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[02:45:33] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[02:45:38] tex3d is now Да, я здесь.
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[05:00:46] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
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[07:50:23] огыешсук: доброй ночи
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[08:04:00] bobry: yup yup
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[10:00:20] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
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[10:15:20] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
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[10:20:21] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
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[10:27:38] vint21h is now away
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[10:29:17] Ляпатяпа: а как проще всего тег для джанго темплейтера написать, учитывая что нужен он только в ифе и принимает только контекст?
[10:29:22] Ляпатяпа: и вообще тег ли это?
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[10:30:45] Ляпатяпа: хотя чего мучиться, это можно фильтром замутить, мне надо просто в метод одной модели текущего пользователя передавать
[10:32:45] deepwalker: : ) джанга она дарит радость просто
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[10:33:04] wiz: фильтр пиши
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[10:34:34] Ляпатяпа: и объект, и юзер есть в контексте, хотелось немного магии=)
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[10:34:53] Ляпатяпа: @register.filter(name="is_manager"):
def is_manager(team, user):
return team.is_manager(user)
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[10:35:24] wiz: а что, прям в if это нельзя проверить?
[10:35:25] Ляпатяпа: ну двоеточие лишнее конечно
[10:35:37] wiz: {% if team.manager == user %}
[10:35:45] Ляпатяпа: не, там функция
[10:35:51] wiz: (name=) не нужно
[10:36:06] Ляпатяпа: у меня есть еще временные менеджеры, они тоже тру
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[10:52:48] wiz: а кто-нибудь Scala трогал?
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[10:53:27] mishok13: копрофагов вроде тут нету
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[10:53:37] mishok13: оно же пока только развивается
[10:53:42] wiz: а почему копро?
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[10:53:45] wiz: значит трогал уже? (=
[10:54:20] mishok13: если передо мной стоял выбор ЯП под JVM я бы выбрал Clojure
[10:54:40] mishok13: Scala пока что представляет из себя месиво идей
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[10:55:14] mishok13: хотя документация неплохая
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[11:02:13] Typhon: у мишка был твит, емнип, что надо пощупать то ли scala, то ли кложуру, но теперь нет, видимо стыдно стало :)
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[11:02:53] wiz: что-то мне скаловский лифт не особо понравился
[11:03:10] wiz: да и вообще особого прорыва по сравнению с питоном (для моих целей) нету
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[11:03:52] wiz: ещё бы сделали анонимные функции / замыкания как в жабоскрипте...
[11:04:34] Typhon: да чота еще шума вокруг неё много и народ какой-то странный, кмк, собирается. но модная
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[11:06:22] mishok13: Typhon, скалу
[11:06:28] mishok13: кложур я давно пощупал
[11:06:47] mishok13: когда в питон введут given: я перейду или на него, или на F#/C#
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[11:07:43] Typhon: почему? :D (бредовая идея, кстати, шо там все активно поддерживают, я перестал после того как там попп появился следить %) )
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[11:08:09] Typhon: ( btw, http://blogs.yandex.ru/pulse/?query0=scala&alias0=&query1=haskell&alias1=&query2=&alias2=&query3=&alias3=&query4=&alias4=&query5=&alias5=&period=20100128-20100728 -- судя по пульсу яндексовскому хайпа вокруг скалы больше чем даже вокруг хаскиля )
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[11:08:17] mishok13: потому что это одна из самых дебильных идей за последнее время
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[11:08:30] mishok13: при этом PEP 380 так и не приняли
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[11:09:03] Typhon: ну 380 мораторий сдерживает, так то гвидо даже +1 сказал, емнип
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[11:09:23] mishok13: только щас, после того как Реймонд про Monocle рассказал
[11:09:27] Typhon: а вот почему столько писем было о given/where я не вкурил
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[11:11:07] Typhon: и фьючерсы зааппровили. кстати, ты не в курсе, чо еще будет в concurrent пакете? (я нашел упоминания только Pool и futures, кажется)
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[11:12:17] Typhon: ( Розенталь и Ожегов смотрят на меня как на говно :( )
[11:12:48] mishok13: без понятия
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[11:13:15] mishok13: может трединг и мультипроцессинг туда перекочуют
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[11:14:53] mishok13: твистеда там точно не будет
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[11:15:15] Typhon: а вот я насколько понял, что нет -- типа они низкий уровень будут представлять, а в concurrent будут высокоуровневые вещи, реализованные на. но это надо перечитать 3148 и дискуссию о нем
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[11:15:55] Typhon: а шо, парни с #python at freenode хотели твистед в стдлиб пихнуть? :)
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[11:17:46] mishok13: я думаю они бы с удовольствием заменили питон полностью на твистед
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[11:19:18] mishok13: http://pound-python.org/ <-- это же пиздец
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[11:20:03] mishok13: "When parsing XML or HTML, use the lxml library" и точка
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[11:20:17] mishok13: BS, SAX, expat -- нахуй
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[11:20:41] mishok13: lxml.etree и всё тут
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[11:22:23] xa4a: у них, видимо, топик давно лопнул и вылился в это
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[11:23:51] mishok13: канализацию прорвало
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[11:30:04] alexrussia: здравствуйте такой вопрос: использую стандартный pagination в django , а как лучше сделать чтобы страница были не ?page=1 а /page/1/ ?
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[11:30:38] bobry: никак
[11:31:19] bobry: в принципе можешь заюзать paginator во вьюшке
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[11:34:16] alexrussia: bobry если вьюшка views.py то я как раз использую во вьюшке пагинатор
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[11:35:12] alexrussia: bobry а есть какие нибудь способы с помощью которых можно разбить записи моделей и при это создать url типа /page/1/ ?
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[11:36:30] Ляпатяпа: зачем это тебе?
[11:36:35] Ляпатяпа: гет параметр имеет свои плюсы
[11:37:46] alexrussia: Ляпатяпа вроде же не кешируются страницы с гет запросом и индексируются не так хорошо вроде поисковиками ?
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[11:38:34] Ляпатяпа: а как пхпшники живут?
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[11:39:42] wiz: всё там кэшируется
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[11:40:34] alexrussia: wiz в доках нашел The cache middleware caches every page that doesn't have GET or POST parameters
[11:41:24] Ляпатяпа: ну дык это конкретная мидлварка
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[11:42:16] wiz: ну и нефиг всё подряд кэшировать
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[11:43:30] alexrussia: wiz я не думаю что с @cache_page обстоят дела другие
[11:43:44] wiz: и page не нужен
[11:44:09] alexrussia: wiz в смысле ?
[11:44:25] wiz: а зачем?
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[11:48:43] alexrussia: wiz чтоб кешировать нужные представления
[11:48:55] alexrussia: и время им указывать
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[11:50:28] wiz: а зачем?
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[11:50:40] wiz: у тебя запросы по полчаса отрабатывают? оптимизируй запросы
[11:52:19] alexrussia: wiz вопрос был не про это
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[11:53:53] wiz: а ответ про это
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[11:56:18] alexrussia: ладно задам другой вопрос, можно ли сразу всем моделям установить функцию сигнала а не прописывать для каждой post_save.connect ?
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[11:56:36] bobry: alexrussia: я тебя вчера посылал в документацию
[11:56:46] bobry: там черным по белому написано что аргумент sender= не обязательный
[11:57:24] alexrussia: bobry то есть если нету sender то значит всем передается ?
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[13:51:57] tilarids: а местные макбучники юзают макось или все же есть православные пользователи линухов?
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[13:55:05] novus42: знаешь, у меня есть один знакомый на макбук поставил Генту. Но других таких макбучников не знаю.)
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[14:00:54] tilarids: /me подумывает взять себе ноут, который бы работал от батареи продолжительное время и не весил 3 кг
[14:01:09] tilarids: кроме макбука я ничего не нашел, но маки совсем не linux-friendly
[14:01:30] tilarids: я с iMacом очень намучился, а wifi до сих пор настроить не могу, так как чип не поддерживается драйвером
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[14:02:36] novus42: не, у этого знакомого всё работает включая мультитач на трекпаде
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[14:04:19] tilarids: интересно, что у него за макбук
[14:04:42] tilarids: хотя хорошо бы аналог найти. Но как я понял, все остальное железо - фигня
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[14:07:08] novus42: Макбук про 13"
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[14:10:04] tilarids: novus42, они же меняются постоянно. Старый или новый?
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[14:11:41] novus42: хз. минимум предпоследний или последний
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[14:14:03] alexrussia: вопрос такой как кеш для всей функции вьюхи сбросить ?
[14:14:13] alexrussia: это в django
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[14:14:19] tilarids: 1200 уе == 10к грн, и это еще из USA надо привозить. Хотя, оно может того и стоить. Надо найти знакомых с 13 дюймовой версией
[14:14:21] _lorien is now online
[14:14:55] _lorien: alexrussia, что такое кэш все функции вьюхи?
[14:15:40] alexrussia: views.py вьюха , там функция к примеру firstrender рендерит в шаблон
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[14:16:06] alexrussia: кеширую каждую функцию отдельно
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[14:16:16] _lorien: лучше покажи код в каком-нить пастбине )
[14:16:17] alexrussia: через @cache_page
[14:16:30] _lorien: а :) ну посмотри как этот cache_page устроен )
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[14:16:36] _lorien: там будет видно, как ключ генерится
[14:17:00] alexrussia: http://paste.in.ua/960/
[14:17:21] _lorien: я грю, смотри сорцы джанги - функцию cache_page :)
[14:17:31] slav0nic: я ему это говорил 10 раз)
[14:17:36] alexrussia: _lorien подскажи пожалуйста где это посмотреть
[14:17:56] _lorien: alexrussia, скачай сорцы джанги, зайди в них, далее используй инструмент для поиска по коду
[14:18:00] _lorien: например утилиту grep
[14:18:11] _lorien: вот так grep -ri 'def cache_page' *
[14:18:31] _lorien: если у тебя windows, то тоже греп для него должен быть, в гугле поищи )
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[14:18:43] _lorien: ну или чем там в windows по файлам ищут, я не в курсе особо
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[14:19:29] _lorien: если grep страшит тебя, то из строчки
from django.views.decorators.cache import cache_page
достаточно понятно где находится эта функция :)
[14:19:37] _lorien: в django/views/decorators/cache.py файле
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[14:19:44] _lorien: зайди туда и посмотри сорцы cache_page
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[14:21:05] _lorien: Кому-нить нужен логотип бесплатно? Хочу логотипы рисовать :)
[14:21:17] _lorien: Для сайта или программы, например.
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[14:26:02] Ганж: давай мне логотип)) для проги))
[14:26:21] bobry: _lorien: вперед на logopond
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[14:27:30] Ганж: и иконку хочу козырную))))
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[14:28:59] bobry: деньги вперед
[14:29:12] bobry: скобочки можно и не писать в таком количестве
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[14:29:30] Ганж: <_lorien> Кому-нить нужен логотип бесплатно? Хочу логотипы рисовать :)
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[14:29:35] bobry: я видел
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[14:29:39] Ганж: бесплатно ж предлагают :-)
[14:30:01] bobry: если человек никогда до этого логотипов не рисовал, то родить что то «хорошее» будет достаточно сложно
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[14:32:03] _lorien: Ой, я уже нашёл "заказчика". Думаю для начала мне одного логотипа хватит на подумать :)
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[14:33:10] _lorien: Теперь ищу статью "как рисовать логотипы" :D
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[14:35:58] Typhon: import Image; далше по докам %)
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[14:39:09] _lorien: ну иногда надо и from PIL import Image :) А ещё был третий вариант, не помню.
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[14:41:28] alexrussia: lorien нашел:
cache_key = learn_cache_key(request, response, timeout, self.key_prefix)
cache.set(cache_key, response, timeout)
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[14:42:23] bobry: alexrussia: была бы у бота такая фича — я бы на все твои сообщения присылал ссылку на доки джанги и гугл
[14:42:27] bobry: в произвольном порядке
[14:42:55] alexrussia: как мне нужно правильно сбросить кеш для функции во views.py
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[14:43:27] bobry: from django.core.cache import cache; help(cache)
[14:43:27] alexrussia: bobry в доках нет сброса кеша для всей функции views.py
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[14:43:47] xa4a: alexrussia: смотри исходники
[14:44:07] _lorien: alexrussia, ну вот ты нашёл, где рассчитывается ключ!
Теперь смотри сорцы функции learn_cache_key и вычисляй потом ключ сам и ручками удаляй по нему
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[14:44:21] alexrussia: xa4a я же написал код из исходника теперь надо ключ удалить
[14:44:25] bobry: ...........
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[14:44:34] xa4a: alexrussia: удали же!
[14:44:39] bobry: +b
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[14:45:01] xa4a: !ban alexrussia
[14:45:09] bobry: ого, и работает даже?
[14:45:13] xa4a: нет :(
[14:45:15] bobry: видимо нет :)
[14:45:21] bobry: !help
[14:45:29] xa4a: !voice smacker
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[14:45:45] smacker: спасибо за голос. Господа, подскажите где я дурак. Много месяцев не трогал джангу и видимо всё забыл. Итак код и settings: http://pastebin.com/gLfBenvg В результате всегда получаю пустой массив и No session.
[14:45:48] bobry: xa4a: а чего не допишешь?
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[14:46:08] smacker: чего-то сижу туплю уже пол часа >< Доку по сессиям прочитал раз на 15 уже
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[14:46:39] bobry: smacker: там по моему modified не надо в ручную ставить
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[14:46:50] smacker: не суть. Без него не работает тоже
[14:46:57] xa4a: bobry: лениво. не так часто нужно
[14:47:06] xa4a: если есть время и желание - шлите патчи :)
[14:47:06] bobry: идиотский вопрос — а syncdb делал?
[14:47:21] smacker: делал. И даже вижу, что сессии в базу пишутся.
[14:47:40] smacker: Что если страницу запрашиваю через POST всё работает. Если гетом - нет.
[14:47:57] xa4a: я бы втыкнул дебагер
[14:48:16] bobry: магия какая то
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[14:49:37] smacker: угу. Вот я и думаю магия >< Могу установить сессию через POST и прочитать так же, но при GET снова пусто.
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[14:53:53] alexrussia: _lorien в сигналах request не передается, как его передать, либо какой нибудь альтернативный путь нахождения ключа нужен ? в любой функции генерации ключа используется request
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[14:55:37] bobry: smacker: может попробуешь startapp какой нить с нуля?
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[14:56:36] _lorien: alexrussia, тогда напиши свой вариант cache_page где ты сам будешь вычислять ключ
[14:56:40] smacker: bobry: я думаю и джангу переставить...
[14:57:07] bobry: smacker: и это тоже
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[14:59:22] alexrussia: _lorien а вы как решаете вопрос со сбросом кеша например когда вы изменяете запись в админке ?
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[15:02:29] _lorien: alexrussia, никак не рашю, меня ваще прогать заебало :)
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[15:03:24] _lorien: * не решаю
[15:03:28] wiz: Typhon, ты вроде хилисы покупал, да?
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[15:03:53] Typhon: wiz: нене, Ляпатяпа, емнип
[15:04:08] Typhon: ящитаю, что ролики круче %) или пешком.
[15:04:10] Ляпатяпа: я
[15:04:17] wiz: и как оно?
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[15:04:43] Ляпатяпа: смотря для чего, для всяких выкрутасов ролики лучше
[15:04:50] wiz: передвигаться
[15:04:53] Ляпатяпа: а по приколу можно и на хилисах покататься
[15:05:08] _lorien: alexrussia, мне кажется проще свой cache_page накидать или посмотреть, как используются request/response объекты для построения ключа кэша, для чего-то они ведь там используются
[15:05:20] Ляпатяпа: асфальт не везде хороший, хилисы к нему очень привередливы
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[15:05:57] Ляпатяпа: в супермаркетах типа меги и икеи вообще классно, сила трения маленькая
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[15:07:32] Ляпатяпа: есть форма, в ней два clean_, один зависит от другого. Если оставляю оба - key error в cleaned_data, если только один - отрабатывает нормально
[15:08:15] Ляпатяпа: в зависимости от другого элемента формы надо посчитать цифирки для валидации
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[15:08:48] _lorien: запихать в clean?
[15:09:11] Ляпатяпа: как вариант, но clean и так будет перегружен
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[15:09:55] Sevenov: django создавался для того, чтобы люди думали что написать, а вышло так, что люди думают как написать. Какой-то косяк.
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[15:10:21] Ляпатяпа: угу
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[15:11:27] _lorien: alexrussia, ну короче я б свой cache_page написал бы или смотрел как генерится ключ точно в стандартном cache_page и пытался бы его подделать, чтобы удалить нужную кэш-запись :)
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[15:13:01] alexrussia: _lorien есть другое решение проблемы но нужно знать request.path либо передать напрямую путь. при передаче напрямую есть проблема некоторые страницы имеют get запрос, как сделать чтобы автоматически подставлялся get запрос я не знаю
[15:13:03] _lorien: alexrussia, если у тебя привязка идёт к редактированию объекта, то получается, что ты хочешь кэшировать страницу для какого-то объекта конкретного... получается декоратор кэшурующий по хорошему должне принимать какой-то ID этого объекта и название его модели, а стандартный cache_page скорее всего ориентируется на request.path, который косвенно конечно указывает на объект
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[15:13:42] _lorien: request.path можно вычислить знаю объект и на какой странице он отображается, но это мне кажется кривым способом :)
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[15:14:44] Ляпатяпа: свой декоратор для кеша пиши
[15:14:52] Ляпатяпа: это как два пальца обоссать
[15:15:48] _lorien: я б так сделал:
def myview(request...):
...
object = get_object_or_404(..)
response = ....
return cache_page_SUPERMEGA(response, object)

А этот cache_page_SUPERMEGA будет ключ рассчитывать исходя из object, правда это ограничивает его применение только в одной view, если в разных view, то ключи будут совпадать для одинаковых объектов :)
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[15:16:47] alexrussia: Ляпатяпа ну если тебе два пальца обоссать то наверное сможешь мне написать и в paste.in.ua выложить
[15:17:20] Ляпатяпа: наверно нет, я заебался и ушел гамать в UrT
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[15:17:58] alexrussia: _lorien сам понимаешь реально это не подходит
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[15:19:21] alexrussia: _lorien *request.path можно вычислить знаю объект и на какой странице он отображается, но ведь же этим кривым способом сам cache_page реализован
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[15:20:36] alexrussia: _lorien как вычислить request.path ?
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[15:20:53] _lorien: alexrussia, django.core.urlresolvers.reverse
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[15:26:45] Ляпатяпа: проверяешь в декораторе кеш, токен - в зависимости от параметров вьюхи, дальше тупо запускаешь вьюху, кешируешь результат и отдаешь
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[15:29:00] Kaster: Всем привет. Кто нибудь в винде работает? В частности в Scite? как сделать свое слово фолдинга? для сворачивания/разворачивания произвольного куска кода. Какой нибудь
#Startregion
Some code
#Endregion
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[15:30:04] slav0nic: Kaster, наверно тока написав на lua плагин
[15:30:11] Ляпатяпа: да, вим в винде есть, используй вим, Люк
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[15:31:08] Kaster: slav0nic: то есть имеющийся python.properties никак не подкрутить?
[15:31:20] alexrussia: Kaster в винде есть netbeans и aptana studio
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[15:31:48] slav0nic: ))
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[15:32:29] bobry: не тру :D
[15:32:32] slav0nic: Kaster, http://lua-users.org/wiki/SciteTextFolding мож тут чё есть, погугли короче)
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[15:34:00] Kaster: slav0nic: я в процессе. просто думал может кто уже озадачивался. и есть готовое решение
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[15:44:39] JOHN_16: Товарищи, ситуация: есть класс ,есть его экземпляр. Как сделать метод класса(/экземпляра?) который бы уничтожал экземпляр класса? зы или я счаз полную ересь выдал?
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[15:47:58] Typhon: что ты подразумеваешь под "уничтожал"? ( btw, 'instance.__del__' or 'del instance')
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[15:48:22] Typhon: если ты хочешь классметод, то который из n экземпляров он должен "уничтожать"?
[15:48:35] Typhon: читал ли ты про reference counting ?
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[15:56:21] JOHN_16: примерно так:
class A(object):
def kill():
тут код

и в итоге тчо б так работал:
b=A()
b.kill() тоже самое что и del b
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[16:01:03] bobry: JOHN_16: ты за память чтоли переживаешь?
[16:01:13] bobry: или просто хочешь привязать какое то действие к __del__?
[16:01:21] JOHN_16: второе
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[16:01:36] JOHN_16: и ошибочка :
def kill(self) разумеется
[16:02:11] Typhon: JOHN_16: http://docs.python.org/reference/datamodel.html#object.__del__
[16:02:29] Typhon: http://docs.python.org/library/functions.html#super
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[16:41:35] JOHN_16: Typhon: __del__() вызывается когда теряется последняя ссылка на экземппляр класса.
с помощью super можно обратиться к методам суперкласса. Это я понял, толкьо не понял как это связать с тем о чем я спросил в начале
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[16:44:18] Typhon: ты хочешь "привязать какое то действие к __del__". ты можешь переопределить __del__. в этом методе добавить те действия, что нужны, потом вызвать super.__del__.
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[16:45:58] JOHN_16: да нет, сэтим то рпоблем нет. Привязываю я нужное мне действие в момент когда уничтожается экземпляр класса. а Вот как уничтожить экземпляр из самого себя?
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[16:48:30] Typhon: чисто поинтересоваться: что мешает вызвать del instance, вместо instance.kill() :)
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[16:48:40] tilarids: есть здесь python juniorы из Харькова? Тут знакомые разыскивают
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[16:50:50] alexrussia: такой вопрос: почему то signals.py вообще не запускается. даже полностью удаление кеша пример кода signals.py http://paste.in.ua/961/
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[16:51:36] alexrussia: а извиняюсь ошибся у меня же 1.1.1 django
[16:52:16] JOHN_16: Typhon: наверное то что весь код крутиться "внутри" экземпляра класса. Поэтому в некоторых случаях хотелось бы видеть "харакири" экзепляра, а с помощью __del__() он бы делал нужный мне код. Да и просто знать можно ли так делать, на будущее.=)
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[16:56:27] bersss: привет всем, никто не подскажет как из пхп получить айди юзера по ключу джанговской сессии, пока остановился на том что для пхп не могу найти реализацию pickle, данные в сессии через него сериализируются
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[16:56:51] bersss: нужно для интеграции с пхпшной вебмордой для почты
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[16:57:50] bobry: дык там ж вроде для сессии можно разные storage указывать не?
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[16:58:34] nmk: ооо. bitbucket мне сказал
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[16:58:52] bobry: чета приписывают видимо
[16:58:57] bobry: у них там недавно народ набирали
[16:59:05] nmk: да пиздец. на боевом что-ли?
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[16:59:12] bobry: та хз
[16:59:13] bersss: хм, может правда storage без пикля сделать
[16:59:23] bersss: хотя не
[16:59:30] bobry: bersss: может переписать вебморду на питоне?
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[17:01:13] bobry: ну, pickle.py 1000 строк, можешь конвертировать :D
[17:01:24] Typhon: JOHN_16: ты так не хочешь, скорее всего. расскажи почотче, что у тебя за код крутится в объекте и как, может есть хорошее решение того, что тебе надо :). просто self у тебя в kill будет лишь еще одна ссылка на инстанс. so, удалив её del'ом ты только эту ссылку убьешь (уменьшишь счетчик ссылок на 1). инстанс останется жить. ты можешь попечатать в kill sys.getrefcount от инстанса, чтобы увидеть, как меняется.
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[17:06:58] JOHN_16: Typhon: может и не хочу))) на часах 2 ночи, а кодю я почти с утра...наверное утром взгляну на все это и скажу что за %№" я вчера спорол и сделаю все нормально). ТАк что тебя спасибо за консультацию, а я откланиваюсь
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[17:17:31] Хрюндель: Вот примеры работ Лора http://lorien.name/static/pub/devshark2.png
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[17:18:28] Ляпатяпа: акула на D не похожа
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[17:18:49] Ляпатяпа: если ее развернуть...
[17:19:00] Ляпатяпа: она будет смотреть не туда
[17:19:10] Ляпатяпа: это про верхние
[17:19:12] nmk: в бизнес линч отправьте ;)
[17:19:15] nmk: отправте
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[17:19:39] Ляпатяпа: там обосрут
[17:19:46] Хрюндель: Вот ещё, с Каспером http://lorien.name/static/pub/devshark.png
[17:19:52] Ляпатяпа: нижние для опенсурса сойдут
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[17:20:53] Хрюндель: Надеюсь зарисовки не уйдут Артемию..
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[17:21:37] nmk: /me слать точно не будет.
[17:21:43] slav0nic: не убейте в лоре дизайнерские начала)
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[17:24:26] Хрюндель: slav0nic, талант не убить :)
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[17:28:04] _lorien: о, отлично, мои работы уже обсуждают )
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[17:30:22] Хрюндель: _lorien, обсуждают не то слово.. На чёрном рынке уже приторговывают некоторыми вариантами
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[17:30:55] Хрюндель: _lorien, ты на вконтакте вывеси
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[17:31:39] _lorien: http://lorien.name/static/pub/martamusic.png а тем временем очередная работа
[17:31:51] _lorien: Хрюндель, а куда там вывесить и зачем?
[17:32:03] Хрюндель: _lorien, ну альбом создай
[17:32:21] _lorien: А :) я там альбом с зелёными драконами вчера создал )
[17:32:28] Хрюндель: _lorien, ты же вывешиваешь там всякое дерьмо, а для нормальных работ альбома не найдётся?
[17:32:48] _lorien: http://vk.com/album39962428_114399342
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[17:33:23] Хрюндель: _lorien, угу. видел
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[17:33:52] _lorien: тока надо смотреть в увеличенном виде, по крайней мере эту http://vk.com/photo39962428_174614399#photo/39962428_174614399
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[17:35:34] Ляпатяпа: судя по названиям альбомов, кто-то купил новый фотоаппарат
[17:35:35] Хрюндель: _lorien,
Интересы:
Фотография, велосипед, эзотерика, BDSM

А где же кодинг?
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[17:36:25] Ляпатяпа: очевидной решение не всегда верное
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[17:36:51] _lorien: да, кодинг вполне SM :))
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[17:45:00] alexrussia: такой вопрос : почему то signal.py вообще не запускается на хостинге, .pyc файл даже не скомпилировался , почему так происходит ?
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[17:46:08] Typhon: alexrussia: честно, заебал уже.
[17:46:17] Typhon: /me реквестирует red-agent'а
[17:46:42] Ляпатяпа: импортируешь откуда?
[17:47:06] Ляпатяпа: а вообще +1
[17:47:38] alexrussia: Ляпатяпа http://paste.in.ua/962/
[17:47:59] Ляпатяпа: откуда сигналы импортируешь?
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[17:48:45] Хрюндель: Ляпатяпа, ясно же что не импортирует он этот файл нигде
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[17:49:21] Ляпатяпа: ну дык я так и говорю
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[17:49:27] alexrussia: Ляпатяпа вроде также как и в админке post_save.connect(invalidate_cache, sender = First) регестрирует сигнал

[17:49:32] Ляпатяпа: риторический вопрос, слыхал такую штуку?
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[17:49:45] Хрюндель: Ляпатяпа, ты намекаешь :) Но видать намёка недостаточно
[17:49:49] Ляпатяпа: бля, к.о. заделаться?
[17:50:24] Хрюндель: alexrussia, просто импортни этот файл, а то он у тебя никем не импортируется и всё что ты там напишешь никак не обрабатывается..
[17:50:26] Ляпатяпа: cat "import signals" >> app/__init__.py
[17:50:34] Ляпатяпа: тьфу
[17:50:37] Ляпатяпа: эхо
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[17:50:50] Ляпатяпа: echo "import signals" >> app/__init__.py
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[17:51:49] alexrussia: Хрюндель импортируется в определенном модуле или в любом другом который запускается ?
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[17:53:08] Хрюндель: alexrussia, практически в любом. но лучше именно в том месте где показал Ляпатяпа. Например если это лежит в blog/signals.py то сделай импорт в blog/__init__.py
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[17:53:20] Ляпатяпа: к.о. рулит
[17:53:38] alexrussia: Хрюндель Ляпатяпа большое спасибо
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[18:39:00] _lorien: какой-то хром еб..й, не видит картинки в файлбраузере, если они rw-r--r--
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