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[02:12:15] : _lorien установил(а) тему: Python.SU | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи на google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | За голосом - в приват к модераторам | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://➡.ws/pu
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[02:38:53] : _lorien установил(а) тему: Python.SU | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи на google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | За голосом - в приват к модераторам | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://➡.ws/pu
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[05:46:32] denger_: что-то у меня project в vim не работает
[05:47:02] denger_: в plugin файл есть, справка есть, а команда :project не пашет
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[05:47:51] gf: denger_ его еще в .vimrc прописать надо..
[05:48:14] denger_: разве? в инструкции не написано
[05:49:26] gf: denger_ если ты об этом: http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=2719
то команды :project там нет..
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[05:49:58] denger_: я о http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=69
[05:50:03] denger_: видимо он вконец устарел
[05:50:05] gf: а с vimrc я попутал.. там только кейбинды для плугинов прописываются..
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[05:51:12] gf: я NERDTree юзаю..
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[07:24:04] gf: ктонить прикручивал форму обратной связи к django?
[07:24:43] gf: не могу догнать, как юзать: http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.2/ref/settings/#std:setting-EMAIL_HOST_PASSWORD
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[07:24:52] gf: все прописал, а почта не уходит..
[07:25:15] gf: как продебажить не соображу..
[07:26:15] gf: EMAIL_HOST = 'smtp.gmail.com'
EMAIL_PORT = 587
EMAIL_HOST_USER = '*********@gmail.com'
EMAIL_HOST_PASSWORD = '************'
EMAIL_USE_TLS = True
EMAIL_SUBJECT_PREFIX = '[Django]'
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[07:39:45] wiz: а можно написать quine-regexp, который матчит только сам себя?..
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[08:00:59] gf: можно.
[08:01:06] gf: но будел ли работать - х.з.
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[09:02:12] deepwalker: а вот как бы так написать командочку ve в баше, чтобы оно искало самый близкий каталог с virtualenv, и активировало его? Я пока только восходящий перебор папок могу предположить
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[09:03:27] bobry: блин, где в гаджиме закладки редактируются?
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[09:05:09] xa4a: deepwalker: с питоном можно просто
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[09:14:18] Paradoxx is now dnd
[09:14:40] Paradoxx: кто-нпривет всем, кто-нибудь юзал QT Designer?
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[09:15:03] xa4a: deepwalker: find ~/.virtualenvs -name bin -depth 2 | cut -d/ -f5 | python2.6 -c "from difflib import get_close_matches as f;import sys; l=f('$WORD', sys.stdin.read().strip().split()); print l and l[0] or ''"
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[09:25:33] Paradoxx: Т.е. на qt никто не писал?
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[09:27:43] Magister Yoda: я
[09:27:48] Magister Yoda: чуть-чуть
[09:27:57] Paradoxx: QT Designer юзал?
[09:27:58] Magister Yoda: но QTD не юзал
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[09:28:03] Paradoxx: эх
[09:28:05] Magister Yoda: пиши руками
[09:28:08] piranha is now don't say this, don't do that, your every move is logged and tracked
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[09:28:17] xa4a: Paradoxx: в чём вопрос?
[09:29:04] Paradoxx: в qtd есть набор базовых виджетов, хотелось бы подключить еще, но под винду найти не могу )
[09:29:32] Paradoxx: нелегок путь разработчика под виндой, столько грабель
[09:29:46] xa4a: нет, не скажу..
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[09:29:54] xa4a: про виджеты
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[09:46:43] RaD: http://dpaste.com/377188/ - не могу строку отформатировать. совсем старый стал блин
[09:47:00] RaD: Paradoxx: напиши свои
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[09:48:11] Paradoxx: RaD: придется
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[09:51:26] RaD: народ, гляньте строчку, реально туплю
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[10:01:42] gf: http://python.su/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4395
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[10:08:14] piranha is now don't say this, don't do that, your every move is logged and tracked
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[10:40:50] mishok13: кложур сука клёвый
[10:41:09] piranha: кто-нить мутт юзает?
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[10:41:14] mishok13: мазохисты
[10:41:23] mishok13: /me смешно пошутил
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[10:41:26] piranha: :)
[10:41:32] mishok13: piranha, ты на европитон поедешь?
[10:41:43] piranha: а когда он будет и где?
[10:42:05] mishok13: во флоренции, в июне
[10:42:12] piranha: поеду тогда надеюсь
[10:42:21] mishok13: http://ep2011.europython.eu/cfp/
[10:42:24] mishok13: сабмить бляха
[10:42:34] mishok13: BAZAAR HATE MERCURIAL LOVE
[10:42:38] piranha: )))
[10:42:40] mishok13: или что-то такое
[10:42:46] piranha: я не уверен в своëм английском :Р
[10:42:48] piranha: серьëзно
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[10:43:12] piranha: 19-26 - точно поеду, даже если я решусь на хеллфест ехать, не пересекается
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[10:43:24] mishok13: а чо быть неуверенным?
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[10:43:47] mishok13: это, вон на PyCon US советуют говорить громче
[10:43:49] _lorien: Linux ip-10-202-21-81 2.6.32-309-ec2 #18-Ubuntu SMP Mon Oct 18 21:00:20 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
это значит что 64-битный линух там?
[10:43:50] piranha: ну, я говорю с таким акцентом, шо ржака
[10:43:54] mishok13: так что зайди и ори на них!
[10:44:03] piranha: кроме того, я по-русски волнуюсь, а по-английски я вапще епанусь
[10:44:10] piranha: да и не, нужна нормальная тема =)
[10:44:21] piranha: я думаю, что на конфах тема dvcs всех заипала
[10:44:51] bobry: piranha, та лана тебе — на pyconua народ ваще не парился
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[10:45:06] bobry: я пару видео пасмарел, уши в трубочку
[10:45:11] bobry: но всем пофик :)
[10:45:14] piranha: bobry: там сидят такие же животные в зале, как мне кажется =)
[10:45:21] bobry: лол
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[10:45:33] mishok13: _lorien, cat /proc/cpuinfo
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[10:46:29] _lorien: $ cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep 64
clflush size : 64
cache_alignment : 64
clflush size : 64
cache_alignment : 64
[10:47:30] mishok13: ох блин, я тебя неправильно понял
[10:47:55] mishok13: нет, у тебя 32-битная версия
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[10:48:04] mishok13: для 64-битной должно показывать x86_64
[10:48:17] _lorien: угу, пасиб
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[10:48:32] piranha: bobry: но в любом случае надо тему придумать нормальную сначала )
[10:49:05] bobry: piranha, выбирай любую кроме nosql / dvsc / twisted / gil
[10:49:12] bobry: *dvcs
[10:49:31] bobry: про сваргу им расскажи, например
[10:49:38] piranha: :)
[10:49:39] bobry: django done right и все такое
[10:49:54] bobry: уверен девы джанги оценят :D
[10:49:56] piranha: рано на такой большой конфе, имхо. Фреймворков-то не так и мало
[10:49:57] piranha: ага
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[10:50:08] piranha: mishok13: я и на джангоконф собираюсь, пушо оно будет в амстердаме :)
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[10:52:56] wiz_: piranha, а когда?
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[10:53:22] piranha: 6-10
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[10:53:32] piranha: конфа 6-8, спринты 9-10
[10:53:34] piranha: http://djangocon.eu/
[10:54:10] bobry: февраля?
[10:54:26] piranha: не, тоже июня
[10:54:33] piranha: совсем пацаны охренели, всë в одно время :(
[10:54:57] piranha: http://www.hellfest.fr/
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[10:55:03] piranha: мля, я протупил, как раз пересекается :(((
[10:55:07] wiz_: пля, надо отпуск передвинуть на июнь (8
[10:55:17] piranha: теперь придëтся думать, кого ж посещать
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[10:55:48] piranha: шо лучше - роб зомби и кавалера конспираси или гвидо ван россум и ян бикинг? )
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[10:56:17] mishok13: зависит от того, кто раньше умрёт
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[10:56:55] wiz_: бикинг няшней
[10:57:08] bobry: вот ты жеский — что за ретро, роб зомби
[10:57:14] bobry: пацаны уже такое не слушают
[10:57:44] mishok13: токио хотел фтв
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[10:58:01] bobry: да, слушайте имо йома
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[10:58:23] bobry: moss icon ftw \m/
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[10:58:36] mishok13: http://www.wikihow.com/Be-a-Hipster
[10:59:29] mishok13: читайте и запоминайте
[10:59:41] bobry: /me слушайет часть этих групп ...
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[11:05:06] piranha: bobry: роб зомби отличный патсан
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[11:05:48] piranha: bobry: http://www.lastfm.ru/user/p1r4nh4/charts?rangetype=overall&subtype=artists
[11:05:53] piranha: сматри, до сих пор на 6 месте
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[11:06:26] piranha: mishok13: оу, да какая похер разница. У меня тут чувак знакомый начал парить, что ехать тупо, потому что там будут тупые стариканы типа оззи, и даже кавалера не спасает.
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[11:06:37] piranha: но это какая-то ущербная логика, я ж могу и не смотреть на оззи
[11:07:23] mishok13: ну ты и агрессивную музыку слушаешь
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[11:08:19] Typhon: в nl же летом http://www.summerdarkness.nl/festival/ !
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[11:08:33] piranha: mishok13: хочу убить всех человеков, ага
[11:08:43] piranha: постой, это кмфдм агрессивная или фанкер вогт?
[11:08:56] piranha: (по поводу других претензий нет :))
[11:09:22] Typhon: фанкер вогт милитаристы!
[11:10:00] piranha: да, но там музыка не агрессивная
[11:10:06] piranha: это не комбикрайст и не соулфлай
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[11:10:33] Typhon: это не ambassador21 ^_____^
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[11:10:52] mishok13: да вы же ебанутые!
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[11:11:16] Typhon: отнюдь!
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[11:11:22] piranha: mishok13: а ты шо, леди гагу слушаешь?!
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[11:11:36] mishok13: http://www.lastfm.ru/user/mishok13/charts?rangetype=overall&subtype=artists
[11:11:42] piranha: я так и подумал сразу, когда увидел твою добрую бородатую морду, ага
[11:11:42] mishok13: если так интересно
[11:11:55] piranha: ничо се
[11:11:57] Typhon: бисти бойз, ня!
[11:12:01] bobry: Твоя музыкальная совместимость с mishok13 ОЧЕНЬ НИЗКАЯ
[11:12:02] bobry: :(
[11:12:03] piranha: лед зеппелин для меня слишком напряжное
[11:12:09] mishok13: я блюз люблю
[11:12:19] piranha: Вас объединяет любовь к Bloodhound Gang, The Prodigy, A Perfect Circle, Basement Jaxx и Tricky.
[11:12:24] piranha: очень высокая, ггг
[11:12:30] bobry: piranha, какой у тебя ник?
[11:12:31] mishok13: бгыгы
[11:12:45] piranha: bobry: та я ж выше там кинул :) p1r4nh4
[11:12:46] Typhon: bobry: у него сложный
[11:12:47] bobry: ага
[11:12:50] bobry: модный
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[11:13:01] Typhon: Your musical compatibility with mishok13 is VERY LOWMusic you have in common includes Beastie Boys <http://www.last.fm/user/mishok13/library/music/Beastie+Boys>, The Doors <http://www.last.fm/user/mishok13/library/music/The+Doors>, Morcheeba <http://www.last.fm/user/mishok13/library/music/Morcheeba>, Four Tet <http://www.last.fm/user/mishok13/library/music/Four+Tet> and The Herbaliser <http://www.last.fm/user/mishok13/library/music/The+Herbaliser>
[11:13:07] Typhon: блять!
[11:13:12] piranha: йеах, контр страйк и всë такое
[11:13:15] bobry: лол, piranha — у нас с тобой ни одного общего исполнителя :D
[11:13:16] mishok13: что же ты делаешь, подонок!
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[11:13:22] piranha: bobry: дай сцылку
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[11:13:39] bobry: www.last.fm/user/bobry
[11:13:47] Typhon: bobry: Your musical compatibility with bobry is HIGH
[11:13:56] piranha: mishok13: ты шо, слушаешь этот убогий последний альбом бладхаунда? :(
[11:13:57] bobry: ohshoot
[11:14:01] piranha: Твоя музыкальная совместимость с bobry ОЧЕНЬ НИЗКАЯ
[11:14:02] piranha: =)
[11:14:05] mishok13: piranha, вроде как слушал
[11:14:07] mishok13: когда вышел
[11:14:12] mishok13: но чото как-то мэ
[11:14:17] piranha: та дерьмо, я даже удалил
[11:14:27] piranha: просто я у тебя в последних прослушанных песню увидел оттуда
[11:14:33] mishok13: да?
[11:14:38] mishok13: у меня дома рандом на всё
[11:14:39] piranha: bobry: канешна ни одного общего, роб зомби если не слушать!
[11:14:43] piranha: http://www.lastfm.ru/music/Bloodhound+Gang/_/Going+Nowhere+Slow
[11:14:45] piranha: вот эту
[11:14:45] bobry: :D
[11:14:48] mishok13: поэтому там может и лэди гага и бейонси проскакивать
[11:14:50] piranha: ой, я тупой
[11:14:52] piranha: это ж из первого
[11:15:03] piranha: mishok13: хахахаха леди гага я знааааал
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[11:15:15] mishok13: ну я же почти женатый человек
[11:15:28] piranha: если ты подумал, что это тебя извиняет или оправдывает, то ты ошибся
[11:15:29] piranha: ;D
[11:15:31] bobry: :D
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[11:16:03] mishok13: http://www.lastfm.ru/user/mishok13/charts?rangetype=3month&subtype=artists <-- тут палева нету!
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[11:16:53] Typhon: кидайте ссылки на last.fm , без .ru, пожалуйста! .ru у меня красный и незалогиненный!
[11:16:58] mishok13: щас
[11:17:10] piranha: http://www.last.fm/user/p1r4nh4/charts?rangetype=overall&subtype=artists
[11:17:12] piranha: ой
[11:17:27] Typhon: http://www.last.fm/music/Monday%D1%9A%D1%94%C2%A4%D0%91%C2%A4%D0%BB -- хорошая группа?
[11:17:28] piranha: http://www.last.fm/user/p1r4nh4/charts?rangetype=3month&subtype=artists
[11:17:29] piranha: ваще найс
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[11:18:06] mishok13: Typhon, лол
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[11:18:23] piranha: :)
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[11:21:32] bobry: Typhon, ты слушаешь чуваков с tympanik audio?
[11:21:51] Typhon: bobry: да, потому что они охуенны ^_^ лучший лейбл 2010, пожалуй.
[11:22:01] bobry: ооо!
[11:22:12] bobry: согласен на все сто :)
[11:22:34] MAVr is now Да, я тут
[11:22:38] Typhon: между прочим, zeller на этих выходных будет в нерезиновой. и в питере, в пятницу, кажется
[11:23:21] bobry: блин, я его не слышал — но теги возбуждают
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[11:23:54] bobry: к вам scornа привозят :(
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[11:29:27] mishok13: PGresult *result=PQexec(conn_,sql.c_str());
...
PGresult *result = 0;

[11:29:29] mishok13: пиздец
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[11:30:19] mishok13: и блять весь код вот такой вот ад -- скок-перескок-k&r-bsd-allman-gnu
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[11:31:28] tilarids: что это?
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[11:31:47] mishok13: это -- пиздец
[11:31:53] mishok13: точнее, опенсорсный код
[11:32:16] piranha is now don't say this, don't do that, your every move is logged and tracked
[11:32:49] tilarids: название?
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[11:33:37] mishok13: Mapnik
[11:34:18] tilarids: печально
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[11:36:56] _lorien: Кто-нить работал с cybersource (pyament processor)? Какой вы метод юзали?
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[11:45:39] bobry: <3 js
[11:46:00] bobry: >>> x = [1,2,3]
[1, 2, 3]
>>> x.length = 1
1
>>> x
[1]
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[11:47:06] nmk: а..
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[11:47:29] tilarids: кстати, если уж напомнили. кто что юзает для контроля качества кода на JS? JSLint или еще что-то есть? JSLint вообще терпим в большим проектах? на чем пишете юниты для JS? А функциональные тесты?
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[11:47:54] bobry: tilarids, речь о client side коде?
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[11:48:13] tilarids: bobry, да, гуй на джаваскрипте
[11:48:18] bobry: помимо js lint есть linter от гугла — closure linter, проверяет код на соответствие гугловскому стайл гайду
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[11:49:38] bobry: тесты на клиентский js код я пока не писал, только щупал qunit
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[11:49:54] tilarids: так а jslint нормальный, юзабельный? Можно ли начинать проект на js, используя jslint и надеясь, что он обеспечит достаточный уровень статической проверки, и при этом не задолбит мозг?
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[11:50:19] bobry: для статических проверок удобно использовать closure compiler кстати
[11:50:25] bobry: только придется везде типы указывать
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[11:50:47] bobry: jslint ловит только тривиальные вещи, var забыл, точку с запятой не поставил итп
[11:51:09] bobry: ну и на мой взгляд требования крокфорда слегка неадекватные
[11:51:12] bobry: хотя это дело вкуса
[11:51:22] tilarids: closure compiler!
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[11:51:26] tilarids: это то, что я искал :)
[11:51:29] bobry: :)
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[11:51:33] tilarids: надо посмотреть внимательней на него
[11:51:35] bobry: congrats
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[11:51:51] bobry: можешь тогда и closure library сразу оприходовать
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[11:53:35] tilarids: как я удачно спросил. compiler - это то, что нужно
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[11:53:45] tilarids: теперь мне почти не страшно
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[11:55:28] bobry: tilarids, ну если ты готов писать везде аннотации
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[11:55:45] bobry: для __всех__ переменных / функций / методов
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[11:55:59] tilarids: я то готов. Осталось убедить коллег
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[11:56:32] tilarids: можно ведь сначала писать прототип быстренько и без тестов, потом прогонять его через компилер, уже с аннотациями?
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[11:56:47] bobry: можно
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[11:59:56] tilarids: я надеюсь, closure library может использоваться вне броузера?
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[12:02:17] tilarids: жесть, мне оно уже нравится. Хочу такое для питона
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[12:17:49] _lorien: вот думаю добавить ещё в sr простеньий поиск файлов
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[12:19:30] deepwalker: это как?
[12:19:37] deepwalker: типа еще и find заменить?
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[12:35:29] denger_: по виму подскажите. Надо, чтобы для питоновских файлов был expandtab, а для остальных - нет
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[12:36:31] denger_: а то на работе один стиль кодирования (js, html) а для питона я использую другой
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[12:37:56] _lorien: да заменить find, чтобы писать sr -f result.xml и он опа-опа нашёл файли, ни есссно регекспы там будут работать
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[12:38:13] _lorien: и ещё шобы -f и -s флаги можно было вместе юзать
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[12:39:59] xa4a: denger_: autocmd FileType python expandtab
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[12:44:04] denger_: прямо так и написать в конфиге?
[12:44:06] bobry: нафига делать ~~[].indexOf(el) в js?
[12:44:07] bobry: в чем магия?
[12:44:16] bobry: я еще могу понять просто ~, но двойной
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[12:46:15] denger_: работает, только надо autocmd FileType python set expandtab
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[12:48:47] cutwater: я вообще в папку filetype кладу python.vim
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[12:48:54] cutwater: где пишу setlocal expandtab etc.
[12:49:16] cutwater: ftplugin точней
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[12:49:36] cutwater: % cat ~/.vim/ftplugin/ruby.vim
setlocal tabstop=2
setlocal softtabstop=2
setlocal shiftwidth=2

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[13:01:06] bobry: о черт, как же это заразительно http://dumpz.org/30665/
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[13:03:40] Tony: кто solr + haystack нормально ковырял?
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[13:05:55] cutwater: привет товарищи
[13:06:02] cutwater: ну что я вам могу сказать, работать питонером круто
[13:06:11] bobry: cutwater, иде работаешь? :)
[13:06:31] cutwater: да тут местная компания, маленькая =)
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[13:07:15] cutwater: правда всегда и везде будут костыли на костылях и костылями погонятют
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[13:17:00] xa4a: хм. никто в нокии не работает?
[13:17:41] _lorien: я звоню в нокии :)
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[13:17:50] _lorien: а, ты про фирму :)
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[13:18:57] Sevenov: гг.
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[13:23:27] Constantin Slednev: Sevenov хело
[13:23:31] cutwater: скажите, а что вы думаете по поводу андроидных девайсов?
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[13:24:29] Constantin Slednev: cutwater айтелефон лучше (сравнивали)
[13:24:37] cutwater: бгг
[13:24:39] cutwater: чем?
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[13:24:48] Constantin Slednev: всем
[13:24:52] Constantin Slednev: чусслово
[13:24:54] cutwater: нет ну правда
[13:24:56] Constantin Slednev: чесслово
[13:25:01] cutwater: я понимаю есть фанаты и того и другого
[13:25:05] Constantin Slednev: заряда хватает в 20 раз больше
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[13:25:19] cutwater: вот прямо таки в 20 раз?
[13:25:23] Constantin Slednev: в общем :) нужно попробывать что бы понять
[13:25:23] mishok13: шо
[13:25:26] cutwater: нет ну правда?
[13:25:27] cutwater: :-D
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[13:25:47] Constantin Slednev: у брата андройд
[13:25:52] Constantin Slednev: у меня 4й айтелефон
[13:25:56] Constantin Slednev: он после двух недель
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[13:26:00] mishok13: oh, anecdotal evidence
[13:26:06] Constantin Slednev: заплакал и сказал что хочет айтелефон такой же как у меня
[13:26:07] mishok13: это крутой аргумент
[13:26:32] Ildar: Constantin Slednev: зря
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[13:26:42] cutwater: :-D
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[13:26:47] cutwater: Constantin Slednev: а ты модельку скажи?
[13:26:51] Ildar: вообще телефон не для игр
[13:26:54] cutwater: вот просто ради любопытства
[13:26:58] Constantin Slednev: cutwater кого ?
[13:27:06] cutwater: андроид это ОС
[13:27:12] cutwater: айтелефон это девайс
[13:27:18] cutwater: ты сравниваешь жопу с пальцем, не?
[13:27:25] Constantin Slednev: ):
[13:27:25] ormaturi: ))
[13:27:26] Ildar: афон 4ж ток дизом хорош :)
[13:27:27] Constantin Slednev: :)
[13:27:34] Constantin Slednev: он не 4ж
[13:27:35] cutwater: чтобы выглядеть более менее убедительно, укажи хотя бы конкретную модель
[13:27:36] Constantin Slednev: он просто 4
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[13:27:48] Ildar: китайский чтоль?
[13:27:59] Constantin Slednev: да мне как то в андройдотелефонах копаться желания нет и небыло ,)
[13:28:01] Constantin Slednev: неееее
[13:28:07] xa4a: Constantin Slednev: ты зомби
[13:28:11] Ildar: оригинал ?
[13:28:21] Ildar: или хорошая китайская потделка?:)
[13:28:35] ormaturi: то есть по дизу айтрубке среди андроидных смартов не найдется достойный ответ? я бы поспорил...
[13:28:39] Constantin Slednev: у него htc desire
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[13:28:52] xa4a: ormaturi: на вкус и цвет
[13:28:57] Constantin Slednev: ormaturi канечноже нет!!
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[13:29:04] ormaturi: пффф...
[13:29:11] cutwater: ладно, мне вот больше любопытно тот же HTC Desire Z взять
[13:29:16] cutwater: с кверти клавиатурой
[13:29:37] Ildar: нафиг с кверти?
[13:29:40] Constantin Slednev: cutwater тут продают htc desire за 15р
[13:29:44] Ildar: сенсорный прикольней же
[13:29:58] ormaturi: вообще дизайр и сенсорный и плюс полноценная кверти
[13:29:59] cutwater: Ildar: дык сенсорная тоже есть
[13:30:05] cutwater: но и хардварная кверти
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[13:30:22] Ildar: вообще бред эти телефоны :)
[13:30:29] Ildar: я с моторолой л9 хожу и норм
[13:30:32] Ildar: свонит и ладно
[13:30:34] Ildar: звонит*
[13:30:36] Sevenov: А я поддерживаю Constantin Slednev. Говно эти ваши HTC. Зачем нужен девайс, который жрёт энергии как электромобиль? Да и писать для iPhone приятнее, и рынок приложений есть.
[13:30:37] cutwater: Ildar: ну ваще бред. мне и Nokia 6300 хватает, звони, смски пишет
[13:30:38] Constantin Slednev: Ildar +1
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[13:31:03] cutwater: просто под рукой иметь мобильный девайс таки может быть даже удобно
[13:31:08] Constantin Slednev: Sevenov ты где есть то ??
[13:31:15] ormaturi: то есть гугль маркет закрыли?
[13:31:22] cutwater: ну и вообще хочу ж понять от чего так народ тащится от этих смартов
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[13:31:37] xa4a: cutwater: на них прикольно играться
[13:31:38] xa4a: наверна
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[13:31:45] cutwater: э... ну мне игры не нужны
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[13:31:55] Ildar: игграть надо на psp
[13:32:00] Ildar: дешевле и удобней :)
[13:32:12] xa4a: psp не нужен. если играть - bajy
[13:32:14] xa4a: jy to` b pdjybn
[13:32:15] ormaturi: эклипс с полноценным SDK для разработки приложений под андрюшу тоже выпилили???
[13:32:18] Constantin Slednev: Ildar на ападе надо
[13:32:31] Ildar: Constantin Slednev: ну если ты мажор то да
[13:32:33] ormaturi: потребление энергии так же регулируется очень просто
[13:32:42] Constantin Slednev: Ildar О_________о а это тут причем ??
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[13:32:52] Constantin Slednev: Ildar он не так уж и дожуя стоит
[13:32:53] wiz_: а что, айфона на сильно больше хватает?
[13:32:54] mishok13: сравнивать псп и ифон это эээ
[13:32:56] Ildar: Constantin Slednev: у тя есть 40к на эту хрень?
[13:33:03] Constantin Slednev: Ildar на новый год дед мороз может подарить
[13:33:08] Constantin Slednev: Ildar 19р
[13:33:10] mishok13: можно еще иксбокс или пс3 с нинтендо вии сравнить
[13:33:12] Constantin Slednev: откуда 40 ??
[13:33:20] Ildar: Constantin Slednev: откуда 19 0_о
[13:33:27] Constantin Slednev: ипать
[13:33:28] Constantin Slednev: щя
[13:33:31] mishok13: где это ифоны по 600 баксов?
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[13:34:22] ormaturi: чаще всего завышенное потребление заряда батареи у андроид смартов связано с огромным количеством виджетов. которые просто не дают телефону засыпать... достаточно несколько раз помониторить список процессов через сервисные меню, увидеть, что по статистике не дает телефону засыпать - убрать данные процессы, и жить по 4 суток с одного заряда
[13:34:29] Constantin Slednev: http://cl.ly/4Ku1
[13:34:36] Ildar: оо
[13:34:43] Ildar: внатруе
[13:34:45] Constantin Slednev: но я покупал за 19
[13:34:47] Ildar: 19к
[13:34:54] Ildar: сори я думал дороже :)
[13:35:00] Constantin Slednev: это без 3г
[13:35:12] Constantin Slednev: а 64гб + 3г и будет 40р
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[13:35:17] Constantin Slednev: но оно точно не нужно
[13:35:20] Constantin Slednev: у меня айтелефон с 16гб
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[13:35:33] Ildar: а нафиг тело такое без 3ж?
[13:35:34] Constantin Slednev: я за пол года написал туда только 10гб
[13:35:42] Constantin Slednev: вайфай есть
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[13:35:47] Constantin Slednev: 3г медленный
[13:35:55] Constantin Slednev: 3г приколен если есть колеса и яндекспробки
[13:35:59] Constantin Slednev: и все
[13:36:02] Ildar: яб себе бук купил лучше :)
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[13:36:11] Constantin Slednev: да
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[13:36:20] Constantin Slednev: я хотел себе макбук
[13:36:28] Constantin Slednev: но мне на работе дали в пользование макбукпро
[13:36:31] Constantin Slednev: очень круто
[13:36:34] Constantin Slednev: советую ребят!
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[13:37:08] Constantin Slednev: заменили убунту и дебиан на макос
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[13:37:12] Constantin Slednev: с 1го января )))
[13:37:20] Constantin Slednev: цена вопроса 40р
[13:37:21] Ildar: те лет то скоко?
[13:37:25] Constantin Slednev: удовольствия на все 100
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[13:37:47] Ildar: и где живешь?
[13:37:58] Constantin Slednev: зачем тебе так много знать ?
[13:38:08] Ildar: чтоб с ценапи определиться
[13:38:15] Ildar: ценами*
[13:38:24] Constantin Slednev: 24 москва
[13:38:31] Ildar: ну тогда понятно
[13:38:35] Ildar: там зарплаты здоровые
[13:38:38] Constantin Slednev: и что понятно ?
[13:38:40] Constantin Slednev: О_о
[13:38:45] Ildar: я за 40к себе машину куплю :)
[13:38:45] Constantin Slednev: неправ
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[13:38:54] Constantin Slednev: а ты откуда ?
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[13:39:00] Ildar: Томск
[13:39:07] Constantin Slednev: приезжай ко мне в москву
[13:39:14] Constantin Slednev: у меня как раз есть вакансия на питон
[13:39:15] Ildar: давай ты ко мне :)
[13:39:23] Constantin Slednev: не, я в Минск хочу
[13:39:28] Ildar: офис откроешь :)
[13:39:29] Constantin Slednev: но там зарплаты совсем мизерные
[13:39:32] Ildar: все кул будет
[13:39:49] Constantin Slednev: как открою, так и закорю
[13:39:53] Constantin Slednev: ;закрою
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[13:40:14] Constantin Slednev: :)
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[13:40:16] Ildar: :)
[13:40:21] Ildar: отправь мне мак любой
[13:40:24] Ildar: я почте
[13:40:30] Ildar: я буду удаленно работать
[13:40:32] Ildar: :)
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[13:41:00] Constantin Slednev: бесплатно ?
[13:41:02] Ildar: .time
[13:41:06] Constantin Slednev: по 12 часов в день ?
[13:41:14] Ildar: как смогу
[13:41:31] Ildar: учеба до 3х :)
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[13:42:31] bobry: ого какие тут беседы
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[13:44:07] mishok13: взрослые, опытные люди беседуют
[13:44:35] Sevenov: Мне в школу сегодня к 15:00
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[13:44:55] Sevenov: через 18 минут математика так не хочу математику математичка дура скоро еге
[13:44:58] mishok13: второсменник
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[13:46:48] Ildar: у меня уже почти 6 часов вечера :))
[13:46:58] Ildar: я ушел буду позже
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[13:49:34] mishok13: хуип 2011 блеа
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[13:51:38] ormaturi: математичка дура :)))
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[13:58:25] ormaturi: почему-то про школу вспомнился старый анекдот - http://paste.org.ru/?y33nqh
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[14:03:33] wiz_: ыыы
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[14:08:17] piranha is now don't say this, don't do that, your every move is logged and tracked
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[14:11:24] nmk: айфоны, хуйфоны. nokia 1202 вот телефон. записную книжку бы получше
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[14:21:55] slav0nic: знает кто-то кто такой h2rd Igor Skrynkovskyy?
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[14:24:09] xa4a: гугл даёт фейсбук, твитор и жуйк
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[14:24:48] nmk: и гитхаб еще
[14:24:51] nmk: пустой
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[14:25:09] nmk: и жж
[14:25:16] Typhon: и линкдин такой же почти :)
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[14:28:54] slav0nic: )ну мало ли, думал мож кто работал
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[14:33:53] slav0nic: сук вот слово РНР в нём пугает, ну лан, поглядим)
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[14:44:30] Paradoxx: вопрос по конструкции классов, я могу использовать в качестве имени функции __init__ для указания принадлежности функции к текущему классу, а если функций в классе более одной, то необходимость в этом отпадает и следует использовать вместо __init__ человеческое имя функции?
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[14:45:56] bobry: Paradoxx, ты о чем вообще?
[14:46:06] mishok13: шо
[14:46:21] Paradoxx: class Math:
def summa(self, a, b):
c = a + b
return c
[14:46:23] mishok13: попробуй разбить на вопросы, в которых меньше 10 слов этот поток мысли
[14:46:55] Paradoxx: ща
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[14:47:18] Paradoxx: вот так верно - http://paste.org.ru/?kkm14z
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[14:47:46] bobry: Paradoxx, туториал читал?
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[14:49:43] nmk: ой
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[14:49:43] cutwater: ох печаль
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[14:49:43] cutwater: Paradoxx: ты вообще знаешь что такое "конструктор" ?
[14:49:43] Paradoxx: читал, но не понимаю для чего в классах используют __init__ в качестве имени функции
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[14:49:43] cutwater: Paradoxx: у в классе ф-ции вообще никак не отражают смысла класса
[14:49:43] cutwater: *у тебя
[14:49:49] cutwater: Paradoxx: __init__ это конструктор
[14:49:54] Typhon: Paradoxx:
[14:49:56] Typhon: Paradoxx: http://docs.python.org/reference/datamodel.html#specialnames
[14:50:03] Paradoxx: лан пойду читать дальше, спс
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[14:50:46] Typhon: cutwater: не совсем конструктор ;-)
[14:50:46] cutwater: Typhon: да о_О
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[14:50:51] cutwater: Typhon: нет ну если говорить о __new__, __init__ и еще куче тонкостей
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[14:51:32] Paradoxx: ясно что смысла нет, я так сказать тренируюсь )
[14:51:32] cutwater: но вообще по смыслу и предназначению это именно конструктор
[14:51:35] cutwater: Paradoxx: а в примере у тебя написан полный ппц
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[14:51:45] Paradoxx: cutwater: зато работает
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[14:51:59] cutwater: Paradoxx: он ничем не отличается от того что если бы ты написал 2 ф-ции без всяких классов
[14:52:09] Paradoxx: cutwater: я понял уже
[14:52:18] cutwater: естественно ты не понимаешь зачем нужен класс
[14:52:20] Typhon: "зато работает" ага, пиздец
[14:52:24] cutwater: result_summa = Math()
print Math.summa(result_summa, a=1, b=2)

print Math.multiply(result_summa, a=1, b=2)

[14:52:28] cutwater: вот это вообще весело
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[14:52:36] cutwater: вызов
[14:52:58] Paradoxx: cutwater: поправь тогда
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[14:53:12] bobry: товарищи, как взвешенные графы ваще в бд хранят? я шота загуглить не могу.
[14:53:15] cutwater: Paradoxx: за тебя учебник перепечатывать?
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[14:53:30] Paradoxx: cutwater: лан я сам )
[14:53:31] cutwater: Paradoxx: можешь кинуть ссылку, откуда ты вычитал такой "пример"
[14:53:46] Paradoxx: cutwater: ниоткуда не вычитал, метод тыка )
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[14:54:14] cutwater: вот так и рождаются быдлокодеры. эх... я в печали
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[14:54:16] cutwater: =(
[14:54:25] Paradoxx: просто хочу разобраться с классами
[14:54:37] nmk: bobry: это тебя в селектеле графами нагружают что-ли? :)
[14:54:51] Paradoxx: cutwater: быдло кодер, ахаха
[14:55:14] Paradoxx: cutwater: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/ru/library/l-python_part_6/
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[14:55:27] bobry: nmk, ага — но тут граф небольшой, его "в принципе" можно как угодно хранить, особой разницы нет. мне для самообразования интересно.
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[14:55:37] nmk: neo4j может?
[14:55:40] Paradoxx: def suda_idi
[14:55:49] Typhon: bobry: две таблицы, nodes, edges, в edges колонки from и to + weight. это то что первым делом приходит :)
[14:55:50] bobry: да не— overkill, тут блин 5 вершин и 6 ребер :)
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[14:55:56] Typhon: или да, graph bd )
[14:56:00] Typhon: сейчас модно
[14:56:03] bobry: Typhon, щас так и есть
[14:56:10] cutwater: Paradoxx: и где там соответствие твоему примеру, найди отличия же
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[14:56:24] nmk: bobry: ну Typhon вроде всё правильно скзаал для твоего случая :)
[14:56:25] bobry: просто мне надо путь восстановить между двумя вершинами, с такой структуруй не удобно получается
[14:56:37] nmk: а..
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[14:58:16] Paradoxx: cutwater: т.е. в создании класса всегда используется конструктор
[14:58:17] nmk: восстановить ты что имешь ввиду?
[14:58:40] bobry: на входе две вершины, на выходе список ребер
[14:58:52] bobry: вот думаю может добавить еще ancestors
[14:58:58] cutwater: Paradoxx: все несколько сложнее, и не обязательно.
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[14:59:03] nmk: bobry: http://www.cartoweb.org/downloads/pgdijkstra/README.txt
или сложно?
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[14:59:18] bobry: опять же, overkill — граф фиксирован
[14:59:20] Paradoxx: cutwater: вот я и хочу разобраться, лан пойду дальше быдло кодить
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[14:59:44] bobry: к тому же там один путь из каждой вершины в каждую
[14:59:50] bobry: так что shortest не нужно
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[15:00:05] nmk: bobry: ну тогда я не знаю зачем ты тут что-то спрашиваешь :)) если 5 вершин и 6 ребер то выбери все, а дальше питон уже
[15:00:13] bobry: дык хочется по кошерному
[15:00:15] cutwater: Paradoxx: дык читай книжку по ООП / питону / чему-нибудь
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[15:00:18] cutwater: а не методом тыка же
[15:00:21] bobry: как в лоб решить проблему я и так знаю :)
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[15:00:54] cutwater: Paradoxx: http://ideone.com/wiGRF
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[15:00:57] Paradoxx: cutwater: читаю, спасибо
[15:01:01] cutwater: вот тебе минимальный пример
[15:01:09] cutwater: разбирайся
[15:01:13] nmk: bobry: по кошерному? :) ну. Boost Graph Library - Python Bindings ? :)
[15:01:26] nmk: хотя наверное что-то лучше есть
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[15:01:42] nmk: bobry: http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonGraphApi
во
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[15:02:08] bobry: по кошерному значило средствами бд :)
[15:02:15] Typhon: pl/python ^_^
[15:02:18] bobry: :D
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[15:04:52] Typhon: у нас на plpgsql путь ищется (только между таблицами :) )
[15:05:05] bobry: вот вы извращенцы
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[15:06:03] nmk: bobry: воооо
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4074794/simple-graph-search-algorithm-in-sql-postgresql
[15:06:20] bobry: да у меня mongo
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[15:07:05] bobry: щас вот думаю что все таки лучше на питоне напишу — 3-4 лишних запроса ее не убьют
[15:07:21] Typhon: bobry: интерфейс к монге dict-like ? http://www.python.org/doc/essays/graphs/
[15:08:05] bobry: да, но adjacency lists не вариант из за того что графы имеют вес
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[15:08:23] nmk: bobry: а как ты хотел написать? через eval?
[15:08:38] bobry: да пока никак не хотел — смотрю варианты
[15:08:43] bobry: eval лочит базу — ну его нафик
[15:08:47] nmk: ну через eval не пиши
[15:08:48] nmk: :)
[15:08:51] nmk: да
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[15:09:04] nmk: там почти все лочит базу, на самом деле :)
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[15:09:15] bobry: там же write lock не?
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[15:09:27] bobry: в смысле читать в это время можно
[15:09:38] nmk: помоему нет
[15:10:16] nmk: eval() blocks the entire mongod process while running. Thus, its operations are atomic but prevent other operations from processing.
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[15:10:35] bobry: ну eval() да
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[15:11:55] nmk: м .да. щас вспомню. что-то там интересное было, что мешало чтению.
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[15:12:41] nmk: у меня там правда не eval был, а find с snapshot, и то-ли очередь на запись переполялась, то ли еще что-то, но все читающие отвалились по таймауту. как-то так было.
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[15:13:03] Paradoxx: cutwater: переделал, http://ideone.com/NBrVD
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[15:41:06] piranha: бля, регистратор мудак
[15:41:26] piranha: вместо того чтоб сказать две недели назад "байтфлоу.су экспайрицо", он мне сегодня написал "через пару дней мы дропнем домен"
[15:41:28] piranha: гореть им в аду
[15:41:43] piranha: я отлично узнал пару дней назад, что моя карточка перестала рабоатть в инете (
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[15:41:51] piranha: ненавижу глупости :|
[15:41:59] gigimon: меняй регистратора
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[15:42:15] bobry: напиши ему что ты знаешь где их офис
[15:42:22] bobry: и что ты безбашенный украинский пацан
[15:42:27] bobry: я думаю они примут правильное решение
[15:42:29] gigimon: я вот хощусь на партнере наунета, за месяц до окончания срока начинают писать :)
[15:42:37] gigimon: гг
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[16:05:16] nmk: crecord рулит, да.
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[16:05:59] Paradoxx: вот недавно по поводу классов у меня была вот такая реакция, слушать начало несколько раз чтобы проникнуться
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTgcK3ajg-Q
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[16:11:13] bobry: эх, жаль что dict comprehensions только в 2.7
[16:11:18] bobry: такая приятная фишка
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[16:12:37] gigimon: а пеп 2001 года...
[16:12:39] gigimon: странно
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[16:16:51] огыешсук: bobry: а зачем?
[16:17:03] bobry: dict перестроить
[16:17:11] огыешсук: например?
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[16:17:37] bobry: точнее построить
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[16:17:45] Typhon: ну а зачем lh или genexpr ? :)
[16:17:51] Typhon: *lc
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[16:18:10] bobry: например мне монго возрващает список документов, а я хочу из них сделать словарь с ключем _id
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[16:20:10] xa4a: dict((d._id, d) for d in mongo.get_smth())
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[16:20:19] xa4a: но вообще +
[16:20:35] bobry: ну да — именно эта запись мне и не нравилась
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[16:54:26] xa4a: /me придумал вопрос на собеседование
[16:54:38] xa4a: a = [1, 2, 3]; map(a.remove, a)
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[16:55:55] xa4a: и подсказка: a = [1, 2, 3]; map(a.remove, [x for x in a]) vs. a = [1,2,3]; map(a.remove, (x for x in a))
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[16:56:19] deepwalker: злой ты
[16:56:44] огыешсук: /me в сомнительных случаях предпочитает ставить эксперимент, а не полагаться на память
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[16:57:27] deepwalker: xa4a, а в чем вопрос?
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[16:57:44] xa4a: deepwalker: что останется в а в результате?
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[16:57:57] deepwalker: я думал праивльный ответ - не надо так писать
[16:58:05] xa4a: ну вообще да)
[16:58:06] deepwalker: а оно вон что : )
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[17:00:29] огыешсук: >>> a = [1,2,3]; map(a.remove, (x for x in a))
[None, None]
>>> a
[2]

[17:00:32] огыешсук: wtf?
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[17:01:32] Typhon: огыешсук: что тебя смущает? :)
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[17:01:44] огыешсук: В одном случае сдвигает и переиндексирует живой список, а в другом работает копию?
[17:01:45] gigimon: наверно почему 2 осталась
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[17:02:24] wiz_: я думал оно вообще выкинет iterable changed while iterating или как оно там
[17:02:36] огыешсук: Во-во, я тоже думал и удивляюсь.
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[17:04:50] огыешсук: xa4a: твоё собеседование, теперь объясняй почему не ругается и при этом двойку оставляет.
[17:04:55] огыешсук: Хехе:
>>> a = [1, 2, 3]; map(a.remove, [x for x in a])
<map object at 0xb7179d2c>
>>> a
[1, 2, 3]

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[17:05:28] огыешсук: ровно то же и в случае с ()
[17:05:33] огыешсук: 3.1
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[17:05:57] Typhon: ну потому что map = imap
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[17:06:15] Typhon: и он ещё не отработал )
[17:06:26] xa4a: эм.. /me подозревает, что в первом и последнем моём случае, т.к. итератор где-то в сях, то он ориентируется по числовому индексу
[17:06:28] deepwalker: и a там будет []
[17:06:41] deepwalker: ага, он ArrayList, как я понимаю
[17:06:46] deepwalker: то есть не список на самом деле
[17:06:52] deepwalker: а подколка под список
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[17:07:05] xa4a: тоесть сначала удаляется 0 из [1,2,3], а потом 1 из [2,3]
[17:07:11] deepwalker: зато шустрый
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[17:07:20] deepwalker: и памяти меньше жрет
[17:07:27] deepwalker: шустрый в опр задачах, да
[17:07:42] огыешсук: xa4a: обычно оно действительно ругалось в подобных ситуациях на изменение списка по которому идёт итерирование
[17:07:45] огыешсук: а тут не ругается
[17:08:11] deepwalker: в яве ругается по-моему
[17:08:15] deepwalker: а тут вроде нет
[17:08:17] xa4a: это всё map, думаю
[17:08:27] deepwalker: хм
[17:08:31] xa4a: оно в С где-то бегает
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[17:08:48] deepwalker: for тоже не сругнулся
[17:09:01] deepwalker: и ответ тот же
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[17:23:08] wiz: в map array list или где?
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[17:30:23] gigimon: подскажите, как в админке джанги добавить свою кнопку, там где save, save and add other?
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[17:31:12] Ляпатяпа: подскажем
[17:31:14] gigimon: 2это ж не actions?
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[17:31:17] Ляпатяпа: http://djangocoder.ru/articles/11/
[17:31:25] gigimon: спс
[17:31:44] gigimon: ох мля
[17:31:52] gigimon: я думал можно без правки темплейта
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[17:33:55] altego: Хм.. а как ловить timeout в urllib2?
[17:34:10] altego: с urllib2.URLError ничего не вышло
[17:34:11] xa4a: есть подозрение, что try: except:
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[17:34:30] Ляпатяпа: слышал что в 2.7 там с таймаутами получше
[17:34:31] altego: Ну голый except не вариант.. а других исключений я не нашел в доке :)
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[17:35:07] altego: У меня 2.7 :)
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[17:36:18] piranha: xa4a: за такие вопросы я б послал в хер собачий
[17:36:29] piranha: хотя если долго думать, то можно сказать верный ответ, но всë равно
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[17:37:33] altego: piranha: ты о моем вопросе?
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[17:38:49] xa4a: ну вообще можно словить дебагером и полазить по e.__bases__
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[17:39:10] xa4a: или словить дебагером и посмотреть e.__module__, e.__class__
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[17:40:09] altego: Каюсь, поленился ловить, надеялся на быстрый ответ)
[17:40:22] altego: IOError ловит, спасибо
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[17:44:02] piranha: altego: http://twitter.com/xa4a_/status/32824348427427840
[17:44:04] piranha: об этом
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[17:44:47] xa4a: piranha: ну подразумевается, что правильного ответа нет)
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[17:44:51] xa4a: ящитаю
[17:45:20] piranha: ну он есть
[17:45:34] xa4a: т.к. мой разум отказывается, пока что, принять, что тот результат, который я получил - устойчивый и воспроизводим на всех реализациях языка
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[17:45:41] Typhon: UB
[17:45:47] Typhon: как обычно :)
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[17:47:13] bobry: занятно, для a = range(4) тоже [None, None]
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[17:47:46] xa4a: там будет ceil(len(a)/2.) Noneов
[17:47:57] bobry: ну да, похоже на то
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[17:54:23] Ildar: помогите с джангой пожалуйста
[17:54:32] Constantin Slednev: как ?
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[17:54:56] Ildar: в системных средах прописываю пачт C:\Python27\lib\site-packages\django\bin; а консоль не видет django-admin.py
[17:55:09] Constantin Slednev: ебать
[17:55:20] Constantin Slednev: купи мак и не мучайся
[17:55:23] Ildar: что так плохо? :(
[17:55:26] xa4a: Constantin Slednev: да уймись же. не матерись направо и налево
[17:55:35] Constantin Slednev: два раза за два дня
[17:55:41] Constantin Slednev: и так разнервничался ))))
[17:55:52] Ildar: да успокойся :)
[17:55:52] xa4a: и оба раза неуместно
[17:56:02] Constantin Slednev: Ildar вызови по полному пути
[17:56:03] Ildar: все когдато такие были
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[17:56:23] gigimon: Ildar: нафига тебе чтобы консоль видел твой django admin? юзай полные пути :)
[17:56:25] Constantin Slednev: C:\Python27\lib\site-packages\django\bin\django-admin.py <http://django-admin.py/>
[17:56:27] gigimon: я так юзал, т.к. винда их не видела
[17:56:29] gigimon: хоть убейся
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[17:57:11] nmk: насчет маков кстати, когда новые выйдут?
[17:57:27] Constantin Slednev: щя в апстор позвоню узнаю
[17:57:34] h3g: так если системный path то вроде перезагружаться надо, не?
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[17:57:40] gigimon: nmk: летом
[17:57:45] gigimon: надо
[17:57:46] Constantin Slednev: Ildar на линуксее не проще/быстрее разрабатывать ?
[17:58:01] Constantin Slednev: h3g енв выведи и посмотри
[17:58:02] Ildar: Constantin Slednev: качаю дебиан :(
[17:58:08] nmk: gigimon: и air тоже летом?
[17:58:12] gigimon: да никакой разницы если не юзать специфические либы
[17:58:12] Ildar: 4гб весит
[17:58:19] Constantin Slednev: Ildar убунточку проще
[17:58:23] gigimon: nmk: air раз в 2 года
[17:58:29] Constantin Slednev: Ildar а если дебиан то нетинстал бери
[17:58:37] Ildar: у
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[17:58:40] Ildar: тогда убунту :)
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[17:58:45] Ildar: ее уже ставил
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[17:58:56] nmk: gigimon: тогда ок. можно купить air и через месяц не чувствовать себя отсталым
[17:58:56] Constantin Slednev: она юзерфрендли
[17:59:02] gigimon: nmk: буки конец лета-начало осени, телефон в начале летам, ипад февраль-март
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[17:59:09] Constantin Slednev: nmk аир лаэа
[17:59:14] Constantin Slednev: лучше макбукпро
[17:59:15] h3g: я не под виндоус, поэтому могу только предположить)
[17:59:21] gigimon: Constantin Slednev: да тоже самое
[17:59:24] gigimon: если проц не особо нужен
[17:59:33] Constantin Slednev: gigimon там вроде сидюка нет
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[17:59:46] nmk: нахуй нужен сидюк?
[17:59:52] Constantin Slednev: О_о
[17:59:53] nmk: как и езернет?
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[18:00:00] Constantin Slednev: я без него не чувствую себя человеком
[18:00:02] gigimon: эзернет есть
[18:00:05] gigimon: сидюк нах не нужен
[18:00:05] nmk: я диски только в плейстейшн вставляю
[18:00:06] Constantin Slednev: незнаю ,) как то без него плохо
[18:00:13] gigimon: я за полтора года записал 3 диска
[18:00:16] xa4a: cd нужен в макбуке про, чтобы вместо него всунуть ssd винт
[18:00:18] gigimon: и ни разу не читал с диска
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[18:00:28] gigimon: xa4a: а разве можно?
[18:00:33] gigimon: дырка же будет
[18:00:35] gigimon: в последних
[18:00:36] xa4a: gigimon: есть переходники
[18:00:39] xa4a: а
[18:00:40] Constantin Slednev: xa4a ???
[18:00:41] gigimon: хмм
[18:00:41] xa4a: ну..
[18:00:47] gigimon: xa4a: последние ж монолитные)
[18:00:51] Constantin Slednev: xa4a т/е/ выкидываешь сидюк и вхерачиваеш ссд ?
[18:00:54] nmk: gigimon: в airе есть езернет?
[18:01:05] gigimon: nmk: да посмотри ты специфкацию, есть
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[18:01:22] nmk: Apple USB Ethernet Adapter ? :)
[18:01:23] Constantin Slednev: а все начилось с django-admin.py
[18:01:24] Constantin Slednev: :)))))
[18:01:28] gigimon: nmk: ога
[18:01:36] gigimon: зачем нужен эзернет?
[18:01:37] gigimon: на буке
[18:01:42] gigimon: даешь вай-фай везде
[18:01:48] Constantin Slednev: кто юзает www.toggl.com <http://www.toggl.com>
[18:01:49] Constantin Slednev: ?
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[18:02:01] nmk: мне не нужен. ну ты же понимаешь, что я удивелнно спрашивал уже после того как пересмотрел спецификацию. :)
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[18:03:28] gigimon: nmk: переходник в комплекте вроде
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[18:03:58] nmk: ну, у меня почему-то русский apple открылся, там написано отдельно покупается
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[18:05:35] gigimon: хм
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[18:05:46] nmk: gigimon: можно еще купить poe wifi-точку и не парится. ;)
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[18:05:55] gigimon: точно :)
[18:06:00] gigimon: или на аккумах
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[18:10:41] Ildar: кто убунту 11.04 ставил?
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[18:11:21] wiz: я завтра буду альфу2 ставить
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[18:11:31] wiz: или хотя бы просто запущу (=
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[18:13:26] webninja: привет
[18:13:30] webninja: гляньте код
[18:13:32] webninja: http://dumpz.org/30700/
[18:13:35] webninja: так норм делать?
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[18:13:58] webninja: чтобы вот так можно было UserActivity().add_visit(request).save()
[18:14:00] Typhon: .has_key => in
[18:14:25] webninja: мне?
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[18:17:13] _lorien: неправильная логика
[18:17:24] _lorien: если нет HTTP_REFERER в META, это не значит, что там нет REMOTE_ADDR
[18:17:43] webninja: ну мне не интересны те кто без реферера
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[18:17:59] _lorien: так что лушче все присовения записать так self.abc = request.META.get('HTTP_ABC', 'default-value')
[18:18:05] webninja: аша
[18:18:07] webninja: ага
[18:18:16] webninja: а return self это по канонам?
[18:18:27] _lorien: нет, хуйня какая-то :)
[18:18:29] _lorien: имхо
[18:18:30] webninja: бля )
[18:18:41] webninja: а как? иначе не работает UserActivity().add_visit(request).save()
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[18:18:50] _lorien: лучше так:
ua = UserActivity()
ua.add_visit(request)
ua.save()
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[18:18:57] webninja: 3и строчки!
[18:19:02] _lorien: или UserActivity.objects.create_from_request(request)
[18:19:03] gigimon: и че
[18:19:06] gigimon: строчек жалко?
[18:19:17] webninja: а UserActivity().add_visit(request).save() <<<< it's a real Python Way dudes!
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[18:21:10] webninja: блин я думал это четкий хак а вы все опошлил )
[18:21:14] webninja: *и
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[18:24:41] _lorien: не, ну это как-то по умному называется, например, в jquery там много методов работаю
[18:25:00] _lorien: но как-то в джанге не принято такое :)
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[18:25:28] _lorien: UserActivity().add_visit(request).save()
[18:25:34] _lorien: UserActivity.objects.create_from_request(request)
[18:25:46] _lorien: Первое как-то уродливо выглядит :)
[18:26:02] wiz: UserActivity.objects.register(request)
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[18:29:43] _lorien: UserActivity.objects.WhiteCows__flies_so_beautifUL(request)
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[18:37:31] webninja: под давлением общественности растянул на 3и строчки
[18:37:57] h3g: UserActivity.create(request) так вроде покрасивее и правильнее, где то читал что джанговский подход к моделям неверный.
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[18:39:08] wiz: вот если бы это где-то сам придумал, то да
[18:39:23] wiz: а так, правильный подход
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[18:56:06] _lorien: Ну просто в джанге мне кажется сформировался подоход пихать методы, который не работают непосредственно с готовым instance в мэнеджер модели.
[18:56:12] _lorien: Например, User.objects.create_user
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[18:58:37] gigimon: подскажите, в джанге для отправки почты с альтернативного мыла ( не указаного в сеттингах) надо писать свой бэкенд?
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[18:59:41] wiz: нет вроде
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[19:00:16] gigimon: да вот чет не вижу, логан пароль в send_mail можно
[19:00:18] gigimon: а хост нет
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[19:04:17] Magister Yoda: http://dumpz.org/30702/ почему ошибка при нажатии на ссылку - выход? AttributeError at /logout/'module' object has no attribute 'views'
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[19:05:46] _lorien: return auth.views - видимо, потом ты метод auth определяешь
[19:05:53] _lorien: и он затирает проимпортированный объект auth
[19:06:05] _lorien: или чо-нить вэ том роде
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[19:10:01] _lorien: !wtf brutal
[19:10:12] _lorien: !wtf "brutal deep throat"
[19:10:17] _lorien: блин
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[19:10:21] _lorien: !wtf "brutal
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[19:17:50] Magister Yoda: _lorien: ничего не определяю
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[19:19:01] Magister Yoda: http://dumpz.org/30709/ вот как у меня
[19:19:15] Magister Yoda: больше auth нигде не используется
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[19:20:36] _lorien: ну низя так делать
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[19:21:26] _lorien: from django.contrib.auth.views import login
... login(..) - так можно
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[19:22:01] _lorien: короче нельзя импортировать пакет и ждать, шо магически потом питон вычислит как добраться до внутренностей внутреннего пакета
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[19:22:41] _lorien: немного некорректно сказал
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[19:23:13] _lorien: в общем, если в auth/__init__.py не импортируется views, то ты получаешь ошибку, когда пытаешься сделать auth.views
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[19:23:39] _lorien: хуй знает, как это по-умному всё сказать :)
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[19:38:31] Magister Yoda: _lorien: сделал как ты сказал - появился бесконечный цикл)
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[19:39:01] Magister Yoda: а блин. нашел ошибку
[19:39:20] _lorien: ну пару раз так обломаешься, потом придёт понимание :)
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[19:40:53] Magister Yoda: да просто мне типо говорили - пиши все названия функций маленькими буками. я и написал - login, logout =)
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[19:41:41] gigimon: на namespaces попал?
[19:41:47] Magister Yoda: хотя всё равно logout почему-то не фурычит
[19:41:50] Magister Yoda: ага
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[19:46:25] Magister Yoda: _lorien: ещё вопрос
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[19:48:35] Magister Yoda: вот у меня стало
from django.contrib.auth import login, logout
а было
from django.contrib.views import auth
тут я юзал auth.views.login(request) и всё работало.
а сейчас как поступить?
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[19:50:00] Magister Yoda: ой. было как-то не так, но что-то в этом роде)
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[19:50:54] _lorien: понимай как работаю пакеты, модули, что происходит при операции импортирования
[19:51:09] _lorien: прочитай раздел про это в книге Лутца "Изучаем python"
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[19:52:43] Magister Yoda: не. тут дело не в Питоне. я сейчас говорю про то что мне сейчас для login надо ещё user передавать
[19:53:25] xa4a: это не тот логин
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[19:53:36] xa4a: тот, куда юзера передавать - не вьюха
[19:53:47] Magister Yoda: о_О вот оно чо...
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[19:53:58] Magister Yoda: а где тот?
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[19:55:32] xa4a: в views, видимо
[19:55:34] Magister Yoda: нашел
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[20:09:38] _lorien: > не. тут дело не в Питоне.
как раз в питоне, когда есть понимание, то такие вопросы не задаются, человек просто молча исследует исходный код и находит проблему
[20:10:14] _lorien: вернее, решает проблему :)
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[22:09:55] _lorien: гугл помечает мои письма, как спам, чо делать? :)
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[22:14:52] gigimon: блин
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[22:15:01] gigimon: кто-то может оюъяснить, этот баг закрыли в 2.6? http://bugs.python.org/issue5285
[22:15:07] gigimon: чет не понимаю я их
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[22:43:50] wiz: Resolution: wont fix
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[22:44:27] piranha: а, чуваки, кстати, мож вам будет интересно - http://checkvist.com/checklists/56634-ted-rsa
[22:44:36] piranha: это тед или рса токи, которые мы втыкали
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[22:46:22] wiz: Мужик рассказывает, как ледокол.
[22:46:24] wiz: чочо?
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[22:47:21] piranha: уфф
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[22:47:34] piranha: ну он там рассказывает, как он купался в озере на высоте N километров в тибе
[22:47:35] piranha: *тибете
[22:47:42] piranha: или как купался в озере в антарктиде
[22:47:47] piranha: харизматичный такой мужик
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[22:56:48] Typhon: Where good ideas come from -- хорошее
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[22:57:30] Typhon: хм, да почти все, которые в best -- хорошие. за исключением тех, которые не смотрел :D
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[22:58:20] wiz: жаль rsa новых давно не делали
[22:58:22] piranha: Typhon: те тоже неожиданно хорошие
[22:58:35] piranha: surprising science of motivation смотрел?
[22:59:04] Typhon: да, про мотивацию смотрел. ща пересмотрю ещё, видимо, из best ^_^
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[23:00:35] piranha: :)
[23:00:44] piranha: если есть еще какие-то клëвые, то давай сцылки сюда
[23:00:49] piranha: я их туда вниз скину :)
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