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[07:30:51] denger__: [vim] кто как настраивает фолдинг? у меня syntax почему-то не работает (а может я его не правильно использую), а indent надо при каждом открытии файла разворачивать
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[07:49:22] denger__: [vim] как правильно прописывать в файле с кодом настройки вима? а еще лучше почитать об этом
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[09:58:44] Typhon is now Faster, Pussycat! Kill! Kill!
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[10:25:18] xa4a: denger__: https://github.com/vim-scripts/python_fold
[10:25:23] xa4a: это сворачивание кода
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[10:25:59] denger__: ок, гляну потом
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[10:27:46] xa4a: а зачем в файле с кодом прописывать настройки вима?
[10:29:20] slav0nic: чтоб показать всем что ты не какой-то пудев сраный вим, а гуру вима
[10:29:32] slav0nic: чёрд, запятые феил)
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[10:35:02] Typhon: блин, второй раз в pdb дохожу до нужного места, хочу посмотреть на переменную "c", набираю "c" ну и иду до следующего брейкпойнта %)
[10:35:17] bobry: Typhon, используй нормальные имена :)
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[10:36:54] Typhon: это не я
[10:37:02] Typhon: это sql алхимия
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[10:37:15] Typhon: for c in что-то там
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[10:38:14] bobry: pep8 не одобряет
[10:38:19] denger__: это нужно, чтобы оставить текущий стиль кода, вместо табов - два пробела
[10:38:48] bobry: denger__, нафик такой стиль
[10:38:57] denger__: какой есть
[10:39:04] bobry: меняй
[10:39:07] Typhon: denger__: pep8 же
[10:39:10] bobry: уважай других людей
[10:39:12] Typhon: !wtf pep8
[10:39:12] denger__: это в javascript
[10:39:18] bobry: oh, well
[10:39:22] bobry: с этого надо было начинать :)
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[10:39:43] denger__: сагалаев вроде с двумя пробелами код пишет
[10:40:00] Typhon: и что? ;-)
[10:40:13] denger__: ничто
[10:40:25] denger__: давайте его осудим
[10:40:26] slav0nic: гвидо по-моему тоже
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[10:58:38] xa4a: denger__: дак есть же filetype plugin
[10:59:00] denger__: ненене, большинство файлов js у нас с табами
[10:59:09] denger__: а этот сцуко с двумя пробелами
[10:59:18] denger__: вот для него и надо было прописать
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[10:59:37] denger__: я в одном из плагинов подсмотрел как это делается и прописал
[10:59:44] xa4a: :retab
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[11:00:20] denger__: ретабом я пару функций в этом файле перевел с табов на пробелы
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[11:00:48] denger__: а он обратно разве работает?
[11:01:36] xa4a: With !, Vim also replaces strings of only normal
spaces with tabs where appropriate.
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[11:03:17] xa4a: в общем, я бы в js тоже сделал пробелы, в количестве двух штук
[11:03:50] xa4a: с табами не удобно выделять блоки
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[11:08:22] xa4a: denger__: может пригодится: https://github.com/xa4a/vimfiles
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[11:10:12] denger__: почему не удобно?
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[11:11:28] xa4a: блоки которые C-v
[11:11:39] xa4a: курсор скачет неясно куда
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[11:58:14] piranha: http://blog.rgbdaily.com/2011/02/03/redis-and-sqlite-why-wait-for-good-enough/
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[12:09:08] mishok13: бля, ну ересь какая-то по ссылке
[12:09:30] piranha: да, всë в кучу валит
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[12:09:51] piranha: но про редис вот одна штука верна - я охренел, когда он решил писать свой бтри
[12:09:54] denger__: не в то окно
[12:09:57] piranha: какого пертса?
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[12:10:10] denger__: я про джиру - она внутренняя
[12:10:15] mishok13: пушо он крутой, наркоман
[12:10:35] mishok13: но sqlite?
[12:10:37] mishok13: srsly?
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[12:10:54] piranha: не, sqlite - это ржака
[12:11:42] mishok13: по-ходу, из всех этих новомодных носкулей только монго и кассандра чего-то добились
[12:11:54] piranha: кассандра?
[12:11:59] nmk: riiiaaaaaaaaaakkkkkkk
[12:12:01] piranha: еë ж фейсбук перестаëт юзать
[12:12:08] piranha: да, по-моему риак вроде бы шото там шевелитсо
[12:12:15] mishok13: и то, кассандра на спаде, а монго делает стартап с непонятным способом зарабатывания бабла
[12:12:17] piranha: но риак на сраном ерланге
[12:12:23] piranha: ага
[12:12:26] nmk: riak он крутой. но, сука, тормоз. по карйней мере по моим тестам
[12:12:29] mishok13: риак ок лол
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[12:12:41] piranha: ничо, вон к мускулу прикрутили хендлерсокет и теперь мускул самый крутой nosql
[12:13:17] mishok13: хуйня, amazon dynamo и google bigtable самые крутые
[12:13:32] mishok13: токо они проприетарные и с ограничениями для простых смертных
[12:13:52] piranha: и очень медленные
[12:14:02] mishok13: *ограничения*
[12:14:04] piranha: не знаю, что там динама, но бигтейбл тормоз ой-вэй
[12:14:15] piranha: у него такие же ограничения для непростых смертных
[12:14:25] mishok13: ты в гугле работаешь с некоторых пор?
[12:14:37] piranha: нет, но Augie Fackler так сказал
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[12:14:42] piranha: а он работает в гугле и пилит гугль код
[12:14:43] nmk: mishok13: а чем тебе риак то не угодил? :)
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[12:16:45] mishok13: nmk, я ему не доверяю
[12:17:17] nmk: не доверяешь в чем? в сохранности данных?
[12:17:25] mishok13: ага
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[12:18:08] nmk: ну я тестил на 5и нодах, при w=3, r=2, две ноды ронял одновременно. все данные не проверял, но на произвольных тестах данные были.
[12:18:42] mishok13: nmk, ну ты же вроде умный парень, сам должен понимать, что доверие приходиться строить годами успешных деплойментов, а не парочкой тестов
[12:18:48] mishok13: в жизни всякое бывает
[12:19:06] nmk: ну, Walkin там все кичится riakом, мол пашет и все ок
[12:19:38] nmk: годами успешных деплойментов это не про nosql :)
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[12:19:43] mishok13: ну вот именно
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[12:20:20] nmk: у mongo с этим делом все еще хуже. если ставить w=2, то каждая запись будет ооочень долгой
[12:20:29] nmk: но у меня слабые слейвы, да.
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[13:05:33] gigimon: а никто в джанговую админку не добавлял свой функционал? Для примера, есть 2 модели, входящие и исходящие сообщения, при просмотре входящего надо добавить кнопку Ответ, которая будет открывать создание нового исходящего сообщения и передавать туда контекст? Как доабвить кнопку я знаю, а вот как передать контекст?
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[13:06:18] nmk: не по теме, но все же, почему входящие и исходящие это не одна модель сообщения? :)
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[13:06:54] denger__: что за контекст?
[13:07:16] denger__: можно через GET-параметры передать
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[13:08:15] gigimon: denger__: контекст от кого, чтобы засунуть кому и текст письма входящего
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[13:08:21] gigimon: nmk: ну вот как-то так :)
[13:08:34] gigimon: denger__: а если сообщение на тысячу символов? :)
[13:08:40] xa4a: gigimon: передать id входящего сообщения
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[13:08:44] xa4a: это контекст
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[13:09:05] gigimon: xa4a: угу
[13:09:08] gigimon: как его передать та?
[13:09:17] denger__: админка понимает геты
[13:09:29] gigimon: переопрделить view для вывода исходящего сообщения?
[13:09:35] xa4a: {% url message_response incoming_msg.id %}
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[13:10:12] gigimon: ну, это ж мне надо обработать и вывести при создании, т.е. как-то в форму которая выводится в админке
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[16:02:52] mishok13: https://docs.google.com/present/view?id=ddzswzbr_104f2sgp8dq&pli=1
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[16:07:00] !tmp~: mishok13, это к чему?
[16:07:08] mishok13: это про монгу
[16:07:25] mishok13: вот у нас тоже похожие проблемы были (и есть)
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[16:08:46] !tmp~: какие проблемы то?
[16:08:50] !tmp~: или о них в конце?
[16:09:50] Typhon: начиная с третьго слайда проблемы :)
[16:10:28] !tmp~: уже 9 слайд, не вижу проблем
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[16:11:01] Typhon: с 5го проблемы, ок.
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[16:11:33] mishok13: !tmp~, ну, ты явно невнимательно читаешь
[16:11:44] !tmp~: mishok13, а че читать, я ее использую
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[16:12:07] !tmp~: ну, читаю, все верно написано. проблемы то в чем?
[16:12:10] mishok13: хыхы
[16:12:13] mishok13: ни в чем
[16:12:20] !tmp~: ну вот
[16:12:23] mishok13: пользуйся
[16:12:46] !tmp~: это инструмент. у него есть особенности. если есть задача, для которой подходит такой инструмент, надо его использовать
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[16:12:55] !tmp~: если нужны транзакции и тп - не надо его использовать
[16:13:02] !tmp~: и никаких проблем
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[16:14:07] mishok13: эти особенности, к сожалению, очень неочевидны и плохо задокументированы
[16:14:32] mishok13: плюс к тому, нестабильность инструмента несёт определенную опасность для его пользователей
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[16:15:08] !tmp~: ты о какой нестабильности?
[16:15:14] !tmp~: о single server durability?
[16:15:15] mishok13: other than that -- всё правильно
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[16:15:56] mishok13: так, чувствую сейчас будет разговор на уровне "у меня всё ок, чяднт?"
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[16:16:24] !tmp~: :D
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[16:18:40] kxekxe: народ подскажите.. не могу со словарём разобраться.. как в него добавлять пары чтобы порядок не портился?
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[16:19:15] mishok13: у словарей нету порядка
[16:19:18] xa4a: kxekxe: тебе не нужен словарь
[16:19:25] kxekxe: =)
[16:19:40] mishok13: кто-то прослушал лекцию по хэш-таблицам в университете
[16:20:15] gigimon: эхе хе
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[16:20:56] gigimon: не подскажете, как мне в переопределенном change_form.html у админки вывести форму?
[16:21:03] gigimon: которую джанга туда передает
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[16:23:05] Typhon: а kxekxe обиделся чтоли и ушёл? :(
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[16:27:28] kxekxe: тоесть если я в цикле добавляю в него пары и потом при просмотре всего словаря ключи не так как мне надо то это нормально? =)
[16:27:49] gigimon: а зачем тебе порядок в словаре?
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[16:27:58] gigimon: ну и да, нормально
[16:28:01] Typhon: kxekxe: http://docs.python.org/library/stdtypes.html?highlight=dict#dict
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[16:30:01] Constantin Slednev: kxekxe https://github.com/riffm/insanities-testing/blob/master/insanities/utils/odict.py
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[16:30:48] Typhon: Constantin Slednev: import collections ;-)
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[16:31:00] kxekxe: о да
[16:31:09] kxekxe: пасиб )
[16:31:12] Typhon: советуют тут всякое. пусть лучше читнёт доки
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[16:34:18] Constantin Slednev: Typhon он их не читал ? О_о
[16:34:27] kxekxe: читаю =)
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[16:36:14] Typhon: Constantin Slednev: а по вопросам не видно, не? олсо, ты велосипед посоветовал
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[16:36:37] Constantin Slednev: Typhon а ему что нужно ?
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[16:37:02] Typhon: Constantin Slednev: http://docs.python.org/library/collections.html?highlight=collections.ordereddict#collections.OrderedDict
[16:37:04] Typhon: а ты тоже не читал доков
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[16:38:11] Constantin Slednev: нет
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[16:38:14] Constantin Slednev: а зачем?
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[16:38:23] Constantin Slednev: ты читал ?
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[16:38:43] Constantin Slednev: зачем нам с kxekxe если можно у тебя спросить :)))))
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[16:39:37] Ildar: а в джанге есть виджеты?
[16:39:52] Constantin Slednev: Typhon ты кстате такой начитанный, скажи мне почему я дал ссылку на велосипед а не на доку (вопрос с подвохом)
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[16:40:00] Ildar: чтоб определенное приложение выводить в определенном месте?
[16:40:10] Constantin Slednev: есть
[16:40:15] Ildar: эт хорошо
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[16:41:31] Constantin Slednev: Typhon твой вариант с версии 2.7 :)
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[16:46:15] mishok13: и?
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[16:47:27] mishok13: если бы ты был внимательный и читал доку, то ты бы увидел ссылку на, цитирую:
See also Equivalent OrderedDict recipe that runs on Python 2.4 or later.

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[16:48:12] Typhon: туше, ёба
[16:48:15] Typhon: :)
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[16:48:44] piranha: олсо, pypi.python.org/pypi/odict
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[16:49:00] mishok13: которая, между прочим, написана не каким-то случайным чуваком с гитхаба, а Реймондом Хеттингером, одним из самых активных участников проекта CPython, о котором, впрочем, ты мог и не слышать
[16:49:01] piranha: потому шо если модуля нет на pypi - то он не существует
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[16:49:29] piranha: mishok13: ладно-ладно, Тимофей вполне шарящий чувак
[16:49:30] mishok13: piranha, я щас тебя уничтожу
[16:49:32] mishok13: но
[16:49:33] mishok13: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/ordereddict
[16:49:42] piranha: о, хорошо
[16:49:43] piranha: :)
[16:49:44] mishok13: тот самый рецепт, написаный Реймондом
[16:49:52] !tmp~: это, в джанге еще есть, емнип
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[16:51:24] Constantin Slednev: mishok13 собственно если прочесть что ты процитировал то получиться моя ссылка
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[16:52:11] piranha: Constantin Slednev: только зачем оно там? Если даже на pypi есть?
[16:52:16] mishok13: по-моему, ты наркоман
[16:52:32] Constantin Slednev: mishok13 ниразу!!!!!!
[16:52:53] mishok13: больше восклицательных знаков и я может быть поверю
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[16:53:00] Constantin Slednev: piranha тебе главное что бы на пипке было или что бы был рабочий вариант или что бы был рабочий и понятный ?
[16:53:10] Constantin Slednev: mishok13 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[16:53:19] mishok13: пиздец
[16:53:24] piranha: Constantin Slednev: тебе не кажется, что твой вопрос не несëт смысла?
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[16:53:29] Constantin Slednev: есть кто то из Москвы который ищет работу ?
[16:53:31] mishok13: слушай, ты притворяешься или просто дебил?
[16:53:44] Constantin Slednev: piranha неа
[16:53:54] Typhon: и эти люди ещё говорят кому-то, что и как делать :'(
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[16:53:59] piranha: а мне вот кажется...
[16:54:09] mishok13: есть оригинальный код, есть этот же код завёрнутый в удобный для использования пакет, есть этот же код интегрированый в stdlib
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[16:54:48] mishok13: твоя же ссылка только увеличивает энтропию и несет разруху в головы
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[16:56:43] Constantin Slednev: mishok13 ты всегда выебываешся или только в чатах ?
[16:56:53] Constantin Slednev: mishok13 мой вариант рабочий и я его быстро дал человеку
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[16:57:20] Constantin Slednev: mishok13 ты стал разводить какой то непонятный флейм и заниматься оскорблениями на других участников, то что ты тут сидешь много лет не дает тебе право так себя вести
[16:57:36] mishok13: погоди-ка
[16:57:39] Constantin Slednev: piranha иди в церковь сходи
[16:57:42] mishok13: это ты начал оскорблять собеседников
[16:57:44] piranha: Constantin Slednev: попустись, а?
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[16:58:07] mishok13: я спокойно наблюдал, пока ты не сказал очевидную глупость
[16:58:23] mishok13: поправил тебя
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[16:58:28] Constantin Slednev: поправил ?
[16:58:30] Constantin Slednev: )))))
[16:58:37] Constantin Slednev: да вы Хам батенька
[16:58:52] mishok13: если ты это воспринял как личную обиду -- предлагаю тебе выдернуть эзернетик из своего рутера
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[16:59:22] !tmp~: Кость, ты чето разошелся
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[17:01:55] Constantin Slednev: Извините если я не прав :( день сегодня плохой
[17:02:09] Constantin Slednev: !tmp~ Привет
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[17:02:48] !tmp~: Constantin Slednev, привет
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[17:03:39] kxekxe: спасибо всем... за ссылки
[17:03:54] kxekxe: пригодилось всё =)
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[17:04:46] gigimon: а в джнго админке можно сделать, чтобы при выводе textfield он учитывал \n и переводил строку?
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[17:06:34] slav0nic: встроить редактор?
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[17:06:53] !tmp~: мир, чуваки. давайте лучше похапешников обсирать
[17:07:00] gigimon: slav0nic: поле ридонли
[17:07:14] gigimon: редактор как-то нецелесообразно чтоли
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[17:07:29] slav0nic: ну заверни в linebreaks
[17:07:32] slav0nic: тег
[17:07:35] slav0nic: или как там его
[17:07:39] gigimon: думал выводить поле юзаю джанговский фильтр, но не разобрался как выводить форму в change_html
[17:07:47] gigimon: так он, так, как его заюзать? :)
[17:07:48] !tmp~: gigimon, {{ stringa | linebreaks}}
[17:07:56] gigimon: !tmp~: ну я не настолько дурак))
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[17:08:19] gigimon: я фиг знает как поле из формы в change_form.htmlвывести
[17:08:26] !tmp~: gigimon, значит я дурак. уже с час как вообще не понимаю о чем народ спорит и спрашивает
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[17:08:34] gigimon: )))
[17:08:41] !tmp~: надо больше спать, точно вам говорю
[17:08:51] Ildar: мдя
[17:09:01] Ildar: бубунта 10,04 норм ставиться
[17:09:04] Ildar: а 10,10 нет
[17:10:04] Typhon: Ildar: третье лицо, единственное число, глагол.
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[17:11:38] !tmp~: gigimon, выводи форму отдельными полями, а для ридонли полей рядом выводи содержимое в дивах через linebreaks
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[17:11:58] gigimon: !tmp~: проблема не ридонли, а проблема вывести форму
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[17:12:25] !tmp~: ох елки
[17:12:38] !tmp~: gigimon, а в чем проблема вывести форму?
[17:12:52] !tmp~: for f in form.fields ? или чо?
[17:12:55] !tmp~: или как там
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[17:13:36] gigimon: !tmp~: проблема вывести форму в админке
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[17:13:57] !tmp~: gigimon, ну ты же сам про подмену change_html глаголешь
[17:14:03] gigimon: ну да
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[17:14:13] gigimon: вот и проблема в подмене ее, я не понимаю что туда передается)
[17:14:26] gigimon: adminform передается, как из нее вывести поля непонимаю
[17:14:29] !tmp~: посмотри в исходниках джанги ее родной вариант
[17:14:38] !tmp~: adminform.fields не?
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[17:15:33] gigimon: ее родной вариант мне ваще мозг вынес))
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[17:15:38] gigimon: там одни тэги
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[17:15:51] gigimon: и по гуглу, такое впечатление, что никто не делал этого)
[17:15:53] gigimon: в общем пока забил
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[17:16:48] !tmp~: gigimon, ну это, ж, блин
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[19:23:30] gigimon: подскажите, а как мне в hg вернуть файл, который я удалил с фс?
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[20:13:38] altego: Хм. А могу быть уверен, что то, что я засовываю в ManyToManyField будет мне возвращаться в том же порядке всегда?
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[20:18:40] altego: Или джанга эти данные возвращает согласно Meta.ordering модели, на которую ссылаемся? Надо бы проверить, никогда не задумывался =/
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[23:59:03] Typhon: http://docs.python.org/faq/index.html <- не видел раньше, давно появился?