[00:01:22] deepwalker: http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/python/111588/#habracut очередная бугогашенька
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[01:21:59] Typhon: http://groups.google.com/group/redis-db/browse_thread/thread/9fbc4b033b387baa?pli=1
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[01:28:41] gigimon: Typhon: а что они под фрагментированием подразумевают? чтобы редис память съел?
[01:29:20] Typhon: третий пункт в "rules"
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[10:01:26] mishok13: http://highscalability.com/blog/2011/1/10/riaks-bitcask-a-log-structured-hash-table-for-fast-keyvalue.html
[10:01:45] mishok13: полная жопа
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[10:01:51] mishok13: Keys are stored in memory for fast lookups. All keys must fit in RAM.
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[10:08:09] wiz: так это ж кейс только, без валуесов наверно
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[11:43:39] mishok13: ну как бы
[11:43:47] mishok13: если ключами например строки
[11:43:56] mishok13: по 100 байтов длиной
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[11:44:01] mishok13: и всего 16 гигов памяти
[11:44:37] mishok13: то это всего 160 млн ключей
[11:44:56] mishok13: это при условии отсутствия фрагментации памяти
[11:45:28] wiz: + сам хэш ещё
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[11:50:25] mishok13: и шо
[11:50:32] mishok13: а потом 64
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[11:50:39] mishok13: а потом искать инстансы с 128
[11:50:43] mishok13: или кластеры хренячить
[11:50:50] mishok13: ну нафиг такое удовольствие
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[11:52:44] mishok13: быстро -- это inmemory db
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[11:53:00] mishok13: а тут хз что, с постоянным random access по диску
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[13:54:50] mishok13: поцоны, кто на пайкон в марте едет?
[13:55:01] mishok13: мне бы комнату зашарить с кем-нибудь
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[14:00:10] gigimon: mishok13: а где он?
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[14:00:41] gigimon: украина который?
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[14:05:58] deepwalker: gigimon, мировой, как понял
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[14:06:49] gigimon: ух, на мировом мне делать нечего ))) а вот на украинский сходил бы, послушать умных людей
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[14:12:36] slav0nic: проще на шару посмотреть в инете В)
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[14:13:34] gigimon: умные люди, подскажите пожалуйста примерный алгоритм решения такой задачи: задается N количество гирь, потом каждой задается свой вес от 0 до 100, надо узнать,можно ли уравновесить чаши весов или нет
[14:13:45] gigimon: понимаю что задача должна быть тривиальной
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[14:14:06] gigimon: пока додумал только, что надо отсортировать во возрастанию и потом как-то проверять
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[14:14:32] gigimon: а вот как объединять непойму
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[14:16:22] xa4a: решение в лоб - перебрать все подмножества
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[14:16:55] xa4a: даже можно половину
[14:17:10] nmk: а просто сложить и посмотреть остаток низя? :)
[14:17:41] nmk: ааа.. не. низя
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[14:20:18] _lorien: Алгоритм должен быть оптимальный? Если нет, то просто перебором.
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[14:21:42] _lorien: Берём Самую большую гирю. Если сумма остальных по веса равна этой гире - решение найедно. Иначе добавляем к большой гире по очереди каждую из оставшегося множества и сверяем сумму двух на левой чаше и сумму остальных на правой :) Ну и так перебираем всё подряд...
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[14:22:11] gigimon: мм
[14:22:19] gigimon: _lorien: наверно самое простое решение
[14:22:28] gigimon: про оптимальность всеранво
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[14:22:30] gigimon: спасибо
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[14:25:08] _lorien: вообще, если сумма всех гирь нечётное число - то уравновесить точно нельзя :D
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[14:33:12] Tony: лололо. решал эту задачу.
[14:33:20] Tony: кстати лет 6 назад. на С++
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[14:34:16] gigimon: Tony: как-то правильно делал?
[14:34:19] Tony: кстате нет. другая задача...
[14:34:29] Tony: сори. я наркоман. как обычно. :)
[14:34:55] xa4a: gigimon: ты спрашиваешь как перебрать все подмножества?
[14:35:18] gigimon: как сгруппировать в подмножества
[14:35:22] gigimon: по каким признакам
[14:35:26] gigimon: ну и потом перебрать
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[14:35:38] xa4a: ну у тебя есть N гирь
[14:35:57] xa4a: берёшь N-значные двоичные числа
[14:36:09] xa4a: от 0 до (2^N)-1
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[14:36:22] xa4a: каждому числу соответствует подмножество твоих гирь
[14:36:33] xa4a: тоесть каждой гире ставишь в соответствие один знак числа
[14:36:42] xa4a: если он 0 - не включаешь в множество, если 1 - включаешь
[14:36:43] xa4a: это всё
[14:37:08] xa4a: тоесть для N=3 у тебя подмножества: 000, 001, 010, 011, 100, 101, 110, 111
[14:37:17] xa4a: из них половину можно выкинуть
[14:37:29] xa4a: т.к. в твоём случае 100 эквивалентно 011
[14:37:46] gigimon: а почему эквивалентно?
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[14:38:07] xa4a: зачем ты выбираешь подмножества? чтобы выбрать подмножество и сравнить с оставшимися гирями
[14:38:14] gigimon: точно, затупил
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[14:38:29] xa4a: если ты выбрал 011 и осталось 100, то это эквивалентно тому, что ты выбрал 100 и осталось 011
[14:38:35] gigimon: угу
[14:38:36] gigimon: понял
[14:39:21] xa4a: но скорее всего должен быть более оптимальный путь решния
[14:40:10] gigimon: сижу гуглю)
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[14:43:02] mishok13: slav0nic, ага
[14:43:07] mishok13: именно спикать
[14:43:12] mishok13: только туториалить
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[16:16:39] bobry: товарищи, а шо ща наиболее вменяемое из форумов на джанге
[16:16:46] bobry: django-bb не рекламировать :)
[16:16:59] slav0nic: тогда попробуй DjangoBB!
[16:17:18] slav0nic: свой пиши, ваще на джанго вики есть табличко
[16:17:26] bobry: slav0nic: та мне надо минимальный функционал
[16:17:31] slav0nic: pybb
[16:17:33] bobry: django-bb как то монструозно выглядит
[16:17:43] bobry: свой писать совсем не хочется :)
[16:17:47] slav0nic: не монструзно дофига всего
[16:17:55] slav0nic: django-forum
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[16:18:13] bobry: о, lorien свой блекджек наковал
[16:18:15] bobry: я что то и забыл
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[16:18:46] slav0nic: http://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/ForumAppsComparison
[16:19:22] bobry: о, спасибо — я что то там и не посмотрел
[16:19:25] slav0nic: Dinette, LBForum глянь но там у меня по-моему были притензии по коду)
[16:19:54] slav0nic: зато у нас есть на китайском перевод
[16:19:55] slav0nic: )
[16:19:58] bobry: :))
[16:20:02] bobry: ну все, ты меня покорил
[16:20:24] bobry: pybb.org то лежит
[16:20:30] slav0nic: на битбаскете глянь
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[16:21:07] slav0nic: https://bitbucket.org/lorien/pybb/overview
[16:21:09] bobry: туда даже заходить противно :(
[16:21:18] slav0nic: та норм
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[16:43:43] xa4a: вот я написал какой-то кусок кода, который, думаю, кому-то пригодится и хочу выложить его на pypi например
[16:44:16] xa4a: куда смотреть в сторону упаковки? всякие там setup.py итд. это distribute?
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[16:47:59] slav0nic: http://docs.python.org/distutils/index.html
там обчитаешься)
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[17:00:44] gigimon: xa4a: а подскажи если время есть, вот ты говорил про двоичные подмножества. Начал делать, там даже для 20 чисел их дофига получается и долго вычисляется соответствие, если так делать:
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[17:01:12] xa4a: угу
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[17:02:44] xa4a: посмотри на каком-то вики примеры NP-задач. если не найдёшь эквивалентную своей, то скорее всего, для неё есть простой быстрый алгоритм
[17:02:53] xa4a: проще, чем этот, который O(2^N)
[17:03:02] bobry: дык есть эквивалентная же
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[17:03:04] bobry: subset sum problem
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[17:03:37] gigimon: bobry: это название алгоритма?
[17:03:48] bobry: не, это название проблемы
[17:04:05] gigimon: понятно
[17:04:14] gigimon: щас пойду книги с алгоритмами смотреть
[17:04:17] gigimon: может есть что такое
[17:04:23] bobry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subset_sum_problem
[17:05:08] bobry: правда у тебя нужно две суммы считать
[17:05:11] bobry: для двух гирек
[17:05:15] bobry: хмм
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[17:05:36] bobry: так, похоже я фигню посоветовал — можешь не смотреть
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[17:06:38] xa4a: Define the boolean-valued function Q(i,s) to be the value (true or false) of
"there is a nonempty subset of x1, ..., xi which sums to s".
Thus, the solution to the problem is the value of Q(n,0).

[17:06:44] xa4a: там в одном из рещений в вики
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[17:07:03] gigimon: почитаю, спс
[17:07:04] xa4a: похоже, нужная gigimon задача - решаетя, там, как более общая
[17:07:22] xa4a: хотя тоже не то, может быть
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[23:12:05] Typhon: чем тебе не угодил
[23:12:14] Typhon: у меня к нему ( или к чероки, или к их интеграции) тоже вопросы есть большие
[23:12:36] deepwalker: Sevenov, расскажи
[23:12:41] Typhon: Sevenov, ??!?!?! ( я там выше знак забыл )
[23:12:41] deepwalker: излей душу
[23:12:51] Sevenov: deepwalker, да чота валится он
[23:12:57] deepwalker: Zubchick, заюзай жинжу
[23:13:01] Sevenov: даже flup как-то стабильнее выглядил
[23:13:09] Sevenov: *дел
[23:13:09] deepwalker: и во всех проектах юзай жинжу
[23:13:10] Typhon: а как валица?
[23:13:16] Typhon: может ты харакири настроил? :)
[23:13:16] deepwalker: и забудь про джанго темплейты
[23:13:28] Typhon: и супервизор воркеров убивает тупо ^_^
[23:13:34] Zubchick: deepwalker, спасибо да уже поздно
[23:13:35] deepwalker: Sevenov, у меня работает как часы, 10тыр rps
[23:13:45] deepwalker: Zubchick, пока еще нет
[23:13:47] Zubchick: я уже через parentloop сделал
[23:13:51] Sevenov: Typhon, нет супервизоров. Есть upstart.
[23:13:54] Zubchick: нет?)
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[23:13:59] deepwalker: еще не поздно, чесс слово
[23:14:09] Sevenov: deepwalker, ну вот у меня оно как бы еще --vhost --no-sites
[23:14:24] deepwalker: чем раньше ты переключишься на жинжу, тем лучше будет твоя дальнейшая жизнь
[23:14:38] deepwalker: я писал проект с жинжей, и не написал ни одного темплейт тега!
[23:14:48] Sevenov: deepwalker, МАКРОСЫ!
[23:14:53] deepwalker: да да
[23:14:54] Zubchick: deepwalker, хорошо уговорил :)
[23:15:00] Zubchick: посмотрю
[23:15:13] Sevenov: в общем, либо я ниасилятор uwsgi, либо оно меня не осилило.
[23:15:17] Sevenov: либо одновременно
[23:15:18] deepwalker: кто бы знал, как я ненавижу стопитсот темплейт тегов, под тупые операции
[23:15:20] Sevenov: либо либо
[23:16:00] deepwalker: Sevenov, хм, обидно, потому что мне нравится uwsgi, правда без vhost
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[23:16:44] deepwalker: но так беспроблемно, сунул его в апстарт, он процессов запустил, и все летает
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[23:17:17] Typhon: deepwalker, а впереди него ничо не ставил?
[23:17:24] Typhon: точнее, что ставил впереди
[23:17:29] deepwalker: nginx
[23:17:43] Sevenov: deepwalker, мне тоже нравится. Просто нужно хостить кучку корпоративных говносайтиков, чтобы деплой был простой, без лишнего прописывания чего-то там в nginx, а что-то типа того:

server {
....
location / {
uwsgi_pass unix:///tmp/uwsgi.sock;
include uwsgi_params;
uwsgi_param UWSGI_SCRIPT run_wsgi;
uwsgi_param UWSGI_PYHOME /path/to/project/venv;
uwsgi_param UWSGI_CHDIR /path/to/project/www;
}
}
[23:18:37] Sevenov: Мммм, японел. Эта букашка ЖРЕТ ОПЕРАТИВЫ
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[23:19:58] Sevenov: О, я дурень, только что додумался глянуть в htop
[23:20:24] Sevenov: Там passenger свирепствует и жрёт столько, сколько хочет.
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[23:33:59] deepwalker: http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/python/111681/ на удивление вроде вменяемый пост
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[23:35:49] flash__: мужики. можете показать\направить_на кусок рабочего кода с QTreeView + QAbstractItemModel ?
[23:36:20] Sevenov: Подумал тут. Есть в России N городов, пейтон-девелоперов, получается, тоже примерно N штук.
[23:36:24] Sevenov: по штуке на город
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[23:36:54] deepwalker: flash__, http://www.hardcoded.net/articles/using_qtreeview_with_qabstractitemmodel.htm
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[23:37:14] deepwalker: у меня есть двое, известных мне
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[23:37:40] deepwalker: стоп, короче в Томске знаю еще одного, и он говорил мне, что есть третий : )
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[23:38:10] Sevenov: deepwalker, ну баланс таки есть - в каких-то городах нет пейтон-кодеров :)
[23:38:15] deepwalker: а в родной Самаре вообще ни одного не знаю
[23:38:24] deepwalker: я туда кстати переезжать собрался
[23:38:28] deepwalker: осеменю : )
[23:38:37] Sevenov: лол
[23:38:39] deepwalker: еще кого-нибудь испорчу
[23:38:51] Sevenov: /me ушел спать.
[23:38:53] deepwalker: уведу из светлого мира php
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[23:47:35] deepwalker: хм, скажите, что в убунте сейчас работает с аськой?
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[23:47:53] deepwalker: сдохла зараза и не оживает
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[23:50:09] Typhon: deepwalker, линупсоиды рекомундуют slogin.icq.com
[23:50:45] Typhon: (ну в смысле как сервер его указать)
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[23:51:11] Typhon: другие линупсоиды сидят прямо ща из Empathy
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[23:51:57] flash__: pidgin ;)
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[23:53:14] deepwalker: хм, копыто откинулось
[23:53:22] deepwalker: попробую пиджин
[23:53:43] deepwalker: что-то меня kde бесит последнее время
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