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[11:46:18] _lorien: http://lorien.habrahabr.ru/ плюсаните плиз кто на хабре есть, враги заминусовали ))
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[14:37:02] romzik: у кого-нибудь есть описание функций модуля thread?
[14:37:23] POPSuL: у docs.python.org есть
[14:37:26] POPSuL: я уверен
[14:37:49] romzik: а то везде доки по threading
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[14:47:00] _lorien: http://docs.python.org/library/thread.html
[14:47:20] romzik: уже читаю, спасибо
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[17:01:05] romzik: Вопрос вот в чем. Есть код:
Код:
import thread
def f1(x):
global t
print "This is thread - "+str(i+1)+"\n"
t = t-1
t = 30
for i in range(30): thread.start_new_thread(f1,((i,)))
while t > 0: pass
print "Done"
На компе работает, на телефоне на Python 2.0 работает, а вот в Python 1.4.5 не выходит из цикла. В чем беда? Мне нужно дождаться выполнения всех потоков, и лишь потом продолжать работу.
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[17:03:56] maxp: while t > 0: pass
[17:04:01] maxp: съедает весь процессор
[17:04:55] romzik: а как быть? если к примеру вместо pass написать вывод переменной t, то t не меняется
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[17:05:03] maxp: дожидаются окончания нити обычно при помощи join
[17:05:25] maxp: ну это все для нормального питона справедливо
[17:05:37] maxp: как оно там на самом деле в телефоне сделано фиг знает
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[17:06:52] romzik: если цикл убрать, то запустьтся все процессы...а вот чтобы дождаться окончания всех их, я придумал только этот способ, а он блин не работает на мобильном....
[17:08:03] romzik: да и я не пойму почему t не меняется если цикл поставить...
[17:08:21] maxp: до той нити времени не остается
[17:08:25] maxp: по всей видисомти
[17:08:34] maxp: в питоне вообще нити не совсем правильные
[17:08:44] maxp: это надо учитывать
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[17:09:18] maxp: еще раз повторюсь на всякий случай
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[17:09:46] maxp: обычно в компьютерном мире нити ждут при помощи join
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[17:10:04] romzik: а синтаксис не подскажешь?
[17:10:54] romzik: не встречал такого пока для использования в нитях
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[17:13:25] maxp: интересно, что тогда встречал? :)
[17:13:28] maxp: http://docs.python.org/library/threading.html#thread-objects
[17:13:46] maxp: пункт 16.2.1. Thread Objects занимает одну страницу
[17:13:49] maxp: примерно
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[17:14:48] maxp: там, собственно, знать то надо только start(), run(), join()
[17:14:50] maxp: ^))
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[17:15:15] romzik: это применимо лишь для модуля threading?
[17:15:42] romzik: потому что в thread этих методов нет
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[17:16:05] romzik: в thread вобще мало что есть
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[17:18:23] maxp: это типа как опциональный низкоуровневый интерфейс
[17:18:28] romzik: был бы ещё модуль threading на мобильном Python 1.4.5, было бы немного легче
[17:18:45] maxp: я говорю, на молбильном может всё совсем не так быть
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[17:19:13] romzik: так и есть что кое-что не так...вот и ищу способы какие-ниубдь....
[17:19:39] maxp: а уверен, что там вообще нити работают?
[17:19:50] maxp: а не в очереди стоят, например?
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[17:20:15] maxp: ставить sleep() в холостой цикл пробовал?
[17:21:03] maxp: в разных юниксах дежа нулевой слип обычно отдает квант времени другому процессу
[17:21:39] romzik: нет, не пробывал, но нити должны работать, так как там есть таймер в модуле e32
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[17:38:13] romzik: maxp: ты не поверишь)
[17:38:30] romzik: действительно, добавление нулевого таймера помогло
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[17:38:38] maxp: поверю
[17:38:48] maxp: я же говорю, это стандартный прием
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[17:39:35] romzik: но...я сделал на примере 10 нитей, 10 раз вывел надпись This is thread - 9...почему вот теперь передается один и тот же аргумент....
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[17:40:17] maxp: а код какой?
[17:40:29] maxp: закинь на какой-нибудь pastebin
[17:40:38] romzik: import thread,e32
def f1(x):
global t
print "This is thread - "+str(i)+"\n"
t = t-1
t = 10
temp = []
for i in range(10):
#temp.append(i)
print i
thread.start_new_thread(f1,(i,))
while t > 0:
#print str(t)
e32.ao_sleep(0.5)
pass
print "Done"
print t
[17:41:33] maxp: фиг знает
[17:41:34] Ляпатяпа: за такое тут кикают
[17:41:34] romzik: на экран сначало выйдут все i, а потом 10 надписей This is thread - 9
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[17:41:47] romzik: да? тада сори
[17:42:20] romzik: упустил эту вещь...
[17:42:44] maxp: а , ну да
[17:42:50] maxp: там же i передается
[17:42:52] maxp: параметром
[17:42:56] maxp: переменная
[17:43:05] maxp: она в конце цикла будет 9
[17:43:12] romzik: да, вот именно, что каждый раз новая передается
[17:43:25] maxp: когда нити нацинают работать, то цикл уже законцился
[17:43:42] maxp: кто новая?
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[17:44:02] maxp: передается список, а в нем какая-то переменная
[17:44:36] Ляпатяпа: проблема только в том, что "на экран сначало выйдут все i, а потом 10 надписей This is thread - 9"?
[17:44:54] Ляпатяпа: Может print "This is thread - "+str(x)+"\n"
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[17:45:03] maxp: Ляпатяпа: номер нити не пролазит
[17:45:14] romzik: хм....что то недопонял...захожу в цикл, получаю значение i, передаю в нить и запускаю её...затем заново со следующим значением i
[17:45:32] maxp: нет
[17:45:37] maxp: ты печатаешь i
[17:45:42] maxp: уже после цикла
[17:45:52] maxp: или тебе надо x
[17:46:06] maxp: сначала надо с этим определиться
[17:46:17] maxp: еще очень рекомендую не использовать global
[17:46:26] maxp: без особой надобности
[17:46:38] maxp: просто передай в параметрах нужный контекст
[17:46:39] romzik: мне нужно просто запустить 10 нитей, передавая им разные i
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[17:47:06] romzik: а без global почему то не меняет переменную t
[17:47:18] maxp: и не будет.
[17:47:27] maxp: это так и должно быть
[17:47:44] maxp: в питоне у функции фнутри локальный контекст
[17:47:55] maxp: т.е. если пишешь print i
[17:48:00] Ляпатяпа: по сути у тебя два i - i вне функции и x, который передается в функцию
[17:48:04] romzik: так я не допонял, как мне 10 раз запустить нить с разным i?
[17:48:07] maxp: в функции, то она сначала поищет внутри
[17:48:16] maxp: если не найдет, то пойдет искать снаружи
[17:48:30] maxp: если пишешь i = 1
[17:48:38] maxp: то всегда используется локальный контекст
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[17:49:36] maxp: для начала исправь str(i) на str(x)
[17:49:41] romzik: а,блин я ж не заметил что там ляп =) выводится i вместо x
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[17:50:15] romzik: dct
[17:50:24] romzik: теперь работает
[17:50:39] romzik: извиняюсь за ошибвку
[17:50:46] Ляпатяпа: дык я тебе полтора экрана назад правильный код дал
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[17:51:05] romzik: да я в упор не видел что там не x =)
[17:51:43] romzik: пойду колдовать дальше....
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[19:31:58] erraen is now online
[19:35:19] Zubchick is now online
[19:36:16] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[19:36:58] erraen is now online
[19:37:37] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
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[19:38:04] zarg is now online
[19:40:19] Zubchick is now online
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[19:41:19] ds.tihonov is now offline
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[19:45:20] Zubchick is now online
[19:46:19] serg.makar is now away
[19:46:59] erraen is now online
[19:50:21] Zubchick is now online
[19:50:52] serg.makar is now away
[19:50:53] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[19:51:20] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[19:51:59] erraen is now online
[19:55:23] Zubchick is now online
[19:55:41] tilarids is now online
[19:56:21] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[19:57:00] erraen is now online
[20:00:24] Zubchick is now online
[20:01:22] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[20:02:01] erraen is now online
[20:03:56] Darth Лис is now offline
[20:05:25] Zubchick is now online
[20:06:23] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[20:07:02] erraen is now online
[20:08:03] cutwater is now online
[20:10:27] Zubchick is now online
[20:11:23] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[20:12:02] erraen is now online
[20:13:12] serg.makar is now offline
[20:14:59] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[20:15:03] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[20:15:28] Zubchick is now online
[20:17:03] erraen is now online
[20:19:36] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[20:20:30] Zubchick is now online
[20:22:04] erraen is now online
[20:24:36] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[20:25:32] Zubchick is now online
[20:27:04] erraen is now online
[20:29:24] tilarids is now away
[20:29:39] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[20:30:33] Zubchick is now online
[20:32:05] erraen is now online
[20:34:39] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[20:35:33] Zubchick is now online
[20:37:07] erraen is now online
[20:39:12] piranha is now Teeth, grip, razor sharp
[20:39:23] tilarids is now xa
[20:39:40] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[20:40:34] Zubchick is now online
[20:42:09] erraen is now online
[20:44:42] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[20:45:04] zarg is now away
[20:45:35] Zubchick is now online
[20:45:42] zarg is now online
[20:46:02] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[20:46:03] serg.makar is now away
[20:47:10] erraen is now online
[20:49:23] _lorien is now away
[20:49:42] serg.makar is now away
[20:49:56] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[20:49:57] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[20:50:35] Zubchick is now online
[20:52:10] erraen is now online
[20:54:20] _lorien is now xa
[20:54:43] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[20:55:37] Zubchick is now online
[20:55:56] piranha is now away
[20:57:11] erraen is now online
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[20:58:22] Joes is now online
[20:59:20] _lorien is now online
[20:59:40] Joes is now online
[20:59:44] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[21:00:38] Zubchick is now online
[21:02:12] erraen is now online
[21:04:44] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[21:05:38] Zubchick is now online
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[21:08:43] novus42 is now online
[21:08:44] novus42 is now online
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[21:09:28] ds.tihonov is now дома! :)
[21:09:42] Joes is now away
[21:09:43] Joes is now online
[21:09:45] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[21:10:38] novus42 is now online
[21:10:39] novus42 is now online
[21:10:41] Zubchick is now online
[21:12:13] erraen is now online
[21:13:44] novus42 is now online
[21:14:22] _lorien is now xa
[21:14:45] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[21:15:34] Zubchick is now away
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[21:15:41] Zubchick is now away
[21:16:07] tilarids is now online
[21:16:27] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[21:16:29] serg.makar is now away
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[21:18:44] novus42 is now online
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[21:19:38] serg.makar is now away
[21:19:39] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[21:19:46] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[21:19:48] piranha is now Teeth, grip, razor sharp
[21:20:11] Renji is now online
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[21:22:10] Zubchick is now away
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[21:24:48] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[21:25:43] Zubchick is now online
[21:26:30] Renji is now online
[21:27:17] erraen is now online
[21:28:47] novus42 is now online
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[21:29:47] piranha is now away
[21:29:49] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[21:30:45] Zubchick is now online
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[21:32:02] pzskc383 is now online
[21:32:18] erraen is now online
[21:33:36] k-dus is now online
[21:33:48] novus42 is now online
[21:34:49] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[21:35:45] Zubchick is now online
[21:37:19] erraen is now online
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[21:39:50] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[21:40:47] Zubchick is now online
[21:41:47] serg.makar is now offline
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[21:43:50] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[21:43:51] novus42 is now online
[21:43:53] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[21:43:56] cutwater is now away
[21:44:13] SV0L0CH is now away
[21:44:22] _lorien is now xa
[21:45:46] Zubchick is now online
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[21:46:36] cutwater is now online
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[21:47:31] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[21:48:42] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
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[21:48:51] novus42 is now online
[21:49:02] serg.makar is now away
[21:49:03] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[21:49:26] gigimon is now Да, я здесь.
[21:50:47] Zubchick is now online
[21:51:46] h2rd is now online
[21:52:21] erraen is now online
[21:52:34] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[21:53:36] serg.makar is now offline
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[21:55:47] Zubchick is now online
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[21:58:27] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[21:58:52] novus42 is now online
[22:00:48] Zubchick is now online
[22:01:43] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[22:01:44] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[22:02:22] erraen is now online
[22:03:28] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[22:03:44] zarg is now away
[22:03:52] novus42 is now online
[22:05:49] Zubchick is now online
[22:06:12] zarg is now online
[22:06:49] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[22:06:51] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[22:07:22] erraen is now online
[22:08:28] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[22:08:53] novus42 is now online
[22:09:23] _lorien is now online
[22:10:50] Zubchick is now online
[22:12:24] erraen is now online
[22:13:29] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[22:13:30] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[22:13:32] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[22:13:46] gigimon is now offline
[22:13:53] Ляпатяпа is now offline
[22:13:54] novus42 is now online
[22:15:50] Zubchick is now online
[22:17:25] erraen is now online
[22:18:31] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[22:18:54] novus42 is now online
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[22:20:40] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[22:20:51] Zubchick is now online
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[22:23:31] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[22:23:55] novus42 is now online
[22:24:22] _lorien is now xa
[22:25:51] Zubchick is now online
[22:27:26] erraen is now online
[22:28:31] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[22:28:56] novus42 is now online
[22:30:05] xa4a is now online
[22:30:53] Zubchick is now online
[22:32:28] erraen is now online
[22:33:25] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[22:33:26] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[22:33:34] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[22:33:58] novus42 is now online
[22:34:33] tilarids is now away
[22:35:54] Zubchick is now online
[22:37:28] erraen is now online
[22:38:34] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[22:38:57] novus42 is now online
[22:40:31] k-dus is now offline
[22:40:55] Zubchick is now online
[22:41:01] tilarids is now online
[22:42:28] erraen is now online
[22:43:35] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[22:43:59] novus42 is now online
[22:44:20] Joes is now offline
[22:45:11] novus42 is now offline
[22:45:57] Zubchick is now online
[22:46:16] PC is now online
[22:46:41] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[22:46:42] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[22:47:29] erraen is now online
[22:48:36] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[22:49:43] serg.makar is now offline
[22:49:49] gigimon is now Да, я здесь.
[22:49:58] pzskc383 is now dnd
[22:51:00] Zubchick is now online
[22:51:03] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[22:51:05] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[22:52:29] erraen is now online
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[22:52:59] serg.makar is now away
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[22:54:58] xa4a is now away
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[22:56:58] serg.makar is now away
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[22:57:31] erraen is now online
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[23:00:20] skl1f is now Я здесь.
[23:01:01] Zubchick is now online
[23:02:31] erraen is now online
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[23:08:45] PC is now away
[23:10:52] serg.makar is now away
[23:10:53] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[23:11:04] Zubchick is now online
[23:12:32] erraen is now online
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[23:13:27] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[23:15:22] Renji is now online
[23:16:05] Zubchick is now online
[23:17:33] erraen is now online
[23:18:28] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[23:18:29] PC is now online
[23:21:05] Zubchick is now online
[23:21:48] piranha is now Teeth, grip, razor sharp
[23:22:34] erraen is now online
[23:23:28] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[23:24:18] Renji is now offline
[23:24:20] Zubchick is now offline
[23:25:52] Renji is now online
[23:26:42] PC is now offline
[23:27:04] огыешсук is now Available
[23:27:07] PC is now online
[23:27:33] erraen is now online
[23:28:29] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[23:29:41] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
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[23:30:58] xa4a is now online
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[23:32:57] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[23:32:58] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[23:33:28] zarg is now away
[23:33:30] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[23:33:36] zarg is now online
[23:34:40] PC is now away
[23:37:34] erraen is now online
[23:38:24] огыешсук is now away
[23:38:30] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[23:40:41] SV0L0CH is now away
[23:42:35] erraen is now online
[23:43:31] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[23:44:18] SV0L0CH is now online
[23:44:40] PC is now xa
[23:47:36] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[23:47:37] erraen is now online
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[23:48:23] огыешсук is now xa
[23:48:32] serg.makar is now away
[23:52:38] erraen is now online
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