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[12:34:28] deepwalker: никто не в курсе - у nginx-a как-то можно autoindex странички разукрасить?
[12:34:45] deepwalker: или придется руками индекс рисовать?
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[13:50:51] deepwalker: та ну не фанси, а просто надо бы flash плеер туда присобачить
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[13:52:14] wiz: fancyindex, там в хедер собачь что хочешь
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[13:54:05] deepwalker: ааа
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[13:57:53] nmk: а никто не видел либы, которая бы выдерала поиковые запросы из реферера для популярных поисковиков? ну там, гугл, яха
[13:58:07] deepwalker: м, блин, нет чтобы шаблоны сразу уж
[13:58:29] deepwalker: хотя фигачить это в сервер
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[14:36:26] Typhon: как участнеги относятся к помещению большого количества кода в __init__.py? причем функционального кода, а не служебного или опционального?
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[14:37:51] wiz: зачем? почему бы и нет?
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[14:39:51] nott: добавить к этому немножко спагетти-кода - и в самый неожиданный момент мы получаем рекурсивный импорт
[14:40:00] xa4a: yummy!
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[14:41:33] Typhon: wiz: человек мотивирует тем, что так "удобнее" и "файл создавать не надо". + импортировать потом короче можно. а я вот согласен с nott, что это ОПАСНО!!1! или по крайней мере, не очень читабельно.
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[14:45:47] tilarids: это не только опасно, но и некрасиво. __init__.py не просто так называется __init__
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[14:50:23] xa4a: можно в __init__.py писать from code_for_short_import import *
[14:51:08] xa4a: вообще часто __init__.py используют вместо common.py
[14:51:30] xa4a: но да, иногда это сбивает с толку
[14:51:36] xa4a: ящитаю
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[14:53:29] Sevenov: http://www.internetua.com/razlivu-nefti-sposobstvovali--sinie-ekrani-smerti
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[14:54:13] Sevenov: в __init__.py собирают толстый и жирный __all__
[14:55:09] Typhon: мне нужно убедить человека. стандартное "ты хуй, если будешь делать ___ " не прокатило :(
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[14:56:07] xa4a: __all__, дада!
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[14:56:50] tilarids: Typhon, зови его сюда, мы будем тыкать в него пальцами и обзываться
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[14:57:02] tilarids: это продвинутая версия твоего подхода
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[15:38:49] _lorien: меня бесит когда в __init__ понапихано всякого :)
[15:38:55] _lorien: как в джанге :)
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[15:48:46] xa4a: непонятный салат, куда крошат морковку, капусту и яблоки с ананасами. вообще он меня бесит, вот
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[15:53:04] Typhon: витаминный, типа?
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[15:58:54] Sevenov: Меня бесит салат в салате.
[15:59:42] SV0L0CH: меня бесит когда пиво заканчивается
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[16:01:25] xa4a: Typhon: это был Никита Литвинков
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[17:36:36] _lorien: Никита - сериал такой был раньше.
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[17:37:02] _lorien: Там баба взрывала заводы. мужиков по яйцам била и всё такое - суперагент, короче.
[17:37:26] _lorien: Устройте меня на работу :D
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[17:37:52] xa4a: иконки рисовать?
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[17:45:18] _lorien: да не, тупо за деньги на питоне писать )
[17:45:28] _lorien: мне уже иконки надоели, порисовал и хватит ))
[17:45:50] Sevenov: _lorien, а, никитА же вроде )
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[17:46:45] _lorien: ну даа.. никитА Литвинков, Литвинков это не русская фамилия, так шо, не обязательно ова
[17:46:50] _lorien: если ты про это :)
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[17:47:22] Sevenov:
[05:58:16 PM] arsemyonov: >Никита Михайлов Signed in
Блин, постоянно читаю как "Михалков", лол. Убивает.
[06:00:51 PM] Никитка Михайлов: меня часто так называют )
[17:48:02] _lorien: Странно, signed никита, а пишет никитка
[17:48:44] alexrussia: всем привет такой вопрос по django: правильно я написал кеширование результатов выборки с помощью низкоуровневого Api ? http://paste.in.ua/998/
[17:48:54] _lorien: меня чувак спрашивает: what is the going rate for python developers in russia currently?
[17:48:56] Typhon: неправильно
[17:49:05] _lorien: я чё-то даже не знаю, чо ответить, кто-нить в курсе?
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[17:49:36] Typhon: alexrussia: http://globalnerdy.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/john_mccarthy_successories_poster.jpg
[17:49:44] Sevenov: _lorien, в москве или россии?
[17:49:49] _lorien: alexrussia, ставь пробелы после запятых, читать легче :)
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[17:49:55] alexrussia: Typhon а как правильно ?
[17:50:00] _lorien: Sevenov, ну скажи где знаешь, скажи хоть для москвы )
[17:50:22] _lorien: в россии я хз... по идее в россии - значит удалённо, а удалённо значит в той же москве или за рубежом )
[17:50:33] Sevenov: _lorien, в среднем, $15-20/hour.
[17:50:46] Sevenov: это в Москве
[17:51:06] Sevenov: в отдельных случаях можно и $25
[17:51:07] _lorien: ну это fulltime? я так понял что фриланс чуть дороже чем фуллтайм
[17:51:14] Sevenov: _lorien, да, фуллтайм
[17:51:30] Sevenov: ну на одеске ты сколько берешь?
[17:51:37] Sevenov: ну у меня рейт 25 написан
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[17:51:56] _lorien: ну у меня тоже 25
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[17:52:15] _lorien: ну это ж за сотню в месяц, я так зарплат не видел )
[17:52:20] _lorien: * таких
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[17:52:56] Sevenov: _lorien, ну так 25 не за фулл-тайм же.
[17:53:00] razum2um: вопрос: как выровнять строку по центру на опр ширине? 's'.format(align='^', width=20, fill='#') не выходит
[17:53:14] Sevenov: _lorien, за фуллтайм 20, в офисе.
[17:53:47] Sevenov: Ребят, я что-то не понимаю. Что в последнее время происходит на pythonua@?
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[17:54:51] alexrussia: _lorien извините что отвлекаю , так правльно кеш низкоуровневый описывается - http://paste.in.ua/998/ ?
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[17:56:02] _lorien: Sevenov, а чо происходит?
[17:56:10] _lorien: alexrussia, ну не знаю, мне смотреть лень, сорри )
[17:56:16] _lorien: и не надо на вы меня называть, плиз )
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[17:57:30] Sevenov: _lorien, на редкость тупые вопросы.
[17:57:46] _lorien: alexrussia, после запятых лучше пробелы ставить :) ну и вообще почитай PEP-8
[17:58:05] razum2um: Sevenov: ну тупанул, да, уже нашел, сорри, самоудаляться что ль? или не ко мне? ;)
[17:58:46] Sevenov: razum2um, я вообще.
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[18:00:43] razum2um: а вообще предрекаю питонофорумам-конфам судьбу убунтофорумов, так что не надо удивляться
[18:00:51] razum2um: sad but..
[18:01:52] _lorien: фак, я измазал стол из IKEA в варенье
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[18:02:13] _lorien: Sevenov, хочу фултам работать за $3k удалённо )
[18:02:36] _lorien: я тупое ленивое жэвотное, не могу себя заставить работать на фрилансе
[18:02:52] Sevenov: _lorien, никто платить не булет.
[18:03:04] Sevenov: _lorien, сиди в офисе )
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[18:03:39] _lorien: я не хочу в москву :)
[18:03:44] Typhon: в тулу хочешь?
[18:03:51] _lorien: да йух с ним, может я и в офис бы походил :) если в Омске )
[18:04:19] Sevenov: _lorien, зарегай ипшку, работай на себя.
[18:04:29] Sevenov: бегай по фирмам, разводи их на сайтики.
[18:04:37] _lorien: Ммм, нет, ну только если just for fun пожить там месяц, но кому я нафиг нужен джастфовановый такой, впрочем, нет, щас бы точно не поехал на месяц даже
[18:04:43] _lorien: Sevenov, думаешь риально?
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[18:05:04] nmk: _lorien: а что тебя в Омске держит?
[18:05:35] Sevenov: _lorien, ну да, а почему нет?
[18:05:40] _lorien: Хз, тупо привык тут жить. А ещё страшно ехать в офис работать в москву, страшно раствориться.
[18:06:00] nmk: ох
[18:06:44] nmk: сгоняй в тулу сначала. потом в москву :)
[18:06:49] _lorien: :))
[18:06:57] _lorien: Ну прям интересно стало, где эта тула )
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[18:07:17] nmk: пряников там поешь :)
[18:07:45] _lorien: опаньки, 150км до москвы, считай москва )
[18:08:08] _lorien: от омска до московии 2.2к )
[18:08:28] Sevenov: nmk, а в омске газмяс.
[18:08:47] _lorien: если я этой зимой не уеду отсюда или не найду бабу чья любовь меня согреет я тут похоже сдохну (
[18:09:04] nmk: так ебать.
[18:09:05] _lorien: последней зимой тут было люто бешено холодно и это реально запарило )
[18:09:08] nmk: переезжай
[18:09:11] nmk: смена обстановки всегда рулит
[18:09:40] xa4a: !w киев
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[18:09:56] xa4a: _lorien: переезжай
[18:10:01] xa4a: потом расскажешь, как оно :)
[18:10:30] xa4a: !w омск
[18:10:32] xa4a: !w тула
[18:10:38] xa4a: !w москва
[18:10:47] xa4a: нахнах ваши тулы-москвы
[18:11:05] nmk: !w спб
[18:11:05] _lorien: !w антарктида
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[18:12:19] _lorien: !w рим
[18:12:34] _lorien: на разных языках меня посылают :-(
[18:13:04] Sevenov: !w набарежные челны
[18:13:10] Sevenov: !w набережные челны
[18:13:23] Sevenov: да, на этот раз угадал.
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[18:20:57] _lorien: http://forum.omsk.com/viewtopic.php?t=145952 ух, жосские зарплаты :)
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[18:22:50] nmk: А после 3-6 месяцев - 12 тыс. И это уже гвоздь.
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[18:23:02] nmk: а сколько в омске однушку снять стоит?
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[18:24:50] nmk: Sevenov: в какой телеком ты уходишь? :)
[18:25:43] Sevenov: nmk, в телекомовский :D
[18:26:02] nmk: так кодером или что?
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[18:26:23] Sevenov: nmk, ну, не совсем.
[18:26:43] Sevenov: В челнах просто нет некоторых услуг, которые я буду предоставлять.
[18:26:57] nmk: так ты в челны переезжаешь? или уже там?
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[18:27:55] Sevenov: Я уже давно тут, решил таки здесь остаться и развивать ит.
[18:28:18] Sevenov: Люди есть, средства есть, спрос на услуги есть. Почему бы и нет?
[18:28:28] Sevenov: Но вот предложений нет )
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[18:29:32] nmk: да тяжело наверное все это..
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[18:29:52] Sevenov: Да, тяжеловато.
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[20:56:37] deepwalker: слушайте, а расскажите - как бы мне так в БД вести уиды юзерам в 5 цифр?
[20:56:48] deepwalker: меня в основном вопрос по созданию нового волнует
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[20:57:37] deepwalker: выборку вот я положим сделал, взял наибольший, и кто-то одновременно взял. Это как в sqlalchemy решить?
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[21:03:04] Typhon: то ли я туплю, то ли ты непонятно написал %)
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[21:05:15] xa4a: deepwalker: констрейнт же на ид. и транзакции
[21:05:17] xa4a: всё такое..
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[21:07:06] xa4a: если кто-то взял ид то твоя транзакция упадёт
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[21:07:09] xa4a: и всё пучком
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[21:09:54] Jartasa: есть кто живой и кто в Qt разбирается ?
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[21:15:21] deepwalker: что-то я в sql то не того оказывается
[21:16:03] deepwalker: привык чего-то редисками мыслить
[21:16:09] deepwalker: INC понимаешь и все
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[21:29:30] _lorien: deepwalker, тебе нужны последовательнсти (sequence) если в postgres или же auto increment поле, если мускуль
[21:30:07] _lorien: при создании новой записи автоматически уникальный id присвоится на единицу больший, чем максимально существующий, хотя можно и по другому настроить sequence (если в postgres)
[21:30:18] deepwalker: tnx, сейчас поищу
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[21:33:18] cutwater: эм... я так понял проблема просто айдишник создать?
[21:33:31] cutwater: в postgresql если что есть специальный тип serial
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[22:03:32] xa4a: serial в postgresql - алиас на integer с созданием и привязкой sequence
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[22:29:28] deepwalker: хм, а можно тупо взять id, и прибавить к нему чего-нибудь там
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[22:29:34] deepwalker: он и так autoinc
[22:30:53] deepwalker: да, и работает в любой БД
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[22:33:56] alexrussia: всем привет, такой вопрос насчет низкоуровневого кеширования: данная функция правильно будет работать ? http://paste.in.ua/999/
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[22:36:11] alexrussia: еще такой вопрос насчет кеширования фрагментов в шаблоне к примеру как правильно найти ключ если в шаблоне такой тег {% cache 900 sidebar headtext.get_absolute_url %} ?
[22:36:49] xa4a: alexrussia: ты же это ещё часов 5 назад спрашивал
[22:36:55] xa4a: неужели сложно так проверить?
[22:37:24] xa4a: и что за термин "низкоуровневое кеширование"?
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[22:38:37] ds.tihonov: наверно на уровне пола
[22:38:44] alexrussia: xa4a откуда я знаю что будет точно кешироваться и использоваться кеш , может быть кешировать и будет а использоваться кеш не будет
[22:39:01] xa4a: втыкни в кеш дебагер
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[22:39:06] xa4a: чтобы ты видел, когда он используется
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[22:39:24] alexrussia: что значит втыкни ?
[22:39:35] xa4a: напиши import pdb; pdb.set_trace()
[22:39:38] xa4a: например
[22:40:32] alexrussia: import pdb; pdb.set_trace() и от этой строчки я узнаю что кеш будет или не будет запускаться ?
[22:40:51] xa4a: да, конечно
[22:41:15] xa4a: потом напишешь только help
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[22:41:24] xa4a: зайдёшь внутрь вызова своего кеша и посмотришь
[22:41:42] Typhon: alexrussia, а где таких как ты учат? чтобы на вуз в черный список добавить
[22:42:08] alexrussia: Низкоуровневый Api кеширования - у головатого в книге так написано
[22:42:20] xa4a: !g книга головатого
[22:42:22] alexrussia: Typhon иди по спи я к тебе не обращался
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[22:43:14] xa4a: alexrussia: почитал бы по питону лучше чего
[22:43:15] Typhon: alexrussia, ну я обратился, чо.
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[22:43:34] Typhon: xa4a, тыкали уже и на туториал, и на доки, и на джангобук -- пофиг.
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[22:44:25] alexrussia: Typhon да мне не нужно чтоб ты обращался не нужна твоя строчка в чате :)
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[22:44:35] xa4a: alexrussia: /quit
[22:44:51] Typhon: alexrussia, это интернет, babe
[22:44:54] xa4a: /me вспомнил древний /quit codepage cp1251
[22:45:00] Typhon: !wtf доки
[22:45:11] Typhon: !wtf туториал
[22:45:27] Typhon: !wtd туториал http://docs.python.org/tutorial/index.html
[22:45:36] Typhon: !wtf туториал http://docs.python.org/tutorial/index.html
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[22:46:29] xa4a: хм
[22:46:46] xa4a: ушёл(
[22:47:00] xa4a: я хотел сказать, что есть ещё один способ узнать, работает ли кеш
[22:47:23] xa4a: !decide "работает" "не работает"
[22:47:26] xa4a: ну вот
[22:47:33] Typhon: :)
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[22:49:39] deepwalker: !decide входит выходит
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[22:51:09] xa4a: о, гисметео ад отложило. сбило температуру до 38
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[23:11:49] Sevenov: Я предлагаю забанить alexrussia. Раз-два - одно, но вот так вот нагло и тупо в течении недель взрывать мозг - другое.
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[23:12:43] Typhon: +1
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[23:13:05] Sevenov: xa4a, впили в пони голосовалку )
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[23:14:11] xa4a: как будет скучно и время - сделаю)
[23:14:14] xa4a: интересно
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[23:23:49] cutwater: блин я жалею что сюда так редко захожу
[23:24:15] cutwater: пропускаю пациентов выносящих мозг нагло и тупо
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[23:26:51] Sevenov: заглядывай почаще.
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[23:28:30] Sevenov: http://www.google.ru/search?hl=ru&newwindow=1&client=firefox-a&hs=0wM&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=alexrussia+site%3Axa4a.org.ua&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=
Чота жёстко как-то.
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[23:33:46] cutwater: да уж. а я тут на плюсцах пописываю
[23:33:50] cutwater: смотрелку картинок пишу
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[23:35:26] Sevenov: Определенно полезная вещь.
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[23:36:58] cutwater: Sevenov: это сарказм?
[23:37:17] Sevenov: cutwater, ага.
[23:37:23] cutwater: xD
[23:37:42] cutwater: ну-с мы решили что нам жутко не хватает под линуксами вменяемого менеджера картинок
[23:37:47] cutwater: и решили запилить свой
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[23:37:59] Sevenov: cutwater, в личкрафт запилить не забудьте, это важно.
[23:38:08] cutwater: а нет. я ж не признаю личкрафт
[23:38:14] Sevenov: а чо так?
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[23:38:56] cutwater: ну ящитаю он не нужен. по крайней мере мне
[23:39:15] cutwater: я поклонник отдельно FF, Google reader, отдельно торрентов
[23:39:27] cutwater: с возможно веб мордой или консольных, чтобы можно было рулить по ssh
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[23:40:25] cutwater: кстати внезапно вопрос
[23:40:34] cutwater: есть база данных с информацией о изображениях
[23:40:52] cutwater: поиск идет по абсолютному пути изображения
[23:41:06] cutwater: внезапно вопрос, как его правильней организовать / оптимизировать
[23:42:18] Sevenov: cutwater, индексируй.
[23:42:35] cutwater: ну да. как бы ответ очевиден
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[23:49:50] novus42: какая библиотека для игр на ваш взгляд самая подходящая для 2д\изометрического движка? для аркад а-ля марио.
[23:50:16] xa4a: pygame?
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[23:50:18] cutwater: pygame очевидно
[23:50:40] novus42: ага, пасибо большое вам.
[23:50:48] Sevenov: индексируй очевидно
[23:50:52] Sevenov: cutwater, :D
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