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[00:07:11] : xa4a_ установил(а) тему: Python.SU | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи на google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | За голосом - в приват к модераторам | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://➡.ws/pu | Третий тупой вопрос за сутки — на http://throwcatch.me
[00:07:50] zarg_: сделал сампл
[00:07:56] zarg_: пытаюсь открыть пастиин
[00:08:04] zarg_: а можно в другое место?
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[00:08:24] zarg_: http://dumpz.org/21802/
[00:08:37] zarg_: вот так я сделал на getattr
[00:08:49] zarg_: но мне это не нравится
[00:09:04] zarg_: я врапер делаю
[00:09:06] zarg_: к драйверу
[00:09:12] zarg_: драйвер не умеет реконектится
[00:09:39] zarg_: враапер научит его реконектится , он должен проверять состояние драйвера и реконектить его или отдавать ему вызов
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[00:16:09] Typhon: пока не ясно, все еще, что тебе надо ;) сделай метод info, где вызывай info оборачиваемого объекта.
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[00:16:21] Typhon: паттерн обертка или фасад, какой-нибудь, гг ^_^
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[00:18:08] Sevenov: >return lambda *a,**kw:getattr(self.conn,attr)(*a,**kw)
return getattr(self.conn,attr)
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[00:24:48] zarg_: Sevenov,
[00:25:22] zarg_: хм
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[00:25:46] zarg_: а ведь вариант
[00:26:06] zarg_: Sevenov, спасибо не сообразил
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[00:27:16] zarg_: там стас про тебя спрашивает
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[01:43:17] deepwalker: что то вы намутили то страшное
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[01:43:25] deepwalker: в twisted реконнект не так делается
[01:43:54] deepwalker: в чем логика то - 10 запросов, 10 коннектов?
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[03:12:00] огыешсук: утро доброе
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[04:12:19] _lorien: )
[04:12:32] _lorien: решил сегодня с утра поработать, у меня щас 8am
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[04:15:24] Sevenov: У меня 5 утра
[04:15:30] Sevenov: скоро спать пора
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[04:26:31] _lorien: я будильник на 4 завёл сегодня )
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[04:26:41] _lorien: если я с утра не работаю, то потом пипец - если в 11 встану вообще ничо не сделаю
[04:27:30] огыешсук: /me сова -- первые несколько часов после сна нифиганеработоспособен, вот вечером или ночью -- дело другое
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[04:38:57] _lorien: [lorien@hovel1 pyweb]$ sudo supervisorctl reread
pyweb: available
[lorien@hovel1 pyweb]$ sudo supervisorctl start pyweb
pyweb: ERROR (no such process)
объясните, чо за фигня?
[04:39:17] _lorien: я ночью хочу спать, если нужно делать работу, я чувствую себя быдлом, при условии, что я днём ничо не делал
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[04:42:52] _lorien: а, проехали, надо было -HUP делать
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[04:47:03] Sevenov: А не ДР ли сегодня у Пираньи?
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[04:56:24] OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'asdfasdf'
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[05:02:59] OSError: OSError: [Errrrrr Sevenov] Too many unsleeping sevenovs in the chat room
[05:04:00] Sevenov: OSError, ололо.
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[05:23:41] огыешсук: /me достали "Premature end of script headers: django.wsgi"
[05:23:53] огыешсук: /me подозревает, что это от перегрузки, но не уверен
[05:24:36] л: огыешсук, а что юзаешь для подключения к серверу?
[05:24:38] л: а )
[05:24:43] л: mod_wsgi вестимо
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[05:25:27] Sevenov: Лучше nginx (upstream) -> n*tornado.wsgi, где n - кол-во процессоров :3
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[05:26:30] огыешсук: /me к апачику привык
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[05:26:57] огыешсук: кстати, процессоров реальных или виртуальных? а то у меня на сервере i7
[05:27:35] огыешсук: в этой вашей торнаде virtualhost`ы есть?
[05:27:49] |: они есть в nginx
[05:28:50] огыешсук: /me пока настроил nginx в случае недоступности апачика (что случается как раз при этих самых prematur`ах) ребутать оный и слать мне письмо, судя по письмам, ряз пять в сутки апачик ребутается. Нагрузка же не так, чтобы велика -- запрос-другой в секунду. Не понимаю где затык.
[05:29:06] огыешсук: Бррр!
[05:29:12] огыешсук: s/nginx/nagios
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[05:31:32] огыешсук: вообще, "чуть чего -- ребутать процесс" хорошая стратегия, у меня ещё и память некоторые процессы жрали раньше почём зря, теперь они ребутаются кроном ежечасно и 7 гигов свободной памяти на серверочке держится
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[05:32:54] |: огыешсук, у меня та же хрень
[05:34:04] Sevenov: >теперь они ребутаются кроном
[05:34:18] Sevenov: чо-то вы непонятное мутите
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[05:38:21] |: Sevenov, расскажи как правильно
[05:38:43] Sevenov: >[06:23:00 AM] * огыешсук к апачику привык
[05:39:07] Sevenov: -опачик и ок
[05:39:55] |: ща уберу старые сайты, останется парочка, тоже буду от апачика избавляться
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[05:42:16] Sevenov: недавно товарищу помогал заменить опачик на нжинкс+всги-сервер, запарились.
[05:43:05] |: Я вот ещё думаю извратнуться с gunicorn или нет :)
[05:43:18] |: ну т.е. gunicorn + асинхронный mysql-драйвер
[05:44:26] Sevenov: а зачем?
[05:45:13] |: шобы меньше сервер грузился
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[05:46:12] |: я на днях ковырял gevent - многопоточная качалка - так вот всё работает ваще без нагрузки на проц, если б я стока тредов создал, то ваще пипец был бы
[05:46:17] |: ну там 500 :D
[05:46:21] |: или тыщу
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[05:47:32] Sevenov: >[06:41:42 AM] |: шобы меньше сервер грузился
iptables -P INPUT DROP
[05:47:46] |: я iptables не знаю
[05:47:56] Sevenov: ну я тебе показал как
[05:48:10] |: да я не понимаю, чо там написано
[05:48:32] огыешсук: Sevenov: у меня feedex.net основную нагрузку создаёт.
Там есть апачик и wsgi, они отдают людям контент, обычно по запросу в секунду получается (но некий PHPшный simplepie сука один и тот же запрос любит повторять для верности раз десять в течении нескольких секунд). Иногда апачик перестаёт отвечать а в логах я вижу только Premature end of script headers: django.wsgi. Как workaround я настроил nagios ребутать апач если тот не отвечает.
Ещё есть фоновые качалки контента, что базу сайта пополняют, они качают себе тихо-мирно гиг-другой контента в сутки, иногда их тоже клинит и поэтому настроен нестарт этих качалок если они подзависли. А чтобы они ещё и память не жрали, настроен принудительный ежечасный рестарт.
Меня это всё не то, чтобы очень устраивает, но жить можно. Больше всего расстраивает апачик с его Premature end of script headers: django.wsgi
[05:49:13] |: тут тока iptables помогут
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[05:51:16] огыешсук: то есть пока в сторону nginx+wsgi не смотреть?
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[05:52:48] огыешсук: раз там запариться можно
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[05:55:28] |: я бы посмотрел
[05:55:33] |: раз у тебя всё равно всё глючит )
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[05:58:18] огыешсук: я бы не назвал это "всё глючит", в текущей конструкции оно вполне прекрасно работает, обеспечивая по крайней мере 99.95% аптайма.
[05:58:41] |: ну просто когда у меня так глючит, на душе как-то неприятно
[05:59:06] |: когда ты всё и вся рестартишь каждый час и день - это имхо глючит :)
[05:59:30] |: вот у меня всё глючит :(
[05:59:53] огыешсук: Sevenov: под "помогал заменить опачик на нжинкс+всги-сервер, запарились" имелась в виду именно торнада?
[06:00:12] огыешсук: Встроенный в nginx wsgi не проверяли?
[06:00:25] огыешсук: Вообще, торнада сейчас наилучший wsgi сервер, или кто?
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[06:01:00] Sevenov: огыешсук, там нет "встроенного wsgi". Есть gunicorn, например.
[06:01:02] |: так он тоже асинхронный ( причём если много сайтов, то я так понял, любой затык запроса для любого сайта стопорнёт ВАЩЕ всё
[06:01:12] |: я про nginx mod_wsgi
[06:01:17] Sevenov: |, это старое говно.
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[06:01:53] |: Sevenov, ну а я чо сказал? :)
[06:02:21] Sevenov: |, неправильно сказал, политкорерктно сказал. Сказать политкорректно - ничего не сказать :-)
[06:04:09] огыешсук: Sevenov: А по первому и третьему вопросу?
[06:04:42] |: вроде gunicorn самый крутой \m/
[06:04:47] Sevenov: огыешсук, по какому? Ты много написал, мне лень читать, я засыпаю.
[06:04:47] |: был какой-то мегабенчмарк
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[06:05:19] огыешсук: Sevenov: вы запарились именно с торнадой? И почему именно торнада?
[06:05:23] |: http://nichol.as/benchmark-of-python-web-servers
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[06:05:47] Sevenov: огыешсук, запарились кучу сайтов переносить.
[06:06:27] огыешсук: /me . o 0 (какое засыпаешь? По MSK сейчас 7 утра, если не ошибаюсь. Самое жаворонковое время!)
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[06:06:34] огыешсук: Sevenov: а почему именно торнада?
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[06:07:05] Sevenov: огыешсук, просто торнадо из пейтоновых серверов самое, блин, рабочее и проверенное.
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[06:21:55] огыешсук: вон выше ссылка была, так там торнада ещё и тормознее modwsgi оказалась
[06:22:22] огыешсук: ещё там пишут, что кривой апп может всё напрочь заблочить в торнаде
[06:22:31] огыешсук: в отличии от
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[06:28:29] |: ну да, она же асинхронная :)
[06:29:52] Sevenov: Какая, нафиг, в wsgi асинхронность?
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[06:30:52] огыешсук: "Concerning Tornado and performance, I do not think Tornado is an alternative for CherryPy or even ModWSGI. Not only does it hardly show any increases in performance but it also requires you to rethink your code"
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[06:31:55] |: ну как какая, торнадо получает запросы и пытается выполнить их с помощью обраотчиков (django-вьюшек) это всё делается в асинхронной модели, если одна вьюшка начнёт тупить, то до других вьюшек дело не дойдёт
[06:32:19] |: а тупить она начнёт на тяжёлом запросе к бд
[06:33:44] огыешсук: эээ, может s/асинхронной/синхронной ?
[06:35:17] |: не, ну торнада позволяет насколько я знаю писать асинхронные "вьюшки", для этого там надо какие-то колбэки из вьюшек вызывать, я не знаю, ну короче есс-но в обычно джанго-приложении ничего такого не вызывается и оно не может прерваться в момент запроса к бд (чтобы другие вьюшки выполнялись), ждёт ответа от бд и стопорит работу других вьюшек
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[06:36:39] огыешсук: ужас какой
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[06:36:53] огыешсук: /me смотрит на uwsgi, однако удивляется чего его нет в debian
[06:37:34] |: http://www.tornadoweb.org/documentation#non-blocking-asynchronous-requests вот типа такого там надо делать :-/
[06:38:06] |: типа вьюшка запустила долгую операцию и вернула управлению торнаде, та может щас другие вьюшки запускать, а потом когда файл скачается запустит продолжение работы этой вьюшки...
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[06:42:03] Sevenov: |, а wsgi тут причём?
[06:42:32] Sevenov: |, хммм. Тебе стоит полистать слайды армина с пайкона'10.
[06:42:37] Sevenov: огыешсук, и тебе тоже
[06:44:40] |: Sevenov, откуда я знаю при чём тут wsgi, это ты спросил :)
[06:44:45] |: давай ссылку )
[06:45:22] Sevenov: !g armin ronacher
[06:45:31] Sevenov: !g armin ronacher wsgi on python 3
[06:45:39] |: да читал я )
[06:45:39] Sevenov: |, вот, вроде бы оно.
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[06:46:00] |: эту читал
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[06:47:14] |: огыешсук: ещё там пишут, что кривой апп может всё напрочь заблочить в торнаде
|: ну да, она же асинхронная :)
Sevenov: Какая, нафиг, в wsgi асинхронность?
семёнов, иди спать :)
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[06:48:14] Sevenov: Там как раз затрагиваются проблемы wsgi.
[06:48:39] Sevenov:
|: ну да, она же асинхронная :)
Sevenov: Какая, нафиг, в wsgi асинхронность?
[06:48:57] Sevenov: это был не вопрос, а призыв подумать.
[06:49:20] |: та он там про байты пиздит
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[06:53:57] |: давай пиши прям, без призывов
[06:54:03] |: * прямо
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[10:20:34] evrial is now dnd
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[10:27:37] deepwalker is now online
[10:28:13] vgavro is now online
[10:28:14] vgavro is now online
[10:28:59] erraen is now online
[10:30:19] XIT is now dnd
[10:30:34] evrial is now dnd
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[11:32:39] MAVr is now Да, я тут
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[11:45:36] evrial is now dnd
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[11:46:18] MAVr is now Да, я тут
[11:46:27] vgavro is now online
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[11:48:15] MAVr is now Да, я тут
[11:48:58] erraen is now online
[11:50:18] XIT is now dnd
[11:50:29] vgavro is now online
[11:50:30] vgavro is now online
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[11:50:36] evrial is now dnd
[11:50:41] cybergrind is now online
[11:51:28] vgavro is now online
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[11:53:59] erraen is now online
[11:54:01] Ляпатяпа is now online
[11:55:19] XIT is now dnd
[11:55:34] evrial is now online
[11:55:36] evrial is now dnd
[11:55:41] cybergrind is now online
[11:55:45] wiz is now away
[11:56:14] slav0nic: опять на bb какая-то магическая куита творится
[11:56:28] vgavro is now online
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[11:57:58] nmk: ты про то что они с амазона собрались уезжать?
[11:58:58] erraen is now online
[12:00:19] XIT is now dnd
[12:00:31] slav0nic: да но ща он ацки глючил говоря что создал для емня репозиторий)
[12:00:35] evrial is now dnd
[12:00:41] cybergrind is now online
[12:00:56] slav0nic: причём на всех репозиториях
[12:01:28] vgavro is now online
[12:01:29] nmk: ну я недавно у него заметил какую-то херню с кешем. т.е. создал реп, потом грохнул, а он везде был виден. перейти на него правда нельзя было
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[12:20:09] MAVr is now Да, я тут
[12:20:18] XIT is now dnd
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[12:20:36] evrial is now dnd
[12:20:40] cybergrind is now online
[12:21:28] vgavro is now online
[12:21:34] | is now online
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[12:25:18] XIT is now dnd
[12:25:34] evrial is now online
[12:25:35] evrial is now dnd
[12:25:40] cybergrind is now online
[12:26:28] vgavro is now online
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[12:29:26] evrial is now online
[12:29:27] evrial is now online
[12:29:30] xa4a: освобождающая ниша рынка, чо
[12:29:40] xa4a: *ся
[12:30:18] XIT is now dnd
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[12:31:28] vgavro is now online
[12:31:29] nmk: ты про bb?
[12:31:51] evrial is now offline
[12:32:20] xa4a: да
[12:32:31] novus42 is now online
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[12:32:39] XIT is now dnd
[12:33:00] nmk: имхо, если был бы рынок, то что-нибудь уже бы появилось..
[12:33:36] deepwalker: guthub же : )
[12:33:53] deepwalker: у него только один косяк - git
[12:33:58] slav0nic: )
[12:33:59] erraen is now online
[12:34:00] nmk: github сделал бы поддержку hg. было б круто
[12:34:01] deepwalker: а в остальном очень даже ничего
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[12:34:33] evrial is now online
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[12:36:11] gigimon is now Да, я здесь.
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[12:53:15] bilkis is now Тут
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[13:06:01] Ляпатяпа is now работаю
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[13:11:12] amigo_ is now KDE4 - гавно!
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[13:18:49] огыешсук: nmk: hghub.net свободен.
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[13:33:40] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[13:33:41] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
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[13:37:40] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[13:38:50] evrial is now dnd
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[13:42:39] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[13:43:48] xa4a is now online
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[13:45:39] cybergrind is now online
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[13:47:40] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[13:48:50] evrial is now online
[13:48:51] evrial is now dnd
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[13:52:40] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[13:53:49] nott is now online
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[13:56:09] nmk: """Мы уделяем большое внимание досугу команды и предпочитаем активный отдых. только за последние полгода команда 3 раза выбиралась на несколько дней на природу. У нас есть собственный флаг команды и походный комплект нетбуков."""
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[13:56:13] nmk: ох
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[13:57:40] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[13:58:48] evrial is now dnd
[13:58:49] evrial is now online
[13:58:50] |: ыыы
[13:58:59] erraen is now online
[13:59:10] |: загоняют в лес, отбирают компасы и пока майлстоун не сдаешь не выпустят :D
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[14:02:40] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[14:03:48] evrial is now online
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[14:31:58] wiz: чем можно на жабоскрипте ужать JSON-строку чтобы оно поменьше места занимало?
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[14:35:57] xa4a: png :)
[14:36:14] xa4a: !g 10k apart javascript png
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[14:45:44] sanchopanca: Доброго дня всем
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[14:48:45] wiz: мне в урле надо передавать кучу данных
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[14:48:57] wiz: а пост нельзя т.к. crossdomain
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[14:49:30] nmk: iframe?
[14:49:52] wiz: а подробней?
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[14:50:58] nmk: ну, делаешь форму и айфрейм, у формы прописываешь таргет айфрейм. данные уходят, страница не перезагружается. содержимое айфрейма не прочитаешь, если домен разный. но адрес страинцы прочитаешь. в хеше можно какое-нибудь состояние передать
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[14:55:24] wiz: это надо жабоскриптом сделать форму, тиснуть в неё элементов....
[14:55:33] wiz: а какая вообще макс длина у get запроса?
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[14:55:48] nmk: 2кб вроде
[14:55:50] wiz: у меня сейчас 450 знаков проскакивает только в путь
[14:55:52] wiz: а ну хватит
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[14:59:38] xa4a: jsonp
[14:59:55] |: jsonp, создаём скрыпт, в его пути можно чо-нить передать в параметрах, ну а сервер отвечает в виде func(....), где func имя..
[14:59:58] |: бля не дописал ))
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[15:00:25] Sevenov: xa4a, ну wiz о jsonp и писал.
[15:00:30] wiz: угу
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[15:00:50] Sevenov: wiz, как вариант, генерь короткий урл каким нибудь base36, например
[15:00:51] wiz: возвращать ничего не надо там
[15:01:05] |: физ вроде про iframe
[15:01:11] |: * wiz
[15:01:12] Sevenov: +1 запрос к хранилищу, но пох.
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[15:02:27] wiz: у меня сейчас <script src="http://myhost/foo?stuffffffffffffffffffffff...ffffff"></script>
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[15:02:50] wiz: в принципе можно и img, но из-за него может разметка поехать
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[15:05:15] sanchopanca: Добрый день. Перехожу с С++ на Python и в первый раз столкнулся с ошибкой выхода за границу списка. Сам ошибку, хоть ты убей, не вижу. Не могли бы вы посмотреть в чем дело?
http://pastebin.mozilla-russia.org/106833
Ошибка в 72 строчке
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[15:06:00] |: for j in range(len(A)): может len(a[i]) ?
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[15:06:18] wiz: а нахрена там вообще индексы?
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[15:06:33] wiz: а
[15:06:40] sanchopanca: |: И так и так ошибка получается, матрицы квадратные
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[15:07:11] wiz: btw, substrAct
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[15:08:11] |: answer = [sum(x) for x in zip(A, B)] как-то так наверное :)
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[15:09:03] sanchopanca: |:чтоб далеко не ходить, что такое zip?
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[15:09:42] slav0nic: In [1]: zip([1, 2, 3], [4, 5, 6])
Out[1]: [(1, 4), (2, 5), (3, 6)]

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[15:10:34] Typhon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convolution_(computer_science)
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[15:11:02] |: а чо мой код дошёл? ) у меня сеть лагает, я уже не уверен, чтоя правильный код выслал
[15:11:11] sanchopanca: Спасибо вам, сейчас все попробую
[15:11:15] wiz: вот так всегда - спросишь про синтаксис, а тебе моск функциональщиной вскрывают ((=
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[15:11:35] sanchopanca: И все же, почему ошибка выхода за границы массива?
[15:11:56] sanchopanca: IndexError: list index out of range
[15:12:26] Typhon: потому что индекс больше чем количество элементов %)
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[15:12:28] nott: стэктрэйс давай :)
[15:12:44] wiz: в ipython запусти свой скрипт и там debug сделай
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[15:21:31] wiz: а зачем ты вообще пытаешься numpy изобрести?
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[15:27:34] sanchopanca: Я только начал программировать - это моя вторая программа(первая делает входные файлы для этой). Для numpy рано еще
[15:27:57] sanchopanca: начал программировать на Python*
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[15:29:12] kwis: товарищи, есть поле в модели post_gallery = models.ForeignKey(Gallery, verbose_name=u'Галлерея', blank=True, null=True) я хочу что бы в админке была возможность вообще не указывать галерею, в данный момент выскакивает ошибка - post_post.post_gallery_id may not be NULL подскажите плиз что делать
[15:29:13] wiz: учиться пользоваться стандартными библиотеками в питоне это первое после синтаксиса
[15:29:57] wiz: kwis, manage.py reset yourapp
[15:30:11] sanchopanca: wiz, numpy не такая уж стандартная библотека
[15:30:28] wiz: sanchopanca, для этой задачи - стандартная
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[15:31:54] kwis: wiz, спасибо, ты оказался прав
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[15:33:35] sanchopanca: Кстати, у меня 3.1. Из-за этого может быть такая проблема?
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[15:37:52] wiz: sanchopanca, import pdb;pdb.set_trace() туда сунь и посмотри
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[15:41:32] sanchopanca: wiz, извини за кучу глупых вопросов. Что туда сунуть? Весь код?
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[15:43:06] sanchopanca: У меня нет модуля pdp
[15:43:11] sanchopanca: uuups
[15:43:20] sanchopanca: не так прочитал =)
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[15:44:15] mr.oduvan: <db>
[15:44:46] mr.oduvan: \/
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[16:04:11] gf: интересны субъективные ощущения тех, кто юзает питон 3к, когда он сравнивает его со второй веткой..?
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[16:07:12] wiz: кстати, а кто-нибудь делал virtualenv со свежесобраным py3k?
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[17:01:03] | is now online
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[17:02:15] |: чо это значит?
[17:02:23] vgavro: http://www.dabeaz.com/python/NewGIL.pdf
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[17:03:42] vgavro: в гил добавили блекджек, если кратко
[17:03:56] erraen is now online
[17:04:18] |: Нн стал меньше тормозить? :)
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[17:05:53] |: http://lorien.name/static/pub/f421a0424091d6c22d4cedd1e609a389.png лол Господин | Женщина, клёвый перевод :)
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[17:09:08] vgavro: хм и как у тебя хром под линуксом? у меня памяти жрет не меряно, а под виндой летает как назло.
[17:10:04] vgavro: больше двух-трех закладок открывать опасно
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[17:20:24] |: Божественно, быстро работает, про память хз, у меня два гига - хватает на всё про всё.
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[17:21:18] |: я хром на нетбуке юзал - единственное решение т.к. тормозилла тормозила, опера гавно, ну а больше и нет ничего :)
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[17:22:07] |: в хроме из коробки функция синхронизации закладок через гуглоаккаунт - мне очень понравилось )
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[17:29:02] gf: я хромиум юзаю, все хорошо, но вот странички бывает не загружаются..
[17:29:23] gf: причем это 100% проблема хромиума..
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[17:30:08] gf: да javascript на страничках, бывает, отказывается работать
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[17:30:29] gf: но это не больше 1% времени, поэтому терпимо..
[17:31:03] gf: ну а скорость приятна, по сравнению с firefox'om
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[17:39:14] jedgar: firefox тормозит вообще чистый, после установки? :-/
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[17:44:27] |: да, глюки хрома выкашивают, бывает тупо валится вкладка и всё, а если я открывал из неё ссылки, то дружно валится группа вкладок, на которых страницы этого сайта
[17:44:41] MAVr is now Да, я тут
[17:44:43] |: но я терплю, зато быстро :) а валится очень редко
[17:45:20] |: а когда я понял, что в хроме встроенный firebug, то на огнелиса я забил окончательно
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[17:45:48] |: единственное, не хватает расширения livehttpheaders, я не понял, как в хроме смотреть поток запросов-ответов
[17:46:12] |: там есть вкладка resources, но там нельзя посмотреть редиректы, например
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[17:46:31] |: ну вот для этого и гружу иногда firefox :)
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[17:49:46] |: http://www.gofuckbiz.com/showthread.php?t=17406 питон становится модным у вебмастеров :)
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[17:50:50] gf: jedgar нет, с файрбагом.. :)
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[17:51:19] novus42: только после php как то синтаксис кажется каким-то неочевидным < это ещё неизвестно где синтаксис более неочевидный
[17:51:24] gf: | в хроме байрбагЛайт..
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[17:54:15] dicos: а в хроме есть что-то для блокировки рекламы?
[17:55:20] |: evsignal_init: socketpair: No such file or directory - никто не знает, что это?
[17:55:28] cybergrind is now online
[17:55:37] |: у чувака на винде выскакивает - скрипт юзает gevent для скачивания документов
[17:55:48] |: а я с рекламой смотрю и как-то не замечаю её особо :)
[17:56:15] |: какие-то были клоны adblock, тока они тормозили у меня на нетбуке и я их выключил
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[17:56:31] dicos: а меня раздражает всякая анимация
[17:56:48] dicos: поэтому пользуюсь фаерфоксом с плагинами
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[18:20:41] jedgar: l: может firewall
[18:21:06] nmk: о. http://antirez.com/post/redis-weekly-update-7.html
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[19:21:30] k_s: есть ли pkg-config для винды ?
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[19:39:25] yauserrr111: есть ли функция (библиотека), с помощью которой можно перевести javascript'овский юникод в юникод питона?
[19:39:53] k_s: аэээ
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[19:40:59] mr.oduvan: а откуда предположение, что это два разных юникода?
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[19:42:31] yauserrr111: javascript: '%u043F%u0440%u0438%u0432%u0435%u0442!'
python: u'\u043f\u0440\u0438\u0432\u0435\u0442!'
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[19:43:27] Ляпатяпа: replace?
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[19:44:06] mr.oduvan: из жс
[19:44:08] mr.oduvan: line = '\u043f\u0440\u0438\u0432\u0435\u0442!'
[19:44:13] mr.oduvan: line
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[19:44:17] mr.oduvan: "привет!"
[19:44:28] ds.tihonov is now дома! :)
[19:44:29] k_s: replace(data, '\%u,' ,'\\u') вроде так
[19:44:31] yauserrr111: не получится: '\\u043F\\u0440\\u0438\\u0432\\u0435\\u0442!'
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[19:44:39] mr.oduvan: откуда у Вас нарисовался %?
[19:45:18] yauserrr111: javastript'овская функция escape так делает
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[19:46:41] mr.oduvan: тааааак
[19:48:26] mr.oduvan: а зачем нужна вам эта функция?
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[19:49:19] yauserrr111: ajax-чат делаю
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[19:49:38] k_s: а питон зачем ?)
[19:50:35] mr.oduvan: воу воу...
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[19:50:40] mr.oduvan: не сразу так гломально
[19:50:42] mr.oduvan: чуть ниже
[19:50:48] mr.oduvan: какая цель escape?
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[19:53:07] mr.oduvan: jquery.ajax
[19:53:08] yauserrr111: > какая цель escape?
пользователь пишет сообщение на русском, сообщение оборачивается в escape и посылается на сервер
[19:53:24] yauserrr111: > а питон зачем ?)
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[19:53:47] Darth Лис is now Ура! У меня не новый ### Infium, а совершенно другая программа, скачать можно с http://www.pidgin.im/
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[19:54:04] yauserrr111: сервер для чата на twisted'e делаю
[19:54:05] mr.oduvan: вобщем я понял
[19:54:08] gigimon: ну видимо серверная часть
[19:54:19] mr.oduvan: эт долго объяснять
[19:54:23] mr.oduvan: просто юзай
[19:54:28] mr.oduvan: jquery.ajax
[19:54:33] gigimon: угу
[19:54:37] mr.oduvan: не надо ничего "обворачивать"
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[19:56:43] yauserrr111: дык его и использую
[19:57:35] mr.oduvan: значит не правильно используешь
[19:58:28] yauserrr111: мне нужно использовать кроссдоменные запросы, в которых запросы передаются через заголовок http.
т.е. сообщение пользователя должно передаваться в заголовке http-пакета, а для этого его надо в юникод превратить
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[20:00:10] mr.oduvan: кросдоменные запросы через аякс?
[20:00:23] mr.oduvan: я тоже так хочу
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[20:00:53] yauserrr111: а в чем проблемы? латиница нормально работает
[20:01:17] mr.oduvan: а крос какие домены?
[20:01:20] Darth Лис: yauserrr111: может таки jsonp всё таки возьмёте?
[20:01:56] Darth Лис: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JSON#JSONP
[20:02:01] Darth Лис: вотакой например
[20:02:48] mr.oduvan: шото я совсем тут потерялся
[20:02:57] yauserrr111: я тоже
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[20:03:15] mr.oduvan: между какими доменнами вы делаете запрос6
[20:03:16] yauserrr111: передача данных у меня работает
у меня проблемы с кодировкой :)
[20:03:17] mr.oduvan: ?
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[20:03:50] mr.oduvan: почему паросто не делать пост запрос и в теле не передавать данные?
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[20:06:12] yauserrr111: > почему паросто не делать пост запрос и в теле не передавать данные?
кроссдоменного поста ведь нет, поэтому и не сделать так

[20:07:23] |: mr.oduvan, если страница загружена с A, то javascript скрипты не могут делать POST-запросы на страницы сайта B
[20:07:27] |: из соображений безоспаности
[20:07:42] mr.oduvan: ну по ходу он как-то делает
[20:07:49] |: кто?
[20:07:52] mr.oduvan: только не хочет делится секретом
[20:08:05] mr.oduvan: яюзеррр111
[20:08:08] |: ну общепринятая практика - JSONP
[20:08:16] yauserrr111: > между какими доменнами вы делаете запрос6
у меня сайт крутится работает на одном порту, а сервер на другом.
когда я пробовал делать post запросы, в мозилле они не работали, а в хроме работали. сделал jsonp заработали в обоих браузерах
[20:08:27] mr.oduvan: ))
[20:08:29] mr.oduvan: так и знал
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[20:08:36] yauserrr111: > только не хочет делится секретом
каким таким секретом?
[20:08:45] mr.oduvan: это не кросдомены
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[20:11:25] yauserrr111: jsonp - не кроссдоменный запрос?
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[20:13:40] yauserrr111: в общем следующий вопрос остается открытым :)
есть ли функция (библиотека), с помощью которой можно перевести javascript'овский юникод в юникод питона?
javascript: '%u043F%u0440%u0438%u0432%u0435%u0442!'
python: u'\u043f\u0440\u0438\u0432\u0435\u0442!'
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[20:14:19] mr.oduvan: нет
[20:14:21] mr.oduvan: :)
[20:14:42] mr.oduvan: А
[20:14:45] mr.oduvan: стоп
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[20:18:13] mr.oduvan: а ты для твистеда
[20:18:17] mr.oduvan: чем пользуешься?
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[20:19:36] yauserrr111: в смысле?
[20:19:48] btolfa: yauserrr111: функция unichr
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[20:24:32] yauserrr111: спасибо, я в курсе :)
по ходу самому парсить придется :)
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[20:35:14] Darth Лис: http://i.imgur.com/0359H.png
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[20:57:53] k_s: почему может в Django не отображаться статика ?
[20:58:10] erraen is now online
[20:58:14] k_s: в html выводится все правильно, ссылки на картинки правильные, а статика не видна нифига
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[20:58:54] Darth Лис: заговор, не иначе
[20:59:14] Darth Лис: k_s: http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/howto/static-files/
[20:59:23] k_s: ))
[20:59:33] k_s: пасиб
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[21:04:05] |: k_s, криво настроен веб-сервер у тебя
[21:04:34] k_s: runserver настроен криво
[21:04:35] k_s: )
[21:04:46] k_s: не у меня
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[21:04:54] XIT is now dnd
[21:05:24] |: ок, не у тебя не криво не настроен не веб-сервер :)
[21:05:30] k_s: :D
[21:05:38] k_s: у меня другая трабла
[21:05:43] cybergrind is now online
[21:05:48] k_s: как pkg-config запустить из под венды
[21:06:21] k_s: точнее при setup.py install он говорит что у меня pkg-шняги этой нету.... а я её уже поставил, кинул в папку windows, все библиотеки для неё скачал и она по идее уже работает
[21:06:22] k_s: однако...
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[21:10:48] k_s: что это вообще такое ?
[21:10:53] k_s: pkg-config
[21:11:27] k_s: http://dumpz.org/21824/ - дамп сетапа
[21:12:15] |: скоро оптимизирую сервер - дампз будет работать стабильно )
[21:12:30] |: удивляюсь, когда вижу ссылки на дампз, он же тупит часто вроде :D
[21:12:55] k_s: не знаю
[21:12:58] k_s: норм у меня )
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[21:13:34] Darth Лис: piu-piu
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[21:13:42] Darth Лис: в смысле, paste.in.ua
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[21:14:03] |: да у него диз какой-то левый )
[21:14:20] k_s: а PIU наоборот тормозит
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[21:14:42] k_s: и вовсе не грузится
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[21:15:07] k_s: Darth Лис: на дампз не получается зайти ?
[21:15:22] Darth Лис: Internal Server Error
[21:15:28] Darth Лис: хехе
[21:15:45] cybergrind is now online
[21:15:48] k_s: а у меня заходит
[21:16:00] k_s: отголоски кэша
[21:16:02] k_s: )
[21:16:20] |: у кого интернал сервер егор?
[21:16:31] k_s: у егора мб
[21:16:48] k_s: Соединение было сброшено













Во время загрузки страницы соединение с сервером было сброшено.
[21:16:56] k_s: это PIU выдает
[21:17:16] |: не выдержал конкуренции с dumpz
[21:17:24] xa4a is now online
[21:17:37] |: где ваще пиранья, он живой?
[21:17:42] k_s: агг
[21:17:45] k_s: да
[21:18:10] erraen is now online
[21:18:14] k_s: интернет-провайдер так называется ))
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[21:19:17] xa4a: l: да он в тёплых краях
[21:19:33] xa4a: а сервак - пропил
[21:19:34] Darth Лис: |: у тебя 500 выдал
[21:19:38] Darth Лис: дампз
[21:19:50] Darth Лис: http://dumpz.org/21824/ поэтой ссылке
[21:20:07] |: жаль
[21:20:11] k_s: аэ
[21:20:16] k_s: но у меня открываецо :[
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[21:21:04] xa4a: /me давно не искал на дампзах по слову password
[21:21:12] k_s: ))
[21:21:12] xa4a: l: почему поиск по дате не сортируется?
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[23:24:00] |: а хз, проёб :)
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