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[09:56:32] wiz: character 0xe28496 of encoding "UTF8" has no equivalent in "KOI8" -- wtf?!
sitecustomize положил, ошибка осталась
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[09:58:02] Ляпатяпа: >>> test = u'\ue28496'
>>> test
u'\ue28496'
>>> print test
96
[09:59:09] Ляпатяпа: смотри что это за хуйня в начальной строке, и подумай на что ее можно заменить
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[10:06:03] wiz: да пофиг. интересно откуда вообще тут кои8 вылез
[10:06:48] wiz: валится в постгресе, он ещё любит выдавать "локализованые" в кои-8 сообщения, при том, что у меня локаль утф8
[10:06:52] nmk: эээ. в utf8 нету символа e28496 :)
[10:07:01] nmk: или имеется ввиду уникод?
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[10:08:35] nmk: о
[10:08:39] nmk: В поле длиной varchar(254) вставляю текст в котором содержится символ номера №.
Вот незадача: данные вставляются но без символа номера №
Сервер выдает сообщение
WARNING: ignoring unconvertible UTF-8 character 0xe28496
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[10:12:20] wiz: ага, № пишу и валится
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[10:13:28] nmk: хм. я у себя проверил. у меня норм
[10:13:45] nmk: 8.3.7
[10:13:48] nmk: debian
[10:13:59] xa4a: In [9]: unicode('№', 'utf-8')
Out[9]: u'\u2116'
[10:14:13] nmk: wiz: ты бы посмотерл, может у тебя сама база в koi8
[10:14:17] wiz: походу да
[10:14:20] wiz: ппц..
[10:14:29] wiz: админ любитель фри и кои8
[10:14:55] nmk: посмотреть можно просто в psql набрать \
[10:14:57] nmk: набрать \l
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[10:19:30] nmk: xa4a: unicode('№', 'utf-8').encode('utf8') :)
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[11:21:21] tilarids: какой сейчас модный vds provider? Нужен для опытов, баксов 10-20
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[11:22:59] SV0L0CH: для опытов обычно локалхост используется
[11:23:13] SV0L0CH: хотя смотря что за опыты
[11:23:17] Darth Лис: tilarids: linode
[11:23:18] tilarids: вот-вот
[11:23:45] tilarids: имеется в виду, что серьезной нагрузки там не будет, так, мелочевка
[11:23:54] MAVr is now Да, я тут
[11:24:05] Darth Лис: а вообще стало можно сервак в hetzner.de брать (:
там железо будь здароф, а стоит очень дёшево (но всё же дороже чем VPS)
[11:24:16] Darth Лис: модно*
[11:24:37] tilarids: linode 512 вполне нормально выглядит
[11:24:45] tilarids: и как раз 20 баксов
[11:24:53] Darth Лис: подорожали...
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[11:26:21] tilarids: а еще что есть? А то выбирать из одного наименования как-то неправильно
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[11:26:29] tilarids: советский союз прямо какой-то
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[11:27:49] nmk: а что на linode с дисками? насколько шустры?
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[11:56:26] tilarids: ну, так? Что, альтернативы не будет? Все юзают linode и счастливы с ним?
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[11:57:07] Darth Лис: /me юзает slicehost и не щаслив
[11:57:21] Darth Лис: вывожу постепенно оттуда проекты
[11:57:34] Darth Лис: и на нормальные сервера в хетцнер перетаскиваю %)
[11:57:54] tilarids: не, на хетцнер денег нет, да и смысла нет
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[12:16:52] Typhon: time.sleep(1)
TypeError: an integer is required
[12:18:09] tilarids: 1 is too int
[12:19:00] Typhon: причем из нескольких тредов с time.sleep(1) только один падает так :)
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[12:19:40] xa4a: стабильно?
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[12:20:26] Typhon: да
[12:20:41] SV0L0CH: чудеса однако :-/
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[12:22:34] Typhon: пофиксил.
[12:24:58] Typhon: обертка над сишной структурой, полу объявлено BYTE services_list[CC_MX_SERVICES+1]; при создании питоновской обертки .services_list -- список с CC_MX_SERVICES+1 нулями. я services список создал и не обновил services_list а зааппендил. (сделал это чтобы проверить кое-что :) )
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[12:34:55] _troll: добрый день. движок для jango блога . byteflow - какие впечатления оставил?
[12:35:21] Darth Лис: jango?!
O_o
[12:35:39] _troll: чего то не то ляпнул?)
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[12:38:18] Darth Лис: нене, всё путём, даже забавно (:
[12:38:56] _troll: да ладно скажите уж.
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[12:45:31] tilarids: !g jango
[12:45:53] tilarids: ты обидел одного очень хорошего музыканта
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[12:47:09] SV0L0CH: твой пост огорчает негров!
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[12:49:26] _troll: ))))) django -фреймворк. это конечно подразумевал
[12:49:42] _troll: опечатался
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[12:52:35] SV0L0CH: радует что там можно без sql, огорчает что это самое хреново документировано
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[12:52:58] SV0L0CH: свалил :(
[12:53:13] SV0L0CH: а я уже настроился наставлять на путь истинный
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[12:54:54] _troll: тут я)
[12:55:31] _troll: будет интерессно выслушать. в чем путь то?
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[12:56:12] SV0L0CH: _troll: ну послать я тебя хотел знаешь куда? на webpy первым делом...
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[12:59:40] SV0L0CH: _troll: тебе не понравилось webpy?
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[14:39:31] maxp: уважаемые, есть тут кто-нибудь, кто объяснит мне, как заставить рабоать djapian?
[14:41:05] xa4a: а в чём пробелма?
[14:41:07] xa4a: там же вроде туториалы были
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[14:41:17] maxp: да вот я в них и туплю
[14:41:36] maxp: что надо чтобы manage.py index что-нибудь проиндексировал?
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[14:42:07] maxp: 1. добавить djapian в INSTALLED_APPS
[14:42:12] maxp: 2. сдеать
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[14:43:22] Ляпатяпа: в модель разве ничего не надо добавлять?
[14:44:06] maxp: 3. описать IndexerClass, и сказать djapian.add_index( ... )
[14:44:36] maxp: я наверно в логике не понимаю чего-то тут
[14:44:51] maxp: но какое дело модели, что я хочу её поиндексировать немного?
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[14:45:43] maxp: /me пошел читать код management/index.py
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[14:46:37] xa4a: maxp: должно быть, джапиан не знает, что индексировать, если модели свои не опишешь. не будет же он втупую все данные перерывать
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[14:47:02] maxp: так у меня же написано djapian.add_index( Model, Index, ... )
[14:48:17] xa4a: class some_model_indexer(Indexer):
..
[14:48:20] xa4a: такое есть?
[14:48:25] maxp: ага
[14:48:53] maxp: тут в тюторилае написано что надо бы index.py везде посоздавать и потом его лоадить
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[14:56:01] deepwalker: как по английски "каждый сам за себя?" чет не пойму где вот подобные переводы искать
[14:56:13] deepwalker: а так хочется смешное сообщение влепить : )
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[14:56:17] maxp: странно, my brains чем дальше, тем сильнее становится django incompatible ...
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[14:56:46] deepwalker: maxp, это общий тренд
[14:57:21] maxp: ну успокоил :) а то я думал это Clojure на меня так плохо влияет :)
[14:58:10] maxp: в борьбе с командой manage.py index
[14:58:17] maxp: победил вариант
[14:58:18] maxp: for m,i in dj.space.get_indexers().items():
... i[0].update()

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[15:02:19] Typhon: deepwalker: http://www.scribd.com/doc/13016653/English-Russian-Idioms ^___^
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[15:09:28] deepwalker: Typhon, tnx
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[15:14:41] wiz: "a couple of bricks short" - высрал пару кирпичей? ((=
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[20:04:56] _lorien: ни у кого инвайта на хабр нету? потролить охото :)
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[20:31:29] _lorien: а, уже не актуально )
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[20:39:05] deepwalker: _lorien, а чего потроллить? давай я за тебя : )
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[20:40:19] _lorien: deepwalker, да ладно, я уже и сам могу )
[20:40:52] _lorien: я тока пока не решил, тупо троллить насрав на карму или троллить, но чтобы с положительной кармой )
[20:41:28] deepwalker: _lorien, ну ссылку дай
[20:41:44] deepwalker: чего там за тролление то : )
[20:41:48] _lorien: аа, да что угодно :) ну ваще там была новость про дыру в убунте )
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[20:42:06] deepwalker: а, это скучно : )
[20:42:23] deepwalker: я думал чего предметное там есть, вкусное : )
[20:42:37] SV0L0CH: давай тут потроллим %)
[20:43:04] SV0L0CH: питон говно и не нужен!
[20:43:22] SV0L0CH: хотя не... толстовато будет :(
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[21:24:23] ds.tihonov: Добрый вечер всем! :)
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[21:32:17] deepwalker: ds.tihonov, приветствие по поводу? Или продолжения не воспоследует?
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[21:32:35] ds.tihonov: deepwalker: ну могу поспрошать :)
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[21:33:16] ds.tihonov: deepwalker: интересует, питон имеет взаимодействие с ассемблером?
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[21:35:51] SV0L0CH: ds.tihonov: есть модуль для ffi
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[21:36:36] ds.tihonov: SV0L0CH: а насколько увеличивается быстродействие выполнения кода ?
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[21:37:11] SV0L0CH: /me увеличивает быстродействие иными способами
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[21:38:03] ds.tihonov: /me нуп в питоне
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[21:38:32] SV0L0CH: какие языки кроме ассемблеров знаешь?
[21:40:18] slav0nic: питон имеет взаимодействие с С, а С с ассемблером)
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[21:48:00] ds.tihonov: slav0nic: ну вот, приехали, я Си пытаюсь обойти стороной, а тут переспиктива такая python->C->asm\yasm :)
[21:48:21] slav0nic: кудаж без него
[21:48:27] ds.tihonov: SV0L0CH: давным давно всё было, сейчас подучиваю python\mysql
[21:48:51] ds.tihonov: slav0nic: да вот именно, туда где можно без него обойтись
[21:49:06] slav0nic: значит тебе питон не нужен%)
[21:49:13] ds.tihonov: О.о ?!
[21:49:14] deepwalker: чет я не понял, уйти от си, но нужен асм
[21:49:27] deepwalker: оригинально
[21:49:37] ds.tihonov: deepwalker: да, вон php реализована возможность вставки кода асма
[21:49:50] deepwalker: ну пых он вообще супер логичен
[21:50:02] deepwalker: видел что-то из этого у numpy
[21:50:07] deepwalker: погугли
[21:50:13] deepwalker: там вставляли sse
[21:50:17] slav0nic: ds.tihonov, и на чём это реализовано в рнр если не на С/С++ ))
[21:50:19] deepwalker: вот только накой ляд это надо
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[21:50:33] slav0nic: рнр не на ассемблере вроде писан%)
[21:50:54] ds.tihonov: deepwalker: а вы не работали с mysql посредствам питона?
[21:51:21] deepwalker: ds.tihonov, ага, погугли sqlalchemy
[21:51:22] ds.tihonov: мне хочется аналог mysql_setpermission написать на python + ncurse
[21:51:30] ds.tihonov: deepwalker: ок!
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[21:51:40] deepwalker: ну или просто драйвер к мускулю
[21:51:56] slav0nic: для этого и mysqldb хватит
[21:51:58] SV0L0CH: зачем mysql? есть же mongodb и couchdb
[21:52:05] slav0nic: %)
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[21:52:13] slav0nic: это тонкий сарказм?)
[21:52:15] deepwalker: redis и cassandra
[21:52:23] slav0nic: текстовые файлы!
[21:52:28] deepwalker: а еще еще infogrid
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[21:52:39] deepwalker: и еще полсотни наименований
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[21:52:47] ds.tihonov: а ваш канал принципиально не соединён с каналом python@jabber.ru ?
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[21:52:51] deepwalker: как было раньше хорошо - мускуль и никаких гвоздей
[21:52:58] slav0nic: ds.tihonov, да
[21:53:01] slav0nic: njn rfyfk lj[ksq
[21:53:05] slav0nic: тот канал дохлый
[21:53:06] deepwalker: ds.tihonov, это как он должен соединяться?
[21:53:16] ds.tihonov: slav0nic: апозиция?
[21:53:16] deepwalker: ага, тут гуру, а там так : )
[21:53:17] slav0nic: если мне дадут там оунера то можно В)
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[21:53:28] SV0L0CH: ds.tihonov: почему именно питон? поддался на рекламу?
[21:53:32] slav0nic: это какналд форума питон су
[21:53:37] deepwalker: там тока женоботам дают
[21:54:00] ds.tihonov: SV0L0CH: поддался свободолюбию и ubuntu\freebsd :)
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[21:54:16] ds.tihonov: slav0nic: пасиб, понял :)
[21:54:45] ds.tihonov: а вы для чего используете питон?
[21:54:45] SV0L0CH: ds.tihonov: быстро по ссылке http://nodejs.org/
[21:55:07] SV0L0CH: мне какраз любители ассемблера кстати %)
[21:55:19] slav0nic: http://www.corepy.org/wiki/index.php?title=CorePy_x86 такой вот ассемблер есть
[21:55:45] slav0nic: ds.tihonov, большая часть здесь сидяхих юзает для веба, гуёв и админ задач
[21:56:23] ds.tihonov: slav0nic: т.е. с python+ncurses мало кто работал?
[21:56:33] slav0nic: да работал, на форуме было, лично я нет
[21:56:43] slav0nic: точнее очень давно и ниуя не подскажу
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[21:57:05] ds.tihonov: SV0L0CH: ок, псибо, почитаю на досуге
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[21:58:16] SV0L0CH: ds.tihonov: хочу запилить туда модуль для ffi ибо без сторонних библиотек никак
[21:58:29] SV0L0CH: ds.tihonov: в ffi разбираешься?
[21:58:43] ds.tihonov: slav0nic: ну думаю , что примеров из python-urwid должно хватить вот только надо как-то туда прикрутить python-urwid :)
[21:59:21] ds.tihonov: SV0L0CH: оно сильно различается от tasm\yasm ?
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[22:00:14] slav0nic: чё за yasm? давно ассемблер не видил в глаза, но вроде FASM всё ещё рулит
[22:00:40] SV0L0CH: ds.tihonov: есть libffi.so можно через него, писано в основном на C
[22:01:58] ds.tihonov: slav0nic: p yasm - modular assembler with multiple syntaxes support, оно в виртуалбоксе используетяс
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[22:02:24] slav0nic: от оно чё, ясно
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[22:02:53] ds.tihonov: SV0L0CH: а, ясно, будет знатЬ
[22:03:13] ds.tihonov: slav0nic: ну как бы в linux`е свой ассемблер
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[22:04:35] ds.tihonov: SV0L0CH: а почему -> http://nodejs.org/ <- так похож на javaScripts ? :)
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[22:05:02] deepwalker: ds.tihonov, угадаешь может все таки?
[22:05:23] deepwalker: там v8 внутри
[22:05:35] ds.tihonov: deepwalker: мм... я в вебе не шибко силён :(
[22:05:51] SV0L0CH: это и есть JS
[22:05:57] deepwalker: ну движок js от гугеля
[22:06:04] deepwalker: шустренький такой
[22:06:33] ds.tihonov: deepwalker: а оно только unix\linux или ещё можно в win32 напхать? :)
[22:06:41] deepwalker: не знаю
[22:06:45] SV0L0CH: только он сцуко почти не документирован :(
[22:06:48] deepwalker: никогда не парюсь вин вопросами
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[22:07:47] SV0L0CH: под вендой народ вроде умудрялся ставить
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[22:11:55] ds.tihonov: deepwalker: иногда приходится выбирать win or lin
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[22:12:53] ds.tihonov: deepwalker: а почему вы используете v8 если он плохо документирован?
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[22:13:03] SV0L0CH: wine or cygwin
[22:13:56] ds.tihonov: SV0L0CH: это с чем-то связаон ?
[22:13:57] SV0L0CH: ds.tihonov: для использования он документирован достаточно, для написания биндингов хреново
[22:15:15] SV0L0CH: wine - библиотека для зпуска вендовых бинарников, cygwin - позволяет чувствовать себя в венде как дома
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[22:17:16] ds.tihonov: SV0L0CH: пасиб, разживал :)
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[22:17:48] SV0L0CH: ds.tihonov: в википедии есчё разжованей ;-)
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[22:19:16] ds.tihonov: SV0L0CH: до неё надо ещё выползти из консоли, а то пока сервер настрою время тю-тю
[22:19:57] SV0L0CH: version ds.tihonov
[22:20:13] ds.tihonov: pidgin :)
[22:21:13] SV0L0CH: пиджин систему не светит :(
[22:21:55] ds.tihonov: SV0L0CH: а что ты хотел бы узнать о системе? :)
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[22:22:47] SV0L0CH: дистрибутив какой?
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[22:23:14] ds.tihonov: ubuntu 10.04
[22:23:27] ds.tihonov: и freebsd 8-r-3
[22:23:41] ds.tihonov: я то там то тут
[22:23:54] ds.tihonov: когда скучно в ubuntu иду в bsd :)
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[22:24:36] SV0L0CH: да, со БСДёй не соскучишся :-D
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[22:25:30] ds.tihonov: SV0L0CH: там весело себя ведёт mpd 5-ый, не доводилось его настраивать на пптп с шифрованием?
[22:26:14] SV0L0CH: /me админством уже не увлекается
[22:26:29] ds.tihonov: хехе, наигрался
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[22:26:48] SV0L0CH: разве что промышлеными роботами и станками
[22:26:49] xa4a: /me бы поделился опытом настройки mpd, но боится, что mpd в bsd это не то же, что mpc в линуксах
[22:27:04] xa4a: s/mpd/mpc/
[22:27:11] Darth Лис: такида
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[22:27:24] ds.tihonov: у меня сейчас на повестке дня Freebsd8 + VBox и вживле туда win2k3 как АД
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[22:27:39] xa4a: эгм
[22:27:50] ds.tihonov: xa4a: ты прав, в bsd не тот mpd что в linux`е :)
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[22:27:59] xa4a: там же есть какой-то gentoo-based дистр, который из коробки умеет с вендодоменами обзаться
[22:28:13] xa4a: щ
[22:28:53] ds.tihonov: xa4a: ну как бы убираю из парка серверов win-сервера , а так, да, unix`ы и linux`ы умеют говорить с АД
[22:29:14] SV0L0CH: стрекозу чтоль от нехуй делать поставить? :-/
[22:30:03] SV0L0CH: хотя я тут уже вплотную занялся вопросом парсинга текста и бинарных форматов на жабоскрипте
[22:30:51] ds.tihonov: удачно пожабиться :)
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[22:34:36] SV0L0CH: надо попробовать сочинить чтонибудь наподобие coffee-script только чито функциональное и ленивое
[22:35:23] SV0L0CH: ато в ходе тестировния генератора парсеров выходит только нечто лиспоподобное
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[23:27:58] deepwalker: AttributeError: Manager isn't accessible via User instances
[23:28:03] deepwalker: вот какого ж хрена?
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[23:28:15] xa4a: deepwalker: через класс же
[23:28:24] xa4a: instance._model?
[23:28:26] deepwalker: ну почему я обязательно должен идти и писать пропизивание списка юзеров?
[23:28:30] deepwalker: а зачем?
[23:28:35] deepwalker: ну что плин мешает
[23:28:44] deepwalker: чисто философия угребанов
[23:28:57] xa4a: может есть какая-то сакральная идея в синглтоне
[23:28:58] xa4a: ты это
[23:29:07] xa4a: посмотри комент рядом с тем местом, где генерится
[23:29:50] deepwalker: да ну, пойду напишу темплейт тег
[23:30:10] deepwalker: это не джанго проект, если нет директории с 50-ю темплейт тегами
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