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[08:38:10] k-dus: как работать с консолью в линух? типа как с графикой, поокоординатно
[08:39:31] k-dus: на питоне
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[09:42:45] k-dus: уже нашел, спасибо )
[09:43:24] k-dus: а на винде curses интересно нормально работает?
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[10:48:52] stalkerg_work: тест
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[10:49:35] stalkerg_work: Всем доброго утра (у кого оно самое).
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[12:19:28] stalkerg_work: Тем кто в Москве работа нужна? Связанна с Django и преспективе Pylons. ^_^
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[12:20:00] wiz_: странная перспектива...
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[12:20:11] Darth Лис: :D
[12:20:28] wiz_: ты бы ещё после джанги предложил перспективу JBoss
[12:20:46] Darth Лис: похапэ
[12:20:48] stalkerg_work: Django устаревшая чтука после Pylons
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[12:20:55] wiz_: г
[12:20:59] Sevenov: stalkerg_work, то есть они уже представляют, как будут делать проект два года, потом срать кирпичами и переделывать на пилонсы.
[12:21:01] Sevenov: ?
[12:21:12] Sevenov: Это в ТЗ описано.
[12:21:29] wiz_: делать кирпич и срать проектами
[12:21:33] stalkerg_work: преспектива не по проекту а по занятости :)
[12:21:49] k-dus: если жильем обеспечите, перееду )))
[12:21:50] Sevenov: wiz_, он истину глаголит. Пилонсы - ок, джанга - говно.
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[12:22:12] wiz_: да всё говно
[12:22:15] wiz_: ок ещё не написали
[12:22:28] Sevenov: ок - это repoze.bfg
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[12:22:58] deepwalker: фууу
[12:23:32] deepwalker: Sevenov, а что не yaws?
[12:23:59] Sevenov: deepwalker, я вот тоже думаю перейти с велосипеда на красный цвет.
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[12:25:23] xa4a: а в киеве вот вообще сразу на зопу зовут. вообще без перспектив :\
[12:25:47] stalkerg_work: repoze.bfg - к слову интересная чтука
[12:25:59] deepwalker: о да, zope тоже
[12:26:12] stalkerg_work: ну в целом сейчас есть проект на Django и его надо мучить... баги править и прочее.
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[12:28:08] Sevenov: xa4a, на зопу посылают, а не зовут :)
[12:28:31] Sevenov: > и его надо мучить
Лол. Не его мучить, а он тебя.
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[12:30:40] stalkerg_work: Sevenov: с этим соглашусь
[12:30:54] xa4a: !voice belegnar
[12:31:02] stalkerg_work: тем более достаточно грязный код :(
[12:31:17] Sevenov: в джанге? Ну, грязноват чуток, да.
[12:31:31] Sevenov: а проект, как я понял, тоже django-way :D
[12:32:04] belegnar: xa4a: thx!
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[12:32:29] belegnar: с утром всем =)
[12:32:43] belegnar: вопрос: как получить форму, наследующую несколько форм, которые в свою очередь наследники ModelForm?
есть несколько моделей: User, Guest, Player; на каждую модель есть форма UserForm, GuestForm, PlayerForm
если я просто объявляю class NewForm(UserForm, GuestForm, PlayerForm), то NewForm().fields содержит только поля первой формы.
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[12:33:24] Sevenov: >содержит только поля первой формы.
Да, я про это забыл упомянуть на девконфе.
[12:33:32] xa4a: хм
[12:33:38] Sevenov: belegnar, посмотри в 1.2, может там добавили абстрактные формы.
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[12:34:34] Sevenov: фишка в том (ящитаю), что говна метакласс форм не пробегается по базовым классам, только по одному.
[12:34:39] Sevenov: ну хз
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[12:36:52] xa4a: /me где-то делал нормальное такое наследование моделформ.. вот только не помню где. ищу..
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[12:39:09] xa4a: а, нет. мне приснилось, похоже
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[12:42:21] Sevenov: http://github.com/jacobian/django/blob/master/django/forms/forms.py#L25
[12:42:29] belegnar: Sevenov: в мане вроде нету ничего похожего, да и в релиз ноутс не было
[12:42:39] Sevenov: > if hasattr(base, 'base_fields'):
> fields = base.base_fields.items() + fields
[12:42:42] Sevenov: всё есть
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[12:43:13] Sevenov: ты смотри не в Form().fields, а Form().base_fields
[12:43:54] Sevenov: То есть выставляешь в Meta with_base_fields = True и сразу всё ок.
[12:44:05] Sevenov: наверное.
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[12:44:57] stalkerg_work: Sevenov: это вы про автоформы из ORM?
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[12:47:52] belegnar: Sevenov: хо-хо, она хочет в Meta model тогда
жуть какая
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[12:51:12] Sevenov: stalkerg_work, а, да. Это же джанга. NIH даёт о себе знать.
[12:51:17] Sevenov: belegnar, какой бред >_<
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[13:32:30] Darth Лис: а как лучше написать?

@property
def foo(self):
if hasattr(self, '_foo'):
return self._foo
self._foo = 'bar'
return self._foo

или

@property
def foo(self):
try:
return self._foo
except AttributeError
self._foo = 'bar'
return self._foo

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[13:34:32] xa4a: if not hasattr(self, '_foo'):
self._foo = 'bar'
return self._foo
[13:34:40] xa4a: !kick Darth Лис
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[13:35:03] Darth Лис: xa4a: не всё так просто %)
[13:35:13] Darth Лис: if палюбому будет дёргатся
[13:35:19] Darth Лис: каждый раз
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[13:36:42] Darth Лис: хотя конечно return-ов меньше
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[13:37:57] xa4a: нуэ
[13:38:22] xa4a: ты на наносекунды дрочить собрался?
[13:38:27] Darth Лис: ага %)
[13:38:32] xa4a: тогда при установке значения переписывай проперти, чо
[13:38:46] xa4a: тем, который без ифа
[13:38:50] Darth Лис: в смысле? setter написать?
[13:38:51] xa4a: хотя хз, поможет ли
[13:38:57] xa4a: не..
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[13:40:05] xa4a: def get_foo_no_if(self):
return self._foo
def get_foo(self):
self._foo = 'bar'
self.get_foo = self.get_foo_no_if
return self._foo
[13:40:10] xa4a: но я это только что придумал
[13:40:52] Darth Лис:
In [14]: %timeit f.bar
1000000 loops, best of 3: 511 ns per loop

In [15]: %timeit f2.bar
1000000 loops, best of 3: 347 ns per loop
[13:41:02] Darth Лис: первое с if второе с try except
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[13:43:11] Darth Лис:
In [1]: class Foo(object):
...: @property
...: def bar(self):
...: if not hasattr(self, '_bar'):
...: self._bar = 'bar'
...: return self._bar
[13:43:18] Darth Лис:
In [11]: class Foo2(object):
....: @property
....: def bar(self):
....: try:
....: return self._bar
....: except AttributeError:
....: self._bar = 'bar'
....: return self._bar
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[13:44:03] xa4a: а с заменой геттера?
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[13:50:43] Darth Лис: хз, обломно %)
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[14:13:29] alexrussia: всем привет такой вопрос по питону: как сделать проверку на работоспособность прокси сервара чтобы потом список проксисерверов можно было использовать в urlopen из urllib ?
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[14:15:37] gigimon: подключиться к нему и поппытаться чета открыть?
[14:15:55] gigimon: Sevenov: ты знаток формата GIF?
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[14:19:15] nmk: giiiiiiiiiif :)
[14:19:20] gigimon: угу, гиф
[14:19:28] gigimon: надо сделать ресайз гифки анимированной
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[14:19:37] nmk: я то думал тебе по формату что интересно
[14:19:42] gigimon: но делая через PIL и через ImageMagick получаю потери
[14:19:42] nmk: а тебе ресайз
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[14:19:58] nmk: потери чего? отресайзить каждый фрейм и сделать анимированый гиф?
[14:19:59] gigimon: вот думал, може тскажет, что фильтр какой включить или еще что
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[14:20:13] gigimon: nmk: угу, получаю потери кусков фрейма
[14:20:19] gigimon: половина фрейма белая становится
[14:20:28] wiz_: это гиф детка
[14:20:39] gigimon: побороть бы)
[14:21:47] nmk: gigimon: а это не ты на stackoverflow спрашивал про это? :)
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[14:21:57] nmk: а. да. ты.
[14:21:58] gigimon: я)
[14:21:59] nmk: :)
[14:22:07] gigimon: и на питон.су тоже я
[14:22:11] gigimon: думал PIL кривой
[14:22:12] gigimon: ан не
[14:22:18] gigimon: хотя MagickWand лучше делает
[14:22:26] gigimon: белых пятен нет, но есть черные искажения)
[14:22:38] alexrussia: gigimon как проверить что успешно открытие ?
[14:22:42] gigimon: хотя вру, при adaptiveresize тоже белые пятна
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[14:23:01] gigimon: alexrussia: эм, доку почитать... думаю там написано)
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[14:23:42] nmk: gigimon: ну, может с палитрой что. т.е. при ресайзе может фильтры какие накладываются типа антиалиасинга которые добавляют что-то в палитру ?
[14:23:49] alexrussia: gigimon честно говоря не нашел
[14:24:10] alexrussia: gigimon если бы нашел бы сюда бы не написал
[14:24:23] gigimon: nmk: в magickwand, судя по доке, по-дефолту нету каких-либо спец фильтров, при тупом ресайзе
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[14:24:42] gigimon: nmk: а вот в PIL возможно, но пил сразу открывает коряво
[14:24:58] gigimon: т.е. если тупо открыть, открыть 10 фрейм, то он с белыми пятнами
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[14:25:09] nmk: gigimon: там у imagemagick есть параметр coalesce
[14:25:15] nmk: может с ним надо поиграться?
[14:25:20] gigimon: ща почитаю что это
[14:26:20] gigimon: nmk: опа, спасибо, возможно оно
[14:26:35] nmk: gigimon: я отсюда взял его http://stackoverflow.com/questions/718491/resize-animated-gif-file-without-destroying-animation
[14:26:40] nmk: там пых правда
[14:26:51] nmk: но второй ответ вроде толковый
[14:26:55] gigimon: да пофигу, команды теже)
[14:27:04] gigimon: ок, спс
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[14:28:45] stalkerg_work: gigimon: я у себя на сайте с этим же мучался
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[14:29:12] gigimon: stalkerg_work: победил?
[14:29:14] stalkerg_work: gigimon: в итоге решил эту траблу... хотя и радикально но зато напорядок быстрее и качественее.
[14:29:26] gigimon: nmk: лучше стало, но всеравно много белых артефактов :(
[14:29:29] gigimon: stalkerg_work: как?
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[14:30:16] stalkerg_work: gigimon: subprocess.call(["gifsicle","--resize-width",str(150), in_file, "-o", out_sp])
[14:30:22] gigimon: хы
[14:30:39] gigimon: stalkerg_work: что такое gifsicle?
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[14:30:50] stalkerg_work: все эти PIL безумно тупо работают с гифом
[14:31:06] nmk: gifsicle хорошая тулза. она еще оптимайзить умеет. /me юзает ее для одного проекта.
[14:31:08] gigimon: ну, все же ImageMagick
[14:31:10] stalkerg_work: в целом они даже не умеют по нормальному анимацию воспринимать
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[14:31:19] gigimon: заюзаем
[14:31:23] gigimon: stalkerg_work: спс
[14:31:24] stalkerg_work: nmk: я тож
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[14:31:47] gigimon: черт
[14:31:52] gigimon: жаль она под линух только
[14:31:55] stalkerg_work: ЗЫ кому интересно вот http://mjv-art.org - проект на Pylons
[14:31:59] gigimon: а я щас в винде сижу :(
[14:32:06] stalkerg_work: gigimon: ну а mingw на что?
[14:32:07] nmk: хотя нет. /me уже не юзает. c im лучше результаты получились
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[14:32:36] stalkerg_work: nmk: если статика - то im канает, если анимация то нет
[14:32:37] gigimon: stalkerg_work: ну вот придется)
[14:32:41] nmk: gigimon: http://www.lcdf.org/gifsicle/
[14:32:47] gigimon: stalkerg_work: хотя легче запускать на рядом стоящем компе
[14:32:51] gigimon: nmk: угу, нашел
[14:32:55] stalkerg_work: gigimon: тож верно
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[14:33:00] Sevenov: >[15:16:00] gigimon: надо сделать ресайз гифки анимированной
я ж тебе в тот раз вбрасывал пару ссылок.
[14:33:05] gigimon: stalkerg_work: а не ты ли случаем аниме видео на хтмл5 крутил?
[14:33:10] stalkerg_work: да я
[14:33:11] gigimon: на лоре читал даавно
[14:33:12] stalkerg_work: :))
[14:33:30] stalkerg_work: я и на хабре писал по этому поводу.
[14:33:31] gigimon: Sevenov: ога, на скрипт для PIL, он та тож портит)
[14:33:56] Sevenov: gigimon, значит сам разбирай @ ресайзь @ собирай
[14:34:09] gigimon: Sevenov: ImageMagick делает, но тоже портит почему-то :(
[14:34:22] gigimon: буду gifsicle юзать
[14:34:25] Darth Лис: !voice xobb1t
[14:34:30] Darth Лис: гм
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[14:35:01] xobb1t: ?
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[14:35:06] Darth Лис: xa4a: а чо она меня не слушается?
[14:35:17] Darth Лис: /me slaps silent_bob
[14:35:24] Sevenov: stalkerg_work, html5, но доктайп не его.
> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
[14:35:28] Darth Лис: :D
[14:35:43] Sevenov: xobb1t, знакомый юзернейм.
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[14:36:53] : mishok13 установил(а) тему: Python.SU | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи на google.com | За голосом - в приват к модераторам | Код постить в dumpz.org | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://➡.ws/pu | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Третий тупой вопрос за сутки — на http://throwcatch.me
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[14:36:53] stalkerg_work: Sevenov: угу но собственно html5 ещё не дописан и юзать его доктайл не охото, совсем недавно только валидаторы для html5 появились
[14:37:04] stalkerg_work: Sevenov: по сему юзаю православный xhtml
[14:37:15] xa4a: Darth Лис: а сейчас попробуй
[14:37:21] Sevenov: stalkerg_work, тогда почему юзается непровославный <video> ? :3
[14:37:32] Darth Лис: !devoice xobb1t
[14:37:38] xa4a: хм
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[14:38:02] stalkerg_work: Sevenov: тут браузеры чуть быстрее стандарто-писателей :)
[14:38:11] stalkerg_work: Sevenov: ИМХО это лучше чем flash
[14:38:24] stalkerg_work: Sevenov: который совсем никакого отношения к вебу не имеет
[14:38:31] Sevenov: Да не лучше.
[14:38:36] Sevenov: theora -- блевотен
[14:38:52] stalkerg_work: Sevenov: theora лучше h264
[14:39:00] wiz_: ухаха
[14:39:02] Sevenov: качество ужасно, чтобы сделать сабы, пришлось навешивать костылей в виде жабаскрипта
[14:39:09] Sevenov: >theora лучше h264
Лол.
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[14:39:16] : mishok13 установил(а) тему: Python.SU | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи на google.com | За голосом - в приват к модераторам | Код постить в dumpz.org | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://➡.ws/pu | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Третий тупой вопрос за сутки — на http://throwcatch.me
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[14:39:28] xa4a: Darth Лис: последний раз
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[14:39:40] gigimon: бедный хоббит
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[14:39:46] xa4a: у тебя ник не правильный ,наверна)
[14:39:48] xa4a: а
[14:40:00] stalkerg_work: Sevenov: лучше лучше... уже вон сколько намутили видео. тестировали много и по всяку
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[14:40:10] gigimon: stalkerg_work: ну дык по всем тестам хуже
[14:40:11] Sevenov: stalkerg_work, и поняли, что нужен vp8
[14:40:12] stalkerg_work: h264 лучше только в 2 проходном режиме.
[14:40:25] Sevenov: stalkerg_work, чем лучше-то? Раскожы.
[14:40:33] stalkerg_work: качеством
[14:40:39] gigimon: да глупости
[14:40:42] stalkerg_work: в инете даже можешь найти сравнение :)
[14:40:44] Sevenov: stalkerg_work, с тобой всё ясно.
[14:40:53] gigimon: stalkerg_work: кинь православное сравнение
[14:40:54] Darth Лис: VP8 всех порвёт
[14:40:56] Sevenov: stalkerg_work, заебошь мне фуллскрин в фуррифоксе.
[14:40:57] gigimon: везде наоборот теора сдувала
[14:40:58] stalkerg_work: к тому же h264 это патенты злых дятек.
[14:41:09] Sevenov: stalkerg_work, именно поэтому и vp8.
[14:41:18] stalkerg_work: gigimon: не на те тесты смотрите :)
[14:41:18] gigimon: Darth Лис: ну посмотрим, там уже на него патентами идти собираются
[14:41:22] Sevenov: а h264 пока еще бесплатен.
[14:41:44] Darth Лис: gigimon: посмотрим как mpeg la будет всасывать у гугеля
[14:41:52] Darth Лис: да чо смотреть... порнуха одна
[14:42:05] stalkerg_work: http://people.xiph.org/~greg/video/ytcompare/comparison.html прошу :)
[14:42:10] Sevenov: >[15:37:50] stalkerg_work: gigimon: не на те тесты смотрите :)
Я делал сервис с html5-видео. Во-первых, стриминг в теоре оооооочень анален, во вторых я его выбросил, потому что h264 играют все, а с теорой нормально работает только фуррифокс.
[14:42:23] Sevenov: >xiph
[14:42:26] stalkerg_work: у мя такие же рузультаты получались
[14:42:31] stalkerg_work: *результаты
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[14:42:50] stalkerg_work: Sevenov: ты забыл Opera
[14:42:51] Sevenov: >h264 играют все
кроме фф, да.
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[14:42:58] Sevenov: stalkerg_work, опера проигрывает.
[14:43:11] stalkerg_work: Sevenov: р264 держет только Safari и Chrome
[14:43:14] gigimon: stalkerg_work: слабый тест...
[14:43:24] gigimon: 2 картинки и методика
[14:43:37] gigimon: Sevenov: сервис со стриммингом пашет?
[14:43:40] gigimon: или так, лаборатно
[14:44:08] Sevenov: gigimon, теперь уже не пашет, пока унылота со стандартами, так что нахер.
[14:44:15] gigimon: понятно)
[14:44:21] gigimon: Sevenov: а че крутить хотел?
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[14:46:26] stalkerg_work: gigimon: а у меня работает и видео по немногу добавляються, сайтег тоже ожил до 1000 юзеров в день
[14:46:41] gigimon: клева
[14:46:45] gigimon: stalkerg_work: дедик?
[14:46:52] wiz_: локалхост (=
[14:46:59] wiz_: судя по замечанию про локалку
[14:47:08] stalkerg_work: ну не то и не другое
[14:47:10] stalkerg_work: по середине
[14:47:41] wiz_: дедик у соседа на балконе (8
[14:47:45] gigimon: )
[14:47:47] stalkerg_work: отдельный сервак дома (нормально оборудованный и защещённый)
[14:47:56] gigimon: а канал какой
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[14:48:09] stalkerg_work: я думал коло но оно дорогое
[14:48:19] stalkerg_work: gigimon: 32 мегабита, пока хватает
[14:48:29] stalkerg_work: причём хватает с головой
[14:48:32] gigimon: видно мало видео смотрят
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[14:48:46] stalkerg_work: но картинок много качают :)
[14:48:58] gigimon: )
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[14:50:03] stalkerg_work: пока тянут где то около 10 мегабит т.е. пока есть трёхкратный запас
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[14:50:10] stalkerg_work: потом на колокейшен поставлю
[14:50:42] stalkerg_work: смысл вкладывать большие деньги в то, что может ещё и не стать популярным?
[14:51:14] stalkerg_work: :)) если раньше компы собирали в гаражах то теперь сайты дома разворачивают почти 0 старт.
[14:51:30] Sevenov: >[15:39:43] stalkerg_work: Sevenov: р264 держет только Safari и Chrome
и опера.
[14:52:23] stalkerg_work: Sevenov: где? дай сыль
[14:52:52] stalkerg_work: если только не через gstreamer тогда перекладывается головная боль на пользователей и сборщиков ОС. :)
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[14:53:00] stalkerg_work: у мя вот не играет
[14:53:34] Sevenov: stalkerg_work, ух, да. Таки не играет.
[14:54:14] Sevenov: но для оперы я делал флешплеер и пох.
[14:54:28] Sevenov: отдавал h264. Там где не проигрывает сам браузер, юзал флеш.
[14:54:32] stalkerg_work: Sevenov: почитай мою статью на хабре, я там все глюки на то число разобрал
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[14:54:41] Sevenov: stalkerg_work, линк.
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[14:55:12] stalkerg_work: http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/webstandards/82376/
[14:55:42] stalkerg_work: к слову ещё баловался с canvas - http://mjv-art.org/files/WebDiameter/
[14:56:08] gigimon: мило
[14:56:12] gigimon: 40-50 фпс
[14:56:31] stalkerg_work: в хроме 200 фпс
[14:57:00] gigimon: в хроме у меня 65-70
[14:57:12] gigimon: 40-50 опера
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[14:57:59] wiz_: добавь вращение спрайтов, а то не тру
[14:58:10] wiz_: ну и разнообразить неплохо было бы
[14:58:25] gigimon: :))
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[15:01:01] Sevenov: stalkerg_work, ГДЕ ЗАПЯТЫЕ?
[15:01:17] Sevenov: >по этому
Слитно.
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[15:01:50] wiz_: Sevenov, да там вообще ппц. тебе сейчас придётся пол-розенталя копипастить сюда
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[15:02:36] stalkerg_work: wiz_: Sevenov каюсь, не писатель я а программист. :)
[15:02:45] Sevenov: stalkerg_work, а я писатель что ль?
[15:02:52] Sevenov: как текст пишешь, так и код?
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[15:03:17] stalkerg_work: Sevenov: ты грамарнацы?
[15:03:47] stalkerg_work: код пишу нормально :)
[15:04:07] Sevenov: wiz_, проще не читать. К тому же, статейка вроде бы и свежая, но проблем все равно до хуя. Хорошо, что не продолжил анально страдать от этой нестандартизированности.
[15:04:26] Sevenov: stalkerg_work, нет, я просто не люблю безграмотное быдло.
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[15:04:38] stalkerg_work: Sevenov: ты хочешь сказать что я быдло?
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[15:04:56] Sevenov: stalkerg_work, нет, не быдло.
[15:05:01] Sevenov: Безграмотное быдло.
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[15:05:06] Sevenov: вот это я хотел сказать.
[15:05:29] Sevenov: stalkerg_work, хотя, если ты не русскоговорящий, то прощается.
[15:05:42] Sevenov: или, например, живёшь в Пендостане каком нибудь.
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[15:06:04] stalkerg_work: Sevenov: не полит-корректный нацист!
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[15:06:40] Sevenov: >Часто звук запаздывает и аудио/видео идут порознь.
Это баг не огг, не браузера, это баг рипера.
[15:07:04] Sevenov: >Часто звук запаздывает и аудио/видео идут порознь.
Но сглаживание так и не появилось.
[15:07:46] stalkerg_work: Sevenov: http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Дисграфия -- тебе на заметку, увы не всё во власти человека. :(
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[15:08:13] stalkerg_work: Sevenov: да нет, отстование звука это именно бага плееров в браузере, в mplayer такого к примеру нету.
[15:08:34] stalkerg_work: Sevenov: в последних Chrome уже сглаживание есть
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[15:08:49] Sevenov: stalkerg_work, >Дисграфия
Насколько я знаю, это только у детей.
[15:08:56] Sevenov: Ммм, лет до 13-15 вроде бы.
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[15:09:51] Sevenov: stalkerg_work, >отстование звука это именно бага плееров в браузере
Дык да. Потом я перекодировал с нужными ключиками и вуа-ля.
[15:10:01] Sevenov: >в последних Chrome уже сглаживание есть
я про позорный фурифокс.
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[15:10:22] stalkerg_work: Sevenov: Эйнштейн ей всю жизнь страдал. Это увы часто пожизненый диагноз.
[15:10:38] Sevenov: stalkerg_work, мм, понятно. Ну тогда извиняюсь.
[15:10:41] stalkerg_work: Sevenov: ФФ это отдельная тема... но каждый пытается как может
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[15:11:41] Sevenov: > но каждый пытается как может
Да! Вот именно. Именно поэтому пока видео лучше кодировать в h264, чтобы не засирать места, а недобраузерам отдавать во флеш-плеер.
[15:12:27] Sevenov: Прошло полгода, а ничего так и не изменилось. Что ж, ждём гугла. Как он там хочет поиметь аппле и адоби?
[15:12:40] Sevenov: а, и мозиллу.
[15:12:54] Sevenov: Помнится мне, что мозилла и гуглось посрались :3
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[15:13:02] Sevenov: >гуглось
гуголь
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[15:16:08] stalkerg_work: посмотрим
[15:16:14] stalkerg_work: думаю через полгода поймём
[15:16:34] stalkerg_work: но я пока проталкиваю открытый стандарт какой бы он колючий не был бы
[15:16:48] Sevenov: >ffmpeg2theora --speedlevel 0 --optimize -S 0 -v 6 -a 3 -x 480 -H 44100
добавить --sync и звук не рассинхронизируется с видео.
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[15:18:21] Sevenov: >Сначала я использовал lighttpd-scgi-python/Pylons
Я сначала взял mochiweb, потом перешел на misultin.
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[15:19:52] stalkerg_work: Sevenov: sync оно просто берёт синхронизацию из оригинального контейнера, это бред. По большей часты мы выяснили что mp4 тупит (некие проги делают его не валидным)
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[15:20:46] Sevenov: stalkerg_work, тут знаешь в чем соль, я-то hd отдавал - нормально.
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[15:20:53] Sevenov: ммм, в mp4
[15:21:03] Sevenov: ogg, как сказал выше, выбросил.
[15:21:25] stalkerg_work: ну какая разница если куча прог делают не верный mp4
[15:21:41] Sevenov: каких прог, ты о чем?
[15:21:49] stalkerg_work: указывают в контейнере 100 фпс а в самом файле нормальная синхронизация по 29 фпс... :)
[15:21:55] Sevenov: mencoder, накидать фильтров и вуа ля!
[15:22:07] stalkerg_work: толку от него
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[15:22:17] stalkerg_work: он тоже ифу о ФПС берёт из контейнера
[15:22:27] stalkerg_work: он же демуксер ffmpeg юзает
[15:22:35] Sevenov: stalkerg_work, ок. Давай в anime-talks и мучай риперов как правильно кодировать. Пока я придерживаюсь мнению, что все проблемы у тебя.
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[15:23:13] stalkerg_work: Sevenov: они кодируют в theora?
[15:23:15] stalkerg_work: :)
[15:23:29] Sevenov: stalkerg_work, они собирают нормальные mkv/mp4
[15:23:38] Sevenov: stalkerg_work, теора _никому_ _не_нужна_
[15:24:03] stalkerg_work: мне нужна :) и приемлемо работает везде кроме может жуткого ИЕ.
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[15:24:21] stalkerg_work: это лучше чем флеш
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[15:24:42] stalkerg_work: theora подерживают больше h264 это пока факт
[15:24:46] Sevenov: >кроме может жуткого ИЕ.
Ага. Флеш есть у всех, а вот для сафари нужно доставлять пгалин к квиктайму.
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[15:25:06] wiz_: stalkerg_work, начистил уже места чтобы в webM деражать видосики?
[15:25:07] Sevenov: > theora подерживают больше h264 это пока факт
Про стриминг я писал выше.
[15:25:31] stalkerg_work: а что у тебя со стрименгом? Я через icecast делал вроде всё ок работало.
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[15:25:39] stalkerg_work: но в паблик у меня только статик файлы
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[15:26:33] stalkerg_work: wiz_: пока 312 видюх так что не проблема и в WebM перевести всё.
[15:27:17] wiz_: видео через айскаст? o_O
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[15:44:00] alecs: народ , вопрос по гит : git pull говорит что ап-ту-дейт , а git push failed to push some refs to
[15:44:08] alecs: это как так ? :(
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[15:46:21] alecs: merge branch 'master' of ..... into HEAD
[15:46:31] alecs: это должно быть не так ? :-(
[15:47:08] Darth Лис: git rebase origin/master
[15:47:10] Darth Лис: git push
[15:47:36] Darth Лис: хотя если ты уже сделал merge то лучше так не делать
[15:47:52] alecs: а как делать :-(
[15:47:53] Darth Лис: откати merge нзад (reset --hard) и сделай rebase
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[15:51:59] gigimon: stalkerg_work: jv-video в теоре щас?
[15:52:09] gigimon: в хроме мило пашет)
[15:52:59] stalkerg_work: да в теоре
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[15:53:23] nmk: теора хуйора. развели тут цирк блядь
[15:53:32] stalkerg_work: gigimon: в целом о том и речь :) эксперемент вполне удался. Сверх больших траблов не обнаружено.
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[15:53:48] gigimon: nmk: :))
[15:53:50] stalkerg_work: nmk ваше заявление сверх информативно, спасибо.
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[15:55:39] stalkerg_work: gigimon: http://mjv-art.org/jvvideo/view_post/313?lang=ru мне вот это кавайное видео понра. :) уже не мы заливали.
[15:56:30] gigimon: stalkerg_work: не поверишь, но это первое на которое я тыкнул)
[15:56:48] stalkerg_work: ^_^
[15:56:50] gigimon: stalkerg_work: ты кстати ресайзишь которое заливают?
[15:57:00] stalkerg_work: gigimon: да
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[16:37:44] Darth Лис: что нибудь а-ля rspec есть для python-а?!
[16:37:52] Darth Лис: желательно что бы и мокать сразу могло
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[16:41:28] Darth Лис: nose вроде ничо так...
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[20:40:47] Darth Лис: http://lostfilm.tv/news.php?act=full&type=1&id=1068
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[23:47:04] pzskc383: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/Turkmenbashi/1.0.0
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[23:54:39] Sevenov:
def __init__(self):
# startup definition
Turkmenbashi.__init__(self)
[23:55:01] Sevenov:
self.turk_set_pid_file('/var/run/daemon.pid')
self.turk_set_log_file('/var/log/daemon.log')
self.turk_set_temp_dir('/tmp')
self.turk_set_log_level('debug')
self.turk_set_log_msize(10485760)
[23:55:13] Sevenov: вот этот префикс turk ужасен
[23:55:14] Sevenov: фуфу
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[23:57:09] Sevenov: не, код ужасен
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