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[00:52:28] gigimon: _lorien: хей, а к твоим древовидным комментам дока, как юзать есть?
[00:52:47] gigimon: и что вообще кошерно для древовидных комментариев юзать?
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[00:53:25] _lorien: доки нет, только сорцы
[00:53:27] _lorien: хз, что кошерно :)
[00:54:45] gigimon: _lorien: ну тогда в трех словах арсскажи, как их юзать? :)
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[00:55:51] _lorien: сорри, спать хочу :) посмотри там в модельки, во вьюшки, в темплейттэги и понятно будет :)
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[00:58:21] gigimon: %)
[00:58:27] gigimon: да вот чет смотрю...
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[01:07:10] gigimon: _lorien: у тебя nested sets?
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[01:13:15] _lorien: бля
[01:13:22] _lorien: открой код, ты видишь там nested sets? :)
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[01:36:39] _lorien: значит, там они не используются
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[07:36:12] Thunde®: как заюзать потоки, типа threading.Thread(какая-то операция)
так?
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[07:45:00] Thunde®: что это значит?
Exception in thread Thread-1 (most likely raised during interpreter shutdown)
[07:47:17] Thunde®: t.daemon = True
проблема была в этом
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[07:50:36] Thunde®: ау, кто-нить шарит в потоках, почему когда работает 1 поток - 100% ядро сжирает, когда 2 потока сеъедает 2 по 60%, а не 2 по 100, как это сделать?
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[07:58:41] Thunde®: надо было юзать не start() а run(), тогда и daemon канает
[07:59:00] Thunde®: но загрузка 100% х2 нет, одно ядро 100% - другое периодически скачет...
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[08:19:03] Thunde®: начитался, потоки или правильно нити - это не то, что мне было нужно, надо было гуглить в яндексе за процессы...
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[08:27:55] _lorien: Thunde®: из-за некого GIL в питоне, нити могут тока один проц нагрузить
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[08:28:29] _lorien: посмотри модуль processing
[08:28:34] Thunde®: да я уже)
[08:28:37] Thunde®: я ж написал)
[08:28:45] Thunde®: from multiprocessing import Process
[08:28:50] Thunde®: щас с ним развлекаюсь
[08:29:03] Thunde®: почему-то когда на 2-ядерный проц 2 процесса система вообще не тупит
[08:29:07] Thunde®: когда 4 тоже
[08:29:18] Thunde®: а 50 уже начинает зависать)))
[08:29:26] Thunde®: почему так?
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[08:36:03] _lorien: Ну я не знаю, что там у тебя за процессы :)
[08:36:07] _lorien: А нафиг тебе 50 процессов?
[08:36:44] Thunde®: да мну надо проц положить
[08:36:51] Thunde®: типа погреть маленько
[08:37:19] _lorien: А смысл 50 процессов? Вроде while True: pass в двух потока, должен нагнуть два проца, не?
[08:37:35] Thunde®: хммм, щас попробую
[08:37:43] Thunde®: while True :
str(random.random()).encode("zip")
[08:37:54] Thunde®: вот это не нагинает даже в 4 процессах 2 ядра
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[08:38:46] _lorien: у меня while True: pass - 100% загрузка проца
[08:39:19] Thunde®: я попробовал твоё
[08:39:25] Thunde®: да то, что 100% это всё херня
[08:39:34] Thunde®: я gkrellm смотрю
[08:39:45] Thunde®: если просто пасс, то он кажет 100% но проц нифига не считает
[08:40:04] Thunde®: если мой вариант, то 100% и половина из этих 100 уходит на расчёт
[08:40:33] _lorien: хм, ну вроде раньше такое канало, может процы умные стали :)
[08:40:34] Thunde®: даже не половина а 60-70%
[08:40:50] Thunde®: ну я те говорю, у мну кор2 старый, е6300 - 2 ведра
[08:41:08] Thunde®: ставлю 2 процесса как ты показал - 100% оба ядра
[08:41:15] Thunde®: но отзывчивость системы отличная
[08:41:31] Thunde®: свой вариант то же самое
[08:41:40] Thunde®: 4 процесса то же самое
[08:41:56] Thunde®: 8 процессов - мой вариант начинает уже дуплить систему, а пасс ещё нет
[08:42:09] _lorien: так а чем твой вариант не устроил?
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[08:42:49] Thunde®: да просто интересно, почему с 2 процессох не ложится всё
[08:42:57] Thunde®: это наверное линупс такой вумный
[08:43:10] _lorien: может процессоры умные? там всякие конвееры внутри, то сё
[08:43:11] Thunde®: и вообще как проц греть?
[08:43:14] Thunde®: угу
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[08:43:38] _lorien: нет щас матёрого сишника онлайн, я б у него спросил :)
[08:43:47] Thunde®: )))
[08:44:06] Thunde®: ну эт надо знать систему команд процессора и какие хорошо греют и ими грузить его
[08:44:21] Thunde®: думаю так робят всякие так LinX или как тама их
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[09:50:42] webninja: добрый день, джентльмены
[09:51:15] webninja: скажите, будьте любезны
[09:51:22] webninja: в админ интерфейсе джанги
[09:51:52] webninja: он отвратительно добавляет "s" к моделям
[09:52:13] webninja: т.е. модель ftp в админ интрефейсе ftps
[09:52:26] webninja: можно поменять? не нашел в доках
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[09:59:43] _lorien: class Meta: verbose_name_plural = 'Fucking things'
[09:59:57] _lorien: в ModelAdmin это надо вводить
[10:00:18] webninja: ага
[10:00:25] webninja: щаз попробую спасиб
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[10:04:37] Tony: гм. может встречал кто на питоне либу для разных вариантов хранения файлов?
[10:04:50] Tony: допустим хочу на fs хочу в BLOB, хочу в amazon s3
[10:05:08] Tony: у джанги вроде есть какая-то хуйня. но вот как раз в джанге мне это и не надо...
[10:05:11] webninja: что за BLOB?
[10:05:57] webninja: !g BLOB
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[10:10:47] webninja: _lorien syncdb нужно делать после этого?
[10:11:12] webninja: class FtpAdmin(admin.ModelAdmin):
class Meta:
verbose_name = _('Ftp')
verbose_name_plural = _('Ftp list')
[10:11:24] webninja: admin.site.register(Ftp, FtpAdmin)
[10:11:28] _lorien: webninja: нет
[10:11:47] _lorien: и ваще то это проверяется за 5 сек, не появилось, что ли?
[10:11:59] webninja: я нашел пример там в модель добавляют
[10:12:01] webninja: не
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[10:19:36] webninja: жаль канешно что через ModelAdmin не получилось
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[11:27:15] Ляпатяпа: а почему нельзя настроить логи от jabber.ru?
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[11:41:29] Lispython: привет
[11:42:06] Lispython: какой подход сейчас можно использовать для расширения модели user в django?
[11:42:55] Ляпатяпа: я манкипатчил
[11:43:32] Lispython: Ляпатяпа, а с south манкипачинг научился дружить?
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[11:55:49] Lispython: аа, не, там и не могло стать лучше ;-(
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[12:05:12] xa4a: кто solr юзает? это только я, или там действительно full-text поиск можно делать только по одному дейолтному полю?
[12:05:26] xa4a: *дефолтному
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[12:16:20] piranha: xa4a: типа да, ты их должен конкатенировать вместе
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[12:16:45] xa4a: piranha: а если я хочу поискать фултекстно только по одному полю?
[12:16:55] piranha: неудача
[12:17:10] xa4a: вообще у них есть звёздочка
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[12:17:20] piranha: xa4a: впрочем, ты у Сани спрашивал уже? :) Он же с солром раньше возился врде
[12:17:21] xa4a: но её какого-то хрена нельзя в начала запроса ставить
[12:17:28] piranha: ага
[12:17:30] piranha: нельзя
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[13:19:15] огыешсук: /me пытается воспользоваться csv.DictReader, ужас-ужас, вполне простой и понятный csv оно отказывается нормально парсить!
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[13:37:09] Darth Лис: мишок так и не объявился... видать отмечает до сих пор
[13:38:23] огыешсук: http://dumpz.org/27160/ что я делаю не так?
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[14:00:23] Darth Лис: http://failblog.org/2010/11/18/epic-fail-video-parking-fail-19/
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[14:38:29] Darth Лис is now Ура! У меня не новый ### Infium, а совершенно другая программа, скачать можно с http://www.pidgin.im/
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[15:59:35] _lorien: omg, про футболистов там жесть :)
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[16:06:56] Darth Лис is now Ура! У меня не новый ### Infium, а совершенно другая программа, скачать можно с http://www.pidgin.im/
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[17:44:08] bobry: товарищи, а как правильно переводить шаблоны в джанге?
[17:44:23] bobry: я шота не понимаю куда переводы из них идут
[17:44:28] bobry: в смысле где .po файл та
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[17:45:47] _lorien: %project%/locale/...
[17:46:13] bobry: _lorien: ты уверен? я что то в документации не могу ничего про это найти
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[17:46:36] bobry: более того, когда я запускаю django-admin makemessages из %project% он не находит переводы в шаблонах
[17:47:14] _lorien: а ты создал каталог locale?
[17:47:24] _lorien: ну вообще можешь в код посмотреть makemessages :)
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[17:47:39] bobry: ну это я щас совсем не хочу делать
[17:47:42] bobry: но видимо придется :(
[17:47:45] _lorien: django/core/management/... где-то там
[17:47:49] bobry: да, создал — он пустой
[17:47:51] bobry: ага
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[17:48:32] xa4a: makemessages/ru
[17:48:36] xa4a: makemessages ru
[17:48:38] xa4a: да?
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[17:48:50] bobry: -a
[17:48:57] bobry: но вообще там все равно только en и ru
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[17:49:19] bobry: пробовал явно указывать -e html
[17:49:21] bobry: все равно не ворк
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[17:51:16] _lorien: код смотри, там же написано всё, дебагай его )
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[17:51:53] bobry: да уже
[17:52:27] bobry: ло-ло, почему то -a не срабатывало
[17:52:35] bobry: указал явно -l ru и все завелось
[17:52:45] bobry: magic, x-mas \o
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[18:53:08] Ляпатяпа: /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/pygments/plugin.py:39: UserWarning: Module uuid was already imported from /usr/lib/python2.6/uuid.pyc, but /usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages is being added to sys.path
[18:53:18] Ляпатяпа: такое появилось после установки django-sentry
[18:53:37] Ляпатяпа: и такое же есть из-за supervisord на другом сервере
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[18:54:02] Ляпатяпа: бесит, каждый раз когда в консоль заходишь вылазит
[18:54:03] Ляпатяпа: кто-нибудь справлялся?
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[20:57:32] Tony: неужто нет ничего в builtin чем бы можно было отрисовать '-10' и '+10' строкой в зависимости от отрицательного либо положительного числа?
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[21:00:37] piranha: (x > 0 and '+' or '') + str(x)
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[21:01:40] Tony: ну вот я примерно такую лямбду и написал. но совесть мучает вдруг велосипед
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[21:11:03] xa4a: In [3]: '%+d %+d' % (5, -5)
Out[3]: '+5 -5'

[21:11:10] xa4a: йомана
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[21:18:00] piranha: хы
[21:18:01] piranha: крутота
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[21:29:31] cutwater: утро всем
[21:29:42] piranha: утрота
[21:29:50] cutwater: а есть ли среди нас адепти вима, поделитесь опытом \ конфигами \ воркфлоу
[21:30:40] piranha: короче запускаешь вим, и там жмëшь :!apt-get install emacs
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[21:30:44] piranha: :)(
[21:31:04] cutwater: :-D
[21:31:19] cutwater: piranha: хм.. и ты пишешь в емаксе?
[21:31:30] cutwater: поделись конфигами \ поделись хоткеями \ поделись опытом
[21:31:37] cutwater: да и вообще скрины и т.п.
[21:31:45] piranha: http://hg.piranha.org.ua/conf/file/tip/.emacs.d/
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[21:32:39] cutwater: да надо таки выучить Emacs Lisp
[21:32:41] piranha: cutwater: https://skitch.com/piranha/rene6/fullscreen
[21:33:32] xa4a: cutwater: github.com/xa4a/vimfiles
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[21:35:03] cutwater: piranha: хм.. я почему то думал что на маках лютый фетиш всех разработчиков - Textmate =)
[21:35:18] piranha: у него нет zap to char
[21:35:34] cutwater: это еще что такое?
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[21:36:12] piranha: ну жмëшь кнопку, символ, и до него всë удаляется
[21:36:26] piranha: в нëм даже такое невозможно сделать, не говоря уж о более понтовых вещах )
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[21:37:35] cutwater: хм. ясно. вообще давно хотел емакс осилить. но как-то к виму привык
[21:37:42] cutwater: ты как-то хоткеи настраивал?
[21:38:02] piranha: ну, немного: http://hg.piranha.org.ua/conf/file/a940518fbda0/.emacs.d/load/keys_init.el
[21:38:22] xa4a: http://i.imgur.com/wzIEt.png вим есичо)
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[21:39:15] cutwater: подсветка ниче такая.
[21:39:51] piranha: подсветка шо там, шо там, может быть до безумия разноцветной
[21:39:58] piranha: меня просто задрали тëмные темы
[21:40:28] cutwater: да я знаю. просто отметил
[21:40:40] cutwater: вообще надо таки осилить емакс. но для этого еще его надо сконфигурировать блин
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[21:41:12] xa4a: скорее наоборот
[21:41:28] piranha: наоборот, да
[21:41:37] piranha: чтоб сконфигурить, надо осилить
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[21:42:30] cutwater: piranha: один момент меня мучает, если начал набирать команду, потом понял что ошибся. как ее отменить?
[21:42:49] piranha: C-g нажать
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[21:46:00] cutwater: xa4a: это у тебя git submodule ?
[21:46:07] cutwater: в bundle использовал?
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