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[00:00:49] deepwalker: тока я не понял как имим пользоваться
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[00:01:59] piranha: макросами?
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[00:04:20] deepwalker: ага
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[00:07:47] piranha: так же, как и в лиспе %)
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[00:09:13] deepwalker: хм
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[00:09:21] piranha: deepwalker: ну ты ж понимаешь, зачем юзают #define в Си?
[00:09:38] piranha: это же тоже макросы, только убогие
[00:09:52] deepwalker: да нет, я там просто не понял, как эе это использоваться, из текста
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[00:10:21] piranha: а
[00:10:25] piranha: типа примера нет?
[00:10:41] deepwalker: ага
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[00:11:03] piranha: да, реально нет...
[00:11:24] piranha: с такими вещами лажа в том, что выдумать вменяемый пример напряжно
[00:11:25] piranha: :(
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[00:13:10] piranha: гг
[00:13:15] piranha: deepwalker: вылетает, так шо ничо не придумаю )
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[00:13:45] deepwalker: надо пошукать про лисп наверное
[00:13:47] piranha: http://stackoverflow.com/q/76364/280598
[00:13:49] deepwalker: макросы эти
[00:13:56] piranha: ну я лисповые макросы в конфиге юзаю
[00:13:58] piranha: щас покажу
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[00:14:06] piranha: http://hg.piranha.org.ua/conf/file/4acddd7f24ac/.emacs.d/init.el#l22
[00:14:08] piranha: вот макрос
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[00:14:36] piranha: http://hg.piranha.org.ua/conf/file/4acddd7f24ac/.emacs.d/load/keys_init.el#l23
[00:14:38] piranha: вот юзается
[00:15:02] piranha: без макроса пришлось бы писать так:
(global-set-key (kbd "C-c k") '(lambda () (kill-buffer nil)))
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[00:15:22] piranha: избавился от ' и одного уровня скобочек :)
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[00:16:10] deepwalker: ага
[00:16:14] deepwalker: а сам макрос где?
[00:16:56] piranha: выше ссылка на init.el
[00:16:58] piranha: там defmacro
[00:17:30] piranha: если б я написал функцию, а не макрос, то я б так не сумел сделать
[00:17:31] deepwalker: ай
[00:17:48] piranha: потому что функция бы исполнила аргументы до того, как принять
[00:18:06] piranha: т.е. мне пришлось бы писать вот так:
(global-set-key (kbd "C-c k") (fun-for-bind '(kill-buffer nil)))
[00:18:10] piranha: в случае функции
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[00:18:23] piranha: чтоб передать список, который не исполнился бы
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[00:18:43] piranha: deepwalker: макросы - это почти как рекурсия. Тяжело понять, пока не начнëшь использовать
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[00:19:04] deepwalker: а чем сложна рекурсия?
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[00:19:27] piranha: тем, что пока ты еë не понял, ты еë не поймëшь
[00:19:31] piranha: ;D
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[00:20:01] piranha: серьëзно, как работает иф ты можешь понять и без использования
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[00:20:22] piranha: а вот рекурсию без попыток заюзать понять тяжело обычно
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[00:22:03] deepwalker: пару раз переполнить стек, куда ж без этого
[00:22:17] deepwalker: а хвостовая есть в магпи?
[00:23:02] piranha: там даже производительности нет
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[00:23:22] piranha: http://aresemicolonsnecessaryinjavascript.com/
[00:23:23] piranha: :D
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[00:25:47] deepwalker: а я забил на ; в яваскрипт
[00:25:54] deepwalker: я ленивый
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[00:26:02] deepwalker: я в питоне : забываю писать
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[00:26:36] deepwalker: правда он не проставляет автоматически : (
[00:27:10] piranha: :)
[00:27:15] piranha: магпай проставляет
[00:27:16] piranha: ;D
[00:27:39] deepwalker: ладно, пойду я спать
[00:27:55] deepwalker: но вечер бул интересен, всем спасибо
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[00:55:38] Zubchick: привет, никто не работал с celery?
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[00:56:18] Zubchick: я запустил ее от рута по глупости
[00:56:34] Zubchick: теперь не могу рестартонуть способом написаным в документации
[00:57:03] Zubchick: когда делаю ps auxww | grep celeryd | awk '{print $2}' | xargs kill
[00:57:06] Zubchick: пишет kill: Operation not permitted
[00:57:26] Zubchick: а мне нужно перезапустить :)
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[00:58:30] piranha: сделай sudo -s перед командой
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[00:58:45] Zubchick: делал
[00:58:57] piranha: та ну
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[00:59:09] piranha: и шо, всë равно нот пермиттед?
[00:59:14] Zubchick: да
[00:59:23] Zubchick: что уж ты меня держишь за дурака :)
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[00:59:40] piranha: да, но иначе мне придëтся поверить в то, что я дурак
[00:59:43] piranha: шо ж делать
[00:59:54] piranha: Zubchick: т.е. ты от рута не можешь его прибить, что ли?
[01:00:07] Zubchick: именно
[01:00:07] piranha: сделай ps aux | grep celeryd, ты его видишь?
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[01:00:32] Zubchick: вижу десяток процессов
[01:00:43] Zubchick: запущеных от рута
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[01:01:30] Zubchick: http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/3293/142fq.png
[01:01:34] Zubchick: пруфы)
[01:01:50] piranha: эй
[01:02:05] piranha: вот тот твой вопрос был легитимным, не держу ли я тебя
[01:02:15] piranha: потому что sudo -s - это отдельная команда
[01:02:20] piranha: сначала делаешь sudo -s
[01:02:23] piranha: потом жмëшь энтер
[01:02:27] piranha: а потом всю эту херь
[01:02:28] piranha: %)
[01:03:01] Zubchick: О0
[01:03:08] Zubchick: видимо я и правда дурак
[01:03:11] Zubchick: :D
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[01:03:23] piranha: )))
[01:03:24] piranha: бывает
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[01:03:43] piranha: в принципе если поставить sudo перед xargs, тоже сработает
[01:03:51] Zubchick: вот
[01:03:59] Zubchick: именно что я ставил
[01:04:07] Zubchick: и не работало %)
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[01:04:15] piranha: так ты ж перед ps ставил
[01:04:20] piranha: а не перед xargs
[01:04:24] piranha: или этого на скрине не видно просто?
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[01:04:36] Zubchick: да не, опять я туплю
[01:04:55] Zubchick: забыл что сработает тока на s
[01:04:58] Zubchick: *ps
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[01:08:40] Zubchick: еще вопрос тогда уж))
[01:08:47] Zubchick: как перенаправить вывод в файл?
[01:08:51] Zubchick: python manage.py celeryd -l INFO -B >> ~/celery.log
[01:09:00] Zubchick: не срабатывает че-то -_-
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[01:13:34] Zubchick: а все, разобрался :)
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[09:08:02] bobry: magpie doesn't have floating point numbers
[09:08:03] bobry: lolwhat
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[10:18:53] Hanzo is now dnd
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[10:20:00] erraen is now online
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[10:24:17] deepwalker: bobry, может просто пока не поддерживает
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[10:24:32] deepwalker: я сомневаюсь, что он решил их вообще не поддерживать
[10:24:52] bobry: deepwalker, ну да, там yet написано
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[10:25:20] bobry: вообще приятный синтаксис у языка
[10:25:25] bobry: /me очень вдохновился
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[10:35:17] bobry: deepwalker, ты не пробовал https://github.com/saucelabs/monocle ?
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[10:35:44] bobry: фишка с @_o просто классная :)
[10:35:58] alecs is now online
[10:35:59] deepwalker: неа, не пробовал
[10:36:05] deepwalker: прикольно : )
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[10:37:20] bobry: «It's true, this violates Python's convention that underscores indicate variables for internal use. But rules are for breaking. Live a little.»
[10:37:21] bobry: :D
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[11:13:10] wiz is now online
[11:13:45] wiz: «За что я люблю PHP, так это за то, что гениальные вещи на нем пишутся в несколько строчек.» :3
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[11:16:20] bobry: толсто
[11:17:05] bobry: реквестирую решение travelling salesman problem за полиномиальное время в несколько строчек на php :D
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[11:17:48] wiz: да там и без TSP гениальный код по выдаче if-modified-since
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[11:20:54] bobry: покеж?
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[11:21:18] bobry: вообще php уникален в том смысле что написать на нем говно ваще нефига не стоит
[11:21:33] wiz: http://written.ru/articles/technologies/site_building/if_modified_since
[11:22:07] wiz: date2unixstamp - вполне гениально ящитаю
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[11:23:55] bobry: :D
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[11:24:02] bobry: там кстати такая фигня с datetime
[11:24:14] bobry: я тут имел неудовольствие ковыряться пару недель назад
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[11:42:24] piranha is now I don't smile for pictures. I smile because it rocks.
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[12:03:52] piranha is now I don't smile for pictures. I smile because it rocks.
[12:04:46] deepwalker: PHP он как засранный подъезд. Когда заходишь в чистый, и насрать то в углу как-то неудобно, а в PHP прям никаких стеснений.
[12:05:01] bobry: :D
[12:05:12] erraen is now online
[12:05:40] bobry: piranha, <nerd>открой для себя (load "path/to/file" t) шобы не проверять file-exists-p</nerd>
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[12:05:58] piranha: :)
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[12:06:38] bobry: а, у тебя выше для el-get'a так и написано
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[12:19:12] piranha: lua-mode кончаный, пытается какой-то странный аббрев-моде включить
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[12:21:23] deepwalker: вбросил в твиттер, инетересно, мне напишут гневные ответы? : )
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[12:21:47] bobry: piranha, там их несколько вроде — был какой то форк
[12:22:04] piranha: bobry: там в луа-моде явно вызывается abbrev-mode 1
[12:22:12] piranha: я вот думаю, как бы вокруг него переопределить этот аббрев-моде
[12:22:48] Zubchick is now online
[12:22:53] bobry: на хук повесь abbrev-mode -1 :)
[12:22:58] bobry: lua-mode-hook в смысле
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[12:23:08] piranha: дык лажа!
[12:23:19] evrial is now xa
[12:23:25] piranha: он-то выключится, но блядский аббрев спрашивает каждый раз, куда сохранять аббревиатуры
[12:23:34] piranha: а я не хочу их сохранять ну никак ваще, зачем они мне нужны
[12:23:35] piranha: :(
[12:23:44] bobry: при загрузке lua-mode?
[12:23:53] piranha: да
[12:23:55] piranha: ща покажу
[12:24:00] piranha: а, ну шо я буду показывать
[12:24:03] piranha: просто промпт возникает
[12:24:06] piranha: пиндецки тупо
[12:24:23] bobry: может через devadvice?
[12:24:36] bobry: только я не знаю как проверить вызван он из lua-mode или нет
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[12:25:01] piranha: та я б ваще его нахер вырубил
[12:25:10] piranha: я ясниппет юзаю, а abbrev-mode мне не нужен
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[12:25:15] piranha: можно насмерть его переопределить, конечно
[12:25:29] bobry: ну это как то совсем криво
[12:25:37] piranha: piranha@gto ~> ls -ld .gnome2
drwx------ 2 piranha staff 68 Jun 25 2010 .gnome2
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[12:25:43] bobry: с другой стороны если у тебя lua-mode в el-get, проще наверное закомментить нафик эту строчку
[12:25:44] piranha: что это может быть такое, интересно? :D
[12:25:57] piranha: bobry: да ну, а потом апдейт и всë в жо? :)
[12:26:11] bobry: не так часто он апдейтится
[12:26:17] piranha: да, но я забуду всë равно
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[12:26:39] bobry: тогда читай info про defadvice :)
[12:26:45] bobry: там точно есть before
[12:26:52] bobry: повесить на abbrev-mode
[12:27:05] piranha: ага
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[12:29:55] altego is now dnd
[12:30:13] piranha: шото не выходит
[12:30:14] piranha: :(
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[12:30:39] bobry: а как ты делаешь?
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[12:31:05] piranha: (defadvice abbrev-mode (around disable-abbrev-mode)
"Disable abbrev-mode completely, so it won't be called by lua-mode"
(message "abbrev-mode is disabled"))
[12:31:10] piranha: http://www.gnu.org/s/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Around_002dAdvice.html#Around_002dAdvice
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[12:31:20] piranha: By default, advice does not take effect when you define it—only when you activate advice for the function that was advised
[12:31:22] piranha: !
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[12:31:31] bobry: ну да
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[12:32:10] piranha: yahooo
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[12:32:23] piranha: бля
[12:32:24] piranha: не яху
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[12:32:55] bobry: ты как собираешься проверять шо оно из lua-mode вызвано?
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[12:33:08] piranha: никак
[12:33:13] piranha: глубоко насрать. откуда вызвано
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[12:33:46] piranha: сцуко
[12:33:49] piranha: не помогает нихера
[12:34:15] bobry: (setq abbrev-mode '(lambda nil))?
[12:34:25] bobry: если ты им один фик не польщуешься?
[12:34:44] bobry: а шо не помогает то? ты делаешь around и просто не вызываешь оборачиваемую функцию?
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[12:34:56] piranha: да
[12:35:12] bobry: http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/elisp/html_node/Activation-of-Advice.html
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[12:35:22] piranha: не помогает то, шо всë ок, когда емакс запущен, но при запуске всë равно спрашивает, куда сохранять аббревы бля
[12:35:26] piranha: пипец какой-то тупо
[12:35:33] bobry: при запуске чего?
[12:35:35] piranha: мля, забодало, какого перца
[12:35:37] piranha: емакса
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[12:35:49] piranha: тупо ад какой-то
[12:35:53] piranha: ладно, вырублю топором пока
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[12:37:56] piranha: адски
[12:37:59] piranha: топор не помог
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[12:38:15] piranha: а!
[12:38:21] piranha: еще функция define-abbrev-table
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[12:38:26] piranha: именно она возмущается
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[12:40:33] piranha: блядь...
[12:40:37] piranha: ужас
[12:40:46] serg.makar is now online
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[12:40:57] altego is now online
[12:41:04] piranha: я умудрился дефадвайсом емакс загнать в жопу
[12:41:14] piranha: так шо из него даж выйти нельзя было :Д
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[12:42:25] bobry: ))
[12:42:40] bobry: можете тебе проще показать ему куда сейвить abbrevы?
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[12:44:01] piranha: я уже вдуплился
[12:44:05] piranha: есть переменная save-abbrevs
[12:44:24] piranha: она по дефолту t, и спрашивает. Чтоб не спрашивало, надо либо nil, либо silent
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[12:45:09] piranha: эпик вин
[12:45:11] piranha: нил помог
[12:45:13] piranha: фух
[12:45:16] erraen is now online
[12:45:25] bobry: congrats
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[12:46:51] piranha: да, к чему это я
[12:46:54] piranha: http://www.qgrep.com/
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[12:49:32] bobry: Linux
Coming soon, please email brad@qgrep.com to express your interest.
[12:49:34] bobry: ...
[12:49:40] altego is now online
[12:49:41] altego is now online
[12:49:44] bobry: давно хотел чего нибудь на замену grep-find
[12:50:00] piranha: напиши ему, чо там
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[12:50:13] piranha: он его пакует в бинарники просто, вместе с луа
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[12:50:21] piranha: исходники не даëт, почему - хз
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[12:53:14] bobry: странный тип
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[12:53:48] piranha: кстати
[12:53:51] piranha: debian 6.0 вышел
[12:53:55] piranha: можно праздновать
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[12:55:49] deepwalker: можно забить на 2.5?
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[12:59:41] piranha: я думаю, что нужно пару дней на то, чтоб привыкнуть к этой мысли
[12:59:43] piranha: а потом можно забить
[12:59:44] piranha: ;D
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[13:00:52] piranha: сцуко, зеркала...
[13:00:54] bobry: напомню вам что у godaddy еще 2.3 и 2.4
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[13:01:54] piranha: кого б это волновало
[13:02:03] wiz: piranha, а с фига ли не 2.7?
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[13:02:13] piranha: wiz: в дебиане 2.6
[13:02:18] wiz: piranha, а с фига ли не 2.7?
[13:02:22] piranha: debian >> everything else
[13:02:28] piranha: ах да
[13:02:32] piranha: и в макоси 2.6 тоже щас
[13:02:35] piranha: :P
[13:02:37] wiz: у них же следующий релиз будет хрен знает когда
[13:02:42] wiz: сразу с 3.0 чтоль?
[13:02:47] piranha: сомневаюсь
[13:02:59] piranha: но я с 2.5 жил, пока дебиан с 2.6 не вышел
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[13:03:01] piranha: всë нормально
[13:03:03] piranha: %)
[13:03:03] wiz: сирани стейбл-фаги
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[13:04:09] piranha: а шо вы предлагаете, га?
[13:04:18] piranha: ну да, дистрибутивы мучают нас
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[13:05:14] piranha: ëпт
[13:05:17] erraen is now online
[13:05:21] piranha: мне dist-upgrade предлагает апач2 втулить
[13:05:26] piranha: можно ли как-то узнать, почему?
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[13:15:20] piranha: можно :)
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[13:22:45] wiz: /me предлагает 2.7
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[13:30:40] piranha: wiz: ты плох, как дист-апгрейд
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[13:31:52] wiz: да
[13:31:57] wiz: /me второй день с 38+
[13:32:04] wiz: а чем 2.7 плох?
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[13:33:41] piranha: да он отличен
[13:33:44] piranha: но его ни у кого нет
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[14:58:09] tramx33884: cur.execute("""INSERT INTO users (login, password, ip, speed) VALUES ('%s', '%s', '%s', '%s')""") (login, password, ipaddress, speed)
[14:58:31] tramx33884: подскажите как правильно запрос делать
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[15:44:34] gigimon: подскажите такой вопрос, как бы мне вывести текст в консоль без преобразования кодировки?
[15:45:20] gigimon: т.е. есть строка: text = """(/static/thumbnails/2011/2/6/c5d92fbe4f8f4fc3a157312acfcd376e.png)"""
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[15:45:43] gigimon: она юникодная, но если в ipython ее вывести, то видно что урсские буквы нифига не юникодные
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[15:46:00] gigimon: но если выводить как print то о нпреобразует их и показывает как надо в консоли
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[15:46:27] gigimon: как строку вывести без принта, при встроенном в джангу сервере?
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[15:47:36] Typhon: sys.stdout.write + repr
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[15:50:53] gigimon: спс
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[15:51:13] gigimon: не могу понять, почему там русский текст не в юникоде
[15:51:31] deepwalker: gigimon, где?
[15:51:32] gigimon: если база в юникоде (там показывается ок), джанга в юникоде
[15:52:09] gigimon: в джанге фильтр markdown написал
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[15:52:13] gigimon: и плагин к нему
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[15:52:24] wiz: кто-то по пути в str перевёл
[15:52:39] gigimon: пути?
[15:52:42] gigimon: всмысле
[15:53:40] wiz: между базой и чем там ещё
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[15:53:58] gigimon: куды копать?
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[15:54:08] gigimon: вся база в утф8, по-умолчанию, конекты
[15:54:10] gigimon: в утф8
[15:54:16] gigimon: где еще может быть %)
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[15:55:27] Typhon: utf8 != unicode
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[15:55:36] Typhon: база в утф8, скорее, не в юникоде
[15:55:37] gigimon: ну да...
[15:55:41] gigimon: в юникоде
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[15:56:07] gigimon: все таблицы utf8_unicode_ci
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[15:57:45] gigimon: хм, а вот соединение в utf8_general
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[15:59:15] piranha: база не может быть в юникоде
[15:59:22] piranha: юникод - это не способ хранения, это только способ представления
[15:59:25] piranha: база в utf8
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[16:03:41] gigimon: хм
[16:03:53] gigimon: вывел то, что идет в markdown через repr
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[16:03:59] gigimon: u'(550)'
[16:04:01] gigimon: в юникоде ж...
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[16:04:39] gigimon: значит трабла в markdown, расширения написаные мной, не реагируют на юникод...
[16:05:15] gigimon: пойду копать его исходники
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[16:13:16] piranha: тебе драйвер базы юникод отдаëт
[16:13:53] gigimon: это я уже понял, походу дела markdown пользовательские плагины плохо компилит, без поддержки юникода
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[16:21:35] gigimon: да, я был прав
[16:21:57] gigimon: в markdown пользовательские inline компилируются без поддержки юникода
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[16:22:35] gigimon: как думаете, стоит отправить багрепорт или так и задумано? т.к. это обойти можно переопределить метод
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[16:24:42] gigimon: ха, в репо уже пофикисили :)
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[16:47:30] gigimon: а почему pip когда ставлю pip install -e git://gitorious.org/python-markdown/mainline.git#egg=Markdown то устанавливает не в site-packages?
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[16:48:17] gigimon: можно ему сказать как-то чтобы ставил в site-packages?
[16:48:22] bobry: gigimon, он в src ставит
[16:48:24] bobry: по моему нельзя
[16:48:35] bobry: зачем?
[16:48:46] gigimon: bobry: ну хочется в 1 месте все
[16:48:50] gigimon: хотя с другйо стороны правильно
[16:49:01] gigimon: пойду сделаю папку для либ из репозиториев
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[16:49:16] bobry: ну дык делай virtualenv
[16:49:21] bobry: шобы все в одном месте
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[17:05:26] piranha: акуэнна
[17:05:33] piranha: тока шо обнаружил ошмëтки от руткита в системе
[17:05:43] erraen is now online
[17:05:45] piranha: через экзим проломились 15-16 декабря
[17:05:55] piranha: тока какой-то он был неполный, непонятно, но вроде всë вычистил
[17:06:05] altego is now online
[17:06:10] umi is now online
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[17:07:03] piranha: если кто-то еще дебиан юзает, я б рекомендовал повтыкать
[17:07:21] piranha: http://www.reddit.com/r/netsec/related/en650/details_of_the_root_kit_that_got_installed_on_my/
[17:07:35] h3g is now online
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[17:08:59] bobry: http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/python/113243/
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[17:09:10] bobry: даже сказать то особо нечего
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[17:12:23] piranha: бррр
[17:12:30] piranha: почему при судо -с может меняться шелл
[17:12:36] piranha: это настройка судо такая может быть, что ли?
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[17:23:39] piranha: ога
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[17:25:12] piranha: supervisor всë-таки убог
[17:25:47] erraen is now online
[17:26:01] wiz: чем?
[17:26:07] wiz: какие альтернативы?
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[17:31:49] piranha: например, чтоб посмотреть логи, почему зафейлился старт, надо шагать ножками далеко и долго
[17:31:53] piranha: альтернативу пока не выдумал
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[17:40:49] wiz: supervisorctl tail progame не?
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[18:07:59] Typhon: http://paste.in.ua/ 502
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[18:08:17] piranha: wiz: а стдерр?
[18:08:22] piranha: Typhon: да, и я не понимаю, почему - оно запущено и даже работает
[18:08:28] piranha: я вижу с помощью curl localhost:5005
[18:08:41] piranha: та же херня с byteflow.su, уже работает, но нгинкс шото гонит
[18:08:42] piranha: :(
[18:08:49] wiz: я вообще в /tmp/err* смотрю
[18:08:58] piranha: но зато я их падлюк по своим виртуаленвам поразводил
[18:09:04] piranha: клëво, виртуаленв жжод
[18:09:12] piranha: но шо с нгинксом - я не понимаю...
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[18:09:40] wiz: попробуй выключить и включить (=
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[18:10:29] piranha: а, не, трак не цей во :)
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[18:14:21] piranha: нгинкс идиот или шо
[18:14:25] piranha: wiz: пробовал уже..
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[18:14:52] xa4a: piranha: error_log же?
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[18:15:00] piranha: xa4a: грит не могу достучаться
[18:15:08] piranha: а я курлом значит могу?
[18:15:11] maxim.zemlyakov is now online
[18:15:14] xa4a: а, у тя там не визги?
[18:15:29] piranha: нгинкс проксирует в черрипаи разные
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[18:17:50] piranha: нгинкс ахренел
[18:17:58] piranha: когда слушаешь все порты, то он достукивается
[18:18:01] piranha: подозреваю ипв6
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[18:19:15] piranha: я схожу с ума
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[18:21:53] piranha: 2011/02/06 18:15:04 [error] 4441#0: *48 connect() failed (111: Connection refused) while connecting to upstream, client: 67.195.114.58, server: byteflow.su, request: "GET /ticket/102?format=rss HTTP/1.0", upstream: "http://127.0.0.1:3050/ticket/102?format=rss", host: "byteflow.su"
[18:21:55] piranha: вот такое пишет
[18:22:08] piranha: я уже потрогал руками, curl http://127.0.0.1:3050/ работает без проблем
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[18:25:13] wiz: а зачем у тебя nginx лезет на 67.195?
[18:25:22] wiz: севрер то небось на локалхост забиндился
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[18:26:00] wiz: а не
[18:26:23] wiz: странная фигня
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[18:27:39] piranha: какой-то ад
[18:27:45] piranha: если я запускаю тракд, то всë ок
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[18:30:29] piranha: фух, трак починил
[18:30:38] piranha: такое ощущение, что нгинксу именно черрипай не нравится
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[18:33:43] xa4a: а что черипай говорит?
[18:33:49] xa4a: нгинкс не приходит?
[18:34:06] xa4a: файрвол?
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[18:34:23] xa4a: нуэ… strace!
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[18:39:56] piranha: пистец
[18:40:01] piranha: с пастой заработало
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[18:40:04] piranha: Typhon: починил
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[18:40:12] piranha: xa4a: а черипай молчит, падла
[18:40:15] piranha: ничего я не понял
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[18:55:31] xa4a: strace nginx
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[18:56:13] piranha: ну его в жо, уже всë работает
[18:56:21] piranha: кстати, со сваргой на черрипае - всë нормально
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[19:21:44] webninja: добрый вечер джентльмены
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[19:22:13] webninja: подскажите
[19:22:19] webninja: вообщем есть вьюха
[19:22:34] webninja: которая просто отображает как бы форму
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[19:22:46] webninja: которую пользователь заполняет и нажимает кнопку
[19:22:53] webninja: вот только действие как бы не быстрое
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[19:23:11] webninja: из вьюхи вызывается функция большая которая делает некий процесс
[19:23:33] webninja: чтобы юзер не втыкал я хочу аяксом может информацию выводить
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[19:23:54] webninja: как бы половчее сделать
[19:23:55] webninja: ?
[19:24:01] webninja: можно из логгера писать?
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[19:26:54] xa4a: э
[19:27:04] xa4a: из логгера можно писать, но это тебе не поможет
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[19:27:28] xa4a: если ты уже делаешь аяксом, то пусть себе работает долго, че
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[19:28:17] webninja: не ну пусть канешно но хотелось бы знать на какой стадии процесс
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[19:29:15] xa4a: джанго?
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[19:30:24] xa4a: может это http://ask.github.com/celery/getting-started/introduction.html
[19:30:27] deepwalker: piranha, http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/algorithm/113250/
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[19:30:37] deepwalker: говорят луа тормоз
[19:31:07] piranha: хы
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[19:31:26] deepwalker: но вообще рейтрейсер писать что на том, что на том, это круто
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[19:31:39] piranha: да неважно
[19:31:41] piranha: очень странно
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[19:31:46] deepwalker: видел как-то чел написал рейтрейсер, чисто по сферам на sse2
[19:31:56] deepwalker: вот там все летало просто
[19:31:57] piranha: это ж тупо номерокрошился, луаджит должен был хорошо сработать…
[19:31:58] webninja: недавно зарубежный коллега сказал по секрету что луа это бест скриптинг лэнгуидж
[19:32:06] bobry: webninja, очереди очереди
[19:32:18] webninja: ммм
[19:32:21] webninja: не понял
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[19:32:36] piranha: deepwalker: неясно, в общем, шо за хрень, но лень разбираться %)
[19:32:48] Typhon: хабр -- хуйня
[19:32:49] Typhon: простите
[19:33:06] bobry: замеры в вакууме какие то
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[19:33:27] bobry: а еще бесит что код не на github, но это уже gh nazi
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[19:34:23] piranha: Typhon: да не за что прощать
[19:34:26] piranha: так и есть
[19:34:27] piranha: %)
[19:34:42] piranha: bobry: бесит не то, что он не на гитхабе
[19:34:50] piranha: бесит то, что его нужно качать, чтоб посмотреть
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[19:34:59] bobry: ну я это и имел ввиду
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[19:35:13] Typhon: в rar, наверное? )
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[19:35:31] piranha: в зипе
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[19:36:26] Typhon: кстати, не понял, почему это в "алгоритмах". я впервые за чёрт знает сколько времени добавил себе в рсс записи с хабра (бложек "алгоритмы"), потому что там был серия неплохие потсов, а они туда суют говно какое-то про бенчмарки.
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[19:46:39] webninja: http://dumpz.org/31735/
[19:46:45] webninja: вообщем как то так. халп!
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[19:47:00] bobry: webninja, джанга синхронная, long polling не прокатит
[19:47:05] bobry: в смысле не получится
[19:47:10] webninja: ээээ
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[19:47:14] bobry: есть пара примеров как это делать с gevent, если интересно
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[19:47:18] webninja: что за лонгпулинг?
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[19:47:28] bobry: ну када ты запрос долго держишь
[19:47:30] webninja: давай примеры
[19:47:48] webninja: погоди как синхронная это только дев сервер однопоточный и синхронный
[19:47:55] bobry: http://prg10001.blogspot.com/2009/09/simpler-long-polling-with-django-and.html
[19:48:29] bobry: ну она синхронная в любом случае, потому что на каждый запрос ты должен явно вернуть response
[19:48:55] bobry: и никакие другие запросы обрабатываться не будут
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[20:02:59] webninja: бля твиттер же как то новые твитты рисует динамически
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[20:03:29] wiz: bobry, а если её внутри гринлетного контейнера запустить?
[20:03:51] bobry: wiz, да можно, а профит?
[20:04:00] wiz: ну лонг-полл же
[20:04:03] bobry: webninja, ну дык твиттер и не на джанге
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[20:04:08] wiz: пока одни спят, другие работают
[20:04:10] bobry: погугли на тему ajax push и long polling
[20:04:12] webninja: http://ask.github.com/celery/getting-started/introduction.html вот кстати похоже не то
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[20:06:09] webninja: спасиб ща погугля. блин я думал это просто довольно таки
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[20:06:45] webninja: типа как нибудь логгер присобачить =)
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[20:10:17] webninja: так а если я результаты работы буду сохранять где нибудь неужели со стороны клиента не получится забрать?
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[20:12:00] Typhon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypertext_Transfer_Protocol
[20:12:03] Typhon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Request-response
[20:12:09] Typhon: webninja, ^^^
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[20:14:38] webninja: бля ну как то же выводят прогресс бары загрузки файлов к примеру
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[20:15:42] webninja: мне бы прогресс бара было бы достаточно
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[20:17:45] xa4a: прогресбары флешечками рисуют часто
[20:17:52] bobry: ага
[20:18:06] bobry: даже в основном ими
[20:18:16] webninja: хм
[20:18:23] webninja: я тож хочу флэшечкой )
[20:18:26] bobry: но вообще можно взять какой нить tornado и на нем сделать часть требующую long polling
[20:18:39] webninja: торнадо это вебсервер?
[20:18:45] bobry: web framework
[20:19:01] webninja: ладно гляну. пока сделаю по простому
[20:19:06] webninja: спасиб
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[20:20:41] bobry: товарищи, а иде можно почитать про реализацию стандартных контейнеров в питоне? dict / tuple / list?
[20:20:47] bobry: или тока код?
[20:21:06] Typhon: в коде обширные комменты
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[20:21:26] Typhon: + на питоновской вике можно поискать полезные страницы.
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[20:22:35] bobry: у меня с чтением си проблемы, попробую вики окучить
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[20:23:02] Typhon: так там комменты есть
[20:23:12] Typhon: которые словами объясняют :)
[20:23:18] bobry: http://wiki.python.org/moin/LocalUserGroups#RussianFederation
[20:23:25] bobry: *facepalm*
[20:23:50] bobry: вот у меня была мысля в спб организовать че нить, но я сам то не большой спец — о чем вещать? :)
[20:23:59] Typhon: да, я хотел поправить, лобавить чятик туда
[20:24:04] Typhon: *добавить
[20:24:09] wiz: а зачем вообще LUG нужны?
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[20:24:24] bobry: wiz, LUG? почему L то?
[20:24:32] xa4a: local
[20:24:50] bobry: ну типа обмен знаниями, мини презентации — не интересно?
[20:24:50] wiz: ну кроме как для неосиляторов английского я не могу придумать назначния
[20:25:12] bobry: да ну, это же другое
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[20:25:23] wiz: полторы перезнтации за пол года это маловато для UG
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[20:26:08] bobry: я бы с удовольствием на eupycon скатался или на uspycon, но это серьезно стоит. посему было бы круто иметь локальный ивент.
[20:26:17] bobry: полторы презентации? it depends, я думаю
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[20:26:32] bobry: разные UG то бывают
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[20:27:25] wiz: локальный эвент на 20 человек ага
[20:27:55] xa4a: exception так и начинался, говорят
[20:27:57] bobry: почему бы и нет
[20:28:13] xa4a: а к 10-му - несколько сотен уже было
[20:28:40] wiz: а потом народ таки выучил английский ((=
[20:28:45] bobry: бонус локального ивента перед статьей / видео / слайдами — можно сразу уточнить, спросить итп все шо надо, лично мне этого часто не хватает
[20:29:16] bobry: да при чем тут английский — хочешь на английском вещай, какая разница то
[20:29:33] Typhon: ещё знакомства, поиск толковых работников/работодателей.
[20:29:37] bobry: да-да
[20:29:44] bobry: кстате, почему python до сих пор не на hg?
[20:29:48] bobry: как вообще такое может быть?
[20:29:48] wiz: мечты...
[20:29:53] wiz: вроде на hg же
[20:30:01] Typhon: bobry, hg.python.org
[20:30:04] bobry: CPython is developed using Subversion ...
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[20:30:15] Typhon: там готовятся
[20:30:17] bobry: в официальной документации написано
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[20:30:34] Typhon: http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0374/ http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0385/
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[20:30:56] wiz: http://hg.python.org/
[20:31:01] bobry: да я зашел уже, ага
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[20:31:24] bobry: 12.12, чета они опаздали
[20:31:27] wiz: что-то оно мне походу решило за раз весь лог cpython выдать....
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[20:31:47] Typhon: wiz, долго работает, да.
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[20:32:45] wiz: пагиторы для слабаков
[20:32:50] wiz: *пагинаторы
[20:33:40] bobry: :)
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[20:35:12] bobry: блин, лучше код pypy читать :)
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[20:35:17] bobry: правда там комментов по меньше буит
[20:35:34] bobry: кстати никто здесь не контрибутит туда?
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[20:36:00] Typhon: так если тебе нужна реализация cpython то и читать надо их исходники, в pypy другая реализация может быть
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[20:36:37] Typhon: http://en.wordpress.com/tag/pythons-innards/ вот ещё серия по кишкам
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[20:37:54] bobry: ty
[20:38:22] Tony: кстати всегда интересно было в GAE CPython чистый?
[20:38:29] Tony: или со своими перделками что-то?
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[20:39:48] piranha: pip собака, когда говоришь пакет обновить, все зависимости обновляет
[20:39:51] piranha: западло
[20:40:10] piranha: Tony: cpython
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[21:12:18] deepwalker: не пойму сути, никак http://dahlia.bitbucket.org/futureutils/
[21:12:42] deepwalker: хрена ли оно делает то?
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[21:17:32] bobry: deepwalker, https://bitbucket.org/dahlia/futureutils/src/17788eac2457/futureutils.py
[21:17:38] bobry: тока не втыкаю нафига там thread
[21:17:46] bobry: типа deferToThread шоли
[21:19:07] deepwalker: та непонятно вообще
[21:19:49] piranha: deepwalker: оно в бекграунде пожирает твой итератор
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[21:19:57] deepwalker: ааа
[21:19:59] bobry: ну дык дефер ту тред
[21:20:04] deepwalker: а что так мерзко написано? : )
[21:20:32] piranha: я не виноват
[21:20:33] bobry: а почему promise то?
[21:20:34] piranha: :)
[21:20:39] bobry: оно же ничего не вернет
[21:20:43] bobry: и не "получит значение"
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[21:20:47] piranha: блин, я тащусь, нашëл группу пающие трусы
[21:20:49] piranha: слушаю и ржу
[21:21:00] piranha: http://t.co/oqVQ9wE
[21:21:02] piranha: зацените йадог
[21:21:06] deepwalker: piranha, поделись
[21:21:19] piranha: уже штук 6 клипов посотрел %)
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[21:21:29] piranha: названия жгут - тазик оливье, вафли, западло
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[21:23:14] piranha: всë равно, эта самая клëвая, которую я скинул
[21:23:39] deepwalker: зараза, понятно, но шо конкретно
[21:24:02] piranha: хм, типа не все слова понимаешь?
[21:24:29] piranha: там в принципе совсем простая ж песня, они ж все слова отдельно говорят :)
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[21:26:31] piranha: deepwalker: у них остальные песни на русском
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[21:26:56] deepwalker: : ) да, по ним понимаешь как много потерял из той
[21:27:03] piranha: :)
[21:27:12] piranha: я себе устроил вечер попсы
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[21:27:19] piranha: скачал аргентину-ямайку
[21:27:34] piranha: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIoe9CHZzPg
[21:27:37] piranha: зоцени еще этот йад
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[21:30:54] gigimon: а в джанге можно как-то переобозначив handler404 передавать туда текст?
[21:31:19] piranha: gigimon: какой текст?
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[21:31:29] gigimon: свой )
[21:31:39] gigimon: ну, 404 это просто случай
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[21:31:54] gigimon: хочется для 403 и 500 выводить текст
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[21:31:58] bobry: gigimon, можно
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[21:32:40] gigimon: как?
[21:32:48] bobry: найти бы еще где это в доке
[21:32:50] gigimon: то, что свою вьюхе вижу
[21:33:00] gigimon: но как туда текст передавать?
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[21:33:05] gigimon: помимо request
[21:33:33] gigimon: чтобы где-то делать: типа raise handler403('text')
[21:33:44] bobry: ну POST / PUT / GET — выбирай
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[21:34:01] gigimon: ну, т.е. кроме как в реквест сувать никак
[21:34:02] gigimon: ок
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[21:35:37] xa4a: в респонс
[21:35:45] xa4a: !g django return response
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[21:36:07] bobry: ммм...
[21:36:12] bobry: похоже я не правильно понял вопрос
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[21:37:23] deepwalker: ижачек, OMG
[21:37:33] xa4a: gigimon: return HttpResponseNotFound('lala')
[21:37:36] deepwalker: piranha, что хоть в песне то поется?
[21:37:51] xa4a: там про палстического хирурга жесть
[21:37:57] piranha: deepwalker: про ëжика?
[21:38:02] deepwalker: ага
[21:38:31] piranha: deepwalker: что ëжик жил в лесу, но вылез на дорогу, его там задавила подлая фура, но ëжик превратится в звезду и лапками весь мир обнимет
[21:38:37] piranha: ëжик ftw, в общем
[21:39:00] deepwalker: а, круто, ёжик искупит грехи людские собственной смертью
[21:39:06] piranha: :)
[21:39:11] gigimon: xa4a: хм, а оно пойдет выполнять handler404 указаный? а то я подумал оно сразу выдаст ответ
[21:39:13] piranha: я как-то с этой стороны не смотрел
[21:39:30] xa4a: gigimon: аэ, хз
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[21:57:36] dr.shadow: Здравствуйте!!! Я в Pythonе еще новичок,
ищу разные примеры для изучения языка
нашел игру пятнашки, но выдает ошибку:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "C:\Wing IDE 101\src\debug\tserver\_sandbox.py", line 4, in <module>
#print 'Exiting sandbox process'
File "C:\Wing IDE 101\src\debug\tserver\_sandbox.py", line 15, in Fifteenth
NameError: name 'self' is not defined
код здесь - http://dumpz.org/31758/
брал от суда - http://python.su/blog/public/2008/09/17/igra-15/
помогите!!!! новичку!!!
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[21:59:12] bobry: dr.shadow, думаю лучше начать с какой нить книжки
[21:59:24] bobry: dr.shadow, как с английским?
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[22:01:26] Sevenov: > http://dumpz.org/31758/
Захотелось поплакать.
[22:01:28] Sevenov: bobry, а тебе?
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[22:01:41] bobry: я не смарел
[22:01:58] bobry: ну крутой пример для начала
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[22:02:05] bobry: мне захотелось согласиться с севеновым
[22:02:22] dr.shadow: bobry: с английским средне, но книжки в электронном виде накачал
мне просто этот пример охота посмотреть и понять, в нем Tk используется
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[22:02:41] bobry: dr.shadow, тогда лучше почитать документацию tk imo
[22:02:51] bobry: про пример Sevenov уже все написал
[22:02:53] bobry: верь ему :)
[22:03:19] piranha: dr.shadow: пример ужасный, начать хотя бы с того, что там всего одна проблема - с отступом
[22:03:38] Sevenov: piranha, там не одна проблема.
[22:04:32] dr.shadow: piranha: да я эти отступы куда только не ставил :-)
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[22:04:35] piranha: Sevenov: зависит от определения
[22:04:42] piranha: ошибка одна, но весь код - проблема
[22:04:48] Sevenov: piranha, дыаа
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[22:05:10] piranha: dr.shadow: у меня к тебе серьëзное предложение - забей хер, пример реально ужасный. Код кошмарен. Попробуй напиши консольную утилитку, пока напишешь, лучше будешь понимать, что к чему.
[22:05:50] dr.shadow: piranha: может Вы и правы
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[22:06:07] deepwalker: dr.shadow, та сразу бери джангу, чего уж : )
[22:06:17] piranha: если ты будешь понемногу писать код и встревать в проблемы, нам будет гораздо проще объяснить, в чëм проблема
[22:06:33] evrial is now online
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[22:06:39] piranha: а здесь код написан в стиле "я вчера победил на районной олимпиаде по программированию в 8 классе"
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[22:06:54] deepwalker: а по туториалам джанги учиьт начал просто, потому что я когда вижу что в языке можно сделать 2+2, я реально не понимаю - и чё?
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[22:07:17] deepwalker: везде можно : )
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[22:07:27] piranha: deepwalker: ну, хз, я начинал с написания консольных тулзов
[22:07:28] piranha: =)
[22:07:30] Sevenov: dr.shadow, вот тебе в качестве задания:
$ search.py /path/to/dir/ "дом, который построил джек"
Пусть ищет по файлам эту подстроку в указанной директории
[22:07:59] piranha: dr.shadow: да, реально, если нужны идеи, чего б писать, то можно просто спросить, шото выдумать не особо сложно %)
[22:08:13] xa4a: почему никто не сказал ещё projecteuler.net ?
[22:08:24] xa4a: или spoj.pl
[22:08:30] piranha: о, точно
[22:08:31] Sevenov: piranha, бля, это "дом, который построил джек" пришло в голову из-за тебя :))
[22:08:39] piranha: проект эйлер мне нравится больше
[22:08:44] piranha: Sevenov: я выкупил %))
[22:08:55] piranha: млин
[22:09:01] piranha: bobry: ты project-root не юзаешь?
[22:09:23] deepwalker: Sevenov, поясни
[22:09:36] deepwalker: как связаны дом, джек и piranha?
[22:09:37] Sevenov: deepwalker, что? оО
[22:09:40] Sevenov: а
[22:09:45] Sevenov: Песенка TT34
[22:09:45] bobry: piranha, неа, не осилил
[22:09:51] piranha: bobry: неудачнег
[22:09:56] bobry: :)
[22:10:00] Sevenov: эт чо, ваще имаксовское?
[22:10:01] piranha: так бы со мной мог парицо, чо оно не работает с el-get'ом
[22:10:02] bobry: покеж конфиг?
[22:10:03] Sevenov: *ваще
[22:10:05] Sevenov: *ваще
[22:10:08] piranha: Sevenov: ваще да
[22:10:08] Sevenov: БЛЯ
[22:10:10] Sevenov: ваше
[22:10:11] bobry: как это не работает?
[22:10:18] piranha: bobry: работает, точнее
[22:10:21] piranha: но как-то не так, как раньше
[22:10:36] bobry: обновил el-get? :))
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[22:11:32] Sevenov: deepwalker, я что-то не вкурил, кстати, в https://github.com/Deepwalker/procrustes/blob/master/sample/sample2.py
А почему Form -- Tuple, а не Dict?
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[22:11:48] deepwalker: пример же
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[22:12:03] deepwalker: Там можно String то же как форму поставить
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[22:12:18] deepwalker: и List
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[22:12:32] deepwalker: то есть они равноправны совершенно
[22:12:38] piranha: bobry: та и раньше не работало толком, сча занялся починкой
[22:12:40] piranha: забодало
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[22:12:51] Sevenov: Ну форма-то -- это же key=value.
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[22:13:04] Sevenov: Порядок может быть разным. Или я чего-то не понимаю?
[22:13:19] deepwalker: ну тюпель у тебя просто поля нумерует - form__0, form__1
[22:13:27] Sevenov: А, понятно
[22:13:40] bobry: piranha, покеж че не воркает то?
[22:13:51] Sevenov: О, еще вот хотел спросить. А если я назову my__field -- как оно распарсится?
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[22:14:03] deepwalker: Sevenov, у меня горе, я вбросил про пыхапе, а никто не заплакал
[22:14:03] Sevenov: Может "." юзать как разделитель?
[22:14:18] deepwalker: да, там настройка была такая
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[22:14:30] deepwalker: delimiter
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[22:14:43] Sevenov: deepwalker, ну это был не вброс, это так, обычное дело обычного адекватного кодера :)
[22:14:52] deepwalker: хм, только надо код поправить, чтобы в форме is_valid работал
[22:14:56] Sevenov: а, ок
[22:15:01] bobry: где вброс та?
[22:15:04] bobry: /me все пропустил
[22:15:06] deepwalker: в твиттере
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[22:15:46] deepwalker: http://twitter.com/#!/deepwalker/status/34190875563134976
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[22:16:37] deepwalker: Sevenov, просто is_valid делает deepen, а именно deepen принимает этот параметр
[22:16:55] Sevenov: deepwalker, ага, и flatten еще
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[22:17:08] deepwalker: а, ну да : ) И еще про виджеты не помню
[22:17:18] Sevenov: в еще там id + '__' if id else ''
[22:17:22] Sevenov: ага, в виджетах )
[22:17:24] deepwalker: они должны имена тогда соответственно генерить
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[22:17:28] deepwalker: ну да
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[22:17:42] deepwalker: я просто подумал - а нафиг?
[22:17:53] deepwalker: вот еще волю давать : )
[22:17:55] Sevenov: Ну так-то да
[22:18:07] deepwalker: ну согласен, можно исправить
[22:18:44] Sevenov: /me заметил за собой, что в последнее время стал делать много всякого code review, но сам не исправляет
[22:18:45] Sevenov: :33
[22:19:05] Sevenov: /me ушел гамать в доту, чо.
[22:19:26] deepwalker: f xnj nfrjt ljnf&
[22:19:29] deepwalker: что такое дота?
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[22:19:38] piranha: карта для варкрафта 3
[22:20:08] Sevenov: Warcraft III The Frozen Throne, карта Dota Allstars :)
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[22:22:14] Sevenov: Перед уходом, подкину-ка я вам, пожалуй, вот это: http://armorgames.com/play/10460/tasty-planet
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[22:23:09] Sevenov: deepwalker, ящитаю, если у тебя ведется некий регистр, то почему бы там не держать некоторые общие настройки типа delimiter?
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[22:23:31] deepwalker: ну не уверен
[22:23:46] deepwalker: у тебя могут в разных местах разные настройки быть
[22:24:02] Sevenov: С другой стороны, такая магия неприемлема для обычной библиотеки )
[22:24:09] deepwalker: и еще это влияет на чужой код
[22:24:13] deepwalker: ага
[22:24:40] deepwalker: может кто-то у себя поставил свои разделители, и у него потом все поломается
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[22:26:58] Sevenov: А еще нужны кастомные сообщения для валидаторов )
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[22:27:39] deepwalker: и кастомные валидаторы
[22:27:56] deepwalker: я вообще на все готов, когда мне скажут, что чуют в этом потенциал : )
[22:28:18] Sevenov: Я буду юзать, оно удобно. Даже контрибутить буду :)
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[22:28:34] Sevenov: Только время нужно найти, которого слишком мало
[22:28:39] deepwalker: ага, круто : )
[22:28:52] deepwalker: мне просто самому не совсем понятно - айс или нет
[22:29:08] deepwalker: тут бы на реальной какой-то задаче попинать
[22:29:10] Sevenov: Вот засядем с kiR за один проектик, там возьму сваргу и прокрустес
[22:29:51] deepwalker: по русски просто прокруст : )
[22:30:20] deepwalker: наверное
[22:30:23] Sevenov: Сваргу я форкну и аккуратно солью с нашим внутренним фреймворком. Потом кое что можно будет забрать в сваргу и закрепить хоть часть апи )
[22:30:33] Sevenov: Ага, Прокруст, прозвище аттического разбойника Полипемона
[22:30:38] deepwalker: зараза, у меня мисия в gta4 виснет : (
[22:30:48] deepwalker: говорит какой-то gl error
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[22:31:07] Sevenov: ты в него в гуглохроме 9 с вебгл что ль играешь? )
[22:31:13] deepwalker: в wine
[22:31:17] Sevenov: а
[22:31:20] Sevenov: бедолага
[22:31:21] deepwalker: слайдшоу : )
[22:31:28] Sevenov: СТАВЬ ВИНДУ @ НЕ ЖРИ ГОВНО
:3
[22:31:30] deepwalker: не из-за вайна конечно
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[22:31:45] deepwalker: ни за что
[22:31:53] Sevenov: а из-за гну/пинус
[22:31:58] deepwalker: эта омерзительная поделка редмондских заговорщиков!
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[22:32:24] piranha: плять
[22:32:29] deepwalker: она призвана поработить сознание человека, и в самом мышином курсоре разве не чувствуешь ты хвоста диавола?
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[22:32:31] piranha: надо project-root.el нахрен переписать
[22:32:32] piranha: :(
[22:32:35] piranha: его колбасит
[22:32:49] deepwalker: не, копыто, точно копыто
[22:33:00] deepwalker: растроённое
[22:33:46] Sevenov: Не знаю как у вас, но у меня жизнь за нерзула ))
[22:35:45] piranha: а у меня за оптимуса прайма
[22:36:04] piranha: и если вы щас все вместе не начнëте переписывать в едином порыве project-root.el, я перестану вас защищать от десептиконов
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[22:36:06] piranha: %)
[22:36:20] deepwalker: на украинском мне было понятнее
[22:36:23] deepwalker: чесс слово
[22:36:39] erraen is now online
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[22:36:49] deepwalker: (тут недавно в тикете пришлось гугло переводчик привлекать - скопировали обсуждением на рiдной)
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[22:37:18] piranha: deepwalker: понятнее, чем на чëм?
[22:37:24] deepwalker: я не знаю что такое, но среди питонистов одна украина и три из россии
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[22:37:44] deepwalker: piranha, чем на ваших десиптеконах :)
[22:37:48] deepwalker: и нерзулах
[22:37:58] deepwalker: ну нерзул понятно, что пакость
[22:38:07] piranha: deepwalker: ты не знаешь, что такое десептиконы?
[22:38:11] piranha: что такое оптимус прайм?
[22:38:13] deepwalker: но что за оптимус прайм, клавиатура от лебедева опди
[22:38:15] piranha: ты вообще из этой страны?
[22:38:17] piranha: %)
[22:38:31] piranha: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optimus_Prime_(Transformers)
[22:38:58] deepwalker: а я не смотрел : )
[22:40:06] deepwalker: это ж недавно трансформеры фильм был, да?
[22:40:38] piranha: ну типа да
[22:40:39] piranha: нооооо
[22:40:40] deepwalker: жалких три года
[22:40:45] piranha: как это ты не смотрел трансформеры?!
[22:40:53] piranha: это ж самый эпичный мультег децтва
[22:40:57] piranha: %)
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[22:42:36] deepwalker: что-то припоминаю, там какой-то мелкий был, который умел иллюзии делать?
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[22:43:15] deepwalker: у меня детстве крутой канал, на котором были эти мульты, не ловил совершенно
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[22:46:17] piranha: deepwalker: иллюзии?..
[22:46:21] piranha: они там трансформировались
[22:46:22] piranha: %)
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[22:46:50] deepwalker: ну да, и у них были способности
[22:46:54] deepwalker: у каждого своя
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[22:47:47] piranha: та не, обычно никаких способностей не было
[22:47:51] piranha: их слишком много ж там
[22:47:55] piranha: это ж не вольтрон какой-то
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