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[01:47:53] creitve: после запуска gunicorn_django settings.py
[01:47:57] creitve: дифдиагноз
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[02:21:59] webninja: подскажите
[02:22:11] webninja: вообщем файл вьюхи децл разросся
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[02:22:18] webninja: хочу в отдельные файлы перекидать
[02:22:32] webninja: для этого сделал папку views
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[02:22:50] webninja: и там соответственно options.py home.py и т.д.
[02:23:43] webninja: чето ошибку выдает
[02:23:50] webninja: Exception Type: ImportError Exception Value: No module named options
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[02:24:42] webninja: походу
[02:24:47] webninja: хых __init__
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[03:31:38] creitve: так кто-нибудь работал ведь с virtualenv
[03:31:42] creitve: ?
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[04:13:16] webninja: а что это?
[04:13:26] gf: кто здесь?
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[04:37:30] webninja: код глянуть
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[04:38:30] webninja: http://dumpz.org/26907/
[04:38:36] webninja: чето пиздец какой-то
[04:38:45] webninja: мне дико не нравится эта лестница из else
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[04:42:40] webninja: ща попробую изобразить функцией которая будет этот эррор возвращать
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[05:18:30] Tony: webninja, ебать мой хуй
[05:19:03] Tony: webninja, django-way заключается в том,чтобы это все упаковать в форму.
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[05:21:04] webninja: бля
[05:21:06] Tony: # а это вообще УЖОСНАХ!
raw_template = get_template('templates_upload.html')
html = raw_template.render(Context(values))
return HttpResponse(html)
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[05:21:24] webninja: да можно shortcuts
[05:21:29] Tony: я бы на твоем месте сделал TarFileField
[05:21:42] Tony: где его бы валидировал.
[05:22:16] Tony: http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/forms/validation/
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[05:23:31] Tony: вообще у тебя очень странный подход
[05:23:37] Tony: ты же делаешь:
upload_form.is_valid():
[05:23:45] Tony: так почему после этого у тебя все равно какие-то валидации идут?
[05:24:02] Tony: канонично правильно все валидации сделать там.
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[05:25:01] webninja: ща попробую
[05:25:13] Tony: в том числе и проверить на все что надо в моделях итд итп.
[05:25:26] Tony: и у тебя будет DRY в итоге в любом месте заюзаешь это поле.
[05:25:27] Tony: алсо
[05:25:35] Tony: шорткаты это тот еще сифилис.
[05:25:38] Tony: щас скину что я юзаю
[05:26:14] webninja: и еще вопрос
[05:26:24] webninja: вот я например представляю себе структуру сайта
[05:26:35] webninja: типа кликнул там загрузилось это
[05:27:22] webninja: но получается в темплэйтах приходится относительные урлы прописывать, что мне кажется не очень хорошо. хотябы с той позиции что если нужно будет менять чето придется менять это в нескольких местах
[05:27:37] Tony: http://dpaste.com/294351/ # такие декораторы для view использую. но в 1.3 это не будет иметь смысла там уже будут class based views
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[05:27:55] webninja: <form action="/templates/upload" method="post" enctype="multipart/form-data">
{% csrf_token %}

[05:27:58] webninja: типа вот
[05:28:00] Tony: webninja, так урлконф надо юзать для урлов.
[05:28:45] Tony: http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/http/urls/
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[05:29:22] Tony: http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/http/urls/#naming-url-patterns вот отсюда можно начать
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[05:32:03] webninja: ща
[05:32:05] webninja: спасиб )
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[05:35:11] webninja: from .decorators import ajax_required что сия запись означает?
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[06:02:38] webninja: блин врубился про URL Patterns ващееее
[06:02:40] webninja: супер продуманно
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[06:02:53] webninja: Tony: спасиб
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[06:04:48] webninja: "но в 1.3 это не будет иметь смысла там уже будут class based views"
[06:04:57] webninja: ах блин ну тогда не буду их юзать
[06:05:22] webninja: скоро уже 1.3 потом переделывать
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[06:07:54] Tony: ну ты можешь старые также в 1.3 юзать.
[06:07:58] Tony: незачто
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[06:09:22] Tony: ajax_required это декоратор который проверяет что запрос был сделан действительно через ajax, а не кто-то руками дернул.
[06:09:36] Tony: но это отавизм. такое уже где-то в django есть. просто переписывать нет смысла сейчас.
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[06:16:46] Tony: csrf кстати сразу можно включить в эти декораторы.
[06:16:48] Tony: я ушел
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[09:44:47] webninja: блин Tony а ведь реально столько кода лишнего бы понаписал )
[09:45:00] webninja: щаз вроде сделал TarGzFileField
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[09:45:23] Tony: :)
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[09:46:21] webninja: и его использовать буду в нескольких местах
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[09:48:27] Tony: true. плохо писать один и тот же код больше 1 раза
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[09:49:20] webninja: канешно. просто с фрэймворками особо не работал
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[09:49:46] webninja: непонятно местами как реализуется "традиционно"
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[09:50:40] Tony: в каком плане традиционно?
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[09:50:42] Tony: django-way?
[09:50:45] webninja: ну да
[09:51:31] Thunde®: как в pygtk взять содержимое entry1 и запихать его в label1 ?
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[09:53:52] Tony: webninja, большинство с опытом приходит. главное ищи на сайте. в django на удивление много кода покрыто документацией. в крайнем случае не бойся лезть в исходники. я после twisted только в исходники и лезу.
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[09:57:32] webninja: да доков дофига
[09:57:37] webninja: все не осилить за раз
[09:58:14] Thunde®: кто знает справочник со свойствами и методами объектов в pygtk?
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[09:58:43] webninja: !g pygtk справочник
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[09:59:39] webninja: оно?
[10:00:01] webninja: надо будет Qt освоить
[10:00:08] webninja: есть идеи кое какие
[10:00:18] webninja: знаете например онлайн шоп чтобы поддерживать
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[10:00:42] webninja: нужен менеджер который будет заниматься товарами. удалять, добавлять описания, менять картинки
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[10:01:27] Renji: Qt не ужен. Use Tkinter.
[10:01:34] Renji: :D
[10:01:42] webninja: это все канешно прикольно делать через вебинтерфейс, а если товаров пара тысяч? запарно редактировать через веб. а вот примочка на Qt которая будет на фоне отгружать все это. ваще круто будет
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[10:16:06] _lorien: Почему запарно через веб?
[10:16:16] webninja: response time
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[10:18:26] _lorien: ну в quake же как-то играют через веб, почему для магазина этой скорости мало будет? )
[10:18:49] webninja: квейк локальное приложение
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[10:20:39] webninja: а так тебе придется ждать пока страница отгрузится. потом менять. потом жать кнопку пойдет пост реквест. потом редирект, типа пэйдж рефреш.
[10:20:45] piranha: _lorien: шо?
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[10:21:00] piranha: какой нах квейк через веб?
[10:21:28] webninja: скажите лучше
[10:21:49] webninja: я седня узнал что есть такая штука как урл паттерны. уже прописал их в темплейтах. все круто
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[10:22:06] _lorien: piranha: веб = инет, я имел в виду
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[10:22:40] piranha: ну ты сравнил
[10:22:51] piranha: пакетики кваки маленькие
[10:22:56] piranha: а страница пока отрисуется...
[10:23:11] webninja: HttpResponseRedirect() <<< а тут как можно? (HttpResponseRedirect(render_to_response({% url template %})))
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[10:25:30] webninja: def myview(request):
return HttpResponseRedirect(reverse('arch-summary', args=[1945]))
реверс бля
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[10:26:51] webninja: Qt же кросплатформенный?
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[10:33:29] Thunde®: запускаю прогу гтк, закрываю окошко, окошко исчезает, а в терминале видно, что прога не отпустила командную строку, как прально закрывать прогу?
[10:33:58] Thunde®: class App:
...
def close_app(self, widget):
gtk.main_quit()

if __name__ == "__main__":
app = App()
gtk.main()
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[10:38:30] Thunde®: это сложно сделать?
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[10:39:06] webninja: напрямую може вызвать?
[10:39:16] webninja: app.close_app()
[10:39:18] Thunde®: да я не знаю
[10:39:23] Thunde®: я ж тока начал
[10:39:25] Thunde®: щас попробую
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[10:40:28] Thunde®: то же самое
[10:40:32] Thunde®: выходу по контроль+С
[10:40:36] Thunde®: thunder@c2d:~/python/passgen$ ./passgen.py
^CTraceback (most recent call last):
File "./passgen.py", line 41, in <module>
gtk.main()
KeyboardInterrupt

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[10:45:49] Trec is now С НОВЫМ ГОДОМ!!! С НОВЫМ ГОДОМ!!!
[10:47:46] Trec: Доброе утро.
Чем отличается:
from datetime import datetime, date, time
от
import time
?
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[10:48:50] Trec: При обоих строчках всё работает, кошу вторую или меняю местами, валится код, при чём в неожиданных местах О.о
[10:48:54] Thunde®: сложные у тебя вопросы)) привет)
[10:48:57] piranha: тем, что ничего общего не имеет
[10:49:13] piranha: Trec: чувак, from datetime import time и import time - тебе не кажется, что названия похожие?
[10:49:25] piranha: и ты немного закрываешь одним другое?
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[10:49:36] piranha: если ты сделаешь
a = 1
a = 2
чему будет равняться a?
[10:49:56] Trec: ну так яж одну и туже импортирую,
[10:50:02] piranha: шо?
[10:50:17] Trec: у них разное наполнение?
[10:50:26] piranha: неожиданно, да?
[10:50:34] Trec: офигеть, чёж их то назвали тогда одинаково
[10:50:36] piranha: два разных модуля - а наполнение разное
[10:50:41] piranha: жизнь такая
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[10:50:53] Trec: эээ, выход какой?
[10:50:55] piranha: один называется datetime.time, второй называется time
[10:51:01] piranha: не импортировать так?
[10:51:02] Thunde®: есть *.py и *.glade, можно их объединить в один файл, скомпилить типа?
[10:51:08] piranha: from datetime import time as dtime
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[10:51:18] piranha: import datetime; datetime.time
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[10:52:16] Trec: ооо, щас попробую
[10:52:18] piranha: Trec: http://docs.python.org/library/time.html http://docs.python.org/library/datetime.html#time-objects
[10:52:27] Trec: спасибо
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[11:06:57] _lorien: > а страница пока отрисуется...
[11:07:00] _lorien: для ускорения можно использовать ajax
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[11:09:03] Thunde®: как на питоне скачать файл jpg7
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[11:10:08] Trec: urllib.urlretrieve(IMG_URL, имя_файла)
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[11:11:30] Thunde®: спасибо)
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[11:13:29] webninja: каптчу качает
[11:13:32] webninja: 100%
[11:13:38] webninja: у лориена есть готовый код
[11:14:04] Trec: а распознаёт?
[11:14:11] webninja: щаз
[11:14:24] webninja: есть сервисы для распознавания
[11:14:31] webninja: индусы распознают
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[11:14:42] Trec: ))
[11:15:29] Trec: знакомый на диплом сделал распознавание капчи)) пятёрку выхватил
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[11:16:15] webninja: простые легко распознаются
[11:16:41] webninja: Thunde®: https://bitbucket.org/lorien/tools/src/e9ce99c0f363/tools/captcha/gui.py
[11:16:44] _lorien is now I'm not here right now
[11:17:10] Trec: угу, открыл глаза и напечатал пальчиками )
[11:17:50] Thunde®: webninja, это для чего ты мне показал?
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[11:19:17] webninja: ну пример работы типа
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[11:20:42] _lorien: webninja: успокойся уже, похоже, он не капчу качает :D
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[11:21:22] webninja: так я спокоен ) там же базик апп gtk
[11:22:05] _lorien: блин, кажется я мазоль педалью сцепления натёр :D
[11:22:58] Thunde®: да, я не капчу, и щас не с гтк а с консольным скриптом))
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[11:24:06] webninja: http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/iTablet/105153/
[11:24:10] webninja: классная штука
[11:24:18] webninja: видел у товарища
[11:24:24] webninja: хых надо тож купить
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[11:27:24] Thunde®: для этого дела urllib.urlretrieve прогрессбар какой-нитьможно замутить?
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[11:29:57] webninja: curl'ом можно
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[11:32:05] webninja: import urllib2
mp3file = urllib2.urlopen("http://www.example.com/songs/mp3.mp3")
with open('test.mp3','wb') as output:
while True:
buf = mp3file.read(65536)
if not buf:
break
output.write(buf)

[11:32:14] webninja: или типа того
[11:32:45] webninja: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/51212/how-to-write-a-download-progress-indicator-in-python
[11:32:58] webninja: во кстати смотри прям urlretrieve можно
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[12:22:51] _lorien: http://informer.gismeteo.ru/G28698-1.GIF
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[12:23:18] webninja: тепло )
[12:23:25] webninja: -30 жесть )))
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[12:31:19] gigimon: _lorien: как ты там живешь?) у меня −1, дубарь ууу
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[12:34:41] _lorien: gigimon: я сам удивляюсь!! вообще на машине намного комфортнее перемещаться, даже учитывая, что ты её греешь 10 минут сидя внутри пока печка не работает.
[12:34:55] gigimon: )
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[12:35:22] _lorien: А вот идти 10-15 минут до остановки, потом ждать транспорт X минут и потом ехать 10-40 минут в достаточно холодном автобусе - это жесть.
[12:35:38] _lorien: В маршрутках обычно тепло, если печка работает хорошо :)
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[12:36:08] _lorien: Ещё такси, но их ждать в часы пик и в праздники можно дольше, чем идти до остановки и ехать автобусом )
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[12:50:03] deepwalker: _lorien, не нагнетай : )
[12:50:14] deepwalker: иногда тут бывает тепло, -17 там
[12:50:23] deepwalker: отлично гуляется в это время : )
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[12:51:23] deepwalker: мне больше понравилась фотка сургутского градусника, где шкалы вниз не хватило
[12:51:46] deepwalker: уехало куда за -45
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[12:53:37] _lorien: я на дром.ру читал отчёт чувака, который на севере живёт, у него там -60, -70 бывает
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[12:53:40] _lorien: o_O
[12:54:05] _lorien: в принципе, я теперь понимаю удивление чувака из аргентины, когда я про -30 сказал
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[12:54:11] _lorien: мне вот -60 тоже дикостью кажется )
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[12:57:35] gigimon: и как-то же живут
[12:57:44] gigimon: эх, у меня −3 и снега пару сантиметров, так бедствие
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[14:13:03] _lorien: в -3 если одежды нет тёплой, то тоже можно хорошо замёрзнуть
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[14:21:09] огыешсук: /me сидит дома, тут тепло, хорошо
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[14:50:39] Darth Лис: Java is a DSL for converting large XML files into Stack Traces.
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[15:07:35] piranha: Darth Лис: хотел сказать "боян", а потом хотел сказать "почему XML по-русски написано"? )
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[15:29:38] Darth Лис: кто нибудь ещё тут работает с картами?
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[18:16:39] Thunde®: народ, а почему на python.su , регистрация - 404 ?
[18:16:47] Thunde®: уже 2-й день кста
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[18:18:55] undefined: потому что надо тута http://python.su/forum/register.php регаться
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[18:24:32] Thunde®: угу, заметил уже
[18:24:39] Thunde®: а чо ссылку то не поправят?
[18:24:39] gf: ибанутся! на python.su/.*\.(php)
[18:25:05] Thunde®: угу, похапе рулит, гггг
[18:26:57] gf: в этом случае надо вводить новый домен первого уровня .sux, и регать на нем python..
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[18:27:45] gf: в символах разница небольшая, но зато по смыслу ахрененная..
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[18:57:41] Tony: http://python.su/forum/register.php - в мемориз
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[19:04:44] Tony: php
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[19:06:06] undefined: а форумы по си++ тоже должны быть переписаны на си++ !
[19:06:59] undefined: а wasm.ru - так это вообще святотатство!
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[20:33:18] jksvab: всем привет.подкиньте плз идей для написания небольших скриптов,программ под linux на python
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[20:34:27] undefined: скрипт, который устанавилвает в системе sbcl и удаляет все версии питона
[20:34:54] Typhon: :D
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[20:38:26] _lorien: jksvab: идёт на findtubes.com, ищет по запросу deep throat, скачивает видеофлешки, конвертирует их в avi, запаковывает в zip и посылает мне на емайл
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[20:38:53] undefined: и мне
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[20:40:38] jksvab: скиньтесь на анлим тогда:)
[20:41:26] undefined: это где сейчас дешевого анлима-то нет?
[20:41:38] jksvab: Минск,Беларусь)
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[20:42:44] jksvab: а например с уклоном в сторону системного администрирования
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[20:44:21] Typhon: о, у dabeaz'а была презентация на тему
[20:45:21] Typhon: хотя не совсем на тему, попутал ^_^
[20:45:34] Typhon: http://www.dabeaz.com/generators-uk/index.html , http://www.dabeaz.com/generators/index.html
[20:45:35] jksvab: может кто возьмет в свой проект чернорабочим?)))
[20:46:10] jksvab: Typhon,спасибо
[20:46:40] Typhon: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/aix/library/au-python/
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[20:48:03] Typhon: если тебе тупо практика нужна -- бери стандартные юниксовые утилиты и пиши аналог на питоне.
[20:48:09] Typhon: с тестами и блэкджеком
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[20:48:54] jksvab: типа grep'a и всего такого?
[20:50:02] Typhon: ну да
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[21:19:52] _lorien: jksvab: можешь в sr поконтрибутить :)
[21:20:00] _lorien: http://hg.lorien.name/sr
[21:20:17] _lorien: это такая херь типа grep, ещё и заменять умеет
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[22:51:34] Typhon: о, кажись мишок туториал на pycon рассказывать будет """ Building your own tile server using OpenStreetMap """ http://us.pycon.org/2011/blog/2011/01/05/tutorials-announced-pycon-2011/
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