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[04:51:15] огыешсук: /me посмотрелся в зеркало и решил больше в мексику не ходить
[04:51:38] bobry: о_О
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[04:52:52] огыешсук: угу, сам теперь как мексиканец красный я
[04:53:50] bobry: солнце-море-солнце?
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[04:56:20] огыешсук: до мексиканского моря я не добрался, побродил по тихуане, вспомнил родину да и отправился до дому
[04:56:43] bobry: ну это уже попахивает галлюцинациями
[04:56:45] bobry: батенька
[04:57:26] огыешсук: видел мексиканскую речку, да. километровый мост над речкой шириной в метров сто
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[04:58:13] bobry: а на мосту мексиканцы :D
[04:58:18] огыешсук: bobry: что именно? Что мексика очень напоминает местами россию (только люди все какие то красные)? Так то прада жизни.
[04:58:56] огыешсук: bobry: а под мостом сотня полицейских машин, в теньке запаркованы, красота
[04:59:08] bobry: я почему до то фразы с мостом думал что это abstract thinking
[04:59:11] bobry: извиняюсь :)
[04:59:14] bobry: тока встал
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[04:59:31] bobry: огыешсук: напоминает развалом всего и вся?
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[05:01:21] огыешсук: bobry: угу, ну и народ там сильно напоминает тот, что возле вокзалов у нас да рынков
[05:02:25] огыешсук: bobry: зачем abstract? мне до мексики час неспешной езды по хайвею пятерке, вот наконец неполенился
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[05:02:54] bobry: ну дык, нашей категории страна то в принципе. не даром же мексиканцы в us лезут пачками
[05:02:58] bobry: не от хорошей жисни
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[05:04:56] огыешсук: угу, из штатов в мексику вся граница это вертушка типа вахтёрской, что в одну только сторону крутится. И людей всего ничего. А вот обратно пришлось нехилую такую очередь выстаивать.
[05:05:43] bobry: а за пересечение границы денежку берут? у них там безвизовый?
[05:06:17] огыешсук: никаких денежек
[05:06:40] огыешсук: с меня по крайней мере никто ничего не взял, я вообще в мексике ни единого цента не оставил
[05:07:07] bobry: ни цента не вложил в экономику страны :D
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[05:07:28] bobry: оффтоп — там у вас так же жарко?
[05:07:36] bobry: у нас тут в центральной россии +30 — +40
[05:07:38] bobry: :/
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[05:08:32] огыешсук: нет, это в мексике жарко было, ибо был полдень, а так тут 20-25 с весны держится, говорят к зиме градусов на пять прохладнее станет и только
[05:08:53] bobry: /me завидует
[05:09:04] огыешсук: /me боицца возвращацца
[05:09:14] bobry: да.. тут говорят до августа не похолодает
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[05:09:32] bobry: вчера с утра прогноз на москву в телике услышал, +37!
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[05:09:56] огыешсук: наверное на улицах много обнаженных девушек?
[05:10:19] bobry: за столицу не скажу, в нашей деревне лучше бы их было меньше
[05:10:49] bobry: а то, гм, чувство прекрасного оскорбляют слегка :)
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[05:20:13] огыешсук: а тут на улицах в норме вообще никого не бывает
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[05:24:53] bobry: никто не нравится?
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[05:34:15] огыешсук: никого нет, тут не принято ходить по улицам
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[05:35:22] огыешсук: иногда впрочем бегают, даже если с десткой коляской -- тоже бегают, а каляску впереди толкают на изрядной скорости
[05:35:48] огыешсук: собачники тоже бегают
[05:36:02] bobry: дык ты в штатах?
[05:36:13] огыешсук: а, школьники ещё есть, эти не бегают, эти на скейтах ездиют
[05:36:19] bobry: если да, то оно и понятно — машина ж есь
[05:36:36] bobry: правда думаю в особо бедных районах все как у нас :D
[05:36:43] bobry: за исключением цвета кожи
[05:37:08] огыешсук: ну, я пока не встречал бедных районов, калифорния самый богатый штат в мире
[05:37:25] bobry: ох
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[05:37:46] bobry: head to silicon valley!
[05:38:05] bobry: по стопам президента
[05:38:07] bobry: так сказать
[05:38:20] огыешсук: до силикона от меня далеко, с тыщу километров :o(
[05:38:25] огыешсук: А то б съездил.
[05:38:33] огыешсук: А на самолете летать денег жалко.
[05:39:11] bobry: автобас?
[05:39:21] bobry: транспорт бедных и все такое
[05:39:22] огыешсук: если под силиконом считать кремний, а так -- до голливуда километров с полтораста, там был, ничего интересного
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[05:39:56] огыешсук: bobry: тыща километров на любом колесном транспорте это далеко
[05:40:03] bobry: ну да, но если очень хочется
[05:40:46] огыешсук: если очень хочется, то можно слетать, но чего я там не видел? парада голубых в сан-франциско? музея компьютерной техники неподалеку от офиса гугла?
[05:41:05] bobry: кстати парад голубых наверное прикольно
[05:41:11] bobry: в столицах вон запрещают все
[05:41:17] bobry: надо же посмотреть как у людей та
[05:41:40] bobry: а ты какими судьбами в CA та?
[05:41:43] bobry: ворк — тревел?
[05:42:06] огыешсук: нет, простая командировка
[05:42:43] bobry: я не уверен что понимаю смысл этой фразы
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[05:42:51] bobry: это когда с ворка по бизнесу засылают?
[05:44:02] огыешсук: w&t в студенческое время не сподобился, теперь жалею, небось побудь я тут в студенчестве лето-другое сейчас меня бы лучше понимали, а не с любопытством уточняли а что за у меня акцент такой
[05:44:11] bobry: )
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[05:44:28] bobry: связь между w&t и уровнем языка не всегда прямая)
[05:44:49] bobry: у меня знакомый скатался, как не знал языка, так и не узнал. разве что языковой барьер порушил
[05:45:02] bobry: другое дело, шо кому надо тот научится конечно же
[05:45:12] огыешсук: вот-вот, барьер порушить для начала, уже неплохо
[05:45:39] bobry: ну дык это из нужды я думаю
[05:45:42] bobry: шо там с барьером то делать
[05:45:54] bobry: общаться то тока на заморском приходится
[05:46:42] огыешсук: а ты чего не полетел сюда? и не жарко и денег тут вроде поболе платят
[05:46:52] bobry: дык учуся пока
[05:46:57] огыешсук: летом то?
[05:47:03] bobry: а, летом тут другой бизнес
[05:47:17] bobry: на w&t мани не хватило
[05:47:37] огыешсук: а сколько там и за что?
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[05:47:48] bobry: ну билеты >$1000
[05:48:00] bobry: + контора которая эту тему организует столько же хочет обычно
[05:48:04] bobry: если не больше
[05:48:22] bobry: и контор не так много, так шо конкуренция -> 0
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[05:51:49] огыешсук: типа сначала платишь два килобакса а потом уже летишь на готовое место и работаешь? ну так чего б в банке кредит под такое дело не взять? а с первой же получки не погасить удалённо?
[05:52:12] bobry: ну первая проблема это то что ты платишь вперед
[05:52:22] bobry: вторая что вероятность что ты окупишь расходы не такая уж и выскоая
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[05:52:48] bobry: потому что контора которая в нашей стране тебе ничего не гарантирует, в плане жилья и работы можешь пролететь спокойно
[05:53:23] bobry: и историй таких куча, када народ прилетал, и жить негде и работать не берут. выкручивались правда все равно потом
[05:53:32] огыешсук: у меня знакомые что летали по этому делу, от двух до четырёх в результате получали, плюс опыт
[05:53:42] bobry: it depends
[05:53:47] bobry: кем работали?
[05:54:00] огыешсук: фигнёй всякой
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[05:54:28] bobry: и 4k
[05:57:08] огыешсук: так это за лето
[05:57:39] огыешсук: чистый доход, что привезли, за вычетом всех расходов
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[05:57:49] bobry: нехило получается
[05:58:10] огыешсук: нехило бы получилось, если бы за каждый месяц по столько было
[05:58:21] огыешсук: а так "неплохо для студента"
[05:59:09] bobry: я отстал от жизни :D
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[08:45:12] wiz: где у emacs настройка чтобы парные скобки подсвечивал?\
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[10:17:49] Ганж: qtree и checkbox в ячейки qtable засунуть только через itemdelegate можно?
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[10:31:58] xa4a: приехол. таки ноут с четверга на hibernate-ram не дожил
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[10:35:14] bobry: Ганж: QTree в QTable?
[10:35:15] bobry: O_O
[10:36:08] Ганж: ага))) желательно путь к файлу в виде дерева отображать))
[10:36:16] bobry: это месиво какое то
[10:36:23] bobry: может сразу QTree взять за основу?
[10:37:20] Ганж: список измененных файлов и напротив каждого чекбокс. с QTree такое прокатит?
[10:38:03] bobry: чекбокс точно можно
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[10:38:45] Ганж: через itemdelegate только?
[10:38:57] bobry: я уже не помню, по моему это фича QTree
[10:39:08] Ганж: спасибо :-)
[10:39:11] bobry: надо посмотреть какой нить код,секунду
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[10:40:32] bobry: чета не могу ничего найти толкового
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[11:06:53] Ляпатяпа: опера сучка больно умная
[11:07:02] Ляпатяпа: не дает залогиниться на локалхосте через опенайди
[11:07:23] bobry: а че недает та?
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[11:08:03] Ляпатяпа: internal error получается в траке
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[11:08:19] Ляпатяпа: KeyError: openid .return_to
[11:08:25] bobry: а, я думал она шо пишет там
[11:08:30] Ляпатяпа: до этого писала
[11:08:31] bobry: про безопасность или еще чего
[11:08:37] Ляпатяпа: угу, про безопасность
[11:08:56] Ляпатяпа: типа сервант на локалхост перекидывает
[11:09:02] wiz: типа на 127 могут наипать?
[11:09:03] Ляпатяпа: а хули ему еще делать, он же опенайди
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[11:09:38] Ляпатяпа: надо походу личный трак в большой инет выводить
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[11:11:56] Ляпатяпа: блин, у меня на домашнем серваке дебиан, а в нем нет пакета trac-openid
[11:12:00] Ляпатяпа: а на убунту есть
[11:12:08] Ляпатяпа: печально
[11:12:46] Ляпатяпа: до старкрафта осталось меньше 12 часов
[11:12:55] wiz: о
[11:12:57] Ляпатяпа: можно за это время винду поставить=)
[11:12:59] nuclearworm is now I'm available.
[11:13:01] cutwater: о и тут фанаты старкрафта
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[11:13:17] cutwater: /me будет честно ждать пока взломают
[11:13:18] Ляпатяпа: как тебе сказать, я в детстве рубился
[11:13:32] Ляпатяпа: так что интерес есть
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[12:47:47] Патриот: привет всем, подскажите способ как искать от чего сегфолтится прога, использую pygame она вылетает с Fatal Python error: (pygame parachute) Segmentation Fault
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[12:50:12] bobry: ого, сегфолты в питоне это серьезно :)
[12:50:17] bobry: ты уверен что pygame собралась нормально?
[12:50:27] bobry: и все сишные зависимости для нее стоят?
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[12:53:51] Патриот: да
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[12:54:05] Патриот: сегфолт вылетает спустя какое то время
[12:54:28] Патриот: прога активно крутится минут 15-40, затем сегфолт
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[12:55:49] bobry: хм
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[12:56:04] bobry: не знаю, надо код смареть — так сложно сказать. может передаешь что не туда
[12:56:18] Typhon: pdb
[12:56:24] bobry: agreed
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[12:57:21] Патриот: pdb не поможет, походу валится в разных местах, поэтому предварительно некуда set_trace вставить
[12:57:55] bobry: это уже магия какая то
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[12:58:28] Патриот: я еще _threadedselect из Twisted может из-за него...
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[13:00:03] deepwalker: Патриот, скорее из-за кривостей в С области, а потому твистед там вряд ли каким то боком
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[13:01:41] Патриот: а как то можно определить где валится код? в какой библиотеке?
[13:02:12] deepwalker: кору бы как-то получить
[13:02:21] bobry: кору?)
[13:02:22] deepwalker: и gdb по ней полазить
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[13:02:52] Патриот: bobry: а что такое agreed?
[13:03:01] bobry: ==согласен
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[13:04:58] mishok13: ulimit -c 99999999 и потом по корке gdb
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[13:05:16] mishok13: ulimit -c unlimited даже
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[13:06:35] Патриот: а как эту корку получить?
[13:07:04] mishok13: лимиты поднял и получишь корку
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[13:07:44] Патриот: спс, попробую
[13:07:52] deepwalker: mishok13, как так?
[13:08:07] deepwalker: хочешь сказать корку ядра?
[13:08:14] mishok13: core dump
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[13:08:32] mishok13: по умолчанию на большинстве систем ulimit -c == 0
[13:08:45] mishok13: поэтому корка не вываливается
[13:08:57] deepwalker: а, полезно, tnx
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[13:10:22] Патриот: mishok13: а у меня: ulimit - выдает unlimited значит он уже стоял в unlimited ?

[13:10:35] mishok13: уже стояли
[13:10:38] mishok13: *стоял
[13:10:42] nmk: Патриот: набери ulimit -c
[13:10:47] mishok13: ls -al core*
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[13:11:01] mishok13: в рабочей директории
[13:11:13] mishok13: может у тебя даже есть что проанализировать
[13:11:47] Патриот: ls -al core - я конечно попробую когда в лед раз рухнет, но сомневаю что не заметил бы лишний файл..
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[13:12:19] Патриот: nmk: ulimit -c выдает 0
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[13:12:27] nmk: ну вот поставь в unlimited :)
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[13:17:16] Патриот: nmk: аха, спс, уже запустил, жду падения
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[13:19:04] Ляпатяпа: желаю тебе удачного падения
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[13:21:13] Патриот: о, упало
[13:21:17] Патриот: кора 85 метров
[13:21:25] Патриот: пошел читать про gdb
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[13:36:01] slav0nic: млять китайский спам стал приходить%)
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[13:39:07] bobry: че пишут?
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[13:41:48] slav0nic: чёт на китайском про двд
[13:42:26] slav0nic: мля даж японский и тайваньский етсь, игры, двд, виагра)
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[13:43:38] bobry: стараются D:
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[13:59:49] Ляпатяпа: Javascript — один из тех языков (включая Ruby и Python), которые были созданы в последние десять лет в ответ на растущую сложность С++ и Java.
[14:00:08] POPSuL: бггг
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[14:00:28] mishok13: шо
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[14:00:55] slav0nic: js я так до сих пор и не постиг)
[14:01:07] POPSuL: растущая сложность спп, пиздец... будто с каждым днём спп сложнее и сложнее
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[14:01:59] Ляпатяпа: если что, то это цитата из очередной желтушной статьи на хабре
[14:02:03] Ляпатяпа: хабр уже не торт
[14:02:32] POPSuL: да и предназначение у жс совсем другое чем у остальных языков, так что он не мог быть создан для "облегчения написания кода" ;/
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[14:02:45] slav0nic: http://infoworld.com/d/developer-world/google-executive-frustrated-java-c-complexity-375 отсюда чтоли?
[14:03:05] slav0nic: "I think these languages are too hard to use, too subtle, too intricate. They're far too verbose and their subtlety, intricacy and verbosity seem to be increasing over time," Pike said. "They're oversold, and used far too broadly."
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[14:03:32] slav0nic: а ёпт, есть и такая цитата)
[14:03:52] Typhon: все говно, один Го хороший, ага
[14:03:56] Typhon: %)
[14:04:03] Патриот is now online
[14:04:15] bobry: тот кто говорит что js хороший никогда на нем не писал
[14:04:18] bobry: :/
[14:04:30] bobry: недоразумение в браузере ...
[14:04:32] POPSuL: я на нём писал
[14:04:40] slav0nic: а завтра старкрафт2 выходит ...
[14:04:41] POPSuL: и я говорю что он хороший
[14:04:48] bobry: POPSuL: proof?
[14:04:51] POPSuL: а хороший потому что больше ничё нету
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[14:05:00] bobry: окей, это не аргумент
[14:05:07] slav0nic: а чё писал то?
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[14:05:19] bobry: slav0nic: сегодня вроде выходит то не?
[14:05:23] POPSuL: был бы питон вместо жс было бы круто...))
[14:05:41] slav0nic: bobry, 27 ж
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[14:05:53] bobry: хмхм
[14:06:48] POPSuL: давайте запилим питоны в браузеры :3
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[14:07:25] SV0L0CH: POPSuL: дык уже
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[14:07:59] POPSuL: SV0L0CH: где? линк в студию ;/
[14:08:09] Ляпатяпа: затея с питоном в браузере провалилась
[14:08:18] Ляпатяпа: это никому не нужно кроме питонистов
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[14:09:00] POPSuL: дык не питонисты не нужны)
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[14:09:08] SV0L0CH: http://www.activestate.com/activepython
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[14:10:07] SV0L0CH: а вообще можно запилить питон на жабоскрипте и без проблем использовать
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[14:10:19] SV0L0CH: только кто этим будет заниматься.
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[14:10:28] SV0L0CH: и кому оно надо?
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[14:11:49] POPSuL: все разбаловались жабоскриптами) и из в западло писать скрипты для браузеров на питонах(
[14:13:01] SV0L0CH: это потому что питон в сравнении с жабоскриптом говно
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[14:18:15] xa4a: так уже ж неделю назад, вроде, был питон на жабоскрипте
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[14:21:11] SV0L0CH: ну тогда для упоротых питонщиков есть чем заняться
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[14:22:09] POPSuL: ))
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[14:24:39] xa4a: http://www.skulpt.org/
[14:24:44] SV0L0CH: чтоль пойти покурить сорцы хаскеля на жабоскрипте? :-/
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[14:27:07] bobry: ну расскажите мне кто нить вкусность жабоскрипта?
[14:27:19] bobry: prototype inheritance? clojures? шо там еще?
[14:27:32] bobry: *closures все таки
[14:28:04] Typhon: xa4a: скульпт орг старый. в конце 2009 точно был уже :)
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[14:32:18] SV0L0CH: главная вкусность жабоскрипта - возможность быстро адаптировать код под другое окружение
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[14:33:54] Патриот: всем спасибо, поймал я свой сегфолт :)
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[14:35:55] bobry: SV0L0CH: какое другое? можно пример?
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[14:36:27] SV0L0CH: IE и браузеры
[14:36:39] SV0L0CH: самый популярный пример
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[14:37:08] tilarids: вы лучше попросите евангелиста объяснить чудесные особенности яваскрипта
[14:37:21] tilarids: когда explicit и не пахнет
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[14:37:29] tilarids: повеселимся :)
[14:37:30] bobry: объясните мне кто нибудь Array.splice()
[14:38:07] bobry: я не понимаю зачем было делать такой хитрый метод
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[14:38:41] bobry: а еще зачем shift() а не pop() с аргументом
[14:38:43] SV0L0CH: не нравится - не ешь ;-)
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[14:40:37] bobry: «не грызи» скорей
[14:40:42] bobry: как будто есть выбор
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[14:41:00] bobry: лучше бы они scheme туда приписали
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[14:43:02] SV0L0CH: для сосбых случаев у меня есть functional.js с готовым привычным api
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[14:44:09] Typhon: = js говно, но обложившись костылями, на нем кое-как можно работать %)
[14:44:58] SV0L0CH: жабоскрипт универсальный инструмент для занатия костылизмом
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[15:32:17] novus42 is now ♫ Îò áîëüøîãî óìà
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[18:28:48] xa4a: !voice rst
[18:28:54] rst: Спасибо.
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[18:30:31] Sevenov: >[03:44:09 PM] Typhon: = js говно, но обложившись костылями, на нем кое-как можно работать %)
>js говно
лолшто?
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[18:32:42] bobry: Sevenov: штолол?
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[18:36:10] nmk: че-т на bitbucketе цены какие-то большие. за 50$ я могу впс взять и там будет больше чем 25 репозиториев и 26 гигабайт места
[18:36:16] nmk: /me нищеброд
[18:36:34] bobry: nmk: http://github.com
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[18:37:41] nmk: ну там не дешевле. но там есть за что платить :)
[18:39:08] mishok13: бля, на битбакете 1ГБ бесплатно
[18:39:26] mishok13: у нас 20 человек еле-еле на 200 МБ нашкрябали
[18:39:32] mishok13: за два года
[18:41:28] nmk: да на размер то пох
[18:41:32] nmk: вот кол-во приватных репов
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[19:11:29] Typhon: главная проблема: битбакет сосет, а гит -- говно ^_^
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[19:12:00] bobry: дилема
[19:12:14] bobry: кстати гит не совсем говно
[19:12:29] bobry: но битбакет сосет — тут бесспорно
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[19:12:37] bobry: я кстати ждал холивара про js.. а его не получилось
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[20:58:26] Sevenov: >а гит -- говно ^_^
толсто.
[20:58:56] Sevenov: Тут Typhon решил вместо меня посрать хунтой, пока я был в оффлайне?
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[21:00:53] Typhon: Sevenov, "i am the only gay in this village" ? ^_^
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[21:02:09] Sevenov: Typhon, ты там в слове guy сделал ошибку.
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[21:03:11] Typhon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ1l5s3vr-4 просвещяйся, не только ж тебе нашу рашу смотреть
[21:03:17] tilarids: Sevenov, ты вышел из запоя? Давно тебя не было видно :)
[21:03:31] Sevenov: tilarids, а чо сразу запой-то? :)
[21:04:38] tilarids: Sevenov, сам виноват, что вызываешь такие ассоциации
[21:04:39] Typhon: дилера фскн взял? :)
[21:05:05] Sevenov: tilarids, а-та-та.
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[21:29:10] alexrussia: всем привет. проблема с django - registration, после расширения полей, перестала работать регистрация, то есть нажимаю на кнопку регистрация на странице и после этого не происходит переадресация :( подскажите что в коде не так - http://paste.in.ua/949/
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[21:30:30] Sevenov: ну как сказать...
[21:31:13] Sevenov: кровь кишки.
[21:31:31] Typhon: /me плачет, глядя на
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[21:31:54] Sevenov: кровь, кишки.
[21:33:17] Ляпатяпа: тебя мама в детстве табуляции ставить не учила?
[21:33:17] Darth Лис: ы, а как оно вообще работает?!
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[21:33:17] Sevenov: Darth Лис, ну оно кагбэ не работает.
[21:33:17] Sevenov: не?
[21:33:23] Darth Лис: не
[21:33:26] alexrussia: Ляпатяпа вставилось так
[21:33:28] Darth Лис: оно редиректит
[21:33:32] Darth Лис: значит хоть как-то но работает
[21:33:51] Typhon: не, "не происходит переадресация"
[21:33:52] Darth Лис: а судя по коду должен кровь кишки сыпать
[21:33:56] alexrussia: Darth Лис страница с новыми полями редерится
[21:34:05] alexrussia: *рендерится
[21:34:21] alexrussia: не происходит переадресации и отправки письма
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[21:36:37] alexrussia: поправил http://paste.in.ua/949/
[21:36:50] Sevenov: а что изменилось кроме табуляции?
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[21:36:53] Typhon: а чо ты строчки то экономишь?
[21:37:37] alexrussia: Sevenov люди требовали
[21:37:54] Sevenov: alexrussia, я требую разобраться в проблеме самому.

Ты же не выполнишь эту просьбу, да?
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[21:38:31] Sevenov: alexrussia, у тебя urls.py какой-то странный. Строки с urlpatterns пропали или же их таки нет?
[21:38:46] alexrussia: Sevenov я просто сократил
[21:38:51] Sevenov: фига
[21:39:01] Sevenov: не в газете работаешь?
[21:39:48] Ляпатяпа: не работал с джанго-регистрацией. советую исходники посмотреть
[21:39:54] alexrussia: Sevenov нет , проблема не в урл видимо если страница рендерится нормально
[21:40:12] Sevenov: да, там проблема не в urls.py
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[21:40:18] Sevenov: я выше написал про кишки.
[21:41:28] alexrussia: Sevenov я думаю тебе нужно лечиться срочно
[21:41:28] Ляпатяпа: а не пробовал по документации делать?
[21:41:28] alexrussia: Ляпатяпа по этой статье делал не работает http://dewful.com/?p=70
[21:41:37] Typhon: Newregismodel в формах автоматически как-то появляется, например
[21:41:44] Typhon: или сократил, тоже?
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[21:42:04] Sevenov: alexrussia, ок-ок.
[21:42:21] Sevenov: /me ищет врача.
[21:42:27] Ляпатяпа: что значит не происходит переадресации?
[21:42:28] Darth Лис: /me возрадовался что завязал с джангой
[21:42:29] alexrussia: Typhon Newregismodel это модель
[21:42:44] Ляпатяпа: попробуй капчу убрать
[21:42:54] alexrussia: Ляпатяпа ну нажимаю на кнопку регистрация ( submit ) и ничего
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[21:43:03] Ляпатяпа: что ничего?
[21:43:09] Ляпатяпа: форма возвращается?
[21:43:13] Typhon: alexrussia, в формах ты её не импортируешь
[21:43:15] Ляпатяпа: или просто висит и не грузит:
[21:43:35] alexrussia: new_profile=Newregismodel(user=new_user,name=self.cleaned_data['name'])

[21:43:58] alexrussia: Ляпатяпа висит
[21:44:01] Sevenov: Darth Лис, алсо, я тут на днях бэкенд к sqla полностью переписал. Костыль, но работает. То, что сейчас от Joes, не работает с fk, m2m в рамках одного модуля, да.
[21:44:07] Sevenov: О, кстати, Joes тут.
[21:44:18] Joes: а?
[21:44:28] Ляпатяпа: если висит - возможно нет соединения с почтовым сервером
[21:44:45] alexrussia: Typhon new_profile=Newregismodel(user=new_user,name=self.cleaned_data['name'])
[21:44:47] Ляпатяпа: короче скилл дебага надо повышать
[21:45:07] Joes: а почему ж не работает?
[21:45:10] Ляпатяпа: покрутить, удалить что-то, добиться нормальной работы
[21:45:11] Typhon: alexrussia, а импортируешь ты её откуда, ye'fs&
[21:45:17] Sevenov: Joes,

class Foo(Model):
parent = columns.ForeignKey(Foo)
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[21:45:20] Typhon: *нуаэы
[21:45:21] Sevenov: это не сработает
[21:45:30] Joes: знаю.
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[21:45:35] Joes: forward reference тоже
[21:45:42] alexrussia: Typhon from models import Formchangedoc,Newregismodel
[21:45:43] Joes: я даже знаю как пофиксить - завтра залью уже
[21:46:05] Joes: по сути, модельки будут постпроцесситься не в метаклассе, а в момент инициализации бекенда
[21:46:05] Sevenov: Joes, о, будет круто.
[21:46:07] Joes: когда все создано
[21:46:10] alexrussia: Typhon если бы я не импортировал сразу ошибки вылететли
[21:46:21] Joes: и оно сможет найти в модуле все что ему надо
[21:46:35] alexrussia: Typhon ошибок дебаггер не показывает, просто висист форма
[21:46:36] Typhon: alexrussia, а чего не указал в коде то? чего экономил? ужас какой-то, куда мир катится!
[21:46:38] Sevenov: >[10:43:02 PM] Joes: по сути, модельки будут постпроцесситься не в метаклассе, а в момент инициализации бекенда
Ага. Часов пять назад это же написал пиранье.
[21:46:45] Joes: :-)
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[21:48:01] Sevenov: Мне тут просто пришлось забабахать деревья и наткнулся на такой вот косяк. Relations убрал в постпроцесс, но пока костыльно, грубо-говоря в factory.
[21:48:45] alexrussia: Typhon ну если нет ошибок, значит импорт делается правильно
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[21:51:54] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[21:52:36] novus42 is now online
[21:52:58] evrial is now away
[21:52:59] evrial is now xa
[21:55:20] erraen is now online
[21:56:55] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[21:57:37] novus42 is now online
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[21:57:59] evrial is now xa
[22:01:37] rst is now away
[22:01:56] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[22:02:37] novus42 is now online
[22:02:59] evrial is now xa
[22:06:13] Joes is now offline
[22:06:14] Joes is now Yep, I'm here.
[22:06:23] rst is now жаббёр.
[22:06:24] rst is now жаббёр.
[22:06:57] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[22:07:38] novus42 is now online
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[22:11:57] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[22:12:39] novus42 is now online
[22:12:41] Darth Лис is now online
[22:13:01] evrial is now xa
[22:15:19] cutwater is now offline
[22:16:57] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[22:17:08] mishok13 is now offline
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[22:17:22] mishok13 is now xa
[22:17:40] novus42 is now online
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[22:21:12] Typhon is now xa
[22:21:45] kwis is now online
[22:21:58] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[22:22:41] novus42 is now online
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[22:23:04] evrial is now away
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[22:24:13] Typhon is now xa
[22:24:45] Typhon is now online
[22:26:59] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[22:27:03] cutwater is now online
[22:27:41] novus42 is now online
[22:28:03] evrial is now xa
[22:30:38] Darth Лис is now online
[22:31:53] Sevenov is now offline
[22:31:56] Sevenov is now online
[22:31:57] Sevenov is now online
[22:32:00] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[22:32:02] Sevenov is now online
[22:32:42] novus42 is now online
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[22:33:04] evrial is now xa
[22:36:32] Typhon is now online
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[22:37:01] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[22:37:42] novus42 is now online
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[22:38:06] evrial is now xa
[22:39:31] Typhon is now online
[22:40:03] Darth Лис is now online
[22:42:02] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[22:42:44] novus42 is now online
[22:43:06] evrial is now xa
[22:43:07] evrial is now away
[22:43:15] Darth Лис is now online
[22:45:02] alexrussia: все разобрался, забыл сохранить в модель данные
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[22:46:03] alexrussia is now online
[22:47:02] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[22:47:44] novus42 is now online
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[22:48:08] evrial is now xa
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[22:52:02] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[22:52:46] novus42 is now online
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[22:55:48] kwis is now away
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[22:57:04] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
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[23:02:06] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
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[23:03:09] evrial is now xa
[23:07:06] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[23:07:48] novus42 is now online
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[23:08:11] evrial is now away
[23:08:26] alexrussia is now online
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[23:10:31] cutwater is now online
[23:12:06] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[23:12:48] novus42 is now online
[23:13:10] evrial is now xa
[23:16:58] PC is now away
[23:17:07] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[23:17:49] novus42 is now online
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