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[02:17:58] : _lorien установил(а) тему: Python.SU | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи на google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | За голосом - в приват к модераторам | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://➡.ws/pu
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[02:41:54] : _lorien установил(а) тему: Python.SU | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи на google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | За голосом - в приват к модераторам | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://➡.ws/pu
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[02:45:35] : _lorien установил(а) тему: Python.SU | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи на google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | За голосом - в приват к модераторам | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://➡.ws/pu
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[07:25:05] webninja: привет
[07:25:20] webninja: http://hg.piranha.org.ua/byteflow/file/43dd5d2ac4ab/apps/accounts/views.py#l120
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[07:25:33] webninja: вот тут типа from lib.decorators import render_to
[07:25:40] webninja: я тоже захотел такой декоратор
[07:25:49] webninja: создал в корне проекта папочку lib
[07:26:07] webninja: туда файлик decorators.py
[07:26:15] webninja: и там функция render_to
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[07:26:40] webninja: Django Version: 1.2.3 Exception Type: ImportError Exception Value: No module named libs.decorators
[07:26:44] webninja: и не хочет
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[07:39:03] webninja: так разобрался. блин __init__.py вечно забываю
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[07:45:31] bobry: webninja, pip install annoying
[07:45:46] bobry: или django-annoying как оно там называется
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[07:51:22] webninja: !g django-annoying
[07:51:41] webninja: бгг
[07:51:52] webninja: еще звучное название было бы django-scrubs
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[07:52:43] _lorien: pip install django-common :)
[07:52:46] webninja: also this_shit lib would be amazing. imagine : import this_shit
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[07:53:43] webninja: я уже поглядел в байтфлоу как делают умные люди
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[08:00:04] bobry: товарищи, какого хрена T(n) = T(n-1) + n принадлежит к O(n^2)?
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[08:30:38] Thunde®: прива всем
вроде зашарил за очереди в мультипроцессинге, написал скрипт, запустил, всё круто, быстро, потом чота замедлилось, смотрю процессов меньше стало... выходит, что какие-то процессы раньше закончили работу, или я где-то ошибся просто?
вот код http://pastebin.com/2SV14SvE
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[09:02:45] Thunde®: нет, ошибки нет, немного оптимизировал - всё круто
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[10:57:26] piranha: http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/python/112711/ plz vote :)
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[11:08:08] piranha: эх, шото на +6 застряло )
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[11:09:54] wiz: а как у этих сокетио с авторизацией?
[11:10:17] piranha: хммм
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[11:10:24] piranha: Joes: ^
[11:10:32] piranha: но лучше б вы в комментах там пообсчались
[11:10:48] Joes: никак
[11:10:56] Joes: в смысле - твои проблемы
[11:11:20] Joes: т.е. это просто транспортный уровень
[11:11:24] meglioth is now offline
[11:11:32] Joes: дает общее API для всех транспортных протоколо
[11:11:33] Joes: в
[11:11:48] Joes: как будешь организовывать интеграцию с твоей аппликухой - твои заботы
[11:12:11] Joes: может и не очень хорошо, но пожелания и идеи - приветствуются
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[11:13:03] wiz: тут просто один знакомый жаловался, на какие-то грабли с сессиями в сокетио и ещё какой-то странной фигнёй. подробностей не помню уже.
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[11:13:23] Joes: питон?
[11:13:32] Joes: какой бекенд был т.е.
[11:13:40] Joes: родной на node.js или питоновский?
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[11:13:53] Joes: старый питоновский ужасен.
[11:13:58] Joes: там действительно есть проблемы с сессиями.
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[11:20:36] Typhon is now Faster, Pussycat! Kill! Kill!
[11:20:46] Typhon is now Faster, Pussycat! Kill! Kill!
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[11:22:20] piranha: dick.io
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[11:22:47] mishok13: отличненько
[11:23:02] mishok13: piranha, я следующий проект внутренний так и назову
[11:23:06] mishok13: ты же не против?
[11:23:14] mishok13: или тебе надо будет отчисления отдавать?
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[11:23:39] piranha: не-не, я даже рад буду
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[11:26:06] wiz: dick.me
[11:26:40] wiz: или даже dick.biz
[11:26:41] Joes: :-)
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[11:28:13] piranha: bizduke
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[11:35:54] umi: http://bolknote.ya.ru/replies.xml?item_no=5998
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[11:39:57] piranha: umi: пипец
[11:40:20] umi: у меня мозг трещит )
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[11:40:49] piranha: ну, я интерпретатор запустил и подумал
[11:41:07] piranha: потому что так мозг ломать - нах надо
[11:41:12] wiz: /me пока терпит
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[11:41:50] Typhon: piranha: ++ ^_^
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[11:43:01] wiz: ну, в принципе достаточно просто
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[11:43:52] xa4a: на листике бумаги тоже просто
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[11:44:03] xa4a: хотя и в уме можно, да
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[11:45:27] piranha: ну, да, не очень ужасно
[11:45:32] wiz: ну там один шаг главное грокнуть, а дальше просто
[11:45:37] piranha: но приходится внимательно смотреть
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[11:45:52] piranha: ага, когда от единицы вызывается, да?
[11:46:12] piranha: по крайней мере для меня это основной момент был )
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[11:55:34] piranha: http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/python/112711/#comment_3609847
[11:55:35] piranha: гггг
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[12:00:09] mishok13: блять
[12:00:25] mishok13: а нодежс рвёт эрланг тряпки
[12:01:13] mishok13: ссанина, откуда эти эксперты вылазят?
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[12:06:20] Joes: бред какой-то :-)
[12:06:39] Joes: сравнивает мягкое с зеленім
[12:06:45] Joes: зеленым*
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[12:10:08] mishok13: """К слову, для того что бы Tornado заработал на HAProxy, нужно применить патч"""
[12:10:13] mishok13: дисквалификация
[12:10:17] mishok13: ;)
[12:12:15] Joes: ну чего я могу сделать.
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[12:12:26] Joes: все шишки валить на разработчиков Торнадо
[12:12:30] Joes: или HAProxy
[12:12:37] Joes: или на всех вместе.
[12:12:44] Joes: там магия в хендшейке
[12:13:01] Joes: хотя... я могу пофиксить.
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[12:14:15] mishok13: ну ты же понимаешь, что для деплоймента это серьезное неудобство?
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[12:14:37] Joes: понимаю.
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[12:14:44] mishok13: иди чини тогда!
[12:14:46] Joes: в целом - могу пофиксить в самой либе
[12:14:47] Joes: хех.
[12:14:48] mishok13: ;)
[12:15:00] Joes: угу..
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[12:15:45] mishok13: я сразу предупреждаю -- мне это не нужно, поэтому я просто придираюсь
[12:15:56] mishok13: но если бы понадобилось -- было бы серьезным минусом
[12:16:15] Joes: да я понял.
[12:16:22] Joes: пофиксить легко, но я виндузятник
[12:16:26] Joes: надо ставить виртуалку
[12:16:27] Joes: haproxy
[12:16:28] Joes: и т.д.
[12:16:30] Joes: :-)
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[12:17:08] mishok13: это надо исправлять
[12:17:10] mishok13: купи макбук
[12:17:18] mishok13: снеси макось, поставь арч
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[12:17:38] mishok13: и вперёд!
[12:18:05] Joes: да вот, после того как пощупал оный (макбук) у Муркта
[12:18:13] Joes: понял что надо брать.
[12:18:21] Joes: как железка - полный зачет.
[12:18:23] mishok13: у него про или эйр или обычный?
[12:18:28] Joes: MBP 13"
[12:18:29] piranha: обычный
[12:18:34] piranha: так шо это тупо шутка =)
[12:18:36] piranha: вот эйр - надо брать
[12:18:38] piranha: ;D
[12:18:44] Joes: да мне и обычный понравился.
[12:18:55] mishok13: эйр вообще зачот
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[12:18:59] Joes: после всех этих самсунгов, деллов и т.д.
[12:19:02] mishok13: я вот в марте думаю в Атланте прикупить
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[12:19:05] Joes: просто небо и земля.
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[12:19:14] mishok13: но я всё еще ломаюсь между mbp и air
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[12:19:32] piranha: mishok13: если б в эйре было 8 гигов рамы, то можно было бы вапще не думать
[12:19:35] piranha: а так это единственный плюс
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[12:19:42] mishok13: зато там ссд
[12:19:44] piranha: в эйре экран лучше кроме всего прочего
[12:19:46] piranha: в эйре тоже ссд
[12:19:49] piranha: а, ну да, там ссд
[12:19:53] mishok13: я про йэр как раз
[12:19:58] piranha: но ссд ты и в мбп можешь сам вставить
[12:20:00] mishok13: но только два гига рамы :(
[12:20:04] piranha: есть же на 4
[12:20:06] mishok13: но зато он лёгкий!
[12:20:10] piranha: 2 гига рамы с макосью это извращение
[12:20:13] mishok13: но он слабее чем про
[12:20:21] piranha: ну и шо?
[12:20:25] mishok13: короче, вот поэтому я и ломаюсь
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[12:20:57] mishok13: ну блин, у меня тут хобби и интересы вокруг data crunching в основном, поэтому хочется мощный ноут
[12:21:03] piranha: а...
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[12:21:10] piranha: в общем в эйр можно 4 гига рамы втулить
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[12:21:18] nmk: бля. я тоже ломаюсь между mbp 13 и air 11 с 4gb. но я решил переехать пока в другую хату, а в следующем месяце видно будет
[12:21:21] Joes: mishok13: я тоже так думал, когда брал новый ноут.
[12:21:25] Joes: купил dell xps 1645
[12:21:32] Joes: i7, 4 гига памяти, и т.д.
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[12:21:35] mishok13: ты купил dell, ты сам и страдай
[12:21:42] Joes: честно говоря, разочаровался.
[12:21:43] Joes: ага.
[12:22:02] slav0nic: и чем разочарован?
[12:22:10] Joes: ну он дубовый какой-то
[12:22:15] Joes: батарейка фиговая
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[12:22:30] Joes: (сравнимый MBP живет часов 5-6, мой - 1.5-2)
[12:22:44] Joes: эргономика не очень
[12:22:45] nmk: Joes: наверное еще если винду запустить, то там весь трей будет забит забавными иконками
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[12:22:51] Joes: :-)
[12:22:58] Joes: все эти иконки я сразу снес
[12:23:09] Joes: не, оно достаточно шустро
[12:23:14] nmk: я просто недуплю, нахуй предуставливать столько говна.
[12:23:15] Joes: но после MBP - не то.
[12:23:40] Joes: ну, конечно, разница в цене
[12:23:44] Joes: в штуку зелени
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[12:24:13] piranha: nmk: почему не эйр 13"?
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[12:24:23] mishok13: в штуку зелени?
[12:24:28] Joes: угу
[12:24:31] mishok13: 1200 - 1000 == 200?
[12:24:38] Joes: почему 1200?
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[12:24:40] mishok13: ну ок, с налогами 1300
[12:24:46] mishok13: ну, эээ
[12:24:56] mishok13: потому что в США покупать?
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[12:25:01] slav0nic: на 13" можно работать?)
[12:25:05] Joes: i7 с 4 гигами - 1200?
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[12:25:24] mishok13: slav0nic, вполне
[12:25:25] Joes: у меня где-то 2200 выходило, сейчас перепроверю
[12:25:30] Joes: на сайте эппла
[12:25:34] mishok13: ну, я про базовую версию
[12:25:35] slav0nic: ну явно не кодить
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[12:25:44] mishok13: slav0nic, кодить в первую очередь
[12:25:50] Joes: не, мне так что бы характеристики были похожие
[12:25:54] mishok13: а
[12:26:02] Joes: 2199
[12:26:04] Joes: 15"
[12:26:06] mishok13: мне просто 13 дюймов надо
[12:26:08] Joes: на i7
[12:26:11] slav0nic: да ну, мне 15 не хватает
[12:26:19] mishok13: slav0nic, да ты мажор
[12:26:21] piranha: slav0nic: я так и делаю уже два года
[12:26:25] slav0nic: 13 имхо для баловства и любителей поездить
[12:26:25] piranha: на 13 программлю
[12:26:36] nmk: piranha: в рашке разница в цене сильно больше. да и был бы mbp 11 я бы тогда между ним и airом колебался. мне ж тачка чисто таскать с собой при случае нужна
[12:26:41] piranha: и с головой, в емаксе два файла в соседних окнах видно нормально
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[12:26:52] piranha: nmk: а, ну у меня это основной аппарат
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[12:27:08] mishok13: 11 дюймов мне уже мало, всё таки
[12:27:15] mishok13: 15 слишком дохуя
[12:27:16] piranha: 11 мало откровенно
[12:27:20] mishok13: 13-14 мой формат
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[12:27:25] piranha: у нас чувак купил 11", прикольно, но уж слишком мало, а 13" - самое оно
[12:27:29] Joes: а вообще, то что мне хочется - 2749 в Штатах, антибликовый 15", i7, 8 гигов памяти
[12:27:36] Joes: но это дороговато.
[12:27:37] nmk: кодить наверное да, мало. но я пробовал дома кодить на 14, то ли потому что дома, то ли потому что ноут, но как-то не кодится
[12:27:42] slav0nic: какие-то вы неправильные)
[12:27:52] mishok13: slav0nic, мы закалённые просто
[12:27:59] slav0nic: в 13 и клава мелкая, и на экран много не влезет
[12:28:15] mishok13: мой первый экран был 8 дюймов
[12:28:28] mishok13: и вообще это был телевизор
[12:28:34] Joes: у меня тоже :-)
[12:28:41] Joes: Электроника
[12:28:45] Joes: помоему 8 дюймов
[12:28:50] mishok13: я хз что это было
[12:28:51] slav0nic: не ну есть люди которые на pys60 пишут на мобилках прямо
[12:28:54] mishok13: может и электроника
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[12:29:14] mishok13: маргиналы есть везде
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[12:29:24] mishok13: но 13 дюймов я не считаю крайностью
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[12:30:02] piranha: шо такое? раньше на 14" на 640х480 фигачили софт и ничо такого
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[12:30:40] piranha: я не понимаю вообще, какие проблемы - у меня разрешение 1280х800
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[12:30:50] mishok13: юникс вообще на перфокартах нахуярили
[12:31:05] piranha: 6 лет назад у меня был 17" с разрешением 1024х768 и никаких возмущений не было, все еще довольны были
[12:31:24] piranha: mishok13: ну ладно, но я имею в виду, что лет 5 назад 19" с таким разрешением было
[12:31:38] piranha: да и счас оно ж точно так же
[12:31:45] piranha: slav0nic: за каким ты сча монитором сидишь?
[12:31:46] slav0nic: глаза в трубочку не сворачиваются?)
[12:31:53] piranha: нет
[12:31:55] slav0nic: 19, гавёный
[12:32:04] piranha: ну и шо же ты выë тогда? :)
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[12:33:03] slav0nic: ну ёпт) хоть и гавёный, но в коде лазить поприятней
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[12:33:36] xa4a: 13" - ок в виме кодится отлично
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[12:33:51] xa4a: можно даже не два файла открывать, как в емаксе, а больше)
[12:33:52] piranha: slav0nic: хули поприятнее-то?
[12:33:57] piranha: у тебя что, не 1280х1024?
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[12:34:10] piranha: xa4a: да открыть ты можешь хоть миллион, вопрос в размере шрифта
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[12:34:24] slav0nic: ну так, об этом и речь
[12:34:24] xa4a: и размере дока, ага
[12:34:41] piranha: slav0nic: ну, у меня 1280x800, разница невелика
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[12:34:56] slav0nic: а шрифт какой? и сколько строк влазит на экран?
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[12:35:35] piranha: 45 строк, Monaco 120
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[12:35:46] piranha: не знаю, что такое 120, это вроде 14 в обычном измерении, как на мой взгляд
[12:35:58] piranha: по крайней мере в терминале у меня 14 и оно похожего размера
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[12:41:26] xa4a: 13 дюймов такие себе http://i.imgur.com/wggg5.png
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[12:43:20] slav0nic: В) надо будет ещё раз потыкать
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[12:43:35] mishok13: http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/infosecurity/112682/
[12:43:40] mishok13: наркоманы на городи
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[12:44:34] slav0nic: пусть свой интернет создадут
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[12:44:52] piranha: slav0nic: https://skitch.com/piranha/rmadt/fullscreen
[12:45:01] Typhon: раССовый фидонет
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[13:41:32] cutwater: Товарищи, вопрос по гиту
[13:41:35] cutwater: у меня есть бранч, я сделал там несколько коммитов, но последний временный
[13:41:39] cutwater: мне надо смерджить этот бранч с мастером, без последнего коммита
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[13:41:51] cutwater: что-то типа git merge branch:HEAD^ как такое сделать?
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[13:50:20] xa4a: git checkout HEAD; git merge <коммит перед временным> можт?
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[13:52:46] cutwater: xa4a: спасибо, то что надо
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[14:03:39] piranha is now I don't smile for pictures. I smile because it rocks.
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[14:06:11] piranha: xa4a: co HEAD?
[14:06:14] piranha: это шо еще значит?
[14:06:35] piranha: cutwater: co master; merge branch~1
[14:06:56] cutwater: как-то я не додумался. ну ладно =)
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[14:07:04] cutwater: спасибо
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[14:14:21] webninja: как лучше передать данные формы в левую функцию?
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[14:14:31] webninja: джанго
[14:14:59] erraen is now online
[14:15:04] webninja: или лучше не передавать? прям в форме вызвать?
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[14:19:40] Joes: webninja: как-то вопрос непонятен
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[14:19:54] Joes: что вызывать, куда передавать?
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[14:23:10] webninja: ну я заполняю форму
[14:23:20] webninja: данные оттуда мне нужны в функции
[14:23:25] webninja: нажимаю сабмит
[14:23:25] h3g is now offline
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[14:23:45] webninja: я уже сделал в принципе но мне не нравится. должно быть красивое решение
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[14:23:51] h3g is now xa
[14:23:57] Joes: ну так у тебя есть вьюха, она создает форму
[14:24:03] Joes: которая подчитывает данные с клиента
[14:24:07] webninja: да
[14:24:10] Joes: а) передавай форму куда тебе надо
[14:24:13] umi is now online
[14:24:19] Joes: б) обрабатывай данные в форме, выдавай результат кому надо
[14:24:20] webninja: прям объект?
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[14:24:26] altego is now online
[14:24:41] Joes: скажем удобно делать form.save() и внутри уже логика сохранения формы
[14:24:51] Joes: ну да, объект
[14:24:58] webninja: а если валидацию не проходит?
[14:25:00] erraen is now online
[14:25:05] Joes: ну тогда не передавай.
[14:25:13] piranha: тогда ты не сохраняешь
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[14:25:16] Joes: :-)
[14:25:18] webninja: а ьлчгл
[14:25:22] webninja: !!! точно
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[14:25:50] h3g is now xa
[14:25:52] webninja: хых чето я даже не подумал что можно объект прям передать. а я взял в структуру данные поместил и передал как параметр )
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[15:46:04] gf: http://pastebin.com/b5Y2Qcse
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[15:46:40] gf: хочу чужой rss у себя бегущей строкой выводить..
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[15:46:53] vint21h is now online
[15:47:22] xa4a: ок
[15:47:30] gf: спасибо!
[15:47:32] gf: :)
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[15:47:38] gf: но это решение не работает..
[15:47:46] gf: че я не правильно делаю?
[15:47:47] xa4a: почему?
[15:48:12] gf: запрашиваю /rss, возвращвется пустая страница..
[15:48:30] gf: мне вот тоже хочется знать: почему не работает..
[15:48:44] xa4a: пробовал смотреть сорс?
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[15:49:29] gf: что такое сорс? source?
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[15:49:37] xa4a: да
[15:49:42] xa4a: в сгенернееом html
[15:49:51] gf: пусто.
[15:49:56] gf: вообще ничего.
[15:50:07] gf: [28/Jan/2011 18:50:41] "GET /rss/ HTTP/1.1" 200 5

[15:50:15] erraen is now online
[15:50:20] gf: и ошибки нет..
[15:50:26] gf: куда копать?
[15:50:31] xa4a: pdb
[15:50:36] gf: как продебажит?
[15:50:43] xa4a: 5
[15:50:46] xa4a: 5 xtuj nfv&
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[15:50:49] xa4a: 5 байт в ответе
[15:50:55] xa4a: что там?
[15:51:09] alecs is now online
[15:51:19] xa4a: дебажить - во вьюхе pdb.set_trace()
[15:51:24] wiz: а зачем вообще шаблон, если там только проброс переменной?
[15:51:35] xa4a: и идти туда, за return
[15:51:43] xa4a: прадва оттуда ещё никто не возращался..
[15:52:23] Tony is now online
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[15:52:29] gf: я хочу потом в шаблоне в нужный мне вид оформлять, чтоб js легче было контент размещать на странице..
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[15:54:05] wiz: а урлопен отрабатывает вообще?
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[15:56:37] gf: wiz должен.. я в shell запускаю, работает нормально.
[15:56:55] h3g is now online
[15:56:59] wiz: попробуй там print repr(stuff) воткнуть
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[15:58:20] gf: wiz перед return?
[15:58:26] wiz: lf
[15:58:28] wiz: да
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[16:00:31] gf: в консоль, где runserver запущен, выдало все содержимое ленты..
[16:00:43] gf: xd1\xf2\xe0\xf0\xf2 \xef\xf0\xe5\xe4\xef\xee\xeb\xe0\xe3\xe0\xe5\xf2\xf1\xff \xe2 \xea\xee\xed\xf6\xe5 2011 \xe3\xee\xe4\xe0....</description>\n <author>\xc3\xc8\xd1-\xc0\xf1\xf1\xee\xf6\xe8\xe0\xf6\xe8\xff</author>\n <category>\xc2\xe5\xeb\xe8\xea\xee\xe1\xf0\xe8\xf2\xe0\xed\xe8\xff</category>\n <pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 06:19:27 +0400</pubDate>\n </item>\n \n </channel>\n</rss>\n'
[28/Jan/2011 19:01:13] "GET /rss/ HTTP/1.1" 200 5
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[16:01:18] gf: это последние несколько строк..
[16:01:38] wiz: aaaa
[16:01:44] wiz: {{ rss|safe }}
[16:02:16] gf: ппц..
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[16:06:13] gf: [28/Jan/2011 19:07:45] "GET /rss/ HTTP/1.1" 200 1 - и снова пусто..
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[16:09:46] xa4a: pdb
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[16:14:59] wiz: {{ rss|safe }}
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[16:18:50] gf: wiz если rss заменить на мою переменную, то не работает.. {% autoescape off %} тоже не работает..
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[16:20:05] wiz: а попробуй перед ретурном написать screw(that)
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[16:24:59] gf: global name 'screw' is not defined
и гугль про такой модуль ничего не знает..
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[16:31:11] xa4a: pdb?
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[16:32:04] wiz: gf, дык а в трейсе то что?
[16:32:13] wiz: там же и локалы видны и вся фигня
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[16:34:04] gf: я до сего момента еще не юзал pdb.. пытаюсь понять то за зверь..
[16:34:06] gf: http://pastebin.com/UebtNUYf
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[16:38:07] gf: -> return render_to_response('rss.html', {'response': response,}, RequestContext(request))
(Pdb) render_to_response('rss.html', {'response': response,}, RequestContext(request))
<django.http.HttpResponse object at 0x884894c>
[16:38:25] gf: бля, но я же read() выполнил..
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[16:38:50] gf: я ваще нихрена уже не понимаю.. :(
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[16:48:48] webninja: а чем рсс читаешь?
[16:49:31] webninja: я юзал фидпарсер
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[16:49:39] webninja: !g feedparser
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[16:50:12] webninja: xd1\xf2\xe0\xf0 а вот это дерьмо судя по всему юникод
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[16:58:55] gf: webninja сеньк, помогло!
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[16:59:50] webninja: хех я полезен (!!!)
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[17:03:30] gf: webninja да, твоя жызнь не напрасна! :)
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[18:33:39] Typhon: про риак в СФ говорят же :) http://lionet.livejournal.com/81903.html
[18:34:20] nmk: дооо
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[18:34:32] nmk: но мне интересно в разрезе питона :)
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[18:35:37] nmk: хотя. наверное нет. наверное мне просто интересно узнать что riak кроме lionet кто-нибудь испольузует :)
[18:35:58] Typhon: этот использует, хаскеллист-стартапер, кажется
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[18:36:15] Typhon: http://www.serpentine.com/blog/2011/01/28/so-i-went-and-started-a-company/
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[18:37:57] xa4a: пятница же
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[18:42:24] Typhon: через ssh пушишь?
[18:42:43] Typhon: и вообще, удачные пуши уже были или нет?
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[18:42:51] Typhon: если были, то может бб тупит, он любит
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[18:44:46] quasiyoke: пробую
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[19:20:10] bobry: товарищи, конференция канеш не та — но давно code.haskell.org лежит?
[19:20:35] _lorien: а я себе плагинную систему навелосипед заместо сигналов в джанге :) http://dumpz.org/30055/
[19:20:52] bobry: о, вот что еще хотел спросить про жангу
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[19:21:07] bobry: как вы относитесь к формам принимающим request?
[19:21:24] !tmp~: _lorien, прочитал как "нановелосипед"
[19:21:36] Typhon: bobry: ну они ж там переделывали всё, может и это спрятали куда
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[19:21:54] _lorien: bobry: я отрицательно отношусь
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[19:22:06] bobry: Typhon, да вот чета не нашел официальных объявлений
[19:22:08] _lorien: стараюсь решить проблему как-то иначе, например, во вьюшке
[19:22:09] bobry: _lorien, аргументы?
[19:22:23] _lorien: сильно размазывается логика :)
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[19:22:32] nmk: bobry: я норм отношусь. но мне вообще не нравится в джаге, что реквест идет в каждую вьху
[19:22:35] bobry: а если при этом вся логика в форме?
[19:22:37] _lorien: а так формы более-менее остаются простыми и понятными
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[19:22:47] nmk: _lorien: в смысле размазывается? какая разница что-то из реквеста ты передаешь или весь реквест?
[19:22:50] bobry: nmk, thread locals лучше? :)
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[19:22:53] _lorien: ну хз, надо конкретный пример смотреть
[19:23:08] nmk: bobry: ну, а почему нет?
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[19:23:25] _lorien: nmk: мне нравится, когда всё просто, когда форма принимает простые данные, а не сложный объект request
[19:23:26] bobry: не знаю, явное лучше неявного и все такое
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[19:23:38] _lorien: потом появится соблазн из реквеста брать куки, авторизованного юзверя и т.д.
[19:24:10] nmk: bobry: ну, а вот во flask это из коробки так, это считается явным? :)
[19:24:24] _lorien: а так если надо форму с юзверем, то я подготоваливаю instance = SomeObject(user=request.user) и её передаю в ModelForm через аргумент instance
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[19:25:08] bobry: nmk, ну меня это слегка смущает, я в pylons коде много абьюза видел, когда реквест импортировали в модели / utils etc
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[19:26:46] nmk: bobry: типа что бы реквест в вьюхе просто дисциплинировал? :)
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[19:27:13] bobry: ну да, хороший интерфейс просто исключает возможность абьюза
[19:27:15] bobry: imo
[19:27:19] bobry: хороший API в том числе
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[19:27:43] nmk: ну ок. смотри. форма без вьюхи существовать не может, так что смело передавай реквест :)
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[19:28:06] bobry: ну у такого подхода есть как минимум один очевидный минус
[19:28:13] bobry: формы сложно тестировать
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[19:28:58] !tmp~: чуть ли не первый нормальный аргумент
[19:29:01] nmk: ну, а вьюхи ты тестируешь?
[19:29:14] bobry: nmk, sure
[19:29:18] bobry: !tmp~, присоединяйся
[19:29:27] nmk: их не сложно тестировать? :)
[19:29:38] !tmp~: bobry, мне мешает вселенских масштабов лень
[19:29:41] bobry: nmk, assertResponse?
[19:29:44] nmk: или ты сначала тестишь все что есть во вьюхе, а потом саму вьюху?
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[19:30:05] bobry: ну все компоненты должны быть протестированы независимо
[19:30:08] bobry: формы в том числе
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[19:30:34] nmk: ну. создай фейковый реквест и гони его в формы эти
[19:31:04] bobry: да, это решение — но стоит ли оно того. если я там в форме юзаю user, session, messages w\e
[19:31:13] bobry: тогда надо на фейковый реквест тучу всего навешивать
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[19:32:31] !tmp~: bobry, делай так, как тебе будет удобнее поддерживать
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[19:33:25] bobry: плохая мотивация, я не один работаю
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[19:34:08] nmk: так это. а RequestFactory разве не дает тебе request?
[19:34:22] !tmp~: bobry, делай так, как будет другим удобнее поддерживать /me пожал плечами
[19:34:41] !tmp~: как будет удобнее поддерживать тому, кто будет поддерживать
[19:34:51] bobry: nmk, о чем это ты?
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[19:36:24] h3g: зачем тестить форму отдельно от вьюхи в которой она используется? достаточно протестить вьюху при помощи django-webtest, не?
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[19:36:51] bobry: h3g, как зачем? а зачем тестить модели отдельно?
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[19:36:57] bobry: и убежал :)
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[19:37:53] nmk: bobry: да я ищу. помню, что читал.
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[19:38:26] nmk: а. это про 1.3
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[19:38:45] bobry: а, а то я чета в http/ глянул — а там такого и нет
[19:39:11] nmk: test.client.RequestFactory
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[19:39:29] nmk: http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/testing/#django.test.client.RequestFactory
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[19:40:20] nmk: а еще на bb что-то джанговский миррор не обновляется
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[19:40:22] bobry: отличное изменение
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[19:44:33] quasiyoke: может кто-то пожалуйста запушить от моей морды репозиторий http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15771774/django-inflect.zip в bitbucket -- Я устал. передам в личку свои реквизиты.
[19:44:56] nmk: quasiyoke: тебе надо самому пройти этот квест ;)
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[19:54:13] nmk: о.. в 1.3 cache изменили наконец-то
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[19:56:25] !tmp~: омг, склонятор что ли?
[19:56:40] nmk: склонятор?
[19:56:41] quasiyoke: угу
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[19:57:56] quasiyoke: пока выглядит так, будто работает
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[20:05:54] !tmp~: напилил давно подобный велик другу для диплома. думал, никому такое не нужно, соответственно, и выкладывать не стал
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[20:06:45] quasiyoke: и вы думаете, оно как следует работало?
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[20:07:06] quasiyoke: это по-моему неалгоритмическая задача
[20:07:10] Sevenov: СКЛОНЯТОР
[20:07:13] Sevenov: СКЛОНЯТОР К МИРУ
[20:07:17] Sevenov: ПУТИН
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[20:07:24] Sevenov: МЕДВЕДЕВ
[20:07:32] Sevenov: ИНДУСТРИАЛИЗАЦИЯ
[20:07:36] bobry: СЕВЕНОВ
[20:07:39] quasiyoke: даже у яндекса-то оно не работает
[20:07:47] bobry: СКЛОНЯТОР СЕВЕНОВ!
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[20:08:09] Sevenov: Емнип, pytils склоняет.
[20:08:21] quasiyoke: нет
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[20:08:32] nmk: Sevenov: о.. привет. вот скажи мне, у тебя на моем круге написано, что ты riak знаешь. ты его юзал в каком-нибудь реальном проекте?
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[20:09:05] Sevenov: nmk, не-а.
[20:09:10] Sevenov: не приходилось
[20:09:23] nmk: ну. я разочарован. :)
[20:09:26] Sevenov: алко, котап говорит, что риак уже не торт и пошел не в ту степь
[20:09:33] quasiyoke: Sevenov, он выбирает для числительного слово 21 кот 2 кота 5 котов
[20:09:37] Sevenov: Он вроде как контрибутил
[20:09:48] Sevenov: quasiyoke, я понял, pytils
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[20:10:24] quasiyoke: Sevenov, да, pytils. и всех котов на вход просит
[20:10:27] Sevenov: Хм. Опечатка "алко" рядом с "котап", в принципе, в тему.
[20:10:32] bobry: :D
[20:10:35] Sevenov: quasiyoke, правильно делает.
[20:10:39] nmk: Sevenov: ну, может котаповская степь они и не моя степь. но я пока из riakа скорости не выжал. а новый этот С++шный protobuff у меня падает
[20:10:59] Sevenov: quasiyoke, как твоё склонит "5 Джигурда" ?
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[20:11:33] Sevenov: nmk, я риак уже год, наверное, не тыкал.
[20:11:42] quasiyoke: Sevenov, у яндекса для всех семьвосемь-поулярных слов есть опыт
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[20:12:04] quasiyoke: sevenov, если их склонятор обучающийся конечно и сделан как я думаю
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[20:13:04] quasiyoke: sevenov, моё с числительными не работает и просто кеширует ответы яндекса, а вообще подробней смотрите пока http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15771774/django-inflect.zip
[20:13:21] !tmp~: а я не думал, мое засасывало результаты из яндекса и кешировало их в базу (:
[20:13:24] !tmp~: вооо
[20:13:28] !tmp~: the same shit
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[20:13:48] Sevenov: quasiyoke, кочять какой-то zip - не ъ. Запили куда нибудь типа гитхаба/бб.
[20:13:57] !tmp~: Sevenov, хэй!
[20:14:09] Sevenov: !tmp~, хээээй
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[20:14:49] bobry: бб рядом с гитхабом в одном предложении не прилично ставить
[20:15:04] !tmp~: bobry, ТС! ты сделал это!
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[20:15:08] Sevenov: Потсоны, раскожите мне такое вот: почему на хабре минус к комменту сопровождается с минусом в карму, а плюсы нет?
Это делает мне бобо.
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[20:15:23] Sevenov: bobry, да-да, тред piranha на хабре про бзр :3
[20:15:24] bobry: не сопровождается он
[20:16:11] quasiyoke: sevenov, не могу. что-то с руками. и из головы что-то торчит. надеюсь, нос, но не уверен.
[20:16:15] Sevenov: > У битбакета есть огромный плюс: халявные закрытые репозитории.

Такое мог написать только русский.
[20:16:19] Sevenov: халява
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[20:16:44] bobry: у локальных репозиторев есть огромный плюс — они халявные и закрытые
[20:16:46] Sevenov: quasiyoke,
hg init
hg push ssh://hg@bitbucket.com/username/repo
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[20:17:06] Sevenov: ну, ci -aM забыл
[20:17:09] Sevenov: УЧИ ДОКИ
[20:17:20] quasiyoke: Zip, Кстате уже содержит репо
[20:17:21] bobry: у гитхаба же $5/m или $7/m — не большие деньги йома
[20:17:22] Sevenov: bobry, и неограниченное кол-во.
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[20:17:28] !tmp~: сижу на работе, готовлю деплой
на низкой зарплате разраб молодой
мой бедный товарищ, открыв cvs,
с отчаяньем силится вмержить свой тест
по лексике слышно - не дать ему гит
и завтра он все же от нас убежит
вот сильно за полночь, клиент уже спит
товарищ по виду почти что убит
релизом не пахнет, будь проклят тот день
когда мне взбрело изучить похапень
[20:17:28] bobry: ага, бонус
[20:17:34] !tmp~: всю возможную херню в одном произведении собрал, не?)
[20:17:38] quasiyoke: и локально достаточно поработал со ртутью
[20:17:42] Sevenov: bobry, "русский нищеброд". Нужно было так написать, ага.
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[20:18:20] Sevenov: !tmp~, это трава )
[20:18:25] !tmp~: Sevenov, не употребляю
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[20:18:38] Sevenov: !tmp~, ты ее производишь.
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[20:18:49] !tmp~: ну, метафорически, да :B
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[20:20:40] quasiyoke: чем https://bitbucket.org/account/ могут не устраивать паблик-ключи, сгенеренные puttygen
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[20:21:25] quasiyoke: http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/BITBUCKET/Using+SSH+to+Access+your+Bitbucket+Repository и проч. прочитано
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[20:22:03] Sevenov: > putty
-_-"
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[20:22:59] Sevenov: quasiyoke, юзай тогда https://bitbucket.org/username/repo
[20:23:02] Sevenov: не ssh
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[20:25:09] quasiyoke: это было первым, что я попробовал.
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[21:38:56] bomboosMan: Привет всем
[21:38:59] bomboosMan: Дайте голос
[21:39:01] bobry: ага, йо
[21:39:03] bobry: уже
[21:39:21] bomboosMan: Радует
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[21:40:31] bomboosMan: Кто-нибудь под линуксом кодит?
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[21:41:39] bobry: спрашивай сразу :)
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[21:42:51] bomboosMan: функция input() должна выводит окошко с полем ввода верно?
[21:43:00] _lorien: нет
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[21:43:15] _lorien: !g python input
[21:43:27] Sevenov: bomboosMan'у дали войс, но не мембер же.
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[21:44:16] bomboosMan: PyScripter IDE под win - при запуске кода работает именно так. А через консоль нет
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[21:47:19] bomboosMan: Так как при запуске файла file.py выводить окошко?
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[21:48:20] bobry: bomboosMan, не хочу показаться грубым, но где в документации input() написано что нибудь про окошко?
[21:48:43] bobry: если нужен gui — используй tk который идет из коробки или pygtk / pyqt / wx — что больше нравится
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[21:48:58] bomboosMan: Запрос ввода даных от пользователя
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[21:53:36] bobry: если ты пишешь консольный скрипт то тебе нужен raw_input()
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[21:56:11] bomboosMan: Я пробывал.
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[21:57:01] bobry: и что получилось?
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[21:57:26] bomboosMan: raw_input('текст:')
в консоле выводит:
текст:
>>>
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[21:58:00] bobry: ии? что не так?
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[21:58:33] bomboosMan: А где запрос ввода даных пользователем?
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[21:59:45] bobry: ну все что ты вводишь после текст: будет возвращено raw_input() в виде строки
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[22:01:56] bomboosMan: Листинг. Файл input.py

name = raw_input('name:')
print name
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[22:02:25] bomboosMan: Окно консоли мелькнет и все
[22:02:42] bobry: bomboosMan, ты в виндовзе пишешь или где?
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[22:03:36] bomboosMan: у меня и в линуксе и в винде одна проблема(
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[22:04:44] bomboosMan: есть видео уроки на русском для начинающих?
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[22:05:49] bobry: bomboosMan, для начинающих что?
[22:06:09] bobry: мне кажется стоит начать с какого нибудь туториала по питону
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[22:06:42] bomboosMan: Я английский не знаю
[22:06:50] bomboosMan: 1
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[22:07:31] _lorien: тогда стоит начать с английского :o)
[22:07:42] bomboosMan: 2. Что написано в учебнике у меня с ошибками исполняется
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[22:08:48] bobry: какая версия питона?
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[22:12:49] bobry: и какие именно ошибки
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[22:15:35] bomboosMan: Сделайте меня пользователем конфы плиз?
[22:15:55] bomboosMan: Завтра отпишусь
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