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[00:05:56] bobry: *facepalm* уже час как идиот ищу как бы законвертить pdf в doc
[00:06:14] bobry: кто нибудь упражнялся?
[00:07:17] xa4a: эгм
[00:07:20] xa4a: текст выдрать?
[00:07:26] xa4a: или принтскрин?
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[00:11:58] bobry: все выдрать в док
[00:12:06] bobry: у меня еть tex скомпиленый в pdf
[00:12:08] deepwalker: finereader
[00:12:17] bobry: препод увы не осилил открытие pdf'a
[00:12:24] deepwalker: ээм
[00:12:26] bobry: и "рекомендует" мне заюзать msword
[00:12:30] deepwalker: это не его проблемы?
[00:12:38] bobry: ну зачет то мне нужен :)
[00:12:45] bobry: тут не все так однозначно
[00:12:53] deepwalker: ладно ладно : )
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[00:13:17] deepwalker: преподы они такие, если бы у них не было странностей, они бы не пошли в преподы
[00:13:44] deepwalker: а tex у тебя есть?
[00:13:46] Typhon: а теховский исходник есть?
[00:13:49] bobry: лол, ну наверное. этот дядька издал книжек больше чем у меня пальцев на всех конечностях
[00:13:49] deepwalker: latex?
[00:13:50] bobry: есть
[00:13:57] bobry: да
[00:14:00] deepwalker: ну дык сходи в блог виренса
[00:14:02] bobry: и все книжки он фигачил в doc'e ...
[00:14:05] deepwalker: virens, он писал
[00:14:07] Typhon: http://www.tug.org/utilities/texconv/textopc.html#latex2rtf
[00:14:22] deepwalker: количество книжек не коррелирует с качеством
[00:14:23] Typhon: rtf ок уже, его потом опенофисом откроешь и в доке сохранишь
[00:14:24] bobry: Typhon, неале оно, фейлится на моем исходнике
[00:14:30] Typhon: :(
[00:14:43] bobry: да, и еще оно не умеет extarticle
[00:14:52] bobry: а article не разрешает размер шрифта 14
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[00:16:56] bobry: думаю отправлю ка я ему ссылку на гуглодокс
[00:17:09] Typhon: http://tug.org/applications/tex4ht/mn-commands.html
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[07:57:58] lilfox: Тривиальные вопросы, чо =(
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[07:59:06] Tarvitz: alecs: ты redagent'а тут не видал?
[07:59:22] alecs: :) нет , не видал
[07:59:30] Tarvitz: Вооообще?
[07:59:38] Tarvitz: /me пинанул Sevenov
[07:59:45] Tarvitz: я тя кстати нинавижу, вот
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[08:12:41] bobry: да11
[08:12:42] bobry: :)
[08:12:50] bobry: надо бы поспать пару часиков
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[08:14:54] _lorien: я чё-то заснуть не мог, т.к. был голоден, а жрать было нечего
[08:15:08] _lorien: пришлось два пакета риса сварить, пожрать, тока тогда в 7 утра заснул :)
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[10:13:19] gf: _lorien вас, богатых, не понять.. по два пакета риса за раз съедаете..
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[10:14:20] piranha: 2 пакета риса - это можно лопнуть же
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[10:18:36] mishok13: да ладно
[10:18:39] gf: ну да.. можно лопнуть.. а можно и обосраться..
[10:18:47] mishok13: не так-то и много
[10:19:04] mishok13: с утра поел и в путь-дорогу
[10:19:26] tilarids: 200г риса обычно более чем достаточно
[10:20:54] gf: я бы 200г. риса предпочел бы только 100гр.
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[10:21:11] piranha: шо такое пакет, интересно?
[10:21:16] gf: + пару котлеток, тарелку супа, пару компотов.. :)
[10:21:17] piranha: мож у него чайные пакетики такие с рисом
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[10:21:45] piranha: компот - это как законченный продукт? Типа, вот сварили 6 литров компота - пару компотов?
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[10:22:02] piranha: ну да, кто кило рисо, кто 10 литров компота, я понимаю
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[10:24:24] tilarids: gf, так, не меняем условие задачи, не нужно привносить котлетки
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[10:27:50] gf: tilarids а как без мяса то?
[10:28:03] gf: ну давай хоть окорочка.. а?
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[10:33:43] огыешсук: /me уже не помнит когда последний раз был голоден
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[10:40:07] deepwalker: я бы предпочел мяса, а рис и суши отдам врагу, пусть давится
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[10:45:54] piranha: огыешсук: да ты зомби :)
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[10:48:43] piranha: хм, тырить цсс с гитхаба проще, чем пытаться понять, как сделать что-то похожее по всяким докам
[10:48:57] piranha: капитан очевидность с вами ;-)
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[10:51:40] огыешсук: piranha: наверное просто двигаюсь мало, вот энергия толком и не расходуется; впрочем, после спортзала я тоже голода не чувствую, максимум жажду, да и то далеко не каждый раз
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[10:52:39] piranha: огыешсук: хез, я редко хаваю, пока не захочу, вот и всë
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[10:54:34] огыешсук: piranha: не, если "пока не захочу", то я раз или два только в день есть буду, а рекомендуется кушать хотя бы раза 3 а лучше 3+2 (2 раза перекусить), чтобы живот потом беспокоить не начал
[10:55:11] огыешсук: причём в одно и то же время рекомендуют поедать, что сложно, я иногда спокойно в 8-9 утра встаю, а в другой день (сегодня, например) только в 11
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[10:58:28] piranha: :)
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[11:06:46] deepwalker: piranha, не нашел хороший аналог flatland?
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[11:07:07] deepwalker: ну чтобы с удобством валидировать json сообщения
[11:07:22] deepwalker: и разибрать их попроще
[11:07:48] piranha: решил, что как только дойдут руки, просто приделаю к wtforms'ам поддержку
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[11:18:24] _lorien: да не, пакет 65г, я два съел :) ну когда он сварится, то, видимо, больше весит, чем 65г
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[11:19:11] _lorien: а щас ходил в столовую и обожрался на 4бака
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[11:20:16] _lorien: http://porno100.ru/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/russia-moskva-bdsm-ru.jpg :D
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[11:24:04] mishok13: wtf
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[11:39:49] deepwalker: piranha, решил flatland прикрутить к wtf?
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[11:55:14] gf: http://pastebin.com/zkCVjCeK
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[11:56:05] gf: как мне корректно импортировать из первого приложения во второе, если я уже импортировал из второго в первое..?
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[11:57:22] огыешсук: создать третье?
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[11:58:11] deepwalker: gf, если у тебя есть циркулярки, значит ты что-то делаешь не так
[11:58:33] deepwalker: хотя армина это конечно не остановило : )
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[12:00:12] gf: ок, тогда как мне можно из второго пр. получить доступ к классам первого пр., если я уже импортировал классы второго пр. в первое пр.
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[12:01:12] _lorien: gf импортируй внутри методов, методы исполнятся только в момент их вызова
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[12:08:31] gf: _lorien: ага, так заработало.. но чую, что так делать нельзя.. :)
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[12:08:43] gf: ибо потом ваще жопа будет..
[12:08:46] _lorien: gf, можно
[12:08:51] _lorien: я разрешаю
[12:08:58] gf: тогда это не для моего сознания.. :)
[12:09:01] gf: гг
[12:09:11] gf: спасибо! добрый человек!
[12:09:24] _lorien: рад помочь :D
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[12:12:28] _lorien: можно импортировать даже и корневом namespace модуля, просто надо понимать, что на момент импорта какой-то хрени из другого модуля, она там уже должна быть, не обязательно, чтобы тот модуль до конца пропарсился, но хрень должна быть там :)
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[12:14:00] _lorien: A: foo = 4; from B import bar
B: from A import foo; bar = foo + 1
будет работать
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[12:15:15] gf: а то.. но потом учитывать эти "циркулярки" будет сложно..
[12:15:59] _lorien: ну да, а из методов мне кажется самое то :)
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[12:24:08] deepwalker: _lorien, чего плохому учишь?
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[12:32:31] _lorien: deepwalker: научи хорошему
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[12:33:06] deepwalker: по хорошему, это понять откуда вылез циркуляр, и в 99% он не нужен
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[12:35:42] _lorien: ну так - вперёд, понимайте, я ж не против, проси у автора модели или мотивируй его, шобы он решал проблему по другому
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[12:36:26] _lorien: я помогаю как могу, если кто-то может помочь лучше - милости просим :)
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[12:41:02] slav0nic: ни у кого часом ноута на базе amd turion II нет?
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[12:42:14] xa4a: гит нелюбовь: git diff src/utils/ --ignore-space-at-eol
fatal: bad flag '--ignore-space-at-eol' used after filename
[12:42:30] xa4a: ну обнаружили ошибку, определили, поняли, чего я хотел. нет чтобы исправить и выдать результат :'(
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[12:44:27] deepwalker: _lorien, у него ж потом косяки полезть могут
[12:44:32] deepwalker: и тебе будет стыдно
[12:44:39] deepwalker: наверное
[12:44:46] deepwalker: маловероятно, но вдруг
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[12:47:41] _lorien: deepwalker: я уже понял, что тебе похуй на проблему чувака :)
[12:47:55] _lorien: потому что бы ты писал ему, а не мне, если было б не похуй :)
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[12:48:01] gf: deepwalker спасибо за заботу.. :)
[12:48:42] deepwalker: _lorien, в его проблеме надо разбираться, а с тобой можно просто пословоблудить ;-)
[12:48:48] gf: _lorien "вредные советы" вредны только "....", а я не из таких.. :)
[12:49:04] deepwalker: gf, а, ну ок, рад
[12:49:09] gf: вопщем я избавился от зацикливания изменением логики.. :)
[12:49:18] deepwalker: от, наш человек
[12:49:40] deepwalker: кстати у армина по сути тоже нет большой проблемы с избавлением от цикла
[12:49:57] deepwalker: во flask если что
[12:50:13] gf: deepwalker мне казалось, что я однозначно дал этол понять: gf ( 15:15:48 ): а то.. но потом учитывать эти "циркулярки" будет сложно..
[12:50:52] gf: т.е. "мины видно, курс сменил"
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[12:53:26] _lorien: http://www.gorod55.ru/auto/autoad/view/?id=1756373 пойду завтра смотреть этого динозавра :)
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[13:11:21] _lorien: http://www.gorod55.ru/news/article/show/?rubric=3&id=3507
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[13:40:43] denger_work: я думаю, что-то не то
[13:40:49] denger_work: с утра забыл в чат зайти
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[14:30:16] wiz: какие есть нормальные либы для джаного кэшей и сессий в редисе?
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[14:47:23] slav0nic: django-redis-sessions )
[14:47:40] slav0nic: а допилить ненормальные не? там вроде всё просто
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[14:47:48] kth: привет, как можно из файла получить все его функции и классы. что-то вроде dir(module) только module это будет путь к файлу?
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[14:51:15] tilarids: сделать import, then dir
[14:51:40] kth: а как сделать импорт если есть только путь к файлу, причем его нету в path
[14:52:43] kth: добавлять все в path не вариант
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[14:53:53] kth: о, спасибо, вроде оно
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[15:04:35] xa4a: exec(read(..))
[15:04:46] xa4a: и оно в словарь свали его неймспейс
[15:04:53] xa4a: в какой-то из аргументов
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[15:26:04] wiz: господа тролли, чем/как лучше всего клаву от жира оттереть?..
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[15:28:26] dicos: нашатырным спиртом
[15:28:48] mishok13: тупо спиртом
[15:29:39] nmk: а есть что-то быстрее чем deepcopy для копирования dictов, внутри которых есть другие дикты?
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[15:32:37] nmk: инкто не знает? :P
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[15:33:07] nmk: плохо :)
[15:33:31] mishok13: интересная задача, конечно
[15:33:45] mishok13: можешь попробовать pickle'ом
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[15:34:10] nmk: да я думаю написать рекурсивную функцию. у меня ж из типов могут быть только dict, list, unicode и int. всяко будет быстрее чем deepcopy
[15:34:27] nmk: лучше уж тогда simplejson :)
[15:34:57] mishok13: http://dumpz.org/25650/
[15:35:17] mishok13: пикель быстрый же
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[15:35:46] nmk: ээ. у тебя какой-то неправильный simplejson :)
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[15:36:21] mishok13: да, был неправильный
[15:36:41] mishok13: In [3]: %timeit jloads(jdumps(d))
10000 loops, best of 3: 41.2 us per loop

[15:36:44] mishok13: это с правильным
[15:36:48] mishok13: всё равно пикель быстрее
[15:36:54] nmk: угу. спс.
[15:36:59] mishok13: но желательно всё замерить
[15:37:11] mishok13: самостоятельно написанная функция еще может и медленнее работать
[15:37:25] nmk: у меня объект много здоровее просто, щас на нем замерю пикл и simplejson.
[15:37:32] nmk: медленнее чем deepcopy? :) врядли.
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[15:38:40] nmk: 0.0159850120544
0.0266699790955

на моих объектах, первое simplejson, второе cPickle
[15:38:53] mishok13: это ты один обьект взял?
[15:39:01] mishok13: или timeit прогнал по всем?
[15:39:24] nmk: не очень понял. это один дикт, внутри которого много диктов. объект один и тотже. timeit прогнал один раз.
[15:39:37] nmk: т.е.
[15:39:40] nmk: print Timer("simplejson.loads(simplejson.dumps(d1))", "from copy import deepcopy; from __main__ import d1; import simplejson").timeit(number=1)
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[15:41:35] nmk: да, simplejson у меня стабильно быстрее cPickle и в 2-3 раза быстрее чем deepcopy. спасибо.
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[15:48:17] nmk: mishok13: bson еще быстрее. но с ним аккуратно надо :)
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[15:48:40] mishok13: ну и отличненько
[15:49:07] mishok13: теперь оставь коммент в коде с обьяснением почему именно симпльжсон
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[15:49:59] nmk: ты мне конечно не поверишь, но я всегда так делаю. чисто для себя. :)
[15:51:21] mishok13: почему, поверю
[15:51:24] mishok13: я верю в людей
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[16:37:25] piranha: nmk: пикл в два раза быстрее для меня...
[16:37:42] nmk: размер объекта? у меня 180кб джсона
[16:37:59] nmk: и simplejson со спидапсами?
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[16:38:04] piranha: а, ок, у меня маленький убогий объектик
[16:38:08] piranha: наверное, я его просто пипом поставил только что
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[16:38:17] piranha: потому что json из питон 2.6 очень медленный
[16:38:25] nmk: да. звери они.
[16:38:32] nmk: могу мой объект для тестов дать
[16:38:43] piranha: в 2,5 раза медленнее, чем симплжсон
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[16:38:50] piranha: а давай, положи где-нить просто json
[16:39:16] piranha: впрочем, забей
[16:39:17] piranha: у меня есть большой объект
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[16:41:54] piranha: http://paste.in.ua/1536/ - файл на 4,5 мега
[16:42:07] piranha: nmk: чем больше файл, тем больше вероятность, что дипкопи будет быстрее
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[16:45:04] nmk: piranha: ну у меня вот так вот http://paste.in.ua/1537/
[16:45:26] piranha: nmk: дипкопи медленнее деградирует
[16:45:35] piranha: видать, проверок больше внутри или заимплеменчен на питоне
[16:45:37] piranha: афк
[16:46:35] nmk: а с BSON получается 9.94 ms per loop
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[16:47:10] nmk: всё равно долго..
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[16:52:20] nmk: piranha: рекурсивная функция, которая тупо провряет значение на дикт и на list работает быстрее чем deepcopy в 2-3 раза. но возможно она бажная.
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[17:05:02] piranha: nmk: возможно, может стоит глянуть в сорс дипкопи
[17:05:16] nmk: да там не просто
[17:05:19] nmk: я глянул мельком
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[18:03:53] gf: ктонить автодополнение к админке прикручивал?
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[18:04:02] gf: у меня файрбаг выдает:
document.getElementById("id_date") is null
[Прерывать на этой ошибке] <script type="text/javascript">docu...mentById("id_date").focus();</script>
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$("#lookup_category").autocomplete is not a function
[Прерывать на этой ошибке] onItemSelect:selectItem_category
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[19:34:28] deepwalker: а есть что-нибудь такое, чтобы как монго гибкое, но типа sqlite легкое
[19:34:29] deepwalker: ?
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[19:35:13] deepwalker: жене магазин делаю, у нее идеи фонтанируют, мне эти миграции уже надоели : )
[19:35:37] deepwalker: нет худшего заказчика - не скажешь, что да нафиг
[19:35:51] nmk: так mongo с небольшой базой вполне легкое
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[19:45:39] piranha: nmk: его запускать как демон надо
[19:45:45] piranha: deepwalker: bdb? ;-)))
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[20:00:35] deepwalker: м, возможно
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[20:03:23] piranha: deepwalker: а ты на чëм пишешь? :)
[20:03:41] piranha: а то если вдруг на чëм определëнном, то я пофиксил sqlamigrate и он нормально определяет изменения
[20:05:42] deepwalker: на определенном : )
[20:05:53] deepwalker: мне мне все равно хочется чего-нибудь не sql-ного
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[21:48:08] deepwalker: еще бы БД с админкой какой-то...
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[21:48:20] deepwalker: ээх
[21:48:23] wiz: couchdb с админкой
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[21:48:34] deepwalker: да она убогая
[21:49:50] Typhon: к sqlite есть всякие морды
[21:49:52] Typhon: :_^
[21:50:07] deepwalker: sqlite - sql
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[21:51:03] Typhon: а, ты носкля хочешь. к модноsql поляки с уапайкона делали морду, вроде какую-то
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[21:51:28] deepwalker: ниче не понял : )
[21:51:34] deepwalker: кто такой модносикуль?
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[21:52:50] Typhon: монга
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[22:06:49] xa4a: deepwalker: почему нескл?
[22:07:45] deepwalker: ну хочется опупенной гибкости
[22:07:51] deepwalker: чтобы понимаешь список в поле хранить
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[22:08:30] xa4a: для этого придумали реляционные БД. они умеют связь one2many
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[22:08:40] deepwalker: фе
[22:09:03] deepwalker: это же неудобно
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[22:11:07] piranha: class Field(Model):
name = String()
value = String()
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[22:24:27] Typhon: deepwalker, постгрес умеет массив хранить в поле
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[22:26:18] deepwalker: ну вы чего какие? nosql же супер, mongodb is web scale! : ))
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[22:28:19] deepwalker: и эта, шардинг там, все такое
[22:28:28] Tony: совсем недавно я был настолько же фанатичен. :)
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[22:28:41] deepwalker: а что заставило отойти?
[22:28:54] piranha: Tony: представь там тег <sarcasm>
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[22:33:08] Tony: piranha, ok
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[22:33:23] Tony: deepwalker, когда поработал вплотную. возможно пока не до конца осилил.
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[22:33:53] Tony: нет. я не отошел. некоторые вещи отлично просто. я прям протащился. в некоторых же не очень.
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[22:44:09] xa4a: deepwalker: у тебя уже есть нагрузка, чтобы шардинг лепить?
[22:44:30] deepwalker: а вдруг?
[22:44:42] deepwalker: вообще у меня сайт полностью статика : )
[22:44:54] deepwalker: и корзина на js
[22:45:02] Tony: тогда делай просто статически генерируемый html
[22:45:07] Tony: а все же есть серверсайд.
[22:45:09] deepwalker: так я его и делаю
[22:45:27] deepwalker: серверсайд это тупой скрипт под appengine
[22:45:36] deepwalker: почтой заказ отсылает
[22:45:38] wiz: ну делай и корзину в статику (8
[22:45:46] deepwalker: а корзина в куках
[22:45:57] Tony: а весь проект тоже на appengine хостится?
[22:46:00] deepwalker: ага
[22:46:06] deepwalker: а база sqlite
[22:46:10] Tony: ну тогда хуле паришься. там же без вариантов. :)
[22:46:13] deepwalker: из которой он генерится
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[22:46:32] Tony: нихуя не понел. так ты не юзаешь хранилище gae?
[22:46:39] deepwalker: мне просто хочется гибкое хранилище, с мордой, чтобы легко схему менять
[22:46:45] deepwalker: да, не юзаю
[22:46:54] deepwalker: мне там нечего хранить
[22:46:56] Tony: отчаяный парень
[22:47:11] deepwalker: блин, да это просто интернет магазин : )
[22:47:21] deepwalker: сделайте заказ, мы вам перезвоним
[22:47:30] deepwalker: чего там в gae хранить то?
[22:47:42] deepwalker: заливается скриптом
[22:47:49] Tony: а когда пользователь делает заказ. куда он девается?
[22:47:57] deepwalker: один экземпляр на гае, второй на местный томский хостинг
[22:48:04] deepwalker: на почту уезжает
[22:48:13] deepwalker: два скрипта, один на gae один на пыхе
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[22:48:42] Tony: пиздец. спасибо что рассказал. я думал что я тут костыли втыкаю. :)
[22:48:51] deepwalker: где ж костыли?
[22:49:06] deepwalker: отлично работает
[22:49:19] deepwalker: фильтр по товарам :) все дела
[22:50:13] deepwalker: www.funnymummy.ru, да да, верстка не совершенна, на дизайнере я наэкономил
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[22:51:34] Typhon: слингокурток! -- прочёл как "слингокруток"
[22:51:40] Typhon: потом исправился, но всё равно не понятно, штоэта!1!17!
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[22:51:56] deepwalker: лучше не надо : )
[22:52:07] deepwalker: просто потыкай клевые фильтры!
[22:52:49] deepwalker: а то ж вдруг мы дойдем до 10-ти видов слингов?
[22:53:03] deepwalker: и твоя голова не выдержит
[22:53:07] Typhon: у меня в голове слинги, это что-то типа зоргов
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[22:53:50] Typhon: *зергов
[22:54:09] Typhon: хотя, "зорг" -- тоже страшно :( http://zorgbiogas.ru/
[22:54:26] Typhon: биореатор
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[22:58:24] deepwalker: вот так как он весь такой у меня экспериментальный, то хочется под него с БД помутить
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[22:58:41] wiz: http://www.funnymummy.ru/slingoodezhda_dlya_mam.html — куртки для выгула котэ :3
[22:58:55] tilarids: funnymummy - забавная муммия?
[22:59:12] deepwalker: веселая мама
[22:59:24] deepwalker: кстати ты конечно прав, что мумия тоже
[22:59:30] deepwalker: но и мама тоже
[23:00:03] tilarids: funny тут не очень подходит, если честно
[23:00:20] deepwalker: да ну какая разница?
[23:00:31] tilarids: ок
[23:00:50] deepwalker: нет, ну можно конечно и получше название придумать
[23:00:52] wiz: это ж для Томска магазин, а не для Мельбурна например
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[23:01:26] deepwalker: ну да, в Томске может никто и не разберет, мумия там или не мумия
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[23:04:28] Typhon: в китае слинги называются "май-тай". в удмуртии "ныпъет", у цыган -- "дыкхло", в японии -- "онбухимо"
[23:04:35] Typhon: меня не зря пугает слово, как я думаю
[23:06:14] deepwalker: ты что, это ж круче всякой гомеопатии сейчас
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[23:07:08] deepwalker: у меня просто пупс мелкий
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[23:07:44] deepwalker: эти дитячии темы вокруг витают
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