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[00:04:38] cmdnews: враппер таки походу писать нужно, чтобы например на этапе когда получен список урлов картинок из загруженного документа добавить их сразу в очередь на загрузку а не ждать пока закончатся все текущие задачи. впринципе чем больше пишу тем больше понимаю ) этакий враппер будет классом с переменной держащей текущий список задачь, если нужно добавить задачу то просто проверяем есть ли в пуле место и добавляем, если места нет то добавляем в ожидающую очередь. периодически дергаем колво спободных слотов и добавляем задачи на обработку. работаем только с экземпляром класса а не обьектом (ну тут монопенисуально наверное) чтобы не затереть случайно ожидающие задачи в очереди и сам gevent
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[00:06:24] cmdnews: и если правильно понимаю то для пущей радости надо запускать новые задачи в порядке их поступления (фифо) либо накодить приоритеты - чтобы не случилось ситуации что висят 100 документов и ждут обработки картинок а на самом деле подгрузились новые документы
[00:06:35] _lorien: хз, чё-то многобукв, я лучше не буду читать :)
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[00:09:53] cmdnews: я с непривычки )
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[00:10:11] cmdnews: ужо иду кодить ) сделай скидку новичку
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[05:00:38] webninja: халп
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[05:00:53] webninja: bobry ты умный, выручай
[05:00:57] webninja: есть короче 2а фрэйма
[05:01:19] webninja: я нахожусь во фрейме номер 1 (<iframe>)
[05:01:35] webninja: и мне надо все нахуй закрыть все эти фрэймы и переместиться по урлу
[05:01:49] webninja: javascript нужен
[05:02:08] bobry: херасе обозвал О_О
[05:02:18] bobry: все эти это какие?
[05:02:36] webninja: просто переместиться надо
[05:03:07] webninja: все и 1ый и 2ой
[05:03:11] bobry: т.е. ты в айфрейме, а надо сделать редирект в родительском фрейме
[05:03:12] bobry: так?
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[05:04:04] webninja: короче так. есть 2а айфрэйма. верхний и нижний. верхний как тулбар. и тут мне приспичило его закрыть. как это сделать? код нижнего я естественно поменять не могу
[05:04:37] bobry: удалить тег iframe? :)
[05:04:42] bobry: первое что пришло в голову
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[05:05:56] bobry: в интернетах пишут что можно еще через window.parent.closeIframe(), если js исполняется в ifram'e
[05:07:58] webninja: щаз попробую
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[05:20:16] webninja: чет не получается
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[06:26:56] webninja: все сделал
[06:26:57] webninja: вроде
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[06:30:31] webninja: пока просто редирект
[06:30:46] webninja: хотелось бы канешно просто яваскриптом чтобы не перезагружать пэйдж
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[06:31:28] webninja: <html>код тулбара.<iframe>original page</iframe></html>
[06:31:36] webninja: это вообще реально сделать?
[06:33:28] bobry: так
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[06:33:49] bobry: ты уверен что тебе вообще iframe нужен?
[06:34:18] bobry: тут какой то design fail если тебе надо в процессе из iframe убрать тулбар
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[06:37:23] webninja: абсолютно
[06:37:38] webninja: не мне особо не нужно его убирать
[06:37:49] webninja: но было бы прикольно иметь кнопку close
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[06:41:50] bobry: тока думаю reload only
[06:41:59] bobry: т.е. ты конечно можешь опять же, удалить элемент тулбара
[06:42:09] bobry: но это как то криво
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[06:57:14] webninja: да
[06:57:24] webninja: можно было бы
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[08:00:51] webninja: не
[08:00:53] webninja: pidgin
[08:01:03] webninja: хотя они наверное одинаковые
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[08:08:36] webninja: что это?
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[08:12:41] webninja: ах это браузер?
[08:12:56] webninja: кстати bobry ты использовал webkit?
[08:13:05] bobry: в смысле?
[08:13:14] webninja: в прямом
[08:13:17] bobry: не, это im — просто написан на движке mozillы
[08:13:23] webninja: ааа
[08:13:26] bobry: в смысле как пользователь?
[08:13:32] webninja: как программист
[08:13:36] bobry: неа
[08:13:40] webninja: а че его можно как пользователь использовать?
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[08:13:54] webninja: я вот щупал чутка selenium
[08:14:02] bobry: да как угодно можно
[08:14:24] webninja: у меня есть другая штука human emulator но там пхп + IE и это пиздец обламывает.
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[08:16:52] bobry: если честно, я никогда не пробовал selenium
[08:16:58] bobry: и слабо представляю как оно работает
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[08:17:29] webninja: сервер на яве запускает файрфокс. под него либы которые им управляют в том числе и на питоне
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[08:19:06] bobry: ну это видимо для функционального тестирования да?
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[08:50:53] bobry: лол, я нашел то что искал
[08:50:58] bobry: окончательно желтую новость на хабре
[08:51:00] bobry: про вич у жобса
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[09:35:13] piranha: когда пишут "кстати, бобры, ты использовал" - что-то рвëтся в моëм мозгу
[09:35:30] piranha: bobry: к тебе надо в множественном числе обращаться, по-моему :)))
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[09:35:41] piranha: bobry: бтв, 'y' - это 'ы'? Или другая задумка?
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[09:36:13] bobry: не, можно и в единственном, но задумка что бобры — ага
[09:36:28] bobry: хаха, не, ну можно и на вы
[09:36:35] _lorien: хм, а я думал, что бобрый
[09:36:42] bobry: чета гугл так пиарил свои closure templates
[09:36:44] _lorien: ну как добрый, но только бобрый
[09:36:46] piranha: лол
[09:36:56] bobry: а на деле вся вкусность в концепте только, реализация гамно
[09:37:08] bobry: все расширения на java ><
[09:37:10] piranha: а где там в концепте вкусность?
[09:37:12] piranha: омг гавно
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[09:37:32] piranha: мне нужны жабаскриптовые темплейты, желательно шоб компилялись в замыкания и я их мог отдавать так юзеру
[09:37:33] bobry: ну шо типа ты пишешь один раз для клиента и сервера
[09:37:46] piranha: хочу джинджу на джаваскрипте
[09:37:47] bobry: в замыкания?
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[09:37:51] piranha: ну, в функции
[09:37:56] bobry: кстати джанговские есть шаблоны
[09:37:57] bobry: для js
[09:38:00] piranha: покаж
[09:38:02] bobry: даже компилируемые
[09:38:06] bobry: ща, на гитхабе были
[09:38:28] bobry: https://github.com/comolongo/Yz-Javascript-Django-Template-Compiler
[09:38:46] piranha: опа-опа
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[09:38:54] piranha: если внутри не такое гавно, как у джанги, будет круто
[09:39:23] _lorien: мне на битбакете не хватает календарика, шобы тыкнул в чисо и он тебе все ченжсеты показал
[09:39:29] bobry: джанга ш не компилирует
[09:39:38] bobry: в стабильном релизе по крайней мере
[09:39:50] bobry: _lorien, на битбакете много чего не хватало и не хватает
[09:40:19] bobry: зато closure compiler кошерная штука, ловит всякие очепятки на ура
[09:40:25] piranha: джанга нигде не компилирует
[09:40:29] piranha: это невозможно
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[09:40:40] bobry: они ж вроде на GSoC предлагали таск?
[09:40:40] piranha: кложур компилер да, клëв
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[09:40:51] piranha: там нереально из-за внутренней архитектуры
[09:40:52] bobry: сделать компилируемые шаблоны?
[09:40:59] piranha: у них контекст динамичен как руби, если не больше
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[09:41:17] piranha: короче, сама мысль сделать темплейты так, как джанговые - ущербна
[09:41:28] piranha: как минимум им пипец из-за темплейттегов
[09:41:41] bobry: так контекст же появляется только на этапе .render(), в чем проблемы с транслированием в python код?
[09:41:42] piranha: лана, я понëсся на работу, а то митинг с утра
[09:41:46] bobry: uhuh
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[10:44:39] webninja: а зечем это нужно?
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[10:46:09] bobry: что?
[10:46:31] webninja: (10:37:36 AM) piranha: мне нужны жабаскриптовые темплейты, желательно шоб компилялись в замыкания и я их мог отдавать так юзеру
[10:46:49] bobry: шобы рендерить на клиенте
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[10:47:38] piranha: у меня всë приложение - жабоскрипт, а на питоне только апи для него
[10:48:01] piranha: bobry: да, в джанге основные проблемы в том, что семантика темплейтов отличается от семантики питона значительно
[10:48:43] piranha: и потому если ты напишешь компилятор темплейтов в AST, это будет хрень всë равно
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[10:49:04] bobry: гугл пошел по пути жанги, js в шаблонах исполнять низя
[10:49:17] piranha: плюс ты не можешь нормально их рендерить из-за того, что сраные темплейттеги работают в реалтайме
[10:49:35] piranha: т.е. ты не можешь из них выбить AST, они парсят свою строчку только уже со значениями и рендерят тебе строку
[10:49:43] piranha: т.е. ты не можешь из них питоновский код получить
[10:49:49] piranha: короче, пиздец! :)
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[10:50:34] piranha: нормально рендерить - в смысле построить питон. У джинджи, чтоб аст строилось, экстеншены выдают наружу всякие там блоки джинджевские
[10:50:36] bobry: надо бы почитать их код
[10:50:42] piranha: bobry: видел как экстеншены выглядят у джинджи?
[10:50:45] bobry: неа
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[10:50:47] webninja: что за аст?
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[10:50:55] bobry: !g AST wiki
[10:51:13] bobry: Abstract syntax tree, a finite, labeled, directed tree used in computer science
[10:51:22] piranha: bobry: http://hg.piranha.org.ua/svarga/file/tip/svarga/template/tags.py#l128
[10:51:23] webninja: Abstract syntax tree <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abstract_syntax_tree>,
[10:51:30] piranha: смотри вот
[10:51:47] piranha: для компиляции темплейта вызывается parse, который должен вернуть ноды, которые будут отрабатывать на рендеринге
[10:51:52] piranha: из этих нод и получается питоновский код
[10:52:08] piranha: и вот одна из нод - это вызов функции _static_url
[10:52:39] bobry: нода это и есть то что идет в код шаблона да?
[10:52:42] piranha: да
[10:52:45] piranha: в аст
[10:53:04] bobry: ну дык это совсем другой подход
[10:53:18] piranha: webninja: AST грубо говоря - это какое-то представление твоего кода для интерпретатора
[10:53:29] piranha: bobry: ну да, но поэтому их можно компилировать
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[10:53:32] bobry: .skip_if('coma') — круто
[10:53:35] piranha: в смысле и поэтому тоже
[10:53:45] piranha: ага, у тебя там парсер, а не строка бля
[10:53:48] bobry: меня сегда бесило что в джанге нет никаких вкусностей
[10:53:50] piranha: поэтому все теги работают одинаково
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[10:53:54] bobry: ага
[10:54:04] piranha: но тем не менее всë равно писать тяжелее
[10:54:07] piranha: посмотри там вверху :)
[10:54:21] piranha: на урлреверс, там больше возни Ж)
[10:54:23] piranha: :)
[10:54:58] bobry: ну немногим больше
[10:55:41] piranha: ну да
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[10:55:47] bobry: ох черт, какая же боль эти closure templates, не верю что гугл юзает их в продакшене, пусть сами пишут теги на java
[10:55:48] piranha: эх, смотрю на них - такие простенькие
[10:55:51] bobry: :))
[10:55:54] webninja: # TODO: Fix me after somebody will fix Jinja2 nodes.Call() code generation
[10:55:59] piranha: а как вспомню, скока я их писал :(
[10:56:23] bobry: ну если построчно разбирать, я далеко не все понимаю. очевидно надо нехило доки зачерпнуть
[10:56:24] piranha: webninja: да, там .Call() выдавал питон без перевода строки и потому всë глючило :) Вроде уже починили, но я не уверен
[10:56:40] piranha: bobry: да, но в конце-концов всë делает смысл
[10:57:01] bobry: хаха, как ты теперь. делает-делает.
[10:57:35] webninja: жир
[10:57:49] webninja: я пока правда плохо понял что и зачем )
[10:58:00] piranha: :)))
[10:58:07] webninja: Абстрактное синтаксическое дерево (АСД) — в информатике <http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%98%D0%BD%D1%84%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BC%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0> это конечное <http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%87%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B5_%D0%BC%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%BE>, помеченное, ориентированное дерево <http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%94%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%BE_%28%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%84%D0%BE%D0%B2%29>, в котором внутренние вершины сопоставлены с (помечены) операторами <http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9E%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80_%28%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5%29> языка программирования, а листья с соответствующими операндами <http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9E%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B4>.
[10:58:25] webninja: т.е. можно получается темплейт перевести на другой язык программирования?
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[10:58:48] bobry: ну если ты его сериализуешь во что нить то да :)
[10:58:48] piranha: это тебе надо тогда научиться генерацию аст (или кода) делать независимую
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[10:58:57] piranha: потому что у разных языков разный аст
[10:59:03] webninja: оо можно это дело еще визуально отображать
[10:59:10] piranha: но в принципе да, можно построить бекенды и генерировать
[10:59:12] piranha: а нах? :)
[10:59:23] bobry: ага, это как pycallgraph
[10:59:25] webninja: ну хз есть же уже подход типа визуальное программирование
[10:59:32] piranha: джинджевые экстеншены кстати прикольно дебажить, видно питон-код, в который они превращаются :)))
[10:59:37] webninja: русуешь связи между классами
[10:59:39] bobry: при более менее среднем проекте — полносью бесполезно, но феерично
[10:59:40] piranha: webninja: не, для человека AST y очень читаемо :D
[10:59:56] piranha: связи между классами от аст далеки так, как базы данных от булочек
[11:00:04] bobry: :D
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[11:00:56] webninja: в музыке есть такая штука Reactor . там можно синтезаторы собирать. есть несколько уровней типа самый низкий - простые схемы, логические винтили и уровень выше, когда оперируешь блоками. типа вот эта херня генерирует синусоиду, эта модулирует её и т.д. в программировании наверняка можно подобные штуки делать.
[11:01:34] webninja: !g NI Reactor
[11:02:09] bobry: мммм
[11:02:15] bobry: в программировании все так и работает :)
[11:03:10] piranha: webninja: куда было бы интереснее, если бы можно было не визуально, а программно
[11:03:41] piranha: webninja: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2379355/python-ast-processing
[11:03:47] piranha: на, посмотри, шо такое работа с астом %)
[11:03:49] webninja: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reaktor
[11:03:55] serg.makar is now online
[11:03:55] piranha: это такой низкий уровень, шо сорре
[11:04:33] alecs is now online
[11:05:03] webninja: там нечего программно делать. все просто. генераторы и фильтры.
[11:05:19] piranha: визуально - оно всегда ограничено
[11:05:27] erraen is now online
[11:05:28] piranha: это ж не реальный мир, что за тебя предусмотрели, то ты и можешь
[11:05:29] erraen is now online
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[11:05:46] Hanzo is now Audacious: Aranyanyara - The Overture by Entheogenic on Dialogue of the Speakers (6:47)
[11:06:00] erraen is now online
[11:06:02] webninja: ну как бы варианты тоже ограниченны. там есть все что ты можешь сделать с волной
[11:06:08] _lorien: ебуучий джанго-мейлер падает на отсылке одного письма где субжект в utf-8, а не уникоде и поэтому вообще ничо не отсылает
[11:06:10] webninja: а сделать ты можешь не так уж и много
[11:07:13] webninja: факинг джанго
[11:07:19] webninja: кстати читал недавно про турбо гиарс
[11:07:22] webninja: там алхимия
[11:07:27] webninja: в качестве орм
[11:07:48] zarg is now online
[11:08:36] webninja: я вот думаю перевести блог с вордпресса на байтфлоу
[11:08:55] serg.makar is now online
[11:08:56] webninja: шаблон придется перепиливать
[11:10:33] piranha: тут кстати один чувак проявил желание мейнтейнить байтфлоу
[11:10:38] alecs is now online
[11:10:40] piranha: перенесу тикеты на битбакет и ура
[11:10:46] Hanzo is now Audacious: Aranyanyara - The Overture by Entheogenic on Dialogue of the Speakers (6:47)
[11:10:49] webninja: будет доделывать?
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[11:12:40] piranha: хз, наверное, как минимум будет поддерживать в состоянии "работает на текущей джанге", думаю
[11:12:51] piranha: но у него такие планы, шо он меня пугает; джиру там насетапить :D
[11:12:52] webninja: а щаз не работает?
[11:13:14] webninja: надо рекламить проект
[11:13:21] webninja: шоб был спрос
[11:13:55] serg.makar is now online
[11:14:01] piranha: ну вот я на него всë скину и можешь к нему присоединяться, а я своë время щас в другое запыжевал и больше его не осталось :(
[11:14:19] rst is now online
[11:14:24] webninja: а что щаз делаешь?
[11:14:33] rst is now online
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[11:15:46] Hanzo is now Audacious: Aranyanyara - The Overture by Entheogenic on Dialogue of the Speakers (6:47)
[11:15:59] erraen is now online
[11:16:03] piranha: http://quickhg.com/
[11:16:03] _lorien: а я pybb дрочу уже сколько лет, закрыть жалко и делать желания нет особо
[11:16:15] _lorien: но иногда натыкаюсь на проекты, реализованные на pybb - приятно )

[11:16:21] webninja: надо рекламить больше )
[11:16:41] _lorien: эээ, зачем гавно рекламить то )

[11:16:44] piranha: я кстати тему запилил
[11:16:44] _lorien: он тупо в глубокой альфе
[11:16:57] piranha: https://quickhg.com/13/
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[11:17:26] bobry: /me одобряет
[11:17:28] webninja: прикольно )
[11:17:29] piranha: можно кликнуть на ссылку "source"
[11:17:31] _lorien: у меня тут щас незакоммиченный код лежит, я там поменя названия всех шаблонов, вьюшек и т.д. - вот сюрприз то для пользователй pybb будет :)
[11:17:36] worklez is now online
[11:17:39] piranha: короче если маркдаун, рест или текстайл - оно его рендерит
[11:17:45] piranha: можно будет вместо writeboard'а юзать
[11:17:57] piranha: _lorien: ггг, сурово
[11:18:31] webninja: я шортурл пишу )
[11:18:46] bobry: _lorien, смотри как бы тебя злобные юзеры не стали на улице отлавливать после такого сюрприза :)
[11:18:56] serg.makar is now online
[11:19:09] webninja: предоставь им свои услуги консультанта за $
[11:20:13] _lorien: bobry: это было бы клёво :)
[11:20:26] _lorien: типа признание :))
[11:20:29] bobry: хаха
[11:20:30] piranha: webninja: юзателям опенсорсных проектов такого уровня распространëнности оно не надо
[11:20:39] alecs is now online
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[11:20:45] worklez: генераторы, порожденные itertools.tee, безопасно вычитывать из разных потоков? itertoolsmodule.c с наскоку не добавляет понимания
[11:20:46] Hanzo is now Audacious: Aranyanyara - The Overture by Entheogenic on Dialogue of the Speakers (6:47)
[11:20:48] _lorien: кто-нить знает программера сайта cinemate.cc
[11:20:57] _lorien: интересно, на pybb форум или нет, у меня сильное чувство, что да
[11:20:58] erraen is now online
[11:21:00] piranha: webninja: а шортурл нафига? Это ж буквально день на написание и их дофига… или ты придумал чего-то приятного?
[11:21:03] _lorien: http://cinemate.cc/forum/
[11:21:08] webninja: придумал
[11:21:19] webninja: несложно но как бы я такого еще не видел
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[11:21:34] webninja: + мне нужно его для своих нужд использовать
[11:21:50] piranha: :)
[11:21:56] bobry: напиши pastebin, их тоже дофига
[11:22:06] bobry: составишь лору конкуренцию
[11:22:12] bobry: у пираныча вон свой тоже
[11:22:19] _lorien: о нет, кто-то покушается на мои 50 хостов в день? ))
[11:22:25] bobry: каждый пацан должен написать себе пастебин
[11:22:32] webninja: дампз твой?
[11:22:33] bobry: шобы пастить туда свой g-code
[11:22:36] piranha: _lorien: ого, у тебя 50 хостов в день?!
[11:22:42] bobry: :D
[11:22:46] bobry: piranha, у тебя меньше?
[11:22:48] piranha: bobry: так я уже второй написал, я ж тока шо показывал
[11:22:50] _lorien: ну не 50, 100 вроде
[11:22:55] webninja: где??
[11:22:59] piranha: quickhg.com
[11:23:05] bobry: piranha, ну это уже не пастебин, это по серьезней штука
[11:23:14] _lorien: http://www.liveinternet.ru/i/s/1MwRlS.png
[11:23:17] piranha: у меня 342 в месяц по гуглоаналитегу...
[11:23:23] bobry: не густо
[11:23:26] piranha: ога
[11:23:31] piranha: это на пиу
[11:23:39] _lorien: piranha: 100 это типа невзъебенно мало :)
[11:23:41] piranha: пиу-пиу, но я ж его не пиарил нигде
[11:23:41] webninja: 100 хостов
[11:23:44] webninja: бля
[11:23:50] piranha: _lorien: я знаю, но больше, чем у меня :)
[11:23:50] webninja: а че он не индексит у тебя? сделай коммнты
[11:23:54] piranha: впрочем у меня в блоге больше :Р
[11:23:56] webninja: !!!
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[11:24:04] piranha: webninja: га? ты кому о чëм?
[11:24:09] _lorien: +1
[11:24:21] webninja: ну как стэковерфлоу
[11:24:24] _lorien: +1 к кому о чём )
[11:24:27] webninja: видели?
[11:24:30] webninja: комменты + код
[11:24:42] piranha: bobry: ну да, и квикхг я собираюсь еще чуток допилить (в плане работы с юзерами и выделения, как на пиу) и попиарить :)
[11:25:00] piranha: на канале вон хг уже пару чуваков выразили интерес =)
[11:25:09] bobry: фичи принимать бушь?
[11:25:13] _lorien: http://www.liveinternet.ru/i/s/1NiV_i.png вот тут поинтересеней график
[11:25:18] bobry: точнее фичреквесты
[11:25:27] webninja: ого ебать
[11:25:31] webninja: вешай порнобаннеры
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[11:25:41] piranha: bobry: ну да, я понял; принимать буду, а имплементить буду ли - хз :)) зависит от
[11:25:42] _lorien: да висят уже порнотизеры
[11:25:44] webninja: вот это уже жир
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[11:25:51] piranha: _lorien: это што?
[11:25:54] _lorien: webninja: но денег не особо много там
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[11:26:03] webninja: ру проект?
[11:26:04] _lorien: http://torrent-trackers.ru
[11:26:07] piranha: гы
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[11:26:15] _lorien: но это не трекер
[11:26:19] _lorien: рейтинг трекеров
[11:26:35] piranha: пока в планах: выделение строк, совместное редактирование одной пасты, закрытие по паролю, форк и удаление. Это вроде бы и всë.
[11:26:46] piranha: _lorien: да, я его видел, ты ж уже показывал
[11:26:49] bobry: да вроде бы хватит
[11:26:56] webninja: о и маркетгрид
[11:27:02] bobry: забавно — поменял лексер 100% diff :)
[11:27:03] webninja: маркетгрид ченить дает?
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[11:27:19] _lorien: piranha: ну я вебнинзе показал )
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[11:27:27] _lorien: короче с сайта баков 10 в день щас капает
[11:27:28] piranha: а, угу :)
[11:27:39] piranha: bobry: хм, там ренейм файла происходит
[11:27:40] webninja: блин с 10к очень мало можно больше
[11:27:47] piranha: но я думаю, что не буду с этим ничего делать, какая пох разница
[11:27:49] webninja: это по баксу с 1000
[11:27:52] _lorien: webninja: а чего посоветуешь?
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[11:29:11] webninja: да много можно. проще на том же гоуфаке написать типа есть сайт 10к фэйли развлекательных тематик/кино. продам рекламу или поставлю ваши баннеры. наверняка найдутся те кому интересно будет.
[11:29:38] webninja: Фильмы через торрент
[11:29:43] _lorien: webninja: ага, ладно, подумаем, а урлы палят обычно в таких объявах?
[11:29:45] webninja: вот этот блок можно смело менять
[11:29:49] webninja: не не палят
[11:30:03] webninja: напиши стукайте в аську. и там по общению уже
[11:30:04] _lorien: в смысле менять?

[11:30:16] _lorien: это там не реклама, это ссылки внутренние
[11:30:23] webninja: ну поставить рекламный блок. та область по статистике лучше всего прокликивается
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[11:30:35] _lorien: чувак хочет трафик по фильмам собирать, мы недавно только фичу с фильмами запустили
[11:30:36] webninja: кстати если аналитику поставить можно посмотреть
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[11:30:40] _lorien: а, понял
[11:30:47] Hanzo is now Audacious: Aranyanyara - The Overture by Entheogenic on Dialogue of the Speakers (6:47)
[11:30:52] webninja: где hot зоны
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[11:31:31] piranha: гг, ко мне пришла известность
[11:31:48] piranha: на 4 месте по приходам на мой сайт с поисковиков запрос "alexander solovyov"
[11:31:49] piranha: :D
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[11:32:45] webninja: Управление проектами в Емаксе
[11:32:47] webninja: о
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[11:32:49] webninja: !
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[11:34:08] _lorien: http://www.google.ru/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=grigoriy+petukhov у меня чётко топ оккупирован :)
[11:34:40] piranha: сравни своë имя с моим
[11:34:55] piranha: вот был бы ты сергеем ивановым, тогда б мы с тобой поговорили :)))
[11:35:03] _lorien: \m/
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[11:35:36] _lorien: о, по запросу lorien тоже в десятке есть :)
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[11:35:40] _lorien: раньше вроде не было
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[11:36:19] _lorien: яндекс сволочь не показывает lorien.name в десятке, только веб-мозги :(
[11:36:31] _lorien: а они уже не мои даже (
[11:36:40] piranha: Lórien or Lorien can refer to: In J. R. R. Tolkien's legendarium: Lothlórien, a forest realm in Middle-earth
[11:36:50] webninja: яндекс дурак
[11:36:52] webninja: потому что
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[11:36:57] piranha: я вот думаю, что если я домен сменю, я ж насру всем в фидридеры, да?
[11:37:06] piranha: надо это тогда делать с написанием какой-то статьи %)))
[11:37:10] webninja: лориен у тебя хостинг в ру зоне?
[11:37:15] worklez: ответ на мой вопрос: не безопасно, вылетает ValueError с generator already executing
[11:37:21] _lorien: piranha: зависит от того, как у тебя GUID генерируется для статей
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[11:37:36] _lorien: webninja: нет, я на gandi.net во франции
[11:37:43] webninja: во!
[11:37:46] _lorien: но думаю свалить на линоду (в лондоне)
[11:37:52] webninja: /me поднимает палец вверх
[11:37:58] _lorien: ибо на ганди нет 500 рам стоит 32 бака, а на линоде 20 баков
[11:38:15] piranha: как бы не генерился, смотри: http://feeds.feedburner.com/AmazonByteflow?format=xml
<link href="http://piranha.org.ua/ <view-source:http://piranha.org.ua/>" rel="alternate" />

[11:38:20] piranha: это ж всë поломает, разве нет?
[11:38:34] webninja: говорят яндекс учитывает пинги и геолокейшн. т.е. если сайт не в ру зоне и не на территории россии значит он не получает бонус или пенальти
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[11:39:13] _lorien: <entry>
<id>/blog/2010/03/14/locations/</id>
вроде вот этот guid
[11:39:14] webninja: а ну и видимо еще доменная зона роляет
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[11:39:25] piranha: _lorien: да, но мне казалось, что линк хреф тоже влияет...
[11:39:29] piranha: ну если не, то зашибись, конечно
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[11:40:27] _lorien: Вчера посмотрел "человеческая многоножка" :)
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[11:42:33] piranha: YAML - это ResT в языках разметки...
[11:42:59] piranha: кто-нить его шарит?
[11:43:46] piranha: а, уже разобрался
[11:43:53] огыешсук: а чего там шарить? Это язык разметки конфигов. Простой.
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[11:45:00] piranha: нихера себе простой
[11:45:06] piranha: something: |
ololo
[11:45:15] piranha: зачем тут |? Ну я уже раздуплился, конечно, но всë равно
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[11:45:45] piranha: csv простой, json еще туда-сюда, но ямл простой как человеческая многоножка
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[11:46:19] InappropriateAnalogy: :)
[11:46:29] InappropriateAnalogy: эх, сраный адиум не выкупает, что я сменил ник :(
[11:46:34] огыешсук: что за многоножку вы тут всё поминаете?
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[11:46:40] InappropriateAnalogy: не знаю, я не виноват
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[11:51:55] xa4a: человек-многоножка как-то на 2/3 закончился(
[11:52:08] xa4a: грибы кончилась
[11:52:13] xa4a: кончились
[11:52:22] xa4a: и последняя треть - скучная
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[11:52:51] xa4a: !g человек многоножка site:youtube.com
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[11:53:45] xa4a: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk8ty9AfkTE вощем
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[11:54:11] xa4a: огыешсук: ^
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[12:00:08] огыешсук: бред какой
[12:00:47] Hanzo is now Audacious: Aranyanyara - The Overture by Entheogenic on Dialogue of the Speakers (6:47)
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[12:02:33] Hanzo is now Audacious: Aranyanyara - The Overture by Entheogenic on Dialogue of the Speakers (6:47)
[12:03:45] webninja: да
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[12:04:03] webninja: надо бы скайлан позырить
[12:05:01] webninja: сборы в США$20 950 000 <http://www.kinopoisk.ru/level/85/film/493223/>
[12:05:07] kwis is now away
[12:05:08] webninja: сборы в России$9 201 237 <http://www.kinopoisk.ru/level/85/film/493223/type/rus/>
[12:05:12] webninja: чето я не пойму
[12:05:19] webninja: у нас население меньше
[12:05:22] webninja: и беднее
[12:05:30] webninja: а сборы всего в 2а раза меньше
[12:05:36] webninja: парадокс
[12:05:41] deepwalker: чейта pip то тупой
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[12:05:56] erraen is now online
[12:06:26] deepwalker: или как? не понимаю - почему -r req.txt он каждый раз с самого начала ставит?
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[12:06:46] огыешсук: imdb 4.5, а всё что ниже 6 нет смысла
[12:06:47] deepwalker: если уже стоит конкретная версия пакета, зачем его опять качать и ставить?
[12:06:48] kwis is now online
[12:06:51] _lorien: я скай не смотрел и судя по отзывам не оч охото
[12:07:07] deepwalker: что за скай?
[12:07:16] _lorien: скайлинк
[12:07:21] _lorien: ой, скайлайн
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[12:08:29] Hanzo is now Audacious: Aranyanyara - The Overture by Entheogenic on Dialogue of the Speakers (6:47)
[12:08:31] _lorien: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDJfue-Aanw ну типа вот
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[12:09:17] _lorien: гавнотрейлер какой-то
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[12:18:28] xa4a: скайлайн говно
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[12:27:17] xa4a: !enru bluetooth token
[12:27:23] xa4a: !trans bluetooth token
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[12:28:24] xa4a: как это по-русски называется?
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[12:44:41] xa4a: !trans tamper
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[12:52:03] kwis: Здравствуйте товарищи, прошу помощи с формсетами
[12:52:31] kwis: Exception Type: ValidationError
Exception Value: [u'ManagementForm data is missing or has been tampered with']
делаю все по примеру
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[12:55:01] kwis: почему dpaste.com неработает????
[12:55:50] Hanzo is now Audacious: Aranyanyara - The Overture by Entheogenic on Dialogue of the Speakers (6:47)
[12:56:14] kwis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/540221/ какбы вот код
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[13:05:50] xa4a: ты задал только один вопрос, и то про dpaste
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[13:06:01] xa4a: я не знаю, почему dpaste не работает
[13:06:02] tilarids is now online
[13:06:20] xa4a: у тебя осталось два вопроса на сегодня
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[13:15:05] ormaturi: )
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[13:28:13] kwis: xa4a, я показал код, который не работает, показал ошибку, прошу подсказать где я ошибаюсь
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[13:32:57] webninja: никто руби не знает?
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[13:41:22] piranha: kwis: зачитай доки джанги про формсеты, поищи там management form
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[13:42:21] kwis: piranha, читал, нифига не вьехал
[13:42:57] piranha: {{ form.management_form }} в темплейте выведи
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[13:49:23] kwis: piranha, спасибо, действительно тупонул...
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[14:00:59] piranha: bobry: этот ez-js-django-tmpl-compiler (как можно было так назвать?!) можно юзать разве шо как идею для развития
[14:01:07] piranha: одно то, что его функция принимает позиционные аргументы, уже смешно
[14:01:12] Hanzo is now Audacious: Aranyanyara - The Overture by Entheogenic on Dialogue of the Speakers (6:47)
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[14:04:31] webninja: позиционные аргументы?
[14:04:40] webninja: (a, b, c) так чтоль?
[14:05:40] piranha: да
[14:05:49] piranha: контекст должен быть словарëм, а не списком
[14:05:52] Hanzo is now Audacious: Aranyanyara - The Overture by Entheogenic on Dialogue of the Speakers (6:47)
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[14:39:29] webninja: типа (key="", value1=32, value2="64fd")?
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[14:44:23] piranha: {key: ""}
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[15:01:56] webninja: как лучше редирект 404 замутить?
[15:02:07] webninja: в urls.py прописывать
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[15:02:16] webninja: или через return HttpResponseRedirect() ?
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[15:03:17] kwis: еще один вопрос и на сегодня все
[15:03:24] kwis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/540263/ почему это не работает???
[15:03:26] nmk is now online
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[15:03:48] kwis: говорит:
Exception Type: ValueError
Exception Value: 'Account' instance needs to have a primary key value before a many-to-many relationship can be used.
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[15:04:32] nmk: а для avl деревьев лучше pyavl ничего нету? :)
[15:05:10] kwis: все товарищи
[15:05:13] kwis: вопрос снимаю
[15:05:15] kwis: поспешил
[15:05:54] Hanzo is now Audacious: Aranyanyara - The Overture by Entheogenic on Dialogue of the Speakers (6:47)
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[15:07:36] _lorien: блин, на гитхабе какой-то попсовый эффект, когда по файлам лазишь в репе, то содержимое отрывает с наездом слева
[15:07:55] nmk: _lorien: да, бесяче
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[15:21:19] _lorien: Хм, я вот думаю, то нормально, шо я хочу объект, у котого аттрибуты бы вели себя как числа ну типа sum = 4 + foo.atrr_name, но при случае мона было бы делать вещи типа print foo.attr_name.label
[15:21:32] _lorien: Это я Enum класс разрабатываю
[15:21:38] _lorien: для юзанья в джанге
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[15:47:41] param0n: блин в wx grid редактор -- wx.grid.GridCellFloatEditor(1,2) ставит мне в таблице разделителем запятую, а функция float() разделителем считает точку :(
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[15:58:34] piranha: param0n: может у ячеек есть метод "вернуть флоат из локали" или шото типа того?
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[15:58:37] piranha: запятую-то он ставит из-за локали
[15:59:04] param0n: именно, потому что в англоязычных странах разделитель -- точка.
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[16:06:47] param0n: а самому интерпритатору можно локаль указать? Может тогда float() проглотит запятую?
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[16:07:09] mishok13: http://docs.python.org/library/locale
[16:07:12] mishok13: locale.setlocale
[16:08:11] param0n: спасибо
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[16:11:19] огыешсук: грёбаный memcache считает пробел за control character
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[16:13:06] param0n: не, не глотает (
[16:13:34] piranha: огыешсук: urlencode? :)
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[16:14:51] mishok13: .encode('hex')
[16:14:56] mishok13: и всё тут
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[16:17:48] огыешсук: с hex есть другая опасность -- memcache не умеет ключи больше 255 символов
[16:18:21] mishok13: ключи больше 255 символов не нужны! :)
[16:18:32] mishok13: формально, ты сам себя ограничишь до 127 символов в ключе
[16:18:41] mishok13: но это же не так страшно, на самом деле
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[16:19:07] mishok13: можно предварительно сжать строку с помощью bz2, а потом уже .encode('hex')
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[16:20:44] param0n: блин, как-то не правильно наверно .replace() пользовать в таком случае?
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[16:22:00] mishok13: в твоём, с локалями?
[16:22:06] mishok13: скорее всего неправильно
[16:22:21] mishok13: но с другой стороны, если оно будет работать, то не вижу проблемы
[16:23:49] огыешсук: piranha: скорее urllib.quote
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[16:25:07] огыешсук: piranha: но я боюсь % это тоже control character
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[16:25:15] param0n: mishok13, работает, но...
[16:25:16] piranha: :)))
[16:25:23] огыешсук: memcache -- редиска!
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[16:28:40] piranha: cassandra - гамадрил
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[16:35:56] mishok13: скорее питекантроп
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[17:32:49] mishok13: пацаны, есть пустой репозиторий гитовский
[17:33:00] mishok13: есть артефакт в виде репозитория в свна
[17:33:06] mishok13: как правильно смигрировать?
[17:33:27] piranha: думаю, шо git-fastimport
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[17:35:21] mishok13: ну это какие-то печеньки прям
[17:35:31] mishok13: слишком низкоуровнево, по ходу
[17:35:44] nmk: фраза "Реальное преимущество setuptools не в том, что он делает то же самое, что и distutils -- даже несмотря на то, что этот модуль расширяет возможности distutils и упрощает организацию сценария setup.py." поломала мне мозг немного
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[17:36:56] mishok13: так а в чем преимущество то?
[17:36:59] mishok13: реальное?
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[17:37:31] nmk: да пофиг, но начинать фразу с приемущество не в том, что оно делает тоже самое это что-то
[17:38:03] piranha: mishok13: шо именно слишком низкоуровнево?
[17:38:09] _lorien: setuptools - это ж easy_install? он сам чо надо качает
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[17:38:29] mishok13: piranha, хотелось бы git-magic-convert-from-subversion-to-empty-git-repo
[17:38:37] mishok13: но походу git svn достаточно
[17:39:13] mishok13: setuptools это не только easy_install, а еще и три-четыре киллограма высококачественного жира
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[17:39:42] deepwalker: шо за жир?
[17:39:58] deepwalker: мне лучше расскажите, почему pip такой тупой
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[20:20:49] Magister Yoda: кто какую среду юзает для разработки?
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[20:21:53] Typhon: emacs или vim тут
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[20:25:04] Magister Yoda: ша глянем. спс
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[20:31:46] nott: /me представил, как через 2 года возвращается Magister Yoda со словами "посмотрел emacs, спасибо за наводку"
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[20:33:08] nott: так себя не ведут!
[20:33:28] Magister Yoda: как? как ты?
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[21:25:34] xa4a: Magister Yoda: если ты вернёшься, то ты невоспитанный и/или хам. Держи себя в руках, иначе бан будет
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[21:26:57] Typhon: !g Хам Библия вики
[21:27:32] xa4a: Родился за 100 лет до Всемирного Потопа, от которого он вместе с женой, отцом и братьями спасся в ковчеге <http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%87%D0%B5%D0%B3>
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[21:28:06] Typhon: там дальше круче
[21:28:16] Typhon: "Хам повел себя постыдным образом во время опьянения своего отца Ноя. Во-первых, он увидел и рассказал братьям про наготу отца своего (Быт.9:22), а во-вторых, он нечто "сделал над ним" (Быт.9:24). "
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[21:30:42] xa4a: сколько-сколько отцу было к моменту потопа?
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[21:37:29] piranha: лет двести
[21:37:36] piranha: xa4a: они ж там чем раньше, тем дольше жили
[21:37:50] piranha: подсчитали, что по библии Авраам прожил вроде бы около тысячи лет, что ли
[21:37:53] Typhon: пока паспортов не было
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[21:38:23] piranha: не, типа люди не так много грешили и были праведные, вот и жили долго
[21:38:37] Typhon: содом и гоморра, например
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[21:39:13] piranha: ну это не времена авраама
[21:39:26] piranha: опять же, щас пидарасов стока, шо тыщу содом заселить можно
[21:39:40] Typhon: тайланд же, не? %)
[21:40:08] piranha: тайланд?
[21:41:17] tilarids: там Мафусалу было под 1000
[21:41:19] tilarids: Ною около 600
[21:41:31] tilarids: Аврааму в районе 200, если мне не изменяет память
[21:41:37] огыешсук: один ты, жалкий неудачник
[21:42:06] tilarids: а самый прикол в том, что Мафусал к моменту потопа был еще жив и по Библии помер после потопа. При этом в ковчеге его не было
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[21:43:07] piranha: бггг
[21:43:18] piranha: ну это видать их локальный экстремал-супермен был
[21:43:30] piranha: скуба-дайвингом мож занимался
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[21:43:55] Typhon: piranha, в смысле уже заселили пидарасами ^_^
[21:44:53] tilarids: да просто не заметил чувак потопа. Так и представляю такого себе библейского профессора Фарнсворта, который просидел весь потоп в кресле-качалке
[21:45:22] piranha: :)
[21:45:40] piranha: ну или пока все плавали, он тусовался в тибете
[21:45:52] piranha: там вряд ли потоп был
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[21:46:11] piranha: он прожил 969 лет. Старейший человек, чей возраст указан в Библии.
[21:46:21] piranha: а, мафусаил
[21:46:25] piranha: так как-то знакомее имя
[21:46:39] piranha: отцом Ламеха, которого зачал в 187 лет.
[21:46:52] piranha: терпеливый же чувак был, учитывая, что презервативов вроде не было
[21:46:53] tilarids: Мафусаил - искаженное, АФАИК
[21:47:09] tilarids: piranha, а в Библии женщины не указаны
[21:47:17] tilarids: в смысле, у него и дочерей могло быть полно
[21:47:24] piranha: . Смерть Мафусаила наступила перед самым Потопом (Быт.6:27; 7:6), на 600-м году жизни Ноя. Согласно Агаде, Потоп был отсрочен на семь дней ради недельного траура по Мафусаилу
[21:47:38] piranha: Метушелах не искажëнное
[21:47:42] tilarids: если верить географическим выкладкам Библии, то весь мир укладывался в область 200 на 400 км. Так что в Тибет можно было не рулить, немного отошел - и нет потопа
[21:47:46] piranha: так шо Мафусал/Мафусаил - мелочи
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[21:48:05] piranha: ну, финикия, египет и междуречье
[21:48:07] огыешсук: я не понял, из за чего был траур?
[21:48:08] piranha: весь тогдашний мир
[21:48:15] piranha: из-за смерти Мафусаила
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[21:48:28] piranha: ну прикинь, самый старый чувак в мире умер
[21:48:31] огыешсук: а разве в ихней парадигме смерть это не есть просто лифт на верхний этаж?
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[21:48:47] огыешсук: Ну, пошел старый чувак на повышение. И?
[21:49:15] piranha: ну так это такой праздничный траур
[21:49:18] огыешсук: Или он им GET обломал?
[21:50:14] огыешсук: 31 лет всего оставалось
[21:50:21] Typhon: "ритуальная ебля", по классикам
[21:50:22] piranha: :)))
[21:50:31] Typhon: кккккомбобрекер
[21:51:22] Typhon: "Ушло в позорное прошлое,как мамонты и ритуальная ебля коров" гугл неплохие результаты выдал по запросу
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[22:31:50] deepwalker: нашли чего читать, этой книжке тыщи лет, не модно
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[22:33:54] deepwalker: да да, соверменная культура рулит
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[22:44:49] piranha: http://blog.phusion.nl/2010/12/06/efficient-substring-searching/
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[22:56:14] deepwalker: я про греп читал, но не думал, что в языках делают наивную реализацию
[22:56:32] deepwalker: зачем ее там делать если есть эффективная??
[22:56:40] piranha: хз
[22:56:42] piranha: в питоне она ок
[22:56:46] piranha: но всего 4 года как ):
[22:56:47] piranha: :)
[22:56:52] piranha: http://effbot.org/zone/stringlib.htm
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[23:12:58] cutwater: товарищи, а wsgi для python 3 уже есть в каком-нибудь виде?
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[23:13:17] cutwater: собственно насколько python 3 можно использовать в вебе
[23:13:46] deepwalker: есть
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[23:13:51] deepwalker: целых два
[23:14:00] deepwalker: кстати уже один отмер, или еще нет?
[23:14:16] deepwalker: а вот использовать я думаю пока не выйдет
[23:15:10] cutwater: эх... что ж так все печально
[23:15:30] cutwater: 2.8 ведь уже не будет. а к 3ке все никак не перейдут
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[23:17:16] Typhon: http://www.quora.com/Is-it-wise-to-do-web-development-with-Python-3-even-though-WSGI-for-Python-3-3-1-hasnt-been-finalized-yet
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[23:18:28] deepwalker: да смысл его делать с пи3?
[23:18:40] deepwalker: вот чего там такого уж прям необходимого
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[23:19:44] deepwalker: хм, хотя конечно было бы неплохо
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