а ты что ему суёшь туда?
[17:06:46] wiz: у меня фактически Raw(str(o))
[17:07:35] nmk: simplejson.dumps({'hello': Raw('new StrannayaHuinya(111)')}, cls=MyJSONEncoder)
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[17:08:19] wiz: хз. у меня просто json
[17:08:23] wiz: из 2.6
[17:08:30] nmk: у меня 2.5
[17:09:09] wiz: хотя с simple джанговским тоже выводит ок
[17:09:33] nmk: ну, я честно-честно не обманываю :)
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[17:11:28] wiz: хм... а как из дефолта что-нибудь ещё кроме str отдавать?..
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[17:11:36] wiz: list там какой-нибудь
[17:11:47] nmk: так list нормально отдасться и так
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[17:12:20] wiz: делаю return list(o) и ловлю TypeError
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[17:12:56] nmk: так этот o сериализуется им?
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[17:13:20] nmk: точнее o итерируется? :)
[17:13:38] wiz: ой не
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[17:15:34] wiz: во, другое дело
[17:15:45] wiz: /me пошёл дописывать ещё один пункт в резюме
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[17:24:50] alexrussia: if (Topik.objects.filter(categor=new.categor)): проверяю существует ли объекты если существуют то рендарю, но появляется ошибка что нет объектов в топике
[17:25:05] alexrussia: как задать правильно существует ли объекты ?
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[17:26:40] wiz: чем рендеришь?
[17:26:57] _lorien: .count()
[17:26:57] alexrussia: render_to_response
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[17:27:27] wiz: и какая ошибка?
[17:27:56] _lorien: NetObektovVTopikeAdinAdinAdin()
[17:28:01] alexrussia: lorien сейчас по пробую , при записях такой ошибки нету только при наличии пустой Topik вылетает ошибка
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[17:28:23] alexrussia: Topik matching query does not exist.
[17:28:32] _lorien: да я честно гря не понял ничего вообще так написал наугад )
[17:28:55] wiz: может ты .get делаешь?
[17:29:05] wiz: в каком месте ошибка срабатывает?
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[17:30:01] alexrussia: wiz при заходе браузером на страницу
[17:30:17] _lorien: alexrussia, не пробуй как я сказал, твой случай тоже должен работать для проверки существования топиков
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[17:30:23] Typhon: >_<
[17:30:25] _lorien: wiz, внезапно :)
[17:30:55] wiz: не, я пас (=
[17:31:00] alexrussia: пустой Topik, не записей , при полном топике , нет ошибки
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[17:31:15] alexrussia: *нет записей
[17:32:00] Typhon: метод лорьена точно сработает, инфастопроцентов!
[17:32:07] alexrussia: wiz ой ошибся да через get
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[17:32:27] _lorien: гы
[17:32:50] alexrussia: if (Topik.objects.get(categor=new.categor))
[17:32:52] _lorien: alexrussia, ну так а чего ты удивляешься? Это стандратное поведение метода get: выкинуть Exception если объект не найден
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[17:33:25] alexrussia: _lorien а как проверить существует ли объект или нету ?
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[17:33:34] _lorien: alexrussia, ну так ты и проверяешь
[17:33:57] wiz: alexrussia, get_object_or_404 тебя спасёт
[17:33:58] _lorien: если объекта нету, выскакивает exception
[17:34:02] wiz: а вообще туториал проходи
[17:34:02] _lorien: просто лови его
[17:34:58] _lorien: try:
Foo.objects.get()
no_topic = False
except Foo.DoesNotExist:
no_topic = True

или делай через if (Foo.objects.filter(..).count()):
[17:35:21] wiz: _lorien, лови его (=
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[17:37:15] alexrussia: _lorien wiz огромное спасибо все заработало
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[18:17:17] nuclearworm: http://docs.python.org только у меня не открывается?
[18:17:59] Typhon: нет
[18:18:01] Typhon: упало(
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[18:18:20] Typhon: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/docs.python.org
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[19:01:32] nmk: а никто нигде не встречал реализации for для jinja2? мне хочется туда одну плюшку воткнуть, а разбираться в исходниках for не хочется ;)
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[19:02:31] deepwalker: а что за плюшка то?
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[19:03:23] nmk: ну мне хитрожопо надо раставлять сепараторы между айтемами в выводе. хотя я наверное просто сделаю функцию и не буду разбираться с экстеншенами ;)
[19:04:16] gigimon: это, а мускул и постгрес нормально на 1 хосте могут работать?
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[19:06:39] deepwalker: gigimon, а чего б им
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[19:07:30] gigimon: ну мало ли
[19:07:36] gigimon: я вот тоже думаю, че им
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[19:07:46] gigimon: а то висит пара сайтов на вп
[19:07:51] gigimon: лень переводить их
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[19:22:55] _lorien: не, если вместе поставить, начиают бить индексы друг-другу, писать неприличные слова в кэш и так и норовят друг-дружку в своп спихнуть.
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[19:33:56] _lorien: кто-нить писал iframe-приложения для вконтакта, чё-то не могу с ручного тормоза сняться
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[19:54:23] deepwalker: Ну почему не OAuth?
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[19:57:12] _lorien: м?
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[19:57:56] deepwalker: почему VK не использует OAuth я имел ввиду
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[20:00:36] огыешсук: там разве не openid?
[20:01:17] deepwalker: openid же не дает доступа к API
[20:01:32] огыешсук: а, ну да
[20:02:05] огыешсук: а этот vk всё ещё актуален?
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[20:24:50] deepwalker: мне все родственницы юные на него указуют
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[20:25:37] deepwalker: фотоальбомы там, а главное - это же офигенный склад музыки : )
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[21:18:42] alexrussia: django.contrib.csrf.middleware.CsrfMiddleware' должен идти после sessionmiddleware и перед GZipMiddleware ?
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[21:29:40] wiz: смотри как в дефолтах
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[21:36:43] alexrussia: wiz в доках непонятно написано до или после gzip ставить в настройках ?
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[21:38:08] wiz: http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/settings/#middleware-classes
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[21:38:38] wiz: гзипать джангой не хочешь ты
[21:39:40] alexrussia: наоборот хочу
[21:40:31] deepwalker: wiz, забыл перед лицом махнуть видимо
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[21:43:25] alexrussia: wiz почему лучше через апач ?
[21:43:36] wiz: через nginx
[21:43:43] wiz: но и апач сойдёт тоже
[21:43:56] alexrussia: wiz через джангу тормозит ?
[21:44:34] wiz: ну ты сам подумай да
[21:45:33] alexrussia: wiz честно не знаю, я начинающий :)
[21:45:47] wiz: ну и не нужен тебе гзип вообще тогда
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