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[00:30:33] Tony: /me провалил очередную попытку переезда на xterm
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[00:56:50] xa4a: да
[01:01:32] Tony: по мне так уж лучше венду + virtualbox юзать чем кеды, производительнее получится.
[01:01:37] Tony: и красивше
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[03:19:04] bobry: "красивше" lol
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[05:18:03] _lorien: можно ли управлять кол-ом adsense объявлений в runtime?
[05:18:34] _lorien: чуваки хотят чтобы объявами заполнялся весь сайдбар в зависимости от объёма содержимого главной части
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[06:00:00] Tony: ну это так будет красивше
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[09:44:23] qq6ka: Привет. Почему такая конструкция не нахоит реально существующие страницы?
[09:44:25] qq6ka: for line in f:
try:
a = urllib.urlopen('http://www.site.ru/%s') % line.strip()
print a.info()
except:
print 'Not found http://www.site.ru/%s' % line.strip()
[09:47:09] slav0nic: наверно потому-что скобку надо сдвинуть вправо
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[09:50:18] mishok13: пушо except: это пиздец
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[09:51:38] Typhon: qq6ka: http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/
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[11:38:10] cutwater: люди дайте POPSuL голос
[11:38:18] cutwater: юный пхпшник пришел познавать таинства питона
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[11:41:19] POPSuL: спасибо
[11:42:17] POPSuL: cutwater: да, и похапэ говно и не...))
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[11:42:40] cutwater: POPSuL: вобщем давай свой кусок кода
[11:42:45] cutwater: а то я его уже хочу развидеть
[11:43:17] cutwater: POPSuL: ты токо с своим strlen показывай. надо ж людям посмеяться.
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[11:43:42] POPSuL: cutwater: http://paste.ubuntu.com/440277/ на, уже strlenа нету)
[11:44:02] POPSuL: да, и это первый кусок кода который я сам написал, без чьей либо помощи %)
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[11:45:49] Typhon: POPSuL: pep8
[11:46:04] Typhon: сегодня день чтоле bare except?
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[11:46:40] Typhon: вообще жепь какая-то
[11:46:47] GrimbleGromble: ты забыл в экспете еще один трай сделать)))
[11:46:49] slav0nic: ыхыхы
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[11:49:40] POPSuL: Typhon: а чё под pep8 то не подходит?
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[11:50:00] Typhon: POPSuL: да почти все, не? ;)
[11:50:17] POPSuL: Typhon: ну например?
[11:50:21] Typhon: except:
[11:50:26] Typhon: camelCase
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[11:50:43] Typhon: еще здравому смыслу противоречит некоторое
[11:51:11] Typhon: try: if len(url) <= 5 : raise; except: ==> что мешает там же в ветке return сделать? ^_^
[11:51:12] slav0nic: numToChar предел совершенству)
[11:51:54] Typhon: в try пихается только то, что эксепшн кинуть можно, лишнее не суют
[11:51:56] mishok13: ну, если это первая неделя, то нормально
[11:52:15] POPSuL: Typhon: ну я только что прочёл про pep8, про имена функций в частности, разрешён смешанный регистр
[11:52:22] slav0nic: некоторые на уровне первой недели на долго остаются)
[11:52:28] Typhon: ну именование это хер с ним :)
[11:52:52] slav0nic: ; можно не ставить)
[11:52:58] Typhon: главное с логикой разобраться: кусок с if cond : raise -- туповатый :)
[11:52:59] POPSuL: про except вообще ничего не сказано там =) ну да, это так называемая первая неделя %)
[11:53:03] Typhon: POPSuL: сказано
[11:53:26] POPSuL: slav0nic: после сиподобных языков я не могу ; не ставить) а ещё мне скобок не хватает %)
[11:53:27] Typhon: When catching exceptions, mention specific exceptions whenever possible instead of using a bare 'except:' clause.
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[11:54:03] Typhon: POPSuL: пиши код так, как будто его потом будет читать неуравновешенный маньяк, знающий, где ты живешь.
[11:54:11] Typhon: вот точки с запятой в питоне выбешивают!!211!
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[11:55:04] Typhon: и еще у тебя табы, табы бесят
[11:55:31] mishok13: табы в питоне низзя
[11:55:34] POPSuL: да я не виноват что geany не заменяет табы на пробелы, хотя в настройках стоит замена табов на пробелы =\
[11:55:35] mishok13: и ваще табы хуита
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[11:56:19] Typhon: больше табов бесят только пробелы в конце строк, наверное)
[11:56:27] POPSuL: Typhon: +++
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[12:00:13] Typhon: POPSuL: вместо всей numToChar можно использовать collections.defaultdict
[12:01:23] POPSuL: Typhon: ща почитаю про это
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[12:05:44] Typhon: POPSuL: та или вообще {}.get(key, default) даже, без дефолтдиктов.
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[12:10:49] deepwalker: POPSuL, ты плохо читал пеп - смешанное camelCase разрешен там, где уже тонна подобного кода. Например Twisted
[12:10:56] cutwater: POPSuL: а вместо geany лучше осилить vim
[12:11:24] deepwalker: vim к python и pep не относится : )
[12:11:48] POPSuL: cutwater: да не нравится мне вим х_Х
[12:11:57] Typhon: правильно к питону относится emacs
[12:11:59] Typhon: ^_^
[12:12:07] deepwalker: POPSuL, ну тогда emacs
[12:12:25] cutwater: эм... emacs так же относится к python как vim к lisp
[12:13:01] deepwalker: cutwater, я про то, что если не один редактор, так второй
[12:13:09] cutwater: ^^
[12:13:24] deepwalker: я собственно вимер
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[12:13:37] cutwater: я собственно тоже. правда хочу осилить емакс
[12:13:53] wiz__: cutwater, для начала осиль нано (=
[12:13:56] deepwalker: а я не хочу : )
[12:14:04] Typhon: cutwater: http://karl-voit.at/vim-emacs-cheatsheet_of_freezing_hell.txt
[12:14:41] POPSuL: щитото это ваш емакс дохрена весит ;/
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[12:15:09] mishok13: целых 50МБ
[12:15:11] mishok13: УЖАС
[12:15:28] deepwalker: POPSuL, а что, у тебя ЕС1841 от бабушки?
[12:15:33] Typhon: для операционной системы неплохо
[12:15:41] POPSuL: deepwalker: чё эт? ;/
[12:15:49] deepwalker: у меня туда тоже помню не все влезало
[12:15:55] deepwalker: на 40 метров то
[12:16:05] deepwalker: это наш IMB PC XT
[12:16:10] deepwalker: IBM
[12:16:18] POPSuL: просто какбэ через жпрс качать >20 мегов не доставляет удовольствия
[12:16:38] Typhon: /me посмотрел на дату: все правильно, 2010 год
[12:16:45] deepwalker: да жить с жпрс вообще мало удоволствия
[12:16:50] Typhon: жпрс? это вот когда дискеты были, да?
[12:17:11] POPSuL: Typhon: угу, сахалин ещё в тех временах живёт((
[12:17:38] wiz__: <Aceler> На дворе 2010-й год, на форуме опять ставят XMMS из исходников :)
[12:17:42] deepwalker: млин, переплюнул, а то я тут чуть не в самойпопе земли жил
[12:17:54] mishok13: привет из Киева
[12:18:22] mishok13: /me махает рукой за десять тысяч километров в направлении Сахалина
[12:18:23] deepwalker: может у вас там еще есть ЕС1841? : )
[12:18:29] Typhon: кто-то тусил с дальнего востока еще тут, емнип
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[12:18:37] POPSuL: deepwalker: хз))
[12:18:53] deepwalker: у меня сгорел, я был безутешен
[12:19:06] deepwalker: на нем же шел принц персии
[12:19:33] gigimon: deepwalker: а сколько золота в нем было...
[12:19:46] mishok13: 4 грамма
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[12:19:50] gigimon: хм
[12:19:55] gigimon: аа, да)
[12:19:57] gigimon: я перепутал)
[12:20:08] gigimon: это в ДВК было дофига
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[12:25:33] deepwalker: блин, я уж было расстроился :)
[12:25:51] deepwalker: что не был в курсе золотоносного погорельца
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[12:38:05] Денис_: какой смачный говнокод
[12:38:13] Денис_: и холивар про вим и емакс
[12:38:28] Денис_: а я все пропустил
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[12:50:30] deepwalker: Денис_, а где холивар был? Я тоже пропустил. По-моему было расшаркивание и признание что есть Земля, есть Небо : )
[12:50:37] deepwalker: и их неразумные потомки
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[12:51:12] Денис_: да ладно, проехали
[12:51:21] Денис_: кстати, джини отлично с пробелами работает
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[14:15:42] slav0nic: народ, как вы считаете оплату по fixed price?
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[14:25:37] Darth Лис: в смысле?
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[14:27:02] slav0nic: ну некоторые считают рпимерно часы и множат на 1.5, я сам хз как правильно прикинуть) бывает простая вещь, а залезешь в код и оказывается надо докуя переделать)
[14:28:10] piranha: значит ты провтыкал )
[14:28:31] slav0nic: ага и 2 раза причём))
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[14:28:33] slav0nic: лан
[14:28:55] gigimon: slav0nic: ты находка :)
[14:28:57] Darth Лис: скользкая тема у вас
[14:29:14] Darth Лис: /me сразу вспомнил про свою "почасовую оплату"
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[14:29:31] slav0nic: да с жлобами связался, лучше б спал))
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[14:31:04] Darth Лис: piranha: как в емагзе фолдить код?
[14:31:10] Darth Лис: к примеру тот же питон
[14:31:30] piranha: !g emacs code folding
[14:31:40] piranha: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1208622/code-folding-in-emacs
[14:31:41] piranha: вот еще тоже
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[14:35:12] Darth Лис:
C-c @ ESC C-s show all
C-c @ ESC C-h hide all
C-c @ C-s show block
C-c @ C-h hide block
C-c @ C-c toggle hide/show
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[14:47:16] wiz__: обана, а что, dumpz.org уронили?
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[14:49:22] Typhon: wiz__: а его поднимали, да?
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[14:49:40] Typhon: поддержи независимость украiны, воспользуйся paste.in.ua!
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[14:53:10] wiz__: да мне бы свой говнокод забрать, у меня там филиал omnisnippets.com
[14:53:10] mishok13: нєзавісімость
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[14:53:41] deepwalker: а что означает незалежна?
[14:53:48] wiz__: нєзавісімость Украiны от Молдовы?
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[14:54:02] deepwalker: это не то самое разве?
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[14:55:07] piranha: deepwalker: то самое
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[15:02:42] gigimon: подскажите, никто незнает маунала по Mysql, чтоб оптимизировать под кучу мелких запросов
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[15:21:46] Darth Лис: а как вычесть одни list из другого?
типо
[1,2,3] - [1,3] = [2]
[15:22:01] Darth Лис: а то вылетает
TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for -: 'list' and 'list'
[15:22:32] wiz__: [x for x in source where x not in another]
[15:22:46] wiz__: а вообще этим set-ы занимаются
[15:22:57] Typhon: set'ы порядок не сохранят
[15:23:15] wiz__: а list смысл
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[15:24:18] Typhon: что "list смысл"? :) зачем вычитать? я хз, например список последовательных задач есть и внезапно часть нужно выкинуть, хз, у Лиса спросить надо
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[15:34:14] Typhon: хахах)
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[15:35:10] Typhon: все дороги ведут на стэковерфлоу
[15:35:23] tilarids: хороший сайт вышел
[15:35:25] tilarids: даже более чем
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[15:36:42] Darth Лис: ordered не нужен
[15:36:45] Darth Лис: и так хорошо
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[15:39:13] tilarids: жаль, что он не позиционируется как база данных по софту, а только как база данных по программерским проблемам
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[18:15:02] : mishok13 установил(а) тему: Python.SU | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи на google.com | За голосом - в приват к модераторам | Код постить в dumpz.org | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://➡.ws/pu | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Третий тупой вопрос за сутки — на http://throwcatch.me
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[19:39:29] alecs is now online
[19:39:57] alecs is now offline
[19:41:32] Zubchick is now online
[19:42:04] erraen is now online
[19:43:06] lievil is now (Автостатус 'Отошел' по причине бездействия более 5 мин)
[19:46:31] Zubchick is now online
[19:46:54] Darth Лис is now online
[19:47:03] erraen is now online
[19:48:41] piranha is now offline
[19:51:31] лорд Морфий is now away
[19:51:32] Zubchick is now online
[19:52:03] erraen is now online
[19:55:12] Денис_ is now xa
[19:56:32] Zubchick is now online
[19:56:48] PC is now offline
[19:57:04] erraen is now online
[20:01:12] Typhon is now away
[20:01:32] Zubchick is now online
[20:01:44] Typhon is now online
[20:01:44] Денис_ is now online
[20:02:04] erraen is now online
[20:05:29] Darth Лис is now online
[20:05:52] tilarids is now offline
[20:06:32] Zubchick is now online
[20:07:04] erraen is now online
[20:07:26] Zubchick is now offline
[20:07:36] Typhon is now away
[20:07:41] zubchick is now online
[20:07:42] zubchick is now online
[20:07:43] zubchick is now online
[20:07:44] zubchick is now online
[20:08:42] Darth Лис is now online
[20:10:18] Typhon is now online
[20:12:04] erraen is now online
[20:12:45] zubchick is now online
[20:16:54] slav0nic is now offline
[20:17:03] erraen is now online
[20:17:44] zubchick is now online
[20:22:04] erraen is now online
[20:22:44] zubchick is now online
[20:23:57] Денис_ is now away
[20:27:04] erraen is now online
[20:27:45] zubchick is now online
[20:32:04] erraen is now online
[20:32:45] zubchick is now online
[20:37:04] erraen is now online
[20:37:45] zubchick is now online
[20:39:34] alafin is now away
[20:39:39] Денис_ is now offline
[20:41:41] wiz is now online
[20:42:02] lievil is now away
[20:42:05] erraen is now online
[20:42:45] zubchick is now online
[20:45:49] Spring is now away
[20:47:05] erraen is now online
[20:47:45] zubchick is now online
[20:47:57] Spring is now offline
[20:49:15] Spring is now away
[20:49:34] alafin is now xa
[20:52:02] lievil is now xa
[20:52:05] erraen is now online
[20:52:45] zubchick is now online
[20:57:05] erraen is now online
[20:57:45] zubchick is now online
[20:57:50] skl1f is now Я здесь.
[20:57:52] skl1f is now Я здесь.
[20:59:30] wiz is now offline
[21:00:04] lievil is now (Автостатус 'Отошел' по причине бездействия более 5 мин)
[21:02:05] erraen is now online
[21:02:45] zubchick is now online
[21:03:25] Spring is now offline
[21:06:24] Darth Лис is now online
[21:07:06] erraen is now online
[21:07:41] Spring is now away
[21:07:46] zubchick is now online
[21:08:14] tex3d is now offline
[21:12:06] erraen is now online
[21:12:45] zubchick is now online
[21:17:06] erraen is now online
[21:17:25] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
[21:17:45] zubchick is now online
[21:19:41] Darth Лис is now online
[21:20:53] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
[21:22:07] erraen is now online
[21:22:46] zubchick is now online
[21:22:47] Typhon is now away
[21:24:54] alafin is now online
[21:25:53] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
[21:27:02] Joes is now online
[21:27:06] erraen is now online
[21:27:46] zubchick is now online
[21:29:35] Spring is now offline
[21:30:53] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
[21:31:01] skl1f is now away
[21:31:02] skl1f is now away
[21:31:16] skl1f is now offline
[21:32:07] erraen is now online
[21:32:46] Typhon is now xa
[21:32:46] zubchick is now online
[21:35:54] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
[21:37:07] erraen is now online
[21:37:46] zubchick is now online
[21:40:54] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
[21:42:07] erraen is now online
[21:42:46] zubchick is now online
[21:44:36] tilarids is now online
[21:45:54] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
[21:47:07] erraen is now online
[21:47:46] zubchick is now online
[21:48:18] Joes is now away
[21:49:58] Typhon is now online
[21:50:54] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
[21:52:07] erraen is now online
[21:52:46] zubchick is now online
[21:55:36] Joes is now online
[21:55:54] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
[21:57:07] erraen is now online
[21:57:46] zubchick is now online
[21:59:16] Typhon is now away
[22:00:54] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
[22:02:08] erraen is now online
[22:02:18] Darth Лис is now online
[22:02:47] zubchick is now online
[22:05:27] deepwalker is now online
[22:05:54] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
[22:07:03] Darth Лис is now online
[22:07:08] erraen is now online
[22:07:40] Optik is now online
[22:07:43] Optik is now offline
[22:07:47] zubchick is now online
[22:09:16] Typhon is now xa
[22:10:54] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
[22:12:08] erraen is now online
[22:12:47] zubchick is now online
[22:12:48] Darth Лис is now online
[22:14:07] alecs is now online
[22:14:08] alecs is now online
[22:14:18] alecs is now online
[22:14:19] alecs is now online
[22:15:54] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
[22:17:09] erraen is now online
[22:17:46] zubchick is now online
[22:17:49] alecs is now online
[22:20:54] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
[22:22:05] Spring is now away
[22:22:09] erraen is now online
[22:22:30] lievil is now away
[22:22:39] Darth Лис is now online
[22:22:47] zubchick is now online
[22:22:49] alecs is now online
[22:25:37] piranha is now Intellectual laziness is punishable by brain death. It is a natural law.
[22:25:54] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
[22:27:09] erraen is now online
[22:27:46] zubchick is now online
[22:27:49] alecs is now online
[22:30:55] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
[22:32:09] erraen is now online
[22:32:30] lievil is now xa
[22:32:46] zubchick is now online
[22:32:48] alecs is now online
[22:35:55] cybergrind is now Устал? Отдохни. Но после ты никогда не станешь солдатом революции. (#)
[22:37:10] erraen is now online
[22:37:46] zubchick is now online
[22:37:49] alecs is now online
[22:38:31] cybergrind is now offline
[22:39:43] Darth Лис is now online
[22:42:10] erraen is now online
[22:42:47] zubchick is now online
[22:42:49] alecs is now online
[22:44:10] Darth Лис is now online
[22:44:56] lievil is now (Автостатус 'Отошел' по причине бездействия более 5 мин)
[22:46:37] Andrey Popp is now online
[22:46:46] Andrey Popp is now online
[22:47:10] erraen is now online
[22:47:13] Andrey Popp is now online
[22:47:42] Andrey Popp is now online
[22:47:47] zubchick is now online
[22:47:50] alecs is now online
[22:47:58] Andrey Popp is now offline
[22:48:29] Andrey Popp is now online
[22:50:16] Andrey Popp is now online
[22:50:49] Andrey Popp is now offline
[22:52:10] erraen is now online
[22:52:47] zubchick is now online
[22:52:49] alecs is now online
[22:56:58] tex3d is now Да, я здесь.
[22:57:10] erraen is now online
[22:57:47] zubchick is now online
[22:57:49] alecs is now online
[23:02:10] erraen is now online
[23:02:25] zubchick is now offline
[23:02:34] alecs is now offline
[23:07:11] erraen is now online
[23:12:10] erraen is now online
[23:17:10] erraen is now online
[23:18:46] tilarids is now away
[23:22:11] erraen is now online
[23:22:38] tilarids is now online
[23:24:56] Darth Лис is now online
[23:26:44] Darth Лис is now online
[23:27:11] erraen is now online
[23:27:30] alafin is now away
[23:32:11] erraen is now online
[23:36:59] Darth Лис is now offline
[23:37:12] erraen is now online
[23:37:30] alafin is now xa
[23:40:21] yumike is now online
[23:40:22] yumike is now offline
[23:42:09] piranha is now offline
[23:42:12] erraen is now online
[23:44:26] alafin is now online
[23:44:36] Typhon is now online
[23:47:12] erraen is now online
[23:48:55] Lyuk is now I came back on 23:48:52
Финляндия (лето) (03:00)
[23:48:56] Lyuk is now I came back on 23:48:52
Финляндия (лето) (03:00)
[23:49:55] Lyuk is now Да, я здесь.
[23:52:12] erraen is now online
[23:53:00] Typhon is now away
[23:53:31] tilarids is now offline
[23:57:12] erraen is now online