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[00:01:28] creitve: сча скрин налью
[00:02:46] creitve: http://a.imageshack.us/img84/3514/scrn.png
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[00:03:41] creitve: тему цветовую наверн 4 дня искал
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[00:06:47] zarg is now away
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[00:08:06] deepwalker: ага, прикольно
[00:08:22] evrial is now online
[00:08:43] deepwalker: PEP-8 читал?
[00:09:09] creitve: неа
[00:09:15] creitve: выгуглил. почитаю
[00:09:25] deepwalker: ну там оформление программ
[00:09:35] deepwalker: есть некоторые правила
[00:10:06] creitve: гг, нравятся
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[00:12:20] creitve: как говорится в пророчестве, во все времена, единожды смешавший табы и пробелы да будет навеки проклят до 40 колена...
[00:12:26] creitve: примерно так
[00:12:52] deepwalker: ага, там причем указано, что нафиг короче эти все шатания - 4 пробела и усе
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[00:13:13] creitve: только непонятно - почему пробелы если удобнее 1 раз нажимать
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[00:13:27] deepwalker: : ) а кто сказал что надо нажимать больше?
[00:13:45] deepwalker: редактор должен настраиваться
[00:13:53] deepwalker: большинство умеет
[00:14:03] deepwalker: эклипс уж наверное должен уметь
[00:15:11] erraen is now online
[00:15:13] creitve: а понял
[00:15:24] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[00:15:30] creitve: да тут настроек такое количество, что по ним полноценный реалтайм поиск
[00:16:18] creitve: ахаха жесть
[00:16:28] creitve: он всё это время и ставил табы в виде пробелов
[00:16:44] deepwalker: но умело скрывался : )
[00:16:46] creitve: только при нажатии backspace удалял весь таб
[00:16:48] zarg is now xa
[00:16:58] creitve: тут даже ширину таба можно настроить
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[00:28:50] creitve: ладно
[00:28:56] creitve: пратчетта на ночь и спать
[00:29:06] deepwalker: что у пратчета?
[00:29:07] creitve: всем спасибо за помощь, и спокойной ночи
[00:29:12] creitve: почитать
[00:29:18] creitve: это автор
[00:29:19] deepwalker: не не, литературный диспут! : )
[00:29:28] creitve: ы
[00:29:33] deepwalker: что читаешь в смысле : )
[00:29:52] creitve: ну в данный момент дочитать мор, ученик смерти
[00:30:19] creitve: вообще мне линейка про ринсвинда нравится, но если верить хронологической схеме, лучше читать так
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[00:30:29] creitve: а прочитать я всё равно хочу всё
[00:30:37] deepwalker: ага, про Смерть клевая линейка
[00:30:41] creitve: да
[00:30:50] creitve: только я чтот о собственной постоянно думаю
[00:30:52] creitve: навевает
[00:31:00] creitve: а персонаж бесподобен
[00:31:27] deepwalker: да, главный философ Плоского мира : )
[00:31:31] creitve: вот только гдет на 80% каждый роман становится запутанным
[00:31:41] creitve: не сильно
[00:32:04] creitve: но есть, накал событий сказывается на понимании
[00:32:47] creitve: сатиры в предпоследних главах меньше всегда, много экшна. не доставляет
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[00:33:04] deepwalker: ага, а мне пора наверное пора прочесть про фещих сестричек
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[00:34:28] creitve: а да, тоже не доставило
[00:34:35] creitve: филлер
[00:34:49] creitve: заполнить пробел в сюжете просто
[00:35:19] creitve: точнее, доставило, лулзов и философии у него много, но особо харизматичных персонажей там нет
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[00:39:43] creitve: ладно пойду спать, если что я с телефона читаю, с джаббера там же
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[01:39:20] creitve: о
[01:39:50] creitve: заработала конферееция на телефоне
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[02:38:22] gf: creitve че юзаешь?
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[07:33:17] _lorien: а как фильтры logging юзать не пойму. Почему фильтры родителей ничо не ловят? http://dumpz.org/21669/
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[10:37:18] slav0nic: >>> re.compile(r'\[b\](.*?)\[/b\]').sub(r'<strong>\1</strong>', '[b]121[b][/b]ss[/b]')
'<strong>121[b]</strong>ss[/b]'
как-то пофиксить можно?
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[10:39:59] slav0nic: точнее '[b]121[b]ss[/b][/b]'
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[10:46:06] _lorien: slav0nic, postmarkup же вроде такое обрабатывал?
[10:46:47] slav0nic: он хуёвый
[10:46:55] slav0nic: там в каждом теге по xss )
[10:47:01] slav0nic: и шота много там кодеза
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[10:48:56] _lorien: ну а если [b]-><strong> [/b]-></strong> а потом через суп пропустить? :D
[10:49:35] slav0nic: у меня получается что в \1 попадает [b] и саб по нему не проходит
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[10:49:55] rud.vadim is now хворий...
[10:50:21] _lorien: re.sub('\[(/?)b\]', '<\1strong>', data)
[10:50:25] rud.vadim is now хворий...
[10:50:36] rud.vadim: доброго времени суток!
[10:50:53] _lorien: хмм, если всё ок, то через часа два я получу права :D
[10:50:53] rud.vadim: Подскажите, люди добрые, как написать torrent tracker на python.
[10:51:10] _lorien: rud.vadim, читаешь спецификацию bittorent и пишешь :D
[10:51:13] bobry: rud.vadim, libtorrent
[10:51:28] bobry: rud.vadim, к тому же есть уже готовые проекты, гугли
[10:51:30] _lorien: вроде было на джанге что-то
[10:51:49] rud.vadim: оно глюкавое страшно
[10:51:52] slav0nic: как заработать миллион?
[10:51:56] slav0nic: сесть и написать ёпт
[10:52:02] slav0nic: ну пофикси)
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[10:52:05] bobry: true
[10:52:08] rud.vadim: slav0nic: +100500
[10:52:37] _lorien: А зачем на python? на php навалом вроде :)
[10:52:39] bobry: rud.vadim, ты для себя или по работе? я бы поковырялся если для себя
[10:52:46] bobry: _lorien, а почему нет?
[10:52:58] rud.vadim: для мну
[10:53:01] _lorien: bobry, я просто альтернативу предлагаю :)
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[10:53:04] slav0nic: есть на гае теркеры и на джанге есть
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[10:53:15] slav0nic: спизди код и сделай "по отцовски"
[10:53:22] rud.vadim: рнр не кашерно
[10:53:33] bobry: ну какбы когда libtorrent есть — в чем проблема то :D
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[11:03:14] xa4a: slav0nic: регекспами _невозможно_ парсить рекурсивные структуры
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[11:07:26] xa4a: In [9]: re.sub(r'\[(/?)b\]', r'<\1strong>', '[b]121[b][/b]ss[/b]')
Out[9]: '<strong>121<strong></strong>ss</strong>'
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[11:08:51] bobry: http://code.google.com/p/funcparserlib/
[11:09:01] slav0nic: xa4a, снк
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[11:10:18] slav0nic: bobry, это всё мы знаем, просто заёб переписывать из-за пары затыков
[11:10:55] bobry: нада то bbcode парсить или что?
[11:11:00] slav0nic: да
[11:11:10] slav0nic: просто quote может быть вложеным
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[11:12:26] bobry: [quote]blah [quote]blah[/quote][/quote]
[11:12:29] bobry: так чтоли?
[11:12:37] slav0nic: да, да уже подсказали
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[11:14:57] xa4a: а это вот, в новом виме ж добавляли фичу подсветки 80-й колонки? не могу найти чо-то нигде
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[11:27:31] xa4a: ага, set colorcolumn=80
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[11:44:48] Tony: Unknown option. а так полезно было бы, да.
[11:46:57] xa4a: 73
[11:46:59] xa4a: vim-73
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[11:48:43] Tony: опа опа. а там backward compatibility для старых конфигов есть?
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[12:47:32] _lorien: Печкин: — Это почему я раньше злой был? Потому что у меня велосипеда не было. А теперь, когда у меня и самокат украли, я просто убивать буду! :D
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[12:53:41] nmk: а кто с babelем дружит? откуда брать .dat файлы для localedata ?
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[13:04:06] xa4a: Tony: да
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[13:06:14] bobry: _lorien, подсел на однострочные анекдоты?)
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[13:10:28] slav0nic: подсел он давно и не на анекдоты :P
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[13:20:12] огыешсук: _lorien: - -Я ведь почему такой злой был? Потому что у меня велосипед был без сиденья
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[13:39:54] creitve: всем дня
[13:40:20] creitve: посоветуйте как можно привязать приложение к машине.
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[13:40:56] creitve: нужно, чтобы ключ для шифрования брался например, в зависимости от железа и т.п.
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[13:45:23] огыешсук: привяжи к IMEI, например
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[13:46:01] creitve: эмм, а он не только на телефонах
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[13:48:01] gigimon: к номеру проца например
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[13:54:20] xa4a: на питоне софт? О.о
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[13:54:36] xa4a: нужно проверять сетчатку
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[13:56:03] avida: Привет, если у меня есть хостинг который поддерживает пайтон, но я не знаю, есть ли на нем джанго, это реально развернуть проект на джанго на этом хостинге?
[13:56:40] xa4a: да
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[13:57:05] avida: круто, спасибо
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[14:00:08] gigimon: подскажите по BS, есть таблица, в ней куча:
<tr><td class="tdrow3"><a href="?r=servers&d=modify_phys&id=262"><b>Text1</b></a>()</td><td class="tdrow3">TEXT2</td><td class="tdrow3">TEXT3</td><td class="tdrow3"><a href="/url">TEXT4</a></td><td class="tdrow3">Cервер</td></tr>
TEXT у всех разный, н оу некоторых TEXT4 одинаковый, как мне по нему найти все объекты tr? кроме как найти через finAll('td',text=text4).parent.parent ?
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[14:01:30] xa4a: xpath
[14:01:46] xa4a: !g xpath predicates
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[14:02:09] gigimon: xa4a: ок
[14:02:27] gigimon: xa4a: а BS xpath умеет?
[14:02:32] creitve: а без win32com можно определить серийник процессора или материнки?
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[14:03:10] bobry: creitve, в linux можно и без него :D
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[14:03:26] creitve: а в win?
[14:03:29] xa4a: creitve: ты про питон?
[14:03:33] creitve: да
[14:03:47] xa4a: в питоне можно открыть исходник и закомментировать проверку, если что
[14:04:02] огыешсук: не-а
[14:04:03] gigimon: условие на проверку ос...
[14:04:06] огыешсук: если оно pyo
[14:04:26] creitve: а зачем комментировать, я сам проверку пишу
[14:04:44] creitve: а понял, да понятно что это защита от дурака
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[14:05:08] xa4a: ок
[14:05:21] xa4a: а чем в32сом не подходит?
[14:05:23] creitve: но просто целевая аудитория люди 50+, врядли додумаются, а кому надо - и так сломают.
[14:05:46] xa4a: не софт для коллекционеров? :)
[14:05:47] creitve: я просто еще не знаком с публикацией приложений. все эти библиотеки упаковываются в дистр, так?
[14:06:02] gigimon: как захочешь, таку и упакуются
[14:06:34] creitve: ясно. а как привязать к софту? к операционке можно?
[14:06:44] огыешсук: обычно либы поставляются в виде ,zip`а с .pyo`шками
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[14:07:13] xa4a: огыешсук: .pyo нельзя, что ли, декомпилировать?
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[14:08:02] огыешсук: xa4a: да хоть .so декомпилируй, если маны хватит; но согласись, что это не столь элементарно как открыть в нотепаде исходник
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[14:08:54] xa4a: угу
[14:08:55] bobry: в pyo не байткод?
[14:09:04] xa4a: он, вроде
[14:09:35] avida: в чем разница между .pyo и .pyc ?
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[14:09:47] creitve: если бы зашифрована была важная информация, я бы сделал нормальную защиту, но тут просто дб read-only причем, данные не конфиденциальны, так что шифрованное значение в xml меня устраивает
[14:10:03] creitve: спасибо за советы
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[14:14:59] gigimon: во, для BS есть BSXPath
[14:15:05] gigimon: чтобы юзать XPath
[14:15:30] bobry: а чего не lxml.html?
[14:15:44] gigimon: lxml на винду нету бинарников
[14:15:53] gigimon: а ставить цигвин и т.п. влом
[14:15:57] bobry: эм, не может быть
[14:16:03] gigimon: ну я бинарники не нашел
[14:16:08] gigimon: оно там чет скомпилить хочет
[14:16:12] xa4a: etree?
[14:16:25] gigimon: дефолтное?
[14:16:29] gigimon: xml.etree?
[14:16:39] gigimon: там же ElementPath
[14:16:52] gigimon: и в 2.6 питоне очень древняя версия его
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[14:17:26] bobry: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/lxml/2.2.6
[14:17:32] bobry: тут есть айицо под виндовз
[14:17:49] gigimon: bobry: о блин, действителньо
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[14:17:53] gigimon: чет я до сюда не дошел
[14:17:56] gigimon: ща попробую спс
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[14:18:03] bobry: lkz 2.2.7 действительно нету сборок
[14:18:06] bobry: *для
[14:18:27] gigimon: 2.2.6 нету под 2.6
[14:18:28] gigimon: =(
[14:18:39] gigimon: под 2.6 ваще ток для мака
[14:19:01] bobry: ну юзай 2.5
[14:19:03] bobry: в чем проблема та
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[14:20:09] gigimon: ну ща попробую постаивть
[14:20:20] bobry: учитесь http://python.su/forum/viewtopic.php?id=8279
[14:20:26] gigimon: как эти .egg ваще ставить?
[14:20:39] bobry: easy_install вестимо
[14:21:01] bobry: правда для него надо будет поставить setuptools
[14:21:02] gigimon: ух
[14:21:06] gigimon: да это стоит
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[14:23:30] novus42: pip кстати ещё есть. удобнее чем easy_install, хотя в некоторых случаях делает странные вещи, а-ля скачивает mpkg и пытается найти там setup.py чтобы скомпилировать из сырцов. зато можно просматривать и удалять пакеты.
[14:23:44] bobry: non3x st, он разве ворк под виндовз?
[14:23:55] bobry: ошибся хайлайтом, сори :)
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[14:24:32] novus42: я не знать что с питоном и утилитами под виндовс. :(
[14:24:39] gigimon: novus42: да и он стоит, знаем
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[14:24:47] gigimon: работает
[14:24:48] bobry: или это virtualenv не работает?
[14:24:52] bobry: кто то из этой парочки не ворк
[14:24:54] gigimon: виртуаленв
[14:25:17] gigimon: надо поднять вай-фай в линуксе и свалить уже туда
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[14:25:48] gigimon: bobry: ну в обещм всеравно оно хочет компилить)
[14:26:11] bobry: да как так? там еще .exe есть
[14:26:14] bobry: для виндовза тоже
[14:26:25] gigimon: а exe хочет питон 2.5 установелный
[14:26:27] gigimon: стоит 2.6
[14:26:34] gigimon: надо как-то в реестре указать
[14:26:38] gigimon: что стоит и 2.5
[14:26:54] bobry: блин, как все сложно то
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[14:27:03] bobry: мигрируй на *nix
[14:27:04] gigimon: угу
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[14:28:01] gigimon: bobry: 2.2.4 от 2.2.6 сильно отличается? незнаешь?
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[14:28:28] gigimon: о
[14:28:29] gigimon: нашел
[14:28:39] gigimon: 2.2.7
[14:29:08] bobry: не, не знаю
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[14:31:39] gigimon: 2.2.7 поставил хехе
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[14:33:12] bobry: congrats
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[14:38:43] creitve: парни, у меня тупой вопрос: если x.hexdigest() возвращает значение в консоль, то как занести в переменное. пишет unsubscriptable
[14:39:06] bobry: creitve, еще разок? покажи трейс
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[14:39:25] creitve: а, секунду
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[14:40:11] creitve: всё работает, я просто пытался по незнанию слайс строки применить сразу к атрибуту объекта)
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[14:47:30] gigimon: как думаете, стоит строить дерево html5lib для lxml?
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[14:47:56] gigimon: если сам lxml мой Html съедает нормально
[14:48:00] gigimon: и вроде быстрее даже парсит
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[14:49:49] xa4a: gigimon: а чего с вайфаем? втыкнул дрова, а всё остальное wicd сам сделает
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[14:52:14] gigimon: xa4a: да вот дрова влом сувать :)
[14:52:22] gigimon: точнее сетевые интерфейсы висят, вкл/выкл пашет
[14:52:26] gigimon: но сеть не видит
[14:52:32] gigimon: точку*
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[15:10:48] nmk: _lorien: вот тебе короткий анекдот
- Давай сегодня без презерватива?
- Почему?
- Жарко
[15:10:53] nmk: баян, да.
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[15:33:58] Sevenov: nmk, не то что баян, это, скорее, уже не актуально.
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[15:53:25] mr.oduvan: Всем привет
[15:53:42] creitve: ку
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[15:55:54] mr.oduvan: кто ниюуть знает, как мне с объектом связать 2 threadedcomments ?
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[16:04:37] bobry: mr.oduvan, два треда или что?
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[16:05:00] mr.oduvan: типа да
[16:05:07] mr.oduvan: независимых
[16:05:24] mr.oduvan: для одних польщователей надо один показывать, а для другиз другой
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[16:07:02] mr.oduvan: я тут просто за шаг от форка :)
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[16:20:09] bobry: хмхм
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[16:20:27] bobry: может проще заюзать treebeard? :)
[16:20:33] bobry: и наваять свои комменты?
[16:20:42] bobry: через contrib.comments
[16:20:45] mr.oduvan: "treebeard"
[16:21:00] bobry: м?
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[16:22:16] nmk: bobry: а смысл contrib.comments то брать? там комментов больше, чем кода
[16:22:31] bobry: да нет особого смысла
[16:22:39] bobry: threadedcomments по моему их юзают
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[16:31:56] mr.oduvan: "treebeard" - судя по всему охиренная штука
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[16:34:10] bobry: еще какая :)
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[16:42:21] slav0nic: гы какраз тока вчера начал баловаться с treebeard + comments
[16:42:43] slav0nic: nmk, а смысл не брать contrib.comments?
[16:42:49] slav0nic: если уже как бы есть...
[16:43:03] mr.oduvan: slav0nic, и как ощущения?
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[16:43:14] bobry: у меня даже готовые есть где то :)
[16:43:25] mr.oduvan: о... давай
[16:43:33] slav0nic: )от чего именно? либа как либа, я пока не углублялся, подумываю на досуге, тк норм аппа для каментов нужна
[16:43:44] nmk: slav0nic: ну у мнея всегда какие-то требования доп появляются. наследовать модель его совсем не хочется
[16:43:46] slav0nic: есть на базе mptt
[16:43:57] slav0nic: nmk, дык поля добавить не сложно же
[16:43:58] mr.oduvan: ( не подумайте, что я совсем лентяй )
[16:44:04] slav0nic: не знаю, там базовый набор оплей кагбы
[16:44:05] bobry: они по моему больше не поддерживаются *mptt?
[16:44:10] slav0nic: ну типа
[16:44:26] slav0nic: в джанге ваще нет номральных либ практически В) живых
[16:44:40] slav0nic: тонны говен
[16:44:45] nmk: slav0nic: манкипатчить? ну его. кроме модерации там ничего хорошего нету.
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[16:44:48] bobry: mr.oduvan, да они в отдельную аппу не выпилены — ничего полезного
[16:44:56] slav0nic: nmk, эм? наследование скорей
[16:45:10] slav0nic: bobry, пох, кидай)
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[16:45:29] nmk: да я ж говорю, что не хочу наследовать. кроме лишних таблиц мне ничего это не принесет. Comment же не абстрактная
[16:45:41] _lorien: кстати, если разобраться, то для комментов и не нужны эти mptt и т.д. тупо parent в большинстве случаев хватате :)
[16:45:43] _lorien: т.к. выводятся они обычно все сразу
[16:45:50] slav0nic: с самим трибиром я не разбирался всерьёз, но множественное наследование от Node и Comment вроде даёт результат)
[16:45:54] Tony: [08:45:59 PM] slav0nic: тонны говен # от django-filemanager я выпал в осадок.
[16:46:02] slav0nic: )
[16:46:15] bobry: django-filemanager тот еще лол, со своей grapelli зависимостью
[16:46:21] _lorien: http://bitbucket.org/lorien/django-green-comments вот можете ещё моё поделие посмотреть :)
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[16:46:28] slav0nic: =)смарели
[16:46:31] slav0nic: минималистично)
[16:46:42] _lorien: ну хуле, контрибутте :)
[16:46:52] slav0nic: ))
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[16:47:03] _lorien: вот джанговские камменты это пипец, я их так и не осознал, они меня пугают
[16:47:15] slav0nic: ну местами да, странноваты)
[16:47:28] slav0nic: джангу тоже педики пишут
[16:47:30] slav0nic: местами В)
[16:47:32] bobry: чета стыдно мне мой код выкладывать — фик с ним :) готов апу поковырять если шо
[16:47:41] slav0nic: bobry, в првиат кинь)
[16:47:50] bobry: я вообще удивляюсь как contrib.comments столько держатся
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[16:48:09] bobry: slav0nic, та не — там много, шаблоны всякие. никакой магии, даже теги я шота поленился написать
[16:48:12] slav0nic: лучшеб ещё чего-то добавили в контриб
[16:48:14] bobry: давно написано было
[16:48:24] bobry: кстати, какого gis в контрибе?
[16:48:30] bobry: специфичный функционал то очень
[16:48:51] _lorien: ох, как я вчера е.... его настраивая :)
[16:49:01] bobry: пригодился?
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[16:49:13] _lorien: потом плюнул, и поставил postgres-8.3 и старые либы и завелось т.к. уменя написанная инструкция для тех версий
[16:49:16] slav0nic: bobry, пусть будет) вроде пилят же
[16:49:24] _lorien: bobry, ну да, в паре проектов юзал его
[16:49:27] slav0nic: я 1 раз побаловался
[16:49:33] _lorien: ну например тут tripster.ru
[16:49:37] slav0nic: ощущения неоднозначные))
[16:49:42] bobry: _lorien, насчет ссылки parent — сколько запросов надо чтобы вытащить все дерево?
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[16:49:48] _lorien: bobry, 1!!!
[16:49:53] Tony: gis в 1.1.1 емнип влили в contrib
[16:49:57] Tony: раньше отдельный проект был
[16:50:00] bobry: нефига не один
[16:50:04] _lorien: Comment.objects.filter(object=some_post_from_the_blog)
[16:50:09] bobry: лол
[16:50:18] mr.oduvan: если с парентом хранить ссылку на того, к кому они относятся
[16:50:20] Tony: object
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[16:50:28] bobry: ну тогда да
[16:50:29] _lorien: конечно, да
[16:50:36] _lorien: а какой смысл *не* хранить? :)
[16:50:42] bobry: не знаю
[16:50:44] mr.oduvan: я просто пояснил
[16:50:54] _lorien: ну да, ну короче вот моё видение комментов :)
[16:51:07] bobry: в любом случае, по мне так лучше было бы заюзать treebeard
[16:51:16] mr.oduvan: а выводить их
[16:51:25] bobry: ибо всегда есть выбор — что там буит в базе
[16:51:26] mr.oduvan: Лориен
[16:51:35] bobry: что выводить?
[16:51:50] mr.oduvan: вот я вывожу их листингом и в зависимости от уровня делаю отступ
[16:51:51] slav0nic: дерево
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[16:52:01] mr.oduvan: в случае парента - так не получится наврено
[16:52:30] _lorien: mr.oduvan, http://bitbucket.org/lorien/django-green-comments/src/tip/green_comments/templatetags/green_comments_tags.py#cl-12 так вывожу
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[16:53:22] _lorien: т.е. создаю список где комменты идут в той последовательности, как их выводить если смотреть дерево сверху вниз, ну а потом в зависимости от уровня нужное смещение делаю
[16:53:53] _lorien: ой, я там ещё какие-то -1 добавляю, ну короче... эээ, чё-то там происходит этакое :D
[16:54:06] _lorien: -1, это когда закрыть тэг наверное надо :)
[16:54:13] mr.oduvan: :)
[16:54:22] bobry: хм, что то я не врубаюсь зачем нужны дополнительные манипуляции то? если related_name=children повесить, то все и так должно работать
[16:54:34] _lorien: http://bitbucket.org/lorien/django-green-comments/src/tip/green_comments/templates/green_comments/comment_tree.html вот шаблон
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[16:54:57] mr.oduvan: а тут
[16:54:59] mr.oduvan: http://code.tabo.pe/django-treebeard/src/tip/treebeard/mp_tree.py
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[16:55:39] mr.oduvan: можно просто сортировать по path и делать отступ по depth
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[16:56:01] bobry: можно, ахах
[16:56:17] mr.oduvan: но эт я так поверхносно пока просматриваю
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[17:02:44] mr.oduvan: о
[17:02:45] mr.oduvan: http://code.tabo.pe/django-taggable
[17:02:50] mr.oduvan: отттогоже автора
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[17:03:21] Sevenov: отттогоже.
[17:03:23] Sevenov: хм
[17:04:23] _lorien: положил ложку мёда на тарелку, за день пчёлы вытаскали весь, что может быть абсурднее - пчёлы жрут мёд, который сами же сделали
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[17:06:55] mr.oduvan: главное то, что они из еды себе дом строят - никому абсурдным не показалось
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[17:23:17] creitve: кстати, а здесь на хабр ни у кого инвайта нет?
[17:24:04] slav0nic: там нечего делать
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[17:24:33] creitve: ну я слышал что он уже не торт, но просто было бы приятно войти в это сообщество
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[17:24:57] creitve: много воды в последнее время, зато больше научпопа
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[17:25:19] slav0nic: _lorien, djangodash тыкал в этом году?
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[17:26:07] _lorien: slav0nic, нет, я забыл про него совсем, когда прочитал, что он скоро, уже было поздно регаться
[17:26:23] slav0nic: я сам только увидел что он был)
[17:26:30] creitve: _lorien ты не поверишь, пчелы делают мёд для себя, чтобы есть. а человек у них забирает ровно столько, чтоб они зимой не умерли с голодухи0
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[17:35:02] _lorien: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LJTxbnxvaI&feature=related прикольный видеоряд сделали :D
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[19:39:16] gigimon: а XPath няшка
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[19:40:00] gigimon: а такое можно сократить? tree2.xpath("//td/a[contains(text(),'2x4winvps')]/../..")
[19:40:05] gigimon: чтобы лважды не писать ..
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[19:41:51] bobry: / кстати не рекомендуется использовать
[19:41:56] bobry: из соображений производительности
[19:41:58] bobry: `//
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[19:44:58] gigimon: ну, в моей огромной таблице сразу нашло
[19:45:08] gigimon: bobry: юзать абсолютные?
[19:45:17] bobry: uhuh
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[19:46:00] gigimon: а как там в питоне время исполнения команды узнать?
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[19:52:42] _lorien: bobry, чего не рекомендуется использовать не оч понял
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[19:53:24] bobry: _lorien, абсолютные пути
[19:53:32] bobry: в xpath выражениях
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[19:53:42] bobry: тьфу, наоборот
[19:53:56] _lorien: ты имеешь в виду, что // бякушка?
[19:54:39] gigimon: да
[19:54:42] bobry: йеп
[19:54:55] gigimon: ну, поидее да, т.к. так он меньше перебирает
[19:55:00] bobry: ему же надо в худшем случае все дерево оббежать
[19:55:09] _lorien: bobry, ну просто если до элемента 10 уровней вложенности, то xpath будет большииим и съест мой мозг - я выбираю тормоза :)
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[19:55:29] bobry: _lorien, конечно, пока это не критично
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[20:15:18] creitve: Народ, вот у меня была такая же проблема
[20:15:23] creitve: http://python.su/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4477
[20:15:25] creitve: точнее есть.
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[20:16:16] creitve: я правильно понял, что во время операций с xml нет способов "по-умному" работая с файлом добавлять информацию в нужное место xml файла, не перезаписывая его полностью?
[20:16:58] creitve: и библиотек для этого не написали?
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[20:19:57] bobry: я чего то не вижу use-case'a? зачем такая фишка?
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[20:20:37] gigimon: bobry: xml как бд юзать хотят наверно
[20:20:49] bobry: ну да, вопрос зачем
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[20:22:41] bobry: вроде как у rythmbox бд в xml
[20:22:47] bobry: ничего хорошего из этого не получается
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[20:25:00] gigimon: ага
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[20:26:26] creitve: так а если изменения вносятся раз в несколько недель
[20:26:37] creitve: а может вообще однократно
[20:26:43] creitve: что лучше использовать тогда?
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[20:27:24] creitve: sqlite?
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[20:29:02] gigimon: хотя бы
[20:29:18] creitve: а вы правы
[20:29:48] creitve: спасибо
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[20:36:44] cutwater: deepwalker: хай
[20:36:56] cutwater: как там успехи на фронте сварги?
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[20:39:56] deepwalker: description-ы сегодня уже есть
[20:40:04] deepwalker: сейчас допилим еще чуток и готово
[20:40:06] cutwater: кул
[20:40:17] cutwater: у меня все руки до нее недоходят
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[20:40:29] deepwalker: от моей первой версии осталось вообще всего ничего :-D
[20:40:36] deepwalker: втроем ее так закурочили
[20:41:32] deepwalker: блин, issubclass ругается - типа можно в него только класс пихать
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[20:42:07] deepwalker: а я теперь не соображу - как определить класс это или не класс
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[20:43:40] deepwalker: isinstance(a, type) ...
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[20:47:40] deepwalker: так, готово вроде
[20:47:59] deepwalker: cutwater, i18n еще скоро впилю
[20:48:08] deepwalker: еще бы кто добравлся до flatland
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[20:48:23] deepwalker: мне пока ни к чему
[20:48:35] deepwalker: но потом будут нужны конечно : )
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[20:57:41] cutwater: deepwalker: может завтра доберусь
[20:57:48] cutwater: я щас разбитый и хочу спать
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[20:58:32] gigimon: deepwalker: а что дескрипшины и flatland? :)
[20:58:35] cutwater: на работе поставил линукс, смогу параллельно смотреть
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[20:58:50] gigimon: что за*
[20:58:54] deepwalker: gigimon, мы в сварге сделали класс Description
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[20:59:02] deepwalker: для описания объектов
[20:59:04] Sevenov: deepwalker, когда запушишь?
[20:59:06] deepwalker: в частности моделей
[20:59:09] gigimon: клева
[20:59:13] deepwalker: пиранья пушит
[20:59:13] gigimon: в доку напишите :)
[20:59:17] gigimon: надо будет посмотреть
[20:59:18] Sevenov: /me хочет глянуть, ибо тоже понадобилось.
[20:59:25] gigimon: deepwalker: а flatland?
[20:59:27] deepwalker: http://paste.in.ua/1074/
[20:59:35] deepwalker: flatland перспективен в части форм
[20:59:39] deepwalker: и не только
[20:59:41] Sevenov: deepwalker, ну ты же в свой форк пушишь, а потом пулл-реквест. Не?
[20:59:48] deepwalker: да нет
[20:59:50] deepwalker: я не делал
[20:59:54] deepwalker: свой реп
[20:59:56] Sevenov: А
[21:00:14] deepwalker: я патчбомбой потом просто отправляю, да и все
[21:00:20] gigimon: deepwalker: а flatland эт че?
[21:00:26] deepwalker: ну почитай : )
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[21:00:33] gigimon: в сварге уже?
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[21:00:40] deepwalker: это типа валидирующиеся структуры данных
[21:00:42] deepwalker: нет
[21:00:50] gigimon: знал бы по какому запросу читать))
[21:00:54] gigimon: ух ты блин...
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[21:00:57] deepwalker: в планах, если никто не решит, что они гогно
[21:01:01] gigimon: )
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[21:01:18] deepwalker: ну то есть там вообще гибче гораздо любых xFroms
[21:01:23] deepwalker: WTF или Django
[21:01:25] gigimon: прикольно
[21:01:33] gigimon: ну если реализуете, посмотрим)
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[21:01:39] deepwalker: то есть поле может быть словарем или спискком
[21:01:57] deepwalker: да это не наша же придумка - можно спокойно пробовать : )
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[21:02:10] deepwalker: и презенташку надо тут пиранья кидал
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[21:02:55] gigimon: хы
[21:02:57] gigimon: кинь ссылку
[21:02:59] gigimon: посмотрю
[21:03:03] gigimon: для общего развития
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[21:04:53] Sevenov: !g pyton flatland
[21:04:57] Sevenov: !g python flatland
[21:05:03] Sevenov: вот, gigimon
[21:05:07] gigimon: ок
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[21:05:36] xa4a: хм. есть интересующиеся remote full time serverside python programmer for gaming company? по ходу для кого-то north american
[21:05:57] _lorien: а сколько бабла?
[21:06:41] xa4a: It is a remote job working from your home or a local office yet even if it is paid like a freelance/contractor job it is as serious as any full time jobs. Which means you do need to be available on time and if possible work North American hours.
[21:06:55] xa4a: как всегда
[21:06:57] xa4a: кто ж скажет
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[21:07:35] deepwalker: а что там вообще? где это все? : )
[21:07:39] _lorien: да ну и йух с ними, неудобно со штатами работать, у них там таймзон дико смещён (
[21:07:54] xa4a: deepwalker: это в линкедине
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[21:08:09] xa4a: и это всё что тут вообще)
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[21:14:14] xa4a: в общем, снова, если кто-то чувствует в себе силы и желание - в приват пишите
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[21:15:28] avida: ПРивет, как можно настроить джанго на сервере, не используя WSGIScriptAlias?
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[21:16:01] xa4a: django runserver
[21:16:07] xa4a: эм. под апачем?
[21:16:13] avida: да, под апачем
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[21:17:43] xa4a: под mod_wsgi - вряд ли как-то.
[21:17:50] xa4a: можно под мёртвым mod_python
[21:17:54] xa4a: или какой-то fcgi
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[21:18:16] deepwalker: а как вообще с забугром работают? Я слышал что в россиянии проблемы бывают с получением денег
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[21:19:16] bobry: deepwalker, в смысле? фриланс?
[21:19:25] xa4a: будут десантировать тебе по указанному адресу бандероли с едой
[21:20:03] bobry: ну как вариант
[21:20:06] deepwalker: bobry, ну вот как xa4a сейчс закинул
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[21:21:02] bobry: не наю, у меня через payoneer все денежки идут
[21:21:12] bobry: вариантов то не много на самом деле :)
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[21:22:02] bobry: xa4a, а за линком в приват?
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[21:23:54] xa4a: bobry: да, линк обратный, собсно
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[21:24:26] bobry: что то я ничего не понимаю уже
[21:24:29] bobry: о чем речь %)
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[21:25:58] Sevenov: >[10:14:52 PM] deepwalker: а как вообще с забугром работают? Я слышал что в россиянии проблемы бывают с получением денег
Можно через одеск договориться. Но можно договориться, чтобы просто на карту перечисляли денег.
[21:26:29] Sevenov: У меня виза классик, когда работал без одеска, они просто перечисляли мне так.
[21:26:35] creitve: как называется пакет sqlite последний стабильный для python 2.6 в репозитории ubuntu?
[21:26:56] xa4a: creitve: встроен же?
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[21:27:11] creitve: хм
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[21:27:53] bobry: creitve, http://docs.python.org/library/sqlite3
[21:28:06] creitve: спасибо!
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[21:28:57] Sevenov: Щас насру, готовьтесь.
[21:29:08] Sevenov: >в репозитории ubuntu?
svn@fs:~$ aptitude search sqlite | grep python
p python-pysqlite1.1 - python interface to SQLite 3
p python-pysqlite1.1-dbg - python interface to SQLite 3 (debug extens
p python-pysqlite2 - Python interface to SQLite 3
p python-pysqlite2-dbg - Python interface to SQLite 3 (debug extens
p python-pysqlite2-doc - Documentation for python-pysqlite2
p python-sqlite - python interface to SQLite 2
p python-sqlite-dbg - python interface to SQLite 2 (debug extens
p python-sqlitecachec - A fast metadata parser for YUM
v python2.5-pysqlite1.1 -
v python2.5-sqlite -
v python2.5-sqlitecachec -
v python2.6-pysqlite1.1 -
v python2.6-pysqlite2 -
v python2.6-sqlite -
v python2.6-sqlitecachec -
[21:29:26] bobry: и нафига им столько
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[21:30:35] creitve: о спасибо!
[21:31:21] creitve: действительно строен
[21:31:23] creitve: *в
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[21:36:42] deepwalker: а налоги не надо платить из поступлений?
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[21:37:04] Sevenov: Надо, процент у банков разный.
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[21:37:26] bobry: deepwalker, надо, если ты их декларируешь
[21:37:56] deepwalker: но обычно не декларируют?
[21:38:10] xa4a: Sevenov: процент у банков != налоги
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[21:38:13] creitve: а регистрация ип для фрилансера и уплата налога - нормальное явление, или это только впоследнее время налоговая за фриланс взялась?
[21:38:25] btolfa: налоговая обычно начинает интересоваться после прохождения через счёт определённой суммы
[21:38:29] Sevenov: xa4a, а, да.
[21:38:29] btolfa: милиончик там другой
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[21:38:46] bobry: btolfa, это если счет в россии, я так понимаю
[21:38:58] btolfa: да
[21:39:21] creitve: ну если родственники за границей есть то легче, можно и самому в принципе. оформляется как подарок
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[21:39:57] xa4a: а с подарков не надо налоги платить? Оо
[21:40:00] creitve: нет
[21:40:06] xa4a: а если дом подарят?
[21:40:08] creitve: насколько я изучал этот вопрос
[21:40:14] xa4a: гхм
[21:40:21] creitve: секунду, приведу источник
[21:40:50] xa4a: http://www.prostobank.ua/finansovyy_gid/nalogi/stati/nalogi_na_darenie
[21:40:51] xa4a: (ua)
[21:41:23] avida: Когда выполняется строка import django.core.handlers.wsgi, происходить Internal server error. Что это может быть?
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[21:41:38] bobry: все что угодно — читай трейс
[21:41:43] xa4a: Так, согласно действующему законодательству (1) в обязательном порядке нотариальному заверению подлежат договора дарения:
б) валютных ценностей на сумму свыше 850 гривен. ($100)
[21:41:48] avida: bobry: Недоступен (
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[21:42:04] xa4a: avida: читай error_log
[21:42:10] bobry: >$100 это круто
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[21:42:26] avida: xa4a: я понял, недоступен (
[21:42:47] creitve: вот нашёл
[21:42:48] avida: это не у меня, а на удаленном сервере
[21:43:06] creitve: аа, ссори, канал то украинский
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[21:43:34] creitve: чёрт, заблокировали юзера и публикацию
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[21:43:52] xa4a: creitve: давай, для общего развития пригодиться
[21:44:07] creitve: на хабре автор в бане и статья тоже
[21:44:21] creitve: ссылка какбе вот http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/freelance/87389/ но толку ноль(
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[21:46:07] creitve: меня больше интересует, если я решил заниматься этим в россии легально, нужно ли регистрировать ИП
[21:46:38] bobry: creitve, однозначно
[21:46:58] creitve: а процент сколько? 6% или 13%, или сколько еще, я не помню
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[21:52:34] creitve: всё, выгуглил
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[22:02:02] avida: новый джанго подерживает мод_пайтон?
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[22:03:32] xa4a: ты этого, скорее всего не хочешь
[22:03:37] xa4a: мод_питон мёртв
[22:03:39] xa4a: официально
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[22:04:09] avida: плохо
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[22:05:00] avida: не находит модуль django.middleware.csrf
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[22:07:05] bobry: avida, версия может старая?
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[22:07:31] avida: bobry: нет, вроде, на сервере 1.0.2
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[22:09:05] bobry: да, должна бы быть
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[22:15:09] avida: заработало, я свой джанго скопировал, и добавил его в sys.path
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[22:23:54] btolfa: как можно не запуская полноценного браузера проинтерпретировать js
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[22:24:43] огыешсук: много как
[22:25:04] xa4a: btolfa: запустить полноценный интерпретатор ja
[22:25:14] btolfa: ?
[22:25:21] огыешсук: но если тебе надо не просто js, а с веб-страничек -- то фигу, только броузером, чтобы полноценная dom была
[22:25:21] btolfa: можно пример?
[22:25:30] xa4a: !g spidermonkey
[22:25:35] btolfa: спасибо
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[22:29:28] xa4a: о, твитер сломался
[22:30:34] creitve: да нет
[22:30:44] creitve: хотя за 6 минут видимо починили
[22:30:53] btolfa: медленно
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[22:33:41] Домовичок is now Обижен на весь мир Ненавижу дождь = (
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[22:34:06] Домовичок: народ, кто в геометрии шарит?)
[22:34:17] gigimon: хы
[22:34:22] xa4a: топик!
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[22:34:34] btolfa: вопрос в студию
[22:35:54] avida: я шарю
[22:36:12] avida: только не в эвклидовой
[22:36:14] xa4a: Домовичок: так каникулы ж
[22:36:27] xa4a: или д.з. на лето?
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[22:37:21] Домовичок: xa4a: мне для игры
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[22:37:38] Домовичок: xa4a: нужно узнать пренадлежит ли точка А моего кругу
[22:37:43] bobry: Домовичок, а
[22:37:51] bobry: тьфу ты, не до конца напечатал
[22:37:55] btolfa: плоскость?
[22:38:05] btolfa: или 3х мерка?
[22:38:13] Домовичок: плоскостьэ
[22:38:15] bobry: "кругуЭ
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[22:38:19] bobry: какая трехмерка то
[22:38:23] xa4a: Домовичок: дык э. расстояние от центра до точки < радиса
[22:38:24] avida: Домовичок: рассчитываешь расстояние от центра до точки, если меньше радиуса - принадлежит
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[22:38:48] Домовичок: avida: ты гений )))
[22:38:54] Домовичок: avida: *DRINK*
[22:39:06] bobry: мой бог
[22:39:09] avida: Домовичок: это не я , это хача
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[22:39:16] xa4a: Домовичок: лучше не пиши игр
[22:39:28] Домовичок: xa4a: че?
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[22:40:17] bobry: Домовичок, найди себе книжку по аналитической геометрии и упражняйся — пригодится :)
[22:40:18] xa4a: а, не обращай внимания
[22:40:33] Домовичок: bobry: спс) но такое у меня редко бывает)
[22:40:35] xa4a: bobry: не поможет :)
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[22:40:46] bobry: Домовичок, оно и заметно
[22:40:49] Домовичок: xa4a: 8-)
[22:41:12] xa4a: не, ну серьёзно. если ты с этим не знаком, то такую книжку самостоятельно вряд ли осилишь
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[22:42:02] Домовичок: xa4a: bobry да мне оно как то и не нада, а будет нада, почитаю)
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[22:42:21] Домовичок: учусь по ходу дела) и возникновениии проблем) что бы всякой чушью голову зря не забивать)
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[22:42:48] avida: если закрыть в комнате без окон и интернета - тогда можно
[22:42:51] bobry: все понятно, молодец :)
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[22:45:30] Домовичок: :-)
[22:45:37] Домовичок: пасиба, пошщел дальше делать = )
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[22:45:41] avida: всегда мечтал изучить основы гидродинамики, но сейчас нереально на что-то сконцентрировать внимание на длительное время
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[22:49:59] огыешсук: /me получил 5 на экзамене по механике жидких сред, сейчас уже почти ничего не помнит :o(
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[22:54:13] Sevenov: /me получил 5 по тарарскому языку в пятом классе.
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[23:21:56] avida: не могу базы данных синхронизировать. В мануале написано - подключение к mysql - только по ssl. в джанго можно это сделать?
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[23:28:18] bobry: avida, в каком мануале?
[23:28:40] avida: bobry: http://shell.tor.hu/doc/connectivity.txt
[23:28:43] avida: здесь
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[23:28:56] bobry: http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/settings/#options
[23:28:58] avida: Port 3307 is MySQL, with an SSL overlay.
[23:29:00] bobry: думаю туда можно что нить передать
[23:29:02] bobry: для ssl
[23:29:05] bobry: какой нить параметр
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[23:56:02] kwis: товарищи подскажите пожалуйста сколько джанга хранит сессию по умолчанию и можно ли её сделать вечной???
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