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[00:09:51] Abyx: так... такой синтаксис таки возможен
[00:10:18] Abyx: obj .field
[00:10:41] Tony: наркоман?
[00:10:44] Abyx: проблема правда в числах =\
[00:10:52] Abyx: Tony: не совсем
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[00:19:37] jedgar: сделай свою версию питона, исходники ведь открыты =)
[00:20:10] Abyx: jedgar: не, мне для 2.5 надо
[00:20:52] jedgar: Abyx: исходники питона 2.5 открыты, афаик
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[00:21:40] Abyx: jedgar: мне надо чтоб работало в обычном питоне, который например у google apps engine стоит
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[00:22:00] jedgar: есть еще pypy
[00:22:07] Tony: на кой тебе тогда этот закос под 3.0?
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[00:22:41] Abyx: Tony: а при чем тут 3.0 ?
[00:22:44] Tony: в python ветки 2.x почти полная backward compatibility
[00:22:55] Tony: мне не ясно зачем такой изъеб с синтаксисом
[00:23:04] jedgar: Abyx: ты неправильно мыслишь, у питона есть свой стиль, свой codestyle, ты не питон хочешь, а другой язык
[00:23:15] Abyx: мне для DSL надо
[00:23:26] Tony: DSL?
[00:23:30] Abyx: да, я хочу "другой язык"
[00:23:41] Abyx: EDSL если точно
[00:23:43] Tony: а зачем тогда какие-то надежды на gae?
[00:23:47] Tony: EDSL?
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[00:24:08] Abyx: (embedded) domain specific language
[00:24:19] Tony: я знаю что это, но при чем тут он?
[00:24:29] jedgar: Abyx: т.е. только для себя, ну так сделай простенький компилятор из своего питона в обычный питон
[00:24:36] Abyx: при том что мне в питоне нужен такой едсл
[00:25:15] Abyx: транслятор юзать неудобно, отлаживать код сложно
[00:25:16] Tony: ты странно мыслишь и путаешь разные уровни абстракции
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[00:25:55] Abyx: Tony: ты не понимаеш едсл %)
[00:26:31] Tony: а ты не понимаешь python :)
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[00:26:52] jedgar: Abyx: ага, много сложностей, проще слегка себя поправить и отказаться от этого странного foo arg :)
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[00:28:07] jedgar: ну или писать типа f('foo arg')
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[09:55:30] mishok13: http://www.python.org/community/jobs/index.html#firefly-e-ventures-hindustan-times-company-gurgaon-india
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[09:56:14] mishok13: быдлокод знатный
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[10:00:39] Sevenov: бле
[10:00:54] Sevenov: >10-12 yrs
толсто.
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[10:04:06] mishok13: класс старый
[10:04:13] mishok13: метод не принимает аргументов
[10:04:25] mishok13: if enjoy_working_late_nights == True:
quality += 1

[10:04:30] mishok13: за такое вообще пиздить надо
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[10:47:53] mr.oduvan: Всем привет
[10:48:24] mr.oduvan: Заглянул по доброте бушевной в django.Sites
[10:48:45] mr.oduvan: в модели
[10:49:19] nott is now online
[10:49:32] mr.oduvan: у них там есть типа кеш на глобальных функциях
[10:49:46] mr.oduvan: на глобальной переменной
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[10:50:09] mr.oduvan: и в моделе
[10:50:12] mr.oduvan: def save(self, *args, **kwargs):
super(Site, self).save(*args, **kwargs)
# Cached information will likely be incorrect now.
if self.id in SITE_CACHE:
del SITE_CACHE[self.id]
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[10:50:21] mr.oduvan: поростите за код в канал.
[10:50:28] mr.oduvan: это же бредовая идея
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[10:51:22] mr.oduvan: в продекшене после внесения изменения в эту модель всеравно надо будет перередергивать сервак
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[10:52:46] xa4a: в продакшне ты в эту модель изменений не вносишь, каг бэ
[10:53:01] xa4a: и э..
[10:53:12] xa4a: почему? кеш же сбрасывается?
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[10:54:42] mr.oduvan: у тебя висит 5 процессов
[10:54:53] mr.oduvan: в продакшене
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[10:55:12] mr.oduvan: реквест на изменение прошел только в один из них
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[10:55:22] mr.oduvan: остальные 4 про него не знают
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[10:55:41] mr.oduvan: на деве конечно это норм
[10:56:03] mr.oduvan: просто детишки посмотрят в такой код, и ведь захотят так-же сделать!
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[11:08:57] wiz: а где можно про quicksort почитать простым языком? а то я питонокод по алгоритму написал, но как-то никак не грокну что же там происходит...
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[11:10:49] Typhon: википедия? http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%91%D1%8B%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D1%81%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%82%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BA%D0%B0
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[11:12:49] stanislav.pugachev: привет. почему в базу могут писаться абсолютные пути к файлам вместо относительных при сохранении картинок?
[11:13:39] stanislav.pugachev: медот save и url в модели не перееоперделены
[11:13:49] stanislav.pugachev: обычный model.ImageField
[11:14:06] stanislav.pugachev: models*
[11:14:09] mr.oduvan: потому что они пишутся относительно MEDIA_URL
[11:14:25] mr.oduvan: чтоб получить абсолютный
[11:14:31] stanislav.pugachev: MEDIA_URL = '/media/'
[11:14:36] mr.oduvan: obj.my_img.url
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[11:15:15] stanislav.pugachev: ну я так понимаю берется медиа_урл к нему джоинится значение из базы и так получается тот my_img.url
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[11:15:55] mr.oduvan: если ты понимаешь, что в чем проблема?
[11:16:18] stanislav.pugachev: проблема в том что в доках написано что пути в базе должны быть относительные
[11:16:26] stanislav.pugachev: я сохраняю модель в админке
[11:16:27] deepwalker: кстати вот как делаются описалки в сварге, если интересно кому http://bitbucket.org/deepwalker/svarga/changeset/da4f48013cee
[11:16:32] stanislav.pugachev: смотрю в базу - там пути абсолютные
[11:17:01] mr.oduvan: хуиз сварга?
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[11:17:38] gf: mr.oduvan в Quake играл?
[11:17:59] mr.oduvan: :) бло дело
[11:18:14] gf: вот там они и были.. :)
[11:18:16] stanislav.pugachev: блин пацаны) в чем борода с этими путями?
[11:18:20] mr.oduvan: а
[11:18:23] _lorien: сварго это убийца django
[11:18:26] mr.oduvan: знаеш чо может быть
[11:18:35] _lorien: stanislav.pugachev, берид дебагер в руки и смотри, почему пишется абс.путь
[11:18:42] mr.oduvan: если не обращать внимание на "блин пацаны"
[11:18:45] _lorien: или не дебагер, а тучу print'ов )
[11:18:49] gf: _lorien %) ты серьезно?
[11:19:00] _lorien: gf, да
[11:19:29] mr.oduvan: у тебя upload_to абсолютный
[11:19:48] gf: mr.oduvan http://mrjoes.tumblr.com/post/508537910/svarga-web
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[11:20:02] stanislav.pugachev: да абсолютный
[11:20:03] _lorien: gf, ааа, ты про сваргу ))
[11:20:05] stanislav.pugachev: щас проверю
[11:20:15] mr.oduvan: перестал читать после
[11:20:17] mr.oduvan: "Svarga - еще один web фреймворк"
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[11:20:21] _lorien: не, про сваргу я шутил :D
[11:20:29] gf: аа... :)
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[11:20:41] gf: а я то думал, что новый ветер подул..
[11:20:45] deepwalker: mr.oduvan, ну сиди думай над путями :-P
[11:20:55] _lorien: gf, не, ну если поднажать... но это надо сильно поднажать )
[11:20:56] deepwalker: и еще над кучей ботвы
[11:20:57] mr.oduvan: а должен быть относительный
[11:21:07] mr.oduvan: отнасительно медиа пас
[11:21:16] mr.oduvan: вот так вот.. блин пацан :)
[11:21:20] deepwalker: а я прочел дальше слов
[11:21:23] _lorien: относительно медиа рут
[11:21:26] Sevenov: mr.oduvan, жангофан шоле?
[11:21:41] Sevenov: mr.oduvan, жанга в этом сезоне не модна, ты опоздал.
[11:21:45] mr.oduvan: Ой... ладно Вам..
[11:22:01] mr.oduvan: что? уже надо пересаживатся?
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[11:22:05] deepwalker: жанга в пролете
[11:22:07] _lorien: я пока на джанге :)
[11:22:15] _lorien: она меня кормит :D
[11:22:17] deepwalker: я тоже, по работе : )
[11:22:32] deepwalker: но у нас один проект просто
[11:22:39] mr.oduvan: и что у нас сегодня в моде?
[11:22:50] gf: у меня тоже проблема:
в админке создано два района: Свердловский и Тюменский
в шелле пишу: Raion.objects.all()
выдает: [<Raion: Свердловский>]
не могу понять куда делся Тюменский..?
[11:22:57] mr.oduvan: в каком новом фреймворке надо начинать наступать на грабли? :)
[11:23:23] _lorien: на тюменский скинули бомбу
[11:23:37] gf: _lorien меня бы уже не было..
[11:23:42] mr.oduvan: мож менеджер переопределен?
[11:23:44] wiz: gf, objects мобыть переопределял?
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[11:23:50] wiz: а оно точно создалось?
[11:23:54] wiz: в админке видно?
[11:23:54] deepwalker: надо просто изменить свое отношение
[11:23:57] gf: 100%..
[11:24:03] deepwalker: фреймворк не что-то статичное
[11:24:03] gf: да, конечно..
[11:24:10] _lorien: gf, бери дебагер в руки и смотри :)
[11:24:12] deepwalker: это тот же кусок кода
[11:24:29] _lorien: посмотри какой sql генерится, если правильный, значит смотри уже чо делается с выборкой после обращения к бд
[11:24:48] gf: _lorien я не совсем понимаю процедуру дебага этого бага.. (сорри за каламбур)
[11:24:52] _lorien: если sql "неправильный" значит ты запрос шлёшь явно или неявно изменный тем же кастомным менеджером, например
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[11:25:07] gf: ээ.. ок
[11:25:17] _lorien: gf, ну, полдня пытаешься понять, как django orm генерит запросы, потом кучу print'ов вставляешь в разные места
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[11:25:19] gf: пытаюсь разобраться..
[11:25:30] gf: гг... :)
[11:25:31] gf: ок
[11:25:36] Sevenov: deepwalker, люди перестали думать и без фреймворков писать не в состоянии. Нам больше работы, чо. И денег.
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[11:25:56] _lorien: ну за фреймворки тоже неплохо платят )
[11:26:18] Sevenov: есть планка, выше которой не прыгнешь.
[11:26:25] Sevenov: Платят не за фреймворки, а за мозги
[11:26:34] mr.oduvan: Sevenov, платят за работу :)
[11:26:52] gf: mr.oduvan скорее за результат.
[11:26:59] mr.oduvan: точно!
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[11:27:38] mr.oduvan: а то что без фрейморков работы больше - это факт, не спорю!
[11:28:06] mr.oduvan: deepwalker, идею с "не статичными" фреймворками я не понял
[11:28:11] deepwalker: а жангу я не люблю за то, что она в ногах путается
[11:28:38] mr.oduvan: есть отрицательные моменты - не спорю
[11:28:39] deepwalker: толпа каких то ограничений тупых
[11:28:48] deepwalker: есть, да они там везде
[11:28:58] mr.oduvan: да ну перестань
[11:29:03] deepwalker: да ну ни за что
[11:29:20] mr.oduvan: идеалогия с апами - вроде очень даже не плоха
[11:29:21] _lorien: джанго какашка, zend framework рулит
[11:29:27] deepwalker: лучше прочти дальше слов то
[11:29:46] mr.oduvan: я новый проект собираю за несколько минут..
[11:29:58] Sevenov: >а то что без фрейморков работы больше
А ничего, что фреймворк может ставить огромные палки в колёса, из-за котрых приходится потратить больше времени на реализацию мелочи?
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[11:30:27] Sevenov: >деалогия с апами - вроде очень даже не плоха
В джанге? Аппы? Небось, они там еще и реюзабельные?
[11:30:33] _lorien: Ну хуле, надо выбирать фреймворк правильно )
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[11:30:38] mr.oduvan: Sevenov конечно может.
[11:30:41] mr.oduvan: и что?
[11:30:59] deepwalker: джанга очень много палок вставляет
[11:31:03] Sevenov: а то, что не надо завязываться на фреймворке, тем более на джанге.
[11:31:07] deepwalker: особенно с шаблонами
[11:31:14] mr.oduvan: просто слово "мелочь" - привязано к окружению вот и все
[11:31:43] deepwalker: requestcontext это вообще ужас ночи
[11:31:45] _lorien: > а то, что не надо завязываться на фреймворке, тем более на джанге.
без контекста утверждение не имеет смысла
[11:31:49] mr.oduvan: то что кто-то без фреймворка делает 2 дня - для джанго - мелоч
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[11:32:22] stanislav.pugachev: вы еще django-cms вспомните.. ото где жара
[11:32:28] Typhon: то, что кто-то с джангой делает за 2 дня, без фреймворка -- мелочь ^_^
[11:32:45] mr.oduvan: конечно и обратное тоже верно
[11:33:13] mr.oduvan: но вот как раз и в том-то и задача фреймворка, чтоб обратный "мелочей" было меньше чем прямых
[11:33:17] _lorien: я два дня только vim настраиваю
[11:33:22] stanislav.pugachev: mr.oduvan, спасибо все встало на свои места:)
[11:33:34] Sevenov: то, что кто-то с без фреймворка делает 2 дня - для джанго - мелочь, а вот потом как натыкаешься на то, что реализвать не реально, идешь в их код и наслаждаешься NIH-синдромом.
[11:33:41] stanislav.pugachev: два дня..?? я два года уже настраиваю ))
[11:34:07] Sevenov: >наслаждаешься NIH-синдромом.
Последствиями NIH-синдрома.
[11:34:08] mr.oduvan: Sevenov у меня "нереального" небыло ни разу
[11:34:17] stanislav.pugachev: и шо часто нереальное бывает?
[11:34:24] stanislav.pugachev: mr.oduvan, опередил )
[11:34:37] _lorien: если пихать джангу куда ни попадя, то вероятно, нереальное будет очень часто :D
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[11:35:24] mr.oduvan: да. у фреймворка есть определенная область применения, которая меньше чем у языка. Это надо понимать, когда его выбираешь
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[11:36:29] stanislav.pugachev: не. ну ГУИ наверняка сложно на джанге писать. это я бы сказал нереально )
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[11:37:43] mr.oduvan: deepwalker, таки прошелся по разделам и примерам кода
[11:38:17] deepwalker: я прям чую - следующим будет "ну и фигня, жанга какая-то недоделанная"
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[11:38:32] mr.oduvan: на мой взягляд, для фремворка еще определяющим может быть комьюнити и документация
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[11:38:43] Sevenov: А что, на джанге нельзя ГУИ?
[11:38:46] Sevenov: Фууууу.
[11:39:08] mr.oduvan: не хочется взявши фреймворворк остаться на едине с его проблемами
[11:39:08] stanislav.pugachev: я как ни зайду так тут один и тот же срач )
[11:39:11] Sevenov: > определяющим может быть комьюнити
Именно коммьюнити и отталкивает от джанги.
[11:39:14] deepwalker: mr.oduvan, а на мой взгляд, у нас есть комьюнити
[11:39:41] deepwalker: но вам в него пока рано ;-)
[11:39:50] deepwalker: вот как жангой наедитесь
[11:39:53] mr.oduvan: Sevenov, почему, вот парень зашел и задал вопрос про идейдж вилд, я ему ответил
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[11:40:30] mr.oduvan: в python.su мне часто помогали
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[11:40:37] stanislav.pugachev: не парень а пацан ))))))
[11:40:40] stanislav.pugachev: гегеге
[11:40:53] mr.oduvan: не понимаю, почему вы решили, что комьюнити плохое
[11:41:11] mr.oduvan: deepwalker, "у нас"?
[11:41:17] mr.oduvan: это твое твоерение?
[11:41:29] deepwalker: нет, я простой контрибутор
[11:41:35] Sevenov: mr.oduvan, к коммьюнити относится и готовый код, авторы которого, похоже, не слышали о DRY
[11:42:01] deepwalker: меня не пугает сырость фреймворка, руки то есть
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[11:42:23] stanislav.pugachev: а почему сырость то?
[11:42:24] mr.oduvan: Sevenov, к комьюнити не относится код. Но раз уж сказали, то может есть примеры?
[11:42:36] deepwalker: ну не сырость, просто пробелы иногда случаются : )
[11:42:44] deepwalker: вот описаловок одно время не было
[11:42:45] stanislav.pugachev: наапример )
[11:42:53] Sevenov: mr.oduvan, к коммьюнити относятся авторы кода.
[11:42:56] deepwalker: их недавно вкрутили
[11:43:05] deepwalker: еще у меня babel в процессе
[11:43:12] deepwalker: то есть он работает, причесать надо
[11:43:16] mr.oduvan: deepwalker, сырость мешает в определении сроков
[11:43:33] mr.oduvan: я и так сроки с большой погрешностью говорю
[11:43:50] mr.oduvan: а если еще и фреймворк допиливать, даже и прямыми руками
[11:44:26] mr.oduvan: а контрибутор - это типа докомичиваешь?
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[11:45:47] deepwalker: присылаю патчи
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[11:47:34] mr.oduvan: так это на пару с пираньей :)
[11:48:02] gf: как мне посмотреть какой sql-запрос к базе генерируется Django?
[11:48:39] mr.oduvan: у queryset есть свойство, точно не помню имя
[11:48:45] mr.oduvan: посмотри dir
[11:48:54] gf: ок
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[11:49:18] stanislav.pugachev: не
[11:49:26] stanislav.pugachev: там этот. конекшн.квериз
[11:49:38] stanislav.pugachev: в доках дето было
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[11:49:59] stanislav.pugachev: http://hateen.clients.kuwaitnet.net/en/mediacenter/videos/
[11:50:03] stanislav.pugachev: ой бля
[11:50:11] stanislav.pugachev: http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/faq/models/#how-can-i-see-the-raw-sql-queries-django-is-running
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[11:50:47] gf: stanislav.pugachev ага, то. :) сеньк
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[11:53:16] mr.oduvan: хм... что-то я не нашел в кваери
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[11:56:00] deepwalker: mr.oduvan, не, там пиранья и joes корные разработчики : )
[11:56:56] mr.oduvan: и уже 5 форков
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[11:57:49] mr.oduvan: а стореджи есть?
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[12:06:38] mr.oduvan: http://mrjoes.tumblr.com/
[12:06:46] mr.oduvan: последние три поста об асп
[12:06:56] mr.oduvan: а хобби - питон?
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[12:11:05] mr.oduvan: последний ченжсет больше месяца назад
[12:11:06] mr.oduvan: ?
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[12:18:33] deepwalker: ну почему месяц то :) только сегодня коммитил, просто в основную ветку еще не переложили
[12:18:40] deepwalker: ревью происходит как раз
[12:19:09] deepwalker: пиранья просто путешествовал
[12:19:27] deepwalker: а это не форки
[12:19:38] deepwalker: это личные репки, что вообще в DVCS принято
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[12:35:26] wiz: а что там за тёрки, что в py3k не будет WSGI и что всем на него насрать?
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[12:43:53] deepwalker: да будет конечно
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[12:44:07] deepwalker: просто надо разобраться, нужно ли каждый запрос переводить в юникод
[12:44:15] deepwalker: и кому это нужно : )
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[12:44:21] wiz: а почему они который год уже это не могут решить?
[12:44:34] deepwalker: да пока никого не прижарили видимо
[12:44:46] deepwalker: ну то есть все на двойке же тусуют
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[12:45:16] deepwalker: решат, или можно помочь в принципе : )
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[12:45:22] deepwalker: комьюнити открыто
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[12:45:37] Sevenov: Протокол нужен новый
[12:45:43] Sevenov: закопать хттп
[12:46:42] wiz: ну для вебсокетов тоже пока нет *sgi
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[13:06:00] огыешсук: зато их уже поддерживает 4й фокс и свежий хром; кто-нибудь в курсе насчёт ia?
[13:06:23] огыешсук: * iE
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[13:28:35] deepwalker: иа? я бы его запретил законодательно
[13:28:48] deepwalker: тормоз прогресса сплошной
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[13:31:45] mishok13: ну, если закапывать хттп, то альтернатива -- только гофер
[13:31:51] mishok13: всё остальное стрёмное
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[13:32:02] Typhon: на вайо с 7ой вендой, кстати, ие нету -- вместо него хроме
[13:32:57] огыешсук: на eee`шке с 7й виндой iE есть
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[13:33:55] gf: Запрашиваю psql'em содержимое таблицы "районы":
db=# SELECT * from gis_raion;
id | ext_id | name | polygon
---+---------+----------------------+------------
1 | | Свердловский | 010300
(1 запись)

Но вот интересно, откуда django берет "Тюменский" район, который django в админке показывает? (и откуда этот район был создан..)
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[13:35:00] gf: не люблю магию.. :(
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[13:35:47] wiz: из кэша?
[13:35:52] novus42: а ты точно в ту базу смотришь?
[13:36:12] gf: ну она единственная.. щас кеш почищу..
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[13:37:59] gf: кеш чистый, база та самая.. в админке две записи, в базе одна запись.. %(
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[13:38:50] mr.oduvan: DVCS
[13:39:09] nmk: gf: включи логирование запросов в постгресе и погляди что за запросы идут
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[13:40:59] gf: >>> Raion.objects.all()
<< [<Raion: Свердловский>]
>>> connection.queries
<<
[{'sql': 'SELECT postgis_lib_version()', 'time': '0.014'},
{'sql': 'SELECT "gis_raion"."id", "gis_raion"."ext_id", "gis_raion"."name", "gis_raion"."polygon" FROM "gis_raion" LIMIT 21',
'time': '0.002'}]
>>>
[13:41:41] gf: запросы верные..
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[13:42:32] nmk: так в админки то может другие запросы, не?
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[13:43:38] gf: может.. чем смотреть? debug-tool?
[13:43:49] Typhon: в постгре логирование вруби
[13:44:05] Typhon: а логи можно смотреть, например, tail'ом
[13:44:14] gf: Typhon ок
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[13:49:15] novus42: ./manage.py shell_plus и повтори запросы из интерпретатора
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[14:03:31] gf: novus42 то же самое..
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[14:05:48] mr.oduvan: у меня реально чувству, что ты стебаешься
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[14:07:14] gf: mr.oduvan ээ.. ты мне?
[14:07:30] mr.oduvan: угу...
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[14:08:12] gf: mr.oduvan хм.. даже не знаю что сказать.. чем я мог вызвать такие подозрения?
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[14:08:48] mr.oduvan: на самом деле это я в шутку сказал.. но реально ситуация какая-то тупиковая
[14:08:56] mr.oduvan: единственный вариант
[14:09:13] mr.oduvan: в темплейты админки захаркоден тюменский раен
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[14:09:19] mr.oduvan: или во вьюхе
[14:09:44] mr.oduvan: а айди у него какой?
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[14:11:16] gf: 2
[14:11:27] gf: e Свердловского = 1
[14:11:29] mr.oduvan: а добавь еще один раен
[14:11:32] gf: е=у
[14:11:34] mr.oduvan: он станет третим?
[14:11:49] mr.oduvan: а сделай гет пк=2
[14:11:51] gf: думаю, что да, если через админку добавлять..
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[14:12:02] mr.oduvan: а ты сделай
[14:13:09] gf: >>> Raion.objects.get(id=2)
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<input>", line 1, in <module>
File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/django/db/models/manager.py", line 119, in get
return self.get_query_set().get(*args, **kwargs)
File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/django/db/models/query.py", line 304, in get
% self.model._meta.object_name)
DoesNotExist: Raion matching query does not exist.
[14:13:19] gf: щас еще район добавлю..
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[14:15:18] novus42: не id, а pk
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[14:17:16] gf: novus42 mr.oduvan вопщем тоже.. http://pastebin.com/egfqp7Hy
[14:17:30] gf: щас логи в постгресе включу..
[14:17:41] gf: только вот нагуглю как это делается..
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[14:18:06] mr.oduvan: слушай
[14:18:14] mr.oduvan: а если ты в админке ее удалишь
[14:18:21] mr.oduvan: и мы все вместе про это забудем
[14:18:24] mr.oduvan: просто
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[14:18:43] mr.oduvan: как будто небыло никакой Тюимени
[14:19:02] novus42: лол
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[14:19:23] gf: mr.oduvan ну тогда для этого надо боо-оольшой БУМ!
[14:19:37] gf: и средства для его доставки..
[14:19:48] gf: :)
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[14:20:44] gf: но лучше не надо: Тюмень это небольшой город, с хорошими дорогами и развитой социалкой, без вредных производств.. будет жалко..
[14:21:29] deepwalker: и с нефтянкой, да
[14:21:37] deepwalker: хороший, удобный город : )
[14:21:54] deepwalker: знакомые нефтяники очень тепло отзывались
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[14:23:27] gf: deepwalker дада.. правда и здесь пробки есть, но если живешь и работаешь на одной стороне, то вообще без проблем, я, на машине, до работы за 8 минут добираюсь..
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[14:24:27] deepwalker: знакомые жили в центре, ходили пешком. Думаю это наложило отпечаток
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[14:25:04] nmk: а fabric кто-нибудь использует?
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[15:11:20] wiz: http://dumpz.org/21909/
кто-нибудь может объяснить зачем в шестой строке безусловный обмен элементов?
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[15:12:38] deepwalker: nmk, да
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[15:13:03] nmk: deepwalker: да я уже все нашел, что хотел. ssh key forwarding так еще и не научился он :)
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[15:15:33] deepwalker: а зачем?
[15:15:44] deepwalker: фронт-хост имеется?
[15:15:55] deepwalker: и с него типа надо рулить уже?
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[15:16:02] deepwalker: nmk, ^
[15:16:21] nmk: ну есть моя рабочая машинка с кучей ключей. на хосты ключи тащить не хочется
[15:16:40] deepwalker: а зачем тащить то?
[15:16:52] xa4a: wiz: чтобы двигать только элементы, которые меньше пивота, а которые больше - в результате сами останутся с нужной стороны
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[15:23:53] Typhon: !wtf regroup
[15:24:03] xa4a: хм
[15:24:06] Typhon: обновляли же
[15:24:17] Typhon: wiz
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[15:24:29] xa4a: !wtf list
[15:24:43] Typhon: !wtf grouper
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[15:25:09] xa4a: http://dumpz.org/1305/
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[15:25:15] xa4a: !wtf regroup http://dumpz.org/1305/
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[15:25:38] xa4a: наверно в кеше дисковом застряло до ребута
[15:26:14] Typhon: !wtf regroup
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[15:52:50] nmk: что-то я туплю
[15:52:52] nmk: http://paste.in.ua/1110/
[15:52:55] nmk: почему так?
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[15:54:39] deepwalker: а у меня тоже не совпадает
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[15:55:16] nmk: deepwalker: а import locale; locale.getdefaultlocale() что отдает?
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[15:56:03] deepwalker: ('ru_RU', 'UTF8')
[15:56:26] nmk: а если выполнить мой скрипт, то что вернется?
[15:56:47] deepwalker: LANG=ru_RU.UTF-8
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[16:21:15] xa4a: bb лежит, так же?
[16:22:00] xa4a: а, не. это я..
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[16:22:20] piranha: xa4a: когда лежишь - до стола далеко тянуться
[16:22:22] piranha: я б на твоëм месте сел
[16:22:35] xa4a: нет, таки он
[16:22:41] xa4a: Bitbucket will have scheduled downtime maintenance <http://blog.bitbucket.org/2010/08/25/bitbucket-downtime-for-a-hardware-upgrade/> for 1 hour on Monday, August 30, 01:00 GMT.

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[16:25:00] bobry: камрады, шо щас модно спрашивать на собеседованиях?
[16:25:05] bobry: а то у меня тут целых два на носу
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[16:25:32] piranha: чо такое декоратор? метакласс? как узнать наличие атрибута у класса?
[16:25:35] piranha: чонить такое?
[16:25:37] Typhon: давай сразу домашнее задание, еще в вакансии. чтобы шлак явный отсортировать сразу
[16:25:40] Typhon: piranha: с возвращением
[16:25:49] bobry: да, кстати :)
[16:25:52] bobry: велкам бек
[16:25:59] MAVr is now Да, я тут
[16:26:11] bobry: piranha, это какие то скучные вопросы, ты собеседуешь кого чтоли периодически?
[16:26:12] Typhon: bobry: у мишка есть клевая пачка вопросов, по основным темам.
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[16:26:22] bobry: а иде найти можно?
[16:26:31] piranha: Typhon: :)
[16:26:32] bobry: в смысле онлайн где то?
[16:26:38] piranha: bobry: 3 месяца назад собеседовал )
[16:26:45] bobry: успешно?
[16:26:47] piranha: Typhon: домашнее задание может быть фейлом
[16:26:49] Typhon: bobry: mishok13 спроси :)
[16:26:54] bobry: :D
[16:26:57] mishok13: ШТО
[16:27:01] piranha: успешно, в принципе, но я был помощнегом
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[16:27:11] Typhon: piranha: почему? главное не заебистое, но чтобы вообще нули не шли
[16:27:13] piranha: в плане мне только знание питона и адеватность в нëм надо было оценить
[16:27:23] piranha: Typhon: ну в принципе может быть, но надо выдумать
[16:27:24] bobry: mishok13, тут говорят у тебя пачка вопросов есть по питону, правда?
[16:27:27] mishok13: задания на собеседования, ага
[16:27:28] Typhon: если чел ломашку сделал, он хотя б в доках шарить умеет
[16:27:29] mishok13: да, есть
[16:27:33] Typhon: *домашку
[16:27:35] mishok13: 20 баксов
[16:27:38] Typhon: :D
[16:27:39] bobry: тьфу ты :)
[16:27:40] mishok13: ;)
[16:27:42] bobry: не интересно
[16:27:44] piranha: bobry: у нас был клëвый быстрый вопрос - как отсортировать массив из булеанов длиной больше половины памяти
[16:27:56] Typhon: да, это клевый вопрос, я уж тоже задавал )
[16:28:03] piranha: :)
[16:28:07] bobry: хммм
[16:28:11] piranha: сразу показывает, насколько человек знает питон
[16:28:26] mishok13: в принципе, могу выслать
[16:28:27] Typhon: http://paste.in.ua/1111/
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[16:28:34] Typhon: вот такое последнее было ^
[16:28:40] piranha: ггг
[16:28:42] piranha: жестяк
[16:28:49] piranha: у нас только один чувак на собеседовании заюзал sum
[16:28:52] mishok13: груснявки
[16:28:53] piranha: мы его взяли )
[16:28:59] mishok13: хача небось
[16:29:01] piranha: ага
[16:29:04] piranha: :)))
[16:29:12] bobry: IndentationError йома
[16:29:13] piranha: Севе не давали правда вопрос, я с ним раньше его обсуждал
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[16:29:28] piranha: bobry: IndentationLOL
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[16:30:05] xa4a: piranha: я вряд ли sum заюзал. я честно признавался в знакомых вопросах)
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[16:30:39] piranha: дык ты ж не знал вопроса?
[16:30:46] xa4a: разве?
[16:30:50] piranha: по-моему да
[16:30:55] xa4a: mishok13: знал же?
[16:31:00] piranha: хм
[16:31:01] xa4a: /me уже не помнит :)
[16:31:09] piranha: по крайней мере мне так кажется
[16:31:16] piranha: ааа, или тиларидс
[16:31:30] piranha: но мы его не взяли, лимит бабла :'(
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[16:32:08] mishok13: я хз, мы вообще двоих прохлопали
[16:32:17] piranha: :))
[16:32:29] mishok13: и оба теперь с тобой работают
[16:32:31] piranha: mishok13: ну потому нам и повезло :)
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[16:32:32] piranha: ггг
[16:32:33] mishok13: ARGH
[16:32:45] piranha: ARGV
[16:32:50] bobry: хпх
[16:33:00] bobry: черт, опечатался ругательным словом почти
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[16:33:34] xa4a: вопросы по питону, ваще-та, на брейнбенче и на одеске
[16:33:46] xa4a: и ещё какой-то .ру аналог
[16:33:50] piranha: одеск гавно
[16:33:58] piranha: вопросы по питону там гавно в смысле
[16:34:05] mishok13: на брейнбенче очень забавные вопросы
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[16:34:28] bobry: одеск скучный ага
[16:34:33] bobry: а на брейнбенче за денежки?
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[16:34:48] mishok13: ага
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[16:35:45] xa4a: я когда-то на шару по какой-то акции прошёл..
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[16:35:51] piranha: я тоже
[16:35:55] piranha: но плохо помню
[16:36:01] piranha: помню только, что они шаровые были довольно
[16:37:01] Typhon: шо надо курить, если нужно научиться давать разным пользователям разные права на разные куски hg репки? acl и subrepos хватит?
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[16:37:49] piranha: думаю, что да
[16:38:00] piranha: может даже отдельно того или того хватит
[16:38:15] piranha: как-то не задумывался :)
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[16:44:00] mr.oduvan: Пиранья, привет, помоему ты популяризировал Редис
[16:44:02] mr.oduvan: ?
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[16:45:25] slav0nic: пиар менеджер
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[16:45:46] piranha: mr.oduvan: немного
[16:46:02] mr.oduvan: :) слушай... мы тут только что краш тесты его делали
[16:46:12] mr.oduvan: манюсенький.
[16:46:19] piranha: ага, и?
[16:46:26] mr.oduvan: получается, что он падает, когда память кончается
[16:46:31] slav0nic: в общем ща тя проклянут
[16:46:39] slav0nic: получается вы не читаете доков
[16:46:47] mr.oduvan: не... прокляли, если он упал на продакшене :)
[16:46:51] mishok13: but it is webscale
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[16:47:17] piranha: mr.oduvan: вы старый юзали?
[16:47:20] piranha: vm включали?
[16:47:24] piranha: почему доки не прочли? :)
[16:47:25] mr.oduvan: я думал, что память - просто переходное этап
[16:47:32] mr.oduvan: :) как почему...
[16:47:35] piranha: последний вопрос - самый важный :)
[16:47:36] mr.oduvan: потому что лентяи..
[16:47:43] piranha: ;)
[16:48:10] mr.oduvan: т.е. надо включить vm
[16:48:14] piranha: ага
[16:48:17] mr.oduvan: и все... будет счастье
[16:48:32] piranha: потенциально
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[16:48:37] piranha: зависит от ожиданий :)
[16:48:51] mr.oduvan: эм... ожидается счастье :)
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[16:49:43] piranha: не, ну если вы вдруг ожидаете что-то типа mysql, то это не оно
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[16:50:20] mr.oduvan: не.. пока интересуют только краштесты :)
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[16:50:29] mr.oduvan: уже спалили 2 ноута
[16:50:48] piranha: o_O
[16:50:50] piranha: спалили?
[16:50:59] mr.oduvan: что он падает при температуре 10000 градусов
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[16:58:43] mr.oduvan: vm - есть только в новой версии?
[16:58:51] piranha: да
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[16:59:41] piranha: mr.oduvan: http://antirez.com/post/redis-virtual-memory-story.html
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[17:17:46] slav0nic: ёпта в WYMEditor чтоли нет смены цвета текста из коробки...
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[17:34:00] xa4a: интересно, орги ещё помнят, что хотели делать pycon?
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[17:34:57] piranha: вроде что-то шевелится
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[17:35:00] piranha: но хз, много ли
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[17:42:27] mishok13: хз, я вообще выпал из обоймы
[17:42:46] mishok13: как бы, Володя должен был всеми руководить, желающих помочь было немало
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[17:43:50] tilarids: очерт, пикон 23-24 октября!
[17:44:04] Typhon: ага, а регистрация началась 15 августа!
[17:44:07] tilarids: 23-го я уже пролетел
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[17:44:20] tilarids: и регистрацию по отсутсвию пропустил
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[17:44:43] xa4a: не пропустил
[17:44:52] Typhon: ну да, там нету еще ничего :(
[17:44:55] tilarids: в смысле, начало регистрации
[17:44:57] Typhon: не накрылось бы
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[17:45:04] Typhon: не накроется, знающие?
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[17:45:57] tilarids: так а регистрироваться напрямую у Гоцика? или где эта регистрация?
[17:46:38] Typhon: да нету её
[17:46:48] tilarids: гм, его никто не пинал?
[17:46:52] Typhon: с 1 августа перенесли на 15, да так и висит
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[17:49:44] piranha: непонятно шо :(
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[17:52:17] mr.oduvan: так VM во второй версии автоматом включен... это не параметр конфига?
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[17:56:59] tilarids: я Гоцика пнул, может он забыл :)
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[18:02:26] nmk: а с монгой и с ее репликасетами кто-нибудь заморачивался?
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[18:34:07] tilarids: Привіт. нічого стращного, технічні проблеми. післязавтра запустимо обов’язково - это про PyCon от Гоцика
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[20:26:38] mr.oduvan: Народ, кто в линкедине шарит?
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[21:30:01] Lispython is now online
[21:30:31] Lispython: привет, ктонибудь сталкивался с такой ошибкой
[21:30:35] Lispython: venv/bin/python
Could not find platform independent libraries <prefix>
Could not find platform dependent libraries <exec_prefix>
Consider setting $PYTHONHOME to <prefix>[:<exec_prefix>]
'import site' failed; use -v for traceback
Python 2.5.2 (r252:60911, Jan 20 2010, 23:14:04)
[GCC 4.2.4 (Ubuntu 4.2.4-1ubuntu3)] on linux2
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>>

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[21:31:56] Lispython: а самая жесть
[21:31:59] Lispython: >>> exit()
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
NameError: name 'exit' is not defined
>>>
[21:32:00] bobry: ого
[21:32:08] bobry: а без venv работает?
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[21:32:57] Lispython: python
Python 2.6.5 (r265:79063, Apr 16 2010, 13:57:41)
[GCC 4.4.3] on linux2
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> version
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
NameError: name 'version' is not defined
>>> from sys import version
>>> version
'2.6.5 (r265:79063, Apr 16 2010, 13:57:41) \n[GCC 4.4.3]'
>>>

[21:33:27] Lispython: дело в том, что я сервер обновлял
[21:33:27] bobry: а virtualenv какая версия?
[21:33:30] bobry: может с ней что не так?
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[21:34:06] Lispython: и решил не разворачивать заново, а просто скопировать старую папку c виртуальным окружением
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[21:35:19] Lispython: virtualenv --version
1.4.5

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[21:36:12] bobry: а новое окружение пробовал создавать?
[21:36:25] bobry: у меня вроде тоже недавно обновлялся пакет — никаких сложностей не было
[21:37:04] Lispython: да скорее всего, эх
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[21:37:39] Lispython: python 2.6 по умолчанию, а был всё писалось под 2.5
[21:37:45] Lispython: хотя они вроде совместимы
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[21:43:31] Zubchick is now holi macaroni
[21:44:46] Lispython: да, заработало
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[21:46:05] bobry: с новым окружением?
[21:46:11] bobry: какая же у тебя старая версия то стояла :)
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[21:49:11] Lispython: 2.5 была на сервере
[21:49:18] Lispython: на некоторых 2.6 использовалась
[21:49:23] bobry: да я про virtualenv
[21:49:30] bobry: не должно и за смены версии питона что то ломаться
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[21:50:25] Lispython: ну у меня окружение ещё использует библиотеки из системного питона
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[21:51:18] Lispython: #!/bin/sh
virtualenv --python=python2.6 --clear venv
./venv/bin/easy_install pip
./venv/bin/pip install -E venv -r ./req.txt
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[22:43:17] deepwalker: а как в бд найти максимальный префикс. То есть есть номер 913787878787 и в БД записан некий тариф 9137
[22:43:37] deepwalker: я пока только откусывая по цифре с конца могу предположить
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[22:55:45] xa4a: deepwalker: 913787878(?:7(?:8(?:7)?))
[22:55:49] xa4a: ну, ты понел
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[22:57:39] deepwalker: а, понял, tnx
[22:58:27] xa4a: def f(x): return x and '(?:%s%s)?' % (x[0], f(x[1:])) or ''
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[23:02:07] xa4a: тут бы пригодился Y-комбинатор, гм
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[23:04:45] deepwalker: а может не надо? : )
[23:04:48] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[23:05:01] Typhon: select * from prefixes where substr(prefix, 1, 1) = substr(number, 1, 1) and (number like prefix || '%') order by prefix desc limit 1; ^_^
[23:05:41] evrial is now online
[23:06:09] Typhon: prefix -- колонка в prefixes, number -- проверяемый номер
[23:06:29] Typhon: deepwalker, а чо ты там такое похожее делаешь, если не секрет? %)
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[23:09:49] serg.makar is now All the great things are simple
[23:10:09] deepwalker: ну тариф же нужно выдрать
[23:10:15] deepwalker: по телефонному номеру
[23:10:43] evrial is now online
[23:11:56] Typhon: запрос его и вернет -- строчку из префиксов с максимальным удовлетворяющим префиксом. а что ты делаешь, в смысле глобально, что за проект
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[23:24:09] deepwalker: это не то чтобы проект, это пока проект проекта : )
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[23:36:48] bobry: товарищи, шота у меня south ругается KeyError: "The model 'contenttype' from the app 'contentypes' is not available in this migration."
[23:37:06] bobry: хотя в туториале написано что именно так нужно обращаться к моделям из других приложений
[23:37:08] bobry: куда копать?
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[23:48:27] bobry: вот фигня же — букву t пропустил
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