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[00:03:44] cybergrind is now online
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[00:08:17] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
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[00:13:18] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
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[00:18:19] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[00:18:20] bobry is now online
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[00:21:54] erraen is now online
[00:22:35] gigimon is now Да, я здесь.
[00:23:19] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[00:23:31] gigimon is now Да, я здесь.
[00:23:46] cybergrind is now online
[00:26:54] erraen is now online
[00:27:00] bobry: черт, меня уже забанили :(
[00:27:14] bobry: товарищ spe видимо сильно убежден в своей правоте :D
[00:27:15] gigimon is now offline
[00:27:58] Sevenov: bobry, пакешь
[00:28:11] bobry: да ничего там такого
[00:28:16] bobry: я думал мы хоть пообщаемся с ним
[00:28:19] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[00:28:20] bobry: а он на два коммента +b
[00:28:20] Sevenov: ааа
[00:28:45] bobry: то то я думаю — чего это люди на середине обсуждения переставали писать у него
[00:28:46] bobry: :D
[00:28:47] cybergrind is now online
[00:29:23] bobry: генераторы списков, перл конечно
[00:29:55] bobry: там кстати теперь новый крутой коммент, в связи с моим баном. в алгоритме qsort логическая ошибка
[00:31:54] erraen is now online
[00:33:06] Sevenov: :D
[00:33:10] Sevenov: Терь ясно
[00:33:15] _lorien: Чо вы делаете? Я тже хоч)
[00:33:19] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[00:33:47] cybergrind is now online
[00:34:34] Sevenov: spe.жажа.ком
[00:34:37] bobry: _lorien, да там в pyplanet последний пост глянь
[00:34:39] bobry: ну или так
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[00:36:00] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[00:36:01] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[00:36:54] erraen is now online
[00:38:20] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[00:38:48] cybergrind is now online
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[00:43:22] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[00:43:49] cybergrind is now online
[00:44:41] deepwalker: какой смысл на него время тратить : )
[00:44:47] deepwalker: он даже лулзов толковых не доставит
[00:46:54] erraen is now online
[00:48:23] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[00:48:48] cybergrind is now online
[00:49:58] kwis is now xa
[00:51:54] erraen is now online
[00:52:16] kwis is now online
[00:53:23] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[00:53:49] cybergrind is now online
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[00:58:23] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[00:58:49] cybergrind is now online
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[01:02:57] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[01:02:59] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[01:03:23] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[01:03:50] cybergrind is now online
[01:06:55] erraen is now online
[01:07:50] deepwalker is now offline
[01:08:24] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[01:08:50] cybergrind is now online
[01:09:10] serg.makar is now away
[01:09:11] serg.makar is now away
[01:11:54] erraen is now online
[01:13:23] serg.makar is now away
[01:13:29] nott is now offline
[01:13:49] cybergrind is now online
[01:16:55] erraen is now online
[01:18:23] serg.makar is now away
[01:18:49] cybergrind is now online
[01:19:50] POPSuL is now online
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[01:40:33] _lorien: как послать 600 одинаковых писем?
[01:40:45] _lorien: пробовал в лоб - начинает сервер-брыкаться почтовый
[01:40:54] _lorien: говорит, шо я спамом занимаюсь
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[04:26:53] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[04:26:54] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[04:28:29] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[04:29:01] cybergrind is now online
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[04:54:00] cybergrind is now online
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[05:04:00] cybergrind is now online
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[05:57:51] kwis is now xa
[05:59:02] cybergrind is now online
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[06:04:02] cybergrind is now online
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[06:33:23] kwis is now xa
[06:34:05] cybergrind is now online
[06:37:59] Ляпатяпа is now online
[06:39:06] cybergrind is now online
[06:44:06] cybergrind is now online
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[06:52:53] огыешсук is now online
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[06:59:05] cybergrind is now online
[07:01:15] Ляпатяпа is now offline
[07:04:05] cybergrind is now online
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[07:35:19] Ганж is now online
[07:38:47] wiz is now online
[07:39:08] cybergrind is now online
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[07:44:09] Junior is now online
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[07:54:07] cybergrind is now online
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[08:04:08] cybergrind is now online
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[08:28:00] kwis is now online
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[08:34:12] cybergrind is now online
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[08:39:12] cybergrind is now online
[08:40:14] maxp is now I'm not here right now
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[08:56:25] slav0nic is now online
[08:59:12] cybergrind is now online
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[09:02:14] ds.tihonov is now дома! :)
[09:02:15] erraen is now online
[09:03:57] slav0nic is now away
[09:04:13] cybergrind is now online
[09:04:24] slav0nic: кто такой spe и чего я слышу 2й раз за день адрес этого бложега?)
[09:07:03] erraen is now online
[09:07:36] MAVr is now Да, я тут
[09:09:12] cybergrind is now online
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[09:18:58] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[09:18:59] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[09:19:13] cybergrind is now online
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[09:23:53] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[09:24:13] cybergrind is now online
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[09:27:31] kwis is now xa
[09:28:53] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[09:29:13] cybergrind is now online
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[09:33:53] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[09:34:13] cybergrind is now online
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[09:34:51] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[09:34:52] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[09:37:03] erraen is now online
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[09:39:12] cybergrind is now online
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[09:43:54] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[09:44:13] cybergrind is now online
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[09:48:54] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[09:49:13] cybergrind is now online
[09:51:02] cutwater is now online
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[09:52:36] slav0nic: http://picroulett.ru/pics/142.jpg
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[10:04:23] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[10:04:24] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[10:07:05] erraen is now online
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[10:07:44] zarg is now xa
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[10:08:44] MAVr is now Да, я тут
[10:09:13] cybergrind is now online
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[10:33:35] gigimon is now Да, я здесь.
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[11:03:22] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[11:03:23] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
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[11:04:14] cybergrind is now online
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[11:29:14] cybergrind is now online
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[11:41:29] nmk: бля. ну почему в редисе нельзя setnx и expire :(((
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[11:42:17] _lorien: я expire делал ручками, когда чёрт меня дёрнул кэш на монго написать :)
[11:43:00] _lorien: http://bitbucket.org/lorien/django-mongodb-cache/src/tip/mongodb_cache/__init__.py#cl-75 вот как-то так :-/
[11:43:07] nmk: ручками не хочу. мне тогда еще во все setы писать его. плохо это ;(
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[12:04:49] novus42: тут кто-то имел плотное знакомство с django-admin-tools?
[12:04:50] novus42: вопрос по написанию своего модуля
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[12:09:58] slav0nic: джанго-цмс транковая стабильна?
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[12:10:49] _lorien: А кто-нить делал такое? Нужно обобразить сайт в окне с помощью, видимо, некой GUI-компоненты, которая внутри браузер показывает и там чувак должен форму заполнить и нажать submit и в момен нажатия submit нужно посмотрить одно из заполненных полей и далее уже покуй на это окно, далее на основе полученного значения скрипт будет делать работу.
[12:11:07] _lorien: Ну вопрос наверное, какими компонентами-либами это можно сделать.
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[13:19:29] bobry: _lorien, gtk?
[13:20:16] _lorien: да я уже забил, ну да, прочитал что можено юзать webkit в виде gtk и qt-приблуд
[13:20:27] bobry: ухух, вот я про него и хотел написать
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[13:20:42] _lorien: причём qt будет работать даже на сервере без иксов, где есть графическая консоль какая-то
[13:21:03] bobry: ну да, где фреймбуфер поддерживается
[13:21:06] bobry: правда я еще так не пробовал
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[13:29:00] stogerc: Здравствуйте. Если есть добр человек, скиньте мне пожалуйста пример кода работы с gtk. Самый простой, если можно. Мне нужен простой dialog. Спасибо. Я не python-программист, мне просто нужно в bash-скрипте заюзать dialog на gtk.
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[13:43:57] cutwater: stogerc: just google it, Luke
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[13:44:16] cutwater: stogerc: в туториале для pygtk все есть
[13:44:26] cutwater: алсо что тебе нужно от диалога?
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[13:45:11] stogerc: Я гуглил, везде куча документаций, но мне не нужно разбираться в языке python, мне просто нужен диалог, где будет одна строчка ввода и всё.
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[13:45:43] cutwater: stogerc: для этого тебе не нужен питон
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[13:45:46] cutwater: щас вспомню
[13:45:50] bobry: stogerc, может тебе заюзать dialog?
[13:46:08] stogerc: zenity не катит, а что такое dialog?
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[13:46:24] bobry: http://linux.die.net/man/1/dialog
[13:46:27] cutwater: http://www.opennet.ru/base/dev/linux_dialog.txt.html
[13:46:39] bobry: а чего zenity не катит?
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[13:49:30] stogerc: dialog же по-моему не графическая утилита, или я ошибаюсь? zenity просто не подходит, не могу объяснить.
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[13:49:38] bobry: нет, не графическая
[13:49:44] bobry: надо обязательно графическую?
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[13:53:18] stogerc: Да
[13:54:07] bobry: тогда я точно ничего не понимаю :D
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[13:54:15] cutwater: stogerc: раз не можешь объяснить почему не подходит хреново тебе
[13:54:38] bobry: http://snipplr.com/view/4002/simple-dialog/
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[14:06:08] _lorien: Чё-то я задрочился добавлять элементы на окошко, видимо, надо какой-то редактор для рисования интерфейса юзать :)
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[14:08:07] _lorien: glade надо курить да? или ещё чо есть?
[14:08:21] bobry: для гтк то?
[14:08:24] bobry: glade ага
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[14:08:31] cutwater: pyqt :)
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[14:12:12] wiz: вроде ж glade уже deprecated, не?
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[14:13:37] bobry: а шо там самое модное то ща?
[14:13:45] bobry: вроде кроме glade ничего и не было
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[14:16:14] _lorien: bobry, а ты glade юзал? Вот не пойму, кинул я hbox на окно, а если я теперь хочу его вложить в что-нить внешнее, то как сделать?
[14:16:27] _lorien: не в него положитЬ, а его вложить в чо-нить, ну в другой hbox )
[14:16:29] _lorien: например
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[14:16:53] bobry: я qt-guy :) глейд юзал только очень давно
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[14:18:15] bobry: а просто перетащить то не ворк чтоли?
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[14:21:26] _lorien: да оно начинает жутко расползаться на всё окно :) вроде нашёл нужный контейенер: fixed - там просто кладёшь чо надо
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[14:31:26] deepwalker: а есть что-нибудь готовое для lazy обертки. Чтобы типа не вычислялась функция, пока от нее результат не потребуется
[14:31:35] deepwalker: мне для перевода : )
[14:31:50] deepwalker: чтобы строчка вычислялась при отрисовке шаблона
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[14:32:38] deepwalker: в джанге горка кода на эту тему
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[14:36:54] nmk: так из джанги дерни, не?
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[14:37:51] nmk: саму функцию lazy
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[14:49:14] deepwalker: speaklater
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[15:20:19] gigimon: а что проще, lxml.html или etree?
[15:20:35] gigimon: а то BS в html5lib deprecated
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[15:25:11] xa4a: проще?
[15:25:15] xa4a: etree букв меньше
[15:25:47] xa4a: а вообще для парсинга хтмла — etree c парсером от BS
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[15:27:18] gigimon: парсер BS не переваривает мою страничку
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[15:46:30] _lorien: надо его отшлёпать
[15:46:47] _lorien: lxml.html и etree - это как ваще? :)
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[15:47:28] _lorien: lxml.html - это модуль для работы с html, но он как бы тот же самый ElementTree апи предоставляет, только немного расширенный
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[15:47:56] _lorien: а etree - ну он в lxml по умолчанию тоже чуток расширенный по сравнению с обыкновенным питоновским :)
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[15:50:02] gigimon: %)
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[15:50:31] gigimon: мне нравится хождение по DOM в BS, но в html5lib его поддержка deprecated
[15:50:48] gigimon: вот и думаю, чем просто ходить по DOM?
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[15:52:00] alexrussia: всем привет читал документацию по crsf, не понял а для нужно 'django.core.context_processors.csrf', ?
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[15:53:02] gigimon: alexrussia: чего для чего нужно ты не понял?
[15:53:21] gigimon: или плюнуть на deprecated и юзать...
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[15:53:54] alexrussia: gigimon для чего нужен django.core.context_processors.csrf то есть эта строчка
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[15:54:26] alexrussia: gigimon middleware c тегом внутри формы это понятно
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[15:54:47] alexrussia: а зачем нужен контекстный процессор не понятно
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[15:55:21] slav0nic: чтоб в шаблонах была доступна переменная
от уже
[15:56:26] gigimon: :)
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[15:56:38] gigimon: ну да, для чего ж еще контекст_прцоессор нужен
[15:56:46] gigimon: slav0nic: что скажешь про парсить Html?
[15:56:58] gigimon: так, lxml на винду ставить геморно :(
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[15:57:11] gigimon: плюну и буду html5lib+BS юзать, вот
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[15:57:58] slav0nic: а etree чем плох?
[15:58:18] slav0nic: коробочное решение ж)
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[15:59:40] slav0nic: lxml вроде ж и так юзает его
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[16:08:51] gigimon: хм
[16:09:01] alexrussia: slav0nic так вроде же за midleware делает всю работу чтобы переменная была доступна ?
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[16:09:30] gigimon: alexrussia: почитай доку по дажнге
[16:09:33] slav0nic: alexrussia, авотхер
[16:09:37] gigimon: мидлварь обрабатывает каждый запрос
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[16:09:45] gigimon: контекст прцоессор - переменные в шаблон
[16:09:50] slav0nic: пробрасывает
[16:10:04] alexrussia: *middleware делает всю работу , например когда не вставляю тег для crsf пишет вставбте
[16:10:21] gigimon: slav0nic: действителньо коробочное, посмотрю, спс
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[16:12:25] alexrussia: gigimon просто без django.core.context_processors.csrf мидлеварка работает нормально не возбуждает ошибки
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[16:12:56] alexrussia: gigimon если тег в форму не добавил только тогда ошибку возбуждает
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[16:14:02] gigimon: alexrussia: потому что тег находится в django.core.context_processors.csrf ?
[16:14:05] gigimon: причем тут мидлварь
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[16:24:37] alexrussia: gigimon я задал вопрос про то что без django.core.context_processors.csrf и при наличии тега {% csrf_token %} не возбуждается ошибки
[16:25:00] gigimon: незнаю
[16:26:25] gigimon: почему когда делаю:
import html5lib
f = open('d:/site.htm')
from xml.etree import cElementTree
parser = html5lib.HTMLParser(tree=html5lib.treebuilders.getTreeBuilder("etree", cElementTree))
etree_document = parser.parse(f)

то потом etree_document не имеет ни параметров ничего, чтобы с ним дальше работать
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[16:28:39] gigimon: а если дефолтный юзать из xml.etree.ElementTree то он :
ExpatError: not well-formed (invalid token): line 3, column 17
[16:28:43] gigimon: при парсинге
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[16:30:26] _lorien: а что за параметры? :)
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[16:31:24] gigimon: где именно?
[16:31:32] _lorien: да блин, жабер глючит
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[16:31:48] _lorien: вот так попробуй edoc = parser.parse(f).get_root()
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[16:32:02] gigimon: ок
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[16:33:03] gigimon: _lorien: нету у него get_root
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[16:33:27] _lorien: ой, getroot()
[16:33:43] gigimon: да как-бы тоже нету...
[16:33:52] gigimon: он не распаршивает наверно
[16:34:04] _lorien: не может такого быть
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[16:34:21] _lorien: html5lib.parse(self.response_body, treebuilder='lxml', namespaceHTMLElements=False).getroot() вот такое у меня работает :)
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[16:34:31] _lorien: правда тут я ElementTree из lxml юзаю
[16:34:39] gigimon: угу, у меня lxml нету
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[16:35:36] gigimon: бр, ну его нафиг
[16:35:40] gigimon: BS буду юзать =\
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[16:37:25] nmk: он же там deprecated, не?
[16:38:24] nmk: gigimon: а дай свой site.htm
[16:38:50] gigimon: deprecated
[16:39:03] gigimon: nmk: не могу, там конфиденциальная инфа...
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[16:39:29] gigimon: там достаточно корявый код и 300 килобайт таблица)
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[16:40:02] nmk: стой-стой-стой. там походу ошибочка. ща
[16:40:52] gigimon: я из доки, тупо открыл файл и парсить
[16:41:22] nmk: да я понял. ща. 5 мин
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[16:42:04] gigimon: ок
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[16:42:31] _lorien: у меня тоже пример зи доки не работает с cElementTree None возвращается
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[16:42:50] nmk: _lorien: а с lxml?
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[16:44:18] gigimon: хм
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[16:44:35] gigimon: простой elementtree тож самое возвращает
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[16:45:31] nmk: я скачал страницу http://code.google.com/p/html5lib/wiki/UserDocumentation, сунул ее в пример из доки -- тоже не фурычит
[16:45:33] nmk: None
[16:45:49] gigimon: хых
[16:45:56] gigimon: сломаная хрень чтоли?
[16:46:22] nmk: с lxml, dom, simpletree None не возвращается
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[16:47:36] gigimon: баг в html5lib?
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[16:47:57] gigimon: просто сам xml.tree не распаршивает страницу
[16:48:23] nmk: да скорее в etree
[16:48:41] gigimon: :(
[16:48:56] nmk: хотя. я не знаю. поидее html5lib должен страницу валидной сделать и отдать уже в etree. но эт имхо все конечно
[16:49:10] gigimon: ну и ладно, нчие не остается кроме как BS
[16:49:11] gigimon: эх
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[16:50:06] nmk: сейчас из hg возьму
[16:51:00] nmk: о. из hg работает
[16:51:18] gigimon: html5lib?
[16:51:22] nmk: угу
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[16:51:25] gigimon: окейно)
[16:51:29] gigimon: ща его захвачу тогда
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[17:57:58] bobry: ну нравится ему так :)
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[17:59:50] gigimon: nmk: чета странно html5lib этот с etree
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[18:00:08] nmk: ?
[18:00:26] gigimon: распарсилось, получил abc
7: <Element {http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml}html at 24e7788>
[18:00:38] gigimon: но ничего с доставанием тжга не работает
[18:00:51] nmk: а неймспейс указал?
[18:01:02] gigimon: м
[18:01:18] gigimon: nmk: а как? чет в доке не вижу в приемре
[18:01:42] gigimon: и в доке ваще ток для 2.7 версии
[18:01:50] gigimon: слова на namespace
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[18:02:14] nmk: хотя. стой. врядли тебе это поможет
[18:02:48] nmk: дока по неймспейсам вот http://effbot.org/zone/element-namespaces.htm
[18:04:05] nmk: щас я попробую xhtml распарсить
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[18:04:20] gigimon: хм
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[18:05:14] nmk: хм
[18:05:16] nmk: у меня все парсится
[18:05:46] nmk: list(tree.getiterator()) возвращает что-нибудь?
[18:05:51] nmk: ну в смысле больше одно элемента?
[18:06:13] gigimon: ну во тпример с доки:
>>> for elem in abc.getiterator():
... print elem.tag, elem.attrib
{http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml}html {}
{http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml}head {}
{http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml}title {}
[18:06:18] gigimon: nmk: да
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[18:08:07] gigimon: но find ничего не находит
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[18:08:24] nmk: ща, подожди. найду свои исходники где я с неймспейсами боролся :)
[18:08:40] gigimon: аок)
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[18:09:27] nmk: хотя нет. там же дефолтный. м..
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[18:09:54] gigimon: угу
[18:09:57] gigimon: че ж оно не пашет та
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[18:13:52] suvor-07: Ребят ни кто не знает как с имитировать нажатие клавиши на пример F11.В винде знаю как с имитировать а в linux нет.
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[18:15:28] gigimon: nmk: незнаешь что может быть?
[18:15:34] nmk: да думаю вот
[18:15:42] gigimon: nmk: напрямую парсилка xml.etree не справляется %)
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[18:19:28] gigimon: nmk: нчиего не остается кроме BS :)
[18:19:42] nmk: не. ну ты можешь в find указать неймспейс и все найдется
[18:19:44] nmk: но эт не очень ок
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[18:24:21] nmk: gigimon: html5lib.HTMLParser(tree=tb,namespaceHTMLElements=False)
[18:24:31] nmk: tb это TreeBuilder
[18:24:37] gigimon: понял, ща попробую, спс
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[18:32:21] gigimon: nmk тож самое, только префикс w3c... убрался)
[18:32:23] gigimon: хз че за фигня
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[19:32:36] _lorien: А к urllib2 как-нить по простому прикручивается работа с куками? Шоб они автоматически собирались, отдавались?
[19:33:48] _lorien: gigimon, чо там опять у тебя не работает? ))
[19:34:36] gigimon: _lorien: ну стандартный xml.etree моб страницу не парсит, а через html5lib почему-то не ищет нифига
[19:34:48] gigimon: хотя в getiterator() отдает
[19:35:28] _lorien: какой именно код не ищет?
[19:35:35] _lorien: покажи полный код
[19:36:23] gigimon: >>> parser = html5lib.HTMLParser(tree=html5lib.treebuilders.getTreeBuilder('etree',ElementTree))
>>> abc = parser.parse(f)
>>> abc.find('body')
[19:36:32] gigimon: >>> abc.getiterator()
2: [<Element {http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml}html at 24e70d0>,
<Element {http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml}head at 24e70f8>,
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[19:36:49] gigimon: а вот find, findall нчиего не отдает
[19:37:13] gigimon: но,
>>> for elem in abc.getiterator():
... print elem.tag, elem.attrib
{http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml}html {}
{http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml}head {}
{http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml}title {}
[19:37:24] gigimon: и почему финды не работают хз
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[19:39:34] _lorien: в find используется ElementPath апи, марш читать про него :)
[19:39:56] _lorien: http://codespeak.net/lxml/tutorial.html#elementpath
[19:40:04] gigimon: дык в доке написано так доступаться
[19:40:05] gigimon: хм
[19:40:08] gigimon: ну ща почитаю)
[19:41:00] _lorien: читай, примеры смотри, и это
[19:41:09] _lorien: namespace то отрежь
[19:41:27] _lorien: namespaceHTMLElements=False
[19:42:07] _lorien: а я забил на эти find, findall, просто юзаю xpath() с полноценными XPATH запросами
[19:42:31] gigimon: хммм
[19:42:37] gigimon: xpath чтоил еще посмотреть
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[19:42:43] gigimon: _lorien: xpath этот к чему?
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[19:43:56] _lorien: ты разбирайся уж по очереди, пойму вначале, чо find не работает, а то чо ты прыгаешь из одной ямы в другую :)
[19:44:36] gigimon: угу (
[19:44:38] gigimon: ну я понял
[19:44:58] gigimon: надо выражения для поиска задавать как-то
[19:45:02] gigimon: надо прочитать как
[19:45:18] gigimon: через .// находит :)
[19:47:24] gigimon: _lorien: а указание .// это XPath или нет?
[19:48:02] _lorien: нет, это elemenpath, какая-то херня, отдалённо напоминающая xpath )
[19:48:05] gigimon: а во, нашел
[19:48:06] gigimon: да
[19:48:09] gigimon: не совсем фразу понял просто
[19:48:14] _lorien: XPath в lxml используется только в вызове xpath() функции )
[19:48:16] gigimon: simple-xpath обозвали)
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[20:01:18] gigimon: о блин
[20:01:34] gigimon: а в xml.etree древний ElementPath, не умеет многое
[20:02:05] gigimon: а lxml не ставится, кхм
[20:04:02] _lorien: гыгы
[20:04:06] _lorien: а чего не умеет то?
[20:04:52] _lorien: Как вариант можешь попробовать прогнать html через html5lib и потом уже в суп пихать :)
[20:05:09] _lorien: А чо ты на суп забил? У тебя html5lib не строит суп-дерево, что ли?
[20:05:37] _lorien: Если тебя смущает, что он ругается, ну выдёргивай просто html из html5lib, а потом уже в суп пихай.
[20:05:52] _lorien: но ваще он ещё сто лет может ругаться, прежде чем они там на суп забьют
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[20:12:17] gigimon: _lorien: не, не смущает, прост окак-то сбили :) с толку
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[20:12:31] gigimon: _lorien: он не умеет ни .., ни искать по атрибутам, xml.tree
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[20:12:37] gigimon: а так BS и буду, на варнинг пофиг
[20:12:46] gigimon: думал просто стандартным :)
[20:13:49] _lorien: :D
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[20:53:46] _lorien: блин, каждый раз забываю, чем в IE дебагаются js-ошибки, никто не помнит?
[20:54:12] _lorien: надо шобы тупо показало в каком скрипте что вылезло, а не так что мол в XXX-строке хуйпоймигде хуйпоймичто :)
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[20:55:55] gigimon: _lorien: firebug-lite
[20:56:30] _lorien: он показывает в каком файл ошибка была? не верю
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[21:09:46] _lorien: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/361635/debugging-javascript-in-ie7 - неплохой топиг
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[23:06:50] creitve: всем привет
[23:07:06] Sevenov: чо надо?
[23:07:13] Sevenov: джанга в python@cjr
[23:07:22] Sevenov: /me злоооой.
[23:08:55] creitve: ничего не надо. я просто обратился в python-веру, и буду сидеть тут, набираясь опыта
[23:09:15] Sevenov: правильно делаешь
[23:09:23] Sevenov: кстати, хороший способ обучения
[23:09:35] Sevenov: немного долгий, но зато реально учит.
[23:09:43] Sevenov: Порой, даже хорошему коду.
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[23:11:16] creitve: вот вот. а на гугле, stackoverflow и python.su я не забанен, так что вопросов пока нет)
[23:12:03] Sevenov: заглянуть что ль в python@cjr?
[23:12:08] Sevenov: Посрать чутка
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[23:13:11] zarg: Sevenov, привет
[23:13:24] xa4a: хм. а кто-то за последнее время получал у бота войс, да?
[23:13:48] zarg: подскажите. как передавать переменную между файлами ?
[23:15:00] zarg: типа 1.py -> class bla(object): -> def __init__(self): -> print cfg , run.py -> cfg = 'hooy' -> from 1 import bla -> bla()
[23:15:32] Sevenov: ну
[23:15:39] xa4a: class bla: def __init__(self, cfg): self.cfg = cfg
[23:15:44] zarg: не вариант
[23:15:49] zarg: по другому ?
[23:15:50] Sevenov: я чота не понял
[23:16:02] zarg: Sevenov, это не тяжело . напрягись
[23:16:04] Sevenov: zarg, thread_locals чо
[23:16:08] xa4a: <bad> class bla: def __init__(self): from one import cfg
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[23:16:24] xa4a: (это плохо)
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[23:16:36] xa4a: zarg: ты этого не хочешь, на самом деле
[23:16:51] zarg: да просто тогда надо везде делать global cfg -> cfg = self.cfg
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[23:17:15] xa4a: что ты хочешь?
[23:17:18] xa4a: один общий конфиг?
[23:17:21] xa4a: на всех
[23:17:22] zarg: да
[23:17:28] xa4a: вынеси его в отдельный модуль
[23:17:33] xa4a: и импортируй везде, где надо
[23:17:34] Sevenov: БУГУРТ ВОТ ВОТ ВОЗНИКНЕТ Я СТАНУ ЗЛЕЕ ВСЕХ ЗЛЫХ И БУДУ АДОВО СРАТЬ
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[23:17:55] zarg: Sevenov, ты не меняешься
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[23:18:12] Sevenov: zarg, вопросы тоже не меняются.
[23:18:29] zarg: xa4a, а по другому никак, да?
[23:18:33] zarg: в сях есть extern
[23:19:22] xa4a: ты этого не хочешь
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[23:19:48] zarg: Ж)
[23:19:48] xa4a: ты не в сях
[23:20:21] Sevenov: а в эрланге сообщения, чо.
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[23:20:46] xa4a: в любом ооп сообщения, чо
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[23:21:13] zarg: причем тут ерланг то
[23:21:24] Sevenov: zarg, а си?
[23:21:30] zarg: у си extern есть
[23:21:32] zarg: я пример привел
[23:21:36] Sevenov: zarg, я тоже
[23:21:48] zarg: какой?
[23:22:01] zarg: сообщением ты передеаешь аргумент а не делаешь его глобальным для всех
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[23:22:41] xa4a: zarg: почему ты ещё думаешь, что тебе не подходит отдельный модуль с конфигом?
[23:22:48] Sevenov: в эрланге процессы м/у собой обмениваются сообщениями любыми структурами.
[23:23:05] Sevenov: pid ! {fuckn, tuple}
[23:23:07] Sevenov: например
[23:23:18] zarg: xa4a, я уже пробую — на самом деле не подумал. у этого решения есть минус надо отдельный файл хранить
[23:23:40] zarg: у меня run.py , Master/Controller.py, Slave/Controller.py
[23:23:47] xa4a: бот?
[23:23:53] zarg: ну типа
[23:23:58] Sevenov: zarg, paster, zcml - выбирай
[23:24:08] zarg: я твистед юзаю
[23:24:25] xa4a: по ходу бот на питоне - как гостевуха на пшп
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[23:24:35] zarg: ну там не бот
[23:24:38] zarg: там клиент сервер
[23:24:47] zarg: Master -> multiple Slave
[23:24:51] xa4a: не важно
[23:24:56] xa4a: храни конфиг отдельным модулем
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[23:36:56] zarg: Sevenov, а ты уже играл в стар 2?
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[23:37:19] Sevenov: zarg, еще когда было бета тестирование, было два инвайта.
[23:37:44] zarg: а у меня из под вайна лагает
[23:39:04] Sevenov: неудачник
[23:39:06] Sevenov: ставь винду
[23:39:11] Sevenov: линуксоеды ссзб.
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[23:40:34] zarg: не, винду не могу
[23:40:46] zarg: она денег стоит
[23:41:50] Sevenov: нищеброт в этом итц.
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