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[10:33:12] mishok13: http://teddziuba.com/2011/02/the-case-against-queues.html Дзюба торт
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[10:34:16] _lorien: Вчера разогнался хорошо по дороге с поворотами и улете в сугроб :o)
[10:34:28] bobry: http://groups.google.com/group/mongodb-user/browse_thread/thread/09d020106ab252c9
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[10:34:32] bobry: If you haven't noticed: MongoDB is a NoSQL database and *schemaless*
[10:34:34] bobry: :D
[10:34:47] _lorien: Сука, не успел в занос уйти, потому что рефлекс не выработался )
[10:35:04] bobry: _lorien, адреналин ловишь?
[10:35:09] _lorien: Потом меня джип вытаскивал.
[10:35:20] _lorien: Да честно гря адреналина не оч много было :)
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[10:35:29] bobry: ну вот — все зря
[10:35:37] _lorien: Разве что когда понял, что точно ухожу с траектори в обрыв со снегом :)
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[10:35:56] _lorien: Я ща на курсы контраварийного вождения записался, делаем на озере заносы всякие )
[10:36:21] piranha: какая у вас ща погода?
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[10:36:35] _lorien: яндекс грит, что -15
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[10:36:43] _lorien: недавно снег был, сугробы более-менее
[10:36:59] _lorien: там просто дорога безлюдна и хорошо накатанная, едешь как на гонках :)
[10:37:34] piranha: хех
[10:37:37] piranha: у нас +8 и ветер
[10:38:00] _lorien: Хорошо, конечно, на озере уметь делать управляемый занос, но отрабатывать надо на дороге всё равно :(
[10:38:06] piranha: :)
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[10:39:04] _lorien: Ваще джип хочу :) Ну или седан и джип одновременно :)
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[10:40:07] _lorien: Как минимум я научился рулить рулём на курсах и тормозить импульсно худо-бедно, у меня ABS то нет никакой.
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[10:41:08] piranha: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.folklore.computers/msg/d11e88d27137261b?hl=en
[10:41:20] piranha: _lorien: ABS всë делает хуже
[10:41:29] piranha: абс тормозит лучше только на сухой дороге
[10:41:37] piranha: а если мокрая/снежная/ледяная - то пестец этот абс
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[10:41:44] piranha: на льду ваще не тормозит, трещит только, сволочь
[10:42:02] piranha: приходится долбить педаль так, как без абс ты никогда не делаешь, чтоб оно останавливаться начало
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[10:43:32] _lorien: Ну я всё равно до конца не прочувствовал это торможение, там надо как-то ритм поймать, тогда прям чувствуешь, как машина вгрызается в лёд.
[10:43:42] piranha: :)
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[10:43:49] piranha: короче, тормозить без абс научиться легче
[10:43:55] piranha: потому что с абс еще надо абс обманывать нах
[10:44:17] _lorien: Ну тогда круто, шо я такую клёвую тачиллку купил :)
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[10:44:40] piranha: :)))
[10:44:43] _lorien: Правда отсутствие автозапуска и подогрева зеркал разывает мозг
[10:45:11] _lorien: Т.е. я выхожу из дома, прогреваю двигатель 10 минут, а в этом время хожу и скребу стёкла и зеркала от звёздочек морозных )
[10:45:27] piranha: ну и шо, в Киеве вон 80% людей так делают
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[10:46:16] _lorien: Чо им автозапуск лень поставить? Не может же, что у 80% людей карбюраторные тачки )
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[10:46:56] _lorien: Карбюраторы тоже разные бывает, бывает какой там авторегулятора заслонки, но у меня тупо рычажок :(
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[10:47:39] _lorien: Сегодня привёз с СТО крыло от марк2 :) Поеду на разборы смотреть, подходит ли геометрия крыла/капота от чайзера или кресты для марка
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[10:48:15] piranha: _lorien: оно не так нужно тут
[10:48:20] piranha: *там
[10:48:42] piranha: некрофилия это да, увлекательное занятие
[10:48:46] piranha: особенно когда потеплее децл
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[10:51:17] _lorien: Т.е. карб летом заводится с открытой заслонкой шо ли?
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[10:51:52] piranha: _lorien: ээ… не знаю, я имею в виду, шо когда потеплее, то проще гайки крутить
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[10:53:14] _lorien: Да я только по кнопкам стучать умею на клаве :) Гайки другие чуваки будут крутить.
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[12:35:47] tramx33884: Скажите, в raw_input можно подставить значение по умолчанию?
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[12:41:17] mishok13: http://docs.python.org/library/functions.html#raw_input
[12:41:20] mishok13: ответ отрицательный
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[12:42:04] mishok13: что такое вообще "значение по умолчанию" в контексте функции, которая возвращает байты с stdin?
[12:43:07] tramx33884: пользователь должен ввести какоето значение, и ему предлогается вариант, если его устраивает, он просто жмет enter
[12:43:29] tramx33884: какая функция может это делать?
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[12:44:33] mishok13: text = raw_input()
if not text:
text = 'some default value'
[12:44:49] mishok13: это в качестве ответа
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[12:45:04] tramx33884: спасибо
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[12:45:29] mishok13: сразу предупреждение -- в stdlib нету функций типа do_all_my_work_without_me_having_to_write_some_code()
[12:45:36] mishok13: поэтому прийдется писать код
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[12:53:22] bobry: mishok13 сегодня в ударе :)
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[12:59:04] mishok13: а что такое?
[12:59:13] mishok13: надо было остановиться на ссылке?
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[12:59:28] gigimon: mishok13: надо было...
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[13:00:00] mishok13: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WDK4xAoxCQ
[13:00:15] mishok13: так лучше?
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[13:00:30] gigimon: :)
[13:00:38] gigimon: котэ приплющило
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[13:03:47] xa4a: похоже на http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CC_9aFuEkA
[13:03:51] Typhon: блин, а дзюбу уже кидали сюда, да?
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[13:04:17] mishok13: да, я уже кидал
[13:04:24] mishok13: но как-то не было реакции
[13:04:42] Typhon: охуенненько
[13:04:51] mishok13: xa4a, коты с этим расстройством до такого возраста не доживают, обычно
[13:04:52] Typhon: в продолжение taco bell programming
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[13:05:00] mishok13: дзюба торт
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[13:05:16] mishok13: syslog is the ultimate unix queue бгыгыг
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[13:05:25] Typhon: *нии
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[13:07:11] mishok13: так блядь, обьясните доходчиво, нахуя нужен виртуалэнв?
[13:07:23] mishok13: кроме случаев "тестирование с разными версиями питона"
[13:07:24] bobry: lolwhat?
[13:07:31] mishok13: bobry, ты первый
[13:07:36] mishok13: обьясняй
[13:07:40] bobry: mishok13, шобы не захламлять lib/
[13:07:48] bobry: плюс следить за зависимостями в проекте
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[13:07:52] bobry: pip freeze > ...
[13:07:53] mishok13: deb/rpm
[13:07:59] mishok13: разве не тоже самое?
[13:08:02] bobry: зачем?
[13:08:31] bobry: у меня вот не deb-based дистр, придется много кирпичей сожрать шобы настройть сборку пакетов
[13:08:44] mishok13: ну вот у меня есть зависимость от вполне себе libboost >=1.38, как мне эту зависимость в virtualenv эксплуатировать?
[13:08:57] bobry: никак, речь о python коде
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[13:09:05] mishok13: вот блядь
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[13:09:20] mishok13: where's my silver bullet, нах
[13:09:31] bobry: шота ты адовый какой то ваще, понедельник?
[13:09:48] mishok13: понедельник день счастья и разбора проблем с деплойментом
[13:09:53] mishok13: и поисков решений
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[13:10:07] mishok13: короче, virtualenv мне никак не поможет
[13:10:10] bobry: ну дык собирай дебы, ага
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[13:10:30] mishok13: ну так тут же сразу возникает радость в виде скачущих названий пакетов
[13:10:42] bobry: например?
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[13:11:51] mishok13: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libboost-all-dev
[13:11:55] mishok13: например просто
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[13:12:43] mishok13: это метапакет, конечно
[13:12:54] mishok13: я помню что-то libgeos еще веселое
[13:13:45] mishok13: о, а еще libgdal когда устанавливаешь, то он забывает добавить symbolic link /usr/lib/libgdal.so
[13:13:54] mishok13: есть только libgdal.so.1.5 например
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[13:14:20] mishok13: хоть бери и всё в огромный deb собирай
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[13:14:54] xa4a: sudo apt-get install libboost-all-dev; sudo mv /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/boost ~/.virtualenvs/my_ve/lib/python2.6/site-packages
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[13:15:58] mishok13: xa4a, libboost никаких следов в site-packages не оставляет
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[13:16:07] xa4a: а, окей
[13:16:09] mishok13: он чисто в /usr/lib/ ложится
[13:16:26] xa4a: он из питона дёргается?
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[13:16:35] xa4a: или только наоборот?
[13:16:40] mishok13: оно при сборке модулей дергается
[13:16:46] xa4a: ага
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[13:18:17] mishok13: эх, не выходит каменный цветок
[13:18:39] xa4a: но я тоже за виртуаленв. он няшечка, если что
[13:19:04] xa4a: если обновлять джангу например, то ломаются не сразу всё, что крутится на веб-сервере, а только что-то одно
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[13:19:18] mishok13: :)
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[13:21:05] bobry: блин, надо линчевать того кто решил перенести все фишечки SA на mongo ... http://merciless.sourceforge.net/orm.html
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[13:21:47] mishok13: он просто болен
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[13:22:12] bobry: да ну такой перегруженный синтаксис в итоге, сто объектов создать надо чтобы модель определить
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[14:08:23] mishok13: билдаут не решает, нет
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[14:15:15] bobry: test_path_map_ports_errors это уже перебор, как думаете?
[14:15:31] mishok13: нормально, как по мне
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[14:15:50] xa4a: это же тесты..
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[14:16:20] bobry: кстати /me открыл для себя @patch из mock — такая классная штука
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[14:19:10] bobry: толстота
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[15:10:00] Joes3: http://thn.gs/
[15:10:06] Joes3: питон, голый cherrypy
[15:10:08] Joes3: без фреймворков
[15:10:12] umi is now online
[15:10:13] Joes3: весь гуй на клиенте
[15:10:19] Joes3: тоже без всяких либ типа jQuery
[15:10:38] Typhon: NIH FTW!
[15:10:41] Joes3: полностью оффлайновый с синхронизацией с сервером по простому протоколу
[15:10:49] altego is now online
[15:10:54] Joes3: типа local storage юзает
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[15:11:07] огыешсук: у меня тоже sentry что-то нифига не логирует :o(
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[15:11:30] Joes3: version 3.0.1
[15:11:34] Joes3: 2007-2011
[15:11:35] Joes3: да уж.
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[15:12:01] alecs is now online
[15:12:30] erraen is now online
[15:12:37] bobry: долго пилили :)
[15:12:44] Joes3: fuf
[15:12:45] Joes3: ага
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[15:14:02] Typhon: """ with smart interface which is very comfortable and easy to use. """ -- не очень easy, между прочим
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[15:18:52] mishok13: wtf is this shit
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[15:19:28] Typhon: todo лист, насколько я понял
[15:19:40] mishok13: пиздец
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[15:19:47] mishok13: 4 года на туду лист?
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[15:19:50] mishok13: на джаваскрипте?
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[15:19:56] Typhon: org-mode ftw %)
[15:20:10] mishok13: да блядь, тут даже notepad + dropbox ftw
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[15:21:03] piranha: mishok13: я так понял, что они недавно сделали эту версию
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[15:21:06] piranha: а до этого была какая-то срань
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[15:21:14] piranha: там вон чуваки в комментах же пишут, "новая версия жжот"
[15:21:37] Typhon: а где "там"?
[15:21:44] piranha: на быдлосайте
[15:21:48] piranha: http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/startup/113287/
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[15:23:27] Typhon: простой туду не особо интересно, интереснее что-то типа http://gaperton.livejournal.com/56976.html
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[15:25:38] mishok13: хабробыдло!
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[15:27:56] mishok13: боже, сколько восторженых возгласов в каментах-то
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[15:47:26] wiz: тычо там же макоёбские чекбоксы
[15:47:36] wiz: это так вебдванольно и стартапно!
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[15:49:20] mishok13: главное, что оно вебскейл
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[16:04:05] Sevenov: > макоёбские
Да лааадно?
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[16:06:05] wiz: ну, которые перещёлкиваются хз каким образом
[16:06:10] wiz: см. форму авторизации
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[17:12:23] alecs: подскажите плиз как перекодировать такое : '=?Windows-1251?B?ICLRLcvu5Obo8fLo6iI?=' . пытался base64.decodestring('ICLRLcvu5Obo8fLo6iI') - Error: Incorrect padding
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[17:14:24] wiz: это mime что-то-там
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[17:14:37] bobry: alecs, спрашивали недавно уже вроде бы. email?
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[17:14:51] alecs: email
[17:14:54] alecs: header.
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[17:15:33] bobry: ну дык и парси его email'ом — в чем проблема?
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[17:17:29] bobry: alecs, http://docs.python.org/library/email.parser.html
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[17:19:08] alecs: есть ещё идеи ?
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[17:19:59] alecs: некорректно работает стандартный email.header.decode_header
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[17:20:06] alecs: приходится писать своё
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[17:20:19] bobry: в чем заключается некорректность?
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[17:22:46] deepwalker: piranha, где нашел 500 страшных строк?
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[17:24:41] alecs: в том что часть емейлов неверно парсится
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[17:25:12] bobry: alecs, что именно неверно?
[17:25:31] alecs: subject
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[17:25:43] bobry: >.<
[17:25:49] bobry: лучше бы какой нить пример
[17:26:09] bobry: исходная строка, результат decode_header и как должно быть
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[17:28:01] alecs: а тебе не пример вверху ?
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[17:30:17] piranha is now I don't smile for pictures. I smile because it rocks.
[17:30:21] bobry: нет
[17:30:30] piranha: deepwalker: у себя, переписываю
[17:30:32] bobry: я просил ошибку в работе decode_string()
[17:30:34] piranha: у себя на работе
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[17:30:43] bobry: alafin, "Decode a message header value without converting charset." может в этом проблема?
[17:30:50] bobry: тьфу не тому :)
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[17:32:17] alafin: ))
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[17:33:00] bobry: alafin, сори :)
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[17:37:22] deepwalker: alecs, а откуда ты вообще такой заголовок взял?
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[17:38:17] bobry: у меня есть подозрение что alecs просто его не декодирует в cp1251
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[17:38:52] bobry: точнее *из*
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[17:44:38] alecs: сначала надо его из base64 перегнать
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[17:45:01] alecs: а потом уже .decode('windows-1251')
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[17:45:34] alecs: просто заголовок , на котором спотыкается ... 99.5% писем проходит , а вот это Г - нет
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[17:47:13] alecs: '=?koi8-r?B?5tLPzM/XwSDtwdLJzsEg98nUwczYxdfOwQ?='
[17:47:31] alecs: '=?Windows-1251?B?1PDu6+7i4CDM4PDo7eAgwujy4Ov85eLt4A?='
[17:47:33] alecs: и такие тоже
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[18:03:34] bobry: блин, во flask.script так кошерно команды сделаны
[18:03:37] bobry: не то что в джанге ...
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[18:27:15] h3g: пипл, кто-нибудь с git работает вплотную? есть заморочка одна, на локальной машине исходники проекта в стадии разработки, а на сервере production версия скриптов. вот не пойму, как мне залить на локальную машину master ветку с сервера, а мои исходники положить в отдельную ветку.
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[18:33:10] Tony: h3g, читай про бранчи в гит
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[18:37:25] bobry: товарищи, кто с py.test работал — расскажите, есть там аналог with_setup() из nose
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[18:43:55] deepwalker: alecs, а посмотри плз mail agent в этих сообщениях, в которых такие заголовки
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[18:44:35] alecs: уже на stackoverflow рассказали что должно кол-во символов кратно 4-м быть и посоветовали добавлять = в конец
[18:44:40] alecs: :) сенк
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[18:45:10] bobry: alecs, кстати в header.py такая проверка была, странно
[18:45:36] alecs: :) header.py кривое
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[18:45:45] alecs: и по нему есть тикеты
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[18:45:53] alecs: в багтреке питона :)
[18:46:18] han: Привет сообществу, Уважаемые подскажите пожалуйста в чем беда, пытаюсь запустить свой первый проект в связке apache + mod_wsgi ( на win7) захожу в админку отображается все нормально но при попытке перейти на любую ссылку вылетат ошибка 404, Хотя под встроенным сервером все работает?
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[18:46:47] Tony:
>apache + mod_wsgi ( на win7)
ой ебаный нахуй

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[18:47:56] alecs: проект на чём ?
[18:48:05] alecs: django небось ?
[18:48:41] han: да, на нем родимом
[18:48:50] alecs: ну так мот это существенно ))
[18:49:00] alecs: ссылки в админке не работают ?
[18:49:02] alecs: или в проекте
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[18:49:12] han: в админке
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[18:49:51] alecs: ошибка 404 это здорово ... DEBUG=True ?
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[18:50:54] bobry: han, а на встроенном сервере все работает?
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[18:51:14] han: да, на встроеном пашет как надо
[18:51:18] han: Using the URLconf defined in myblog.urls, Django tried these URL patterns, in this order:
^blog/
^admin/doc/
^admin/ ^$
^admin/ ^logout/$
^admin/ ^password_change/$
^admin/ ^password_change/done/$
^admin/ ^jsi18n/$
^admin/ ^r/(?P<content_type_id>\d+)/(?P<object_id>.+)/$
^admin/ ^(?P<app_label>\w+)/$
The current URL, admin/blog/blogpost/, didn't match any of these.
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[18:51:41] han: это вместе с ошибкой
[18:52:35] alecs: если на встроенном работает надо смотреть наверное урлы которые ты в апаче вписал
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[18:56:16] han: в настройках апача прописал только алиасы для статики - /media/ и /admin/media/
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[19:22:45] xa4a: han: корень не работает?
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[19:22:55] xa4a: а на дев-сервере работает? не верю
[19:23:01] xa4a: может ты забыл написать /blog/ ?
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[19:28:05] han: но факт остается фактом на дев работает. если прописать blog , то отобразится страница (представление описанное мной) . пробую сейчас с этими настройками на убунте запустить, может там получится.
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[19:30:28] xa4a: ты же не првязал ничего к корню
[19:30:34] xa4a: что на дев работает?
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[19:31:56] han: на дев работает админка, позволяет добавлять, редактировать, и т.д. а вот на апаче я захожу в админку но при попытке чего либо сделать получаю ошибку, неверный url
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[20:21:37] han: в убунте тоже на работает, значит где то в конфинах напортачил :(
[20:21:46] piranha is now I don't smile for pictures. I smile because it rocks.
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[22:29:11] bobry: блин, я прямо влюбился в распаковку iterables, реквестирую больше паттерн матчинга в питоне :)
[22:29:39] deepwalker: ?
[22:29:49] deepwalker: ааа
[22:29:54] Typhon: (head, *tail) = [1,2,3,4]
[22:30:04] deepwalker: а раньше в функциях кстати было, вроде
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[22:30:09] piranha: срочно хочу рабочий магпай
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[22:30:27] deepwalker: типа def kuku( (a, *b), c )
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[22:31:11] Typhon: piranha, шо, проникся?
[22:31:24] deepwalker: и шобы с стдлиб
[22:31:35] bobry: deepwalker, до сих пор есть же
[22:31:36] piranha: Typhon: тупо адски крутой
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[22:31:45] piranha: deepwalker: стдлиб проще пилить, если есть рабочий язык
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[22:31:48] piranha: а его еще нет
[22:31:52] bobry: хочу PKGBUILD для magpie
[22:31:53] deepwalker: bobry, ну убрали уже
[22:32:01] bobry: ну это в 3k
[22:32:02] deepwalker: piranha, вот хз как он там будет
[22:32:03] piranha: bobry: нахой куй?
[22:32:11] bobry: piranha, шобы пакетом как у пацанов
[22:32:18] deepwalker: может он будет хромой аки зараза
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[22:32:31] deepwalker: но кстати выглядит поприятнее скалы : )
[22:33:23] piranha: выглядит охеренно
[22:33:46] piranha: bobry: так я спрашиваю, зачем?
[22:33:51] piranha: он еще не рабочий до конца
[22:34:02] piranha: флоатов нет, вложенные рекорды фейлят парсер
[22:34:23] bobry: piranha, шобы удобнее было ставить / обновлять. зачем еще пакеты то?
[22:34:34] piranha: bobry: git pull и всë
[22:34:42] piranha: пакет нужен для рабочего софта
[22:34:47] bobry: ну там тоже буит git pull, в pkgbuild'e :)
[22:34:53] deepwalker: :) важно кстати продумать этот момент
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[22:35:12] deepwalker: ну модули и пакет и тп
[22:35:12] piranha: опа!
[22:35:15] piranha: изменения в магпае
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[22:36:11] deepwalker: вот есть у меня два метода у класса - один validate, в котором скрыта некоторая механика в базовом классе, и метод для переопределения real_validate - как-то косо : (
[22:36:19] deepwalker: есть предложения?
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[22:36:45] bobry: deepwalker, почему бы не скрыть все в do_validate
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[22:36:49] deepwalker: в базовом validate идет проверка на required и режим обработки ошибок
[22:36:51] bobry: и сделать validate() виртуальным
[22:36:55] bobry: or w\e you call it
[22:37:05] deepwalker: ?
[22:37:11] bobry: или protected, /me путается в терминологии
[22:37:12] piranha: deepwalker: что бобры сказали
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[22:37:23] piranha: сделай валидейт для переопределения
[22:37:29] piranha: а внутренний назови как-то косо
[22:37:31] piranha: :
[22:37:32] piranha: :)
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[22:37:36] bobry: ну или _validate / validate
[22:37:38] deepwalker: ну я ж дергаю validate
[22:37:47] deepwalker: для апей, он внешний как раз
[22:37:55] deepwalker: а переопределять то надо второй
[22:37:56] piranha: ааа
[22:38:06] bobry: хммм... не понял чета
[22:38:11] deepwalker: потому что он внутри первого вызывается, и обернут в try except
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[22:38:31] bobry: code sample на гитхабе?
[22:38:35] deepwalker: в validate есть try except поверх real_validate, который как раз переопределяется в сыночках
[22:38:39] deepwalker: момент
[22:39:04] deepwalker: https://github.com/Deepwalker/procrustes/blob/master/procrustes/validators.py 21
[22:39:11] deepwalker: чет не выделяется сегодня строка
[22:39:14] deepwalker: не пойму
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[22:40:17] Typhon: piranha, а где мэйллиста у мэгпая? (btw, дурацкое, плохогуглябельное название)
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[22:40:20] deepwalker: safe_validate я уже выкинул, а то прям зоопарк
[22:40:39] piranha: http://groups.google.com/group/magpie-lang
[22:40:41] Typhon: нашёл
[22:40:43] Typhon: :)
[22:40:50] Typhon: спасибо :)
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[22:41:04] deepwalker: запушил
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[22:42:40] deepwalker: заюзать clean : )
[22:42:42] deepwalker: как в джанге
[22:42:50] piranha: :)
[22:42:55] bobry: deepwalker, а почему не сделать validate -> is_valid?
[22:43:03] bobry: а validate() оставиться для пользователей?
[22:43:24] bobry: safe validate легко можно заменить на is_valid(safe=True)
[22:43:29] deepwalker: уже
[22:43:40] bobry: так сделано в каком то из недоормов для монги
[22:43:42] deepwalker: is_valid это косо, потому что не действие
[22:43:51] deepwalker: мы же дело делаем
[22:44:01] deepwalker: а это типа состояние
[22:44:05] deepwalker: кстати что : )
[22:44:06] bobry: makes sense
[22:44:14] bobry: но по мне этим можно было бы пожертвовать
[22:44:16] bobry: ради чистоты api :)
[22:44:59] deepwalker: у меня у форм is_valid конкретно возвращает True если valid
[22:45:12] deepwalker: это вот ождаемо, я считаю
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[22:45:18] bobry: ии?
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[22:45:34] deepwalker: та не знаю )
[22:45:36] deepwalker: сложно все
[22:45:43] deepwalker: вызывать то надо validate
[22:45:50] deepwalker: а переопределять - хз
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[22:46:27] deepwalker: ты предлагаешь в одном месте апи испортить, ради другого
[22:46:35] bobry: стоп, можешь пояснить таки разницу между validate() и real_validate()?
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[22:46:48] bobry: смысловую
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[22:46:55] deepwalker: validate обретка с плюшками, которые можно не писать в сыночках
[22:47:14] bobry: так может super()?
[22:47:15] deepwalker: try except и проверка на required
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[22:47:26] piranha: http://labas.livejournal.com/884564.html
[22:49:13] bobry: может замутить тему с метаклассом? который буит выдергивать validate() у сынка и оборачивать его в то что сейчас делает validate() у родителя
[22:49:38] piranha: bobry: меньше магии -> больше понимания происходящего и легче дебагать
[22:49:46] piranha: не делай сложным то, что можно сделать простым
[22:49:49] bobry: ну да — не поспоришь
[22:49:52] piranha: не юзай метаклассы, когда не нужны
[22:49:59] piranha: не делай флоуэнжины, потому что они не нужны
[22:50:02] piranha: не делай рулесистемы
[22:50:03] piranha: эмм
[22:50:10] piranha: это я должен говорить учаснегам с работы
[22:50:10] bobry: че че?
[22:50:11] bobry: флоу?
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[22:50:15] piranha: надо список составить
[22:50:17] piranha: flow engine
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[22:50:21] bobry: шо эта?
[22:50:32] piranha: энжин для того, чтоб делать что угодно
[22:50:39] bobry: например?
[22:50:39] piranha: из-за этого он сложный, непонятный и дебагать нереально
[22:50:50] bobry: generic class to do generic stuff :D
[22:50:53] piranha: например я не понимаю кода там после получаса прочтения
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[22:51:15] piranha: >> a: b: 1
= a: b: 1

[22:51:18] piranha: epic win!
[22:51:27] bobry: совсем заколдовано?
[22:51:35] piranha: новый парсер был не зря
[22:51:37] piranha: bobry: да говно
[22:51:39] bobry: :D
[22:51:40] piranha: но рулсистем еще хуже
[22:51:44] bobry: а это че?
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[22:51:49] piranha: там компилированный питоновский код хранится в базе данных
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[22:51:51] piranha: !
[22:51:53] bobry: ......................
[22:51:56] bobry: :-!
[22:52:06] bobry: можешь не продолжать
[22:52:15] bobry: хотя не, они написали свой импортер?
[22:52:20] bobry: *для бд
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[22:52:33] piranha: не
[22:52:35] piranha: :)
[22:52:36] piranha: exec()
[22:53:03] bobry: яипал, кто это придумал?
[22:53:07] deepwalker: как то не круто
[22:53:12] deepwalker: надо было импортер
[22:53:37] bobry: deepwalker, может тебе реально клины сделать?
[22:53:50] deepwalker: from 1s.saved_procs import calcs _everything
[22:53:50] piranha: bobry: мудаки
[22:53:57] deepwalker: кого?
[22:53:59] deepwalker: а
[22:54:11] bobry: явный бонус — не нужно учить новый апи
[22:54:12] deepwalker: слины то же куйня какая-то
[22:54:16] bobry: вай?
[22:54:20] piranha: from postgresql+psycopg2://localhost/select_code_from
[22:54:22] bobry: piranha, ты их там караешь?
[22:54:37] piranha: пытаюсь иногда
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[22:55:18] bobry: кстате, ты в какой должности та? тимлид?
[22:55:20] bobry: или еще не
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[22:56:12] piranha: хуйлид
[22:56:14] piranha: эм
[22:56:17] piranha: в смысле я просто девелопер
[22:56:18] piranha: ;D
[22:56:31] bobry: йома, тогда карай тимлидов за такую архитектуру :D
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[22:57:06] deepwalker: ты шо, он же иммигрант из класса понаехали : )
[22:57:19] deepwalker: ладно бы араб, а то ведь коммунист
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[22:57:26] deepwalker: опасно
[22:57:47] piranha: блять тимлид это лол
[22:58:01] deepwalker: как там кстати у них с понаехали?
[22:58:37] piranha: понаехал я и еще один чувак из киева до меня
[22:58:42] bobry: негусто чета
[22:58:44] piranha: и еще есть перец с сицилии и из барселоны
[22:58:54] piranha: это из 8 девелоперов 4
[22:59:01] piranha: но один девелопер ушëл в продакт манагеры, один уволился
[22:59:07] piranha: теперь 30% разработчиков из украины
[22:59:08] piranha: ;D
[22:59:12] deepwalker: быгыгы
[22:59:50] deepwalker: через пару лет - Украина? Это где все пишут на питоне?
[22:59:55] piranha: :)
[23:00:12] deepwalker: Извините, вы ведь с Украины, напишите нам сайт
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[23:00:42] bobry: какой лапшин толстый стал http://juick.com/lurker/1201728#27 почти как севенов
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[23:02:46] deepwalker: он написал эрли и стал звездой
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[23:04:14] bobry: да, теперь haskell не унылое не production ready говно ...
[23:04:19] bobry: *-не
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[23:05:41] deepwalker: а что, реди?
[23:05:46] deepwalker: без заносов?
[23:05:58] Typhon: bobry, а он пришёл таки к зефирову и устроил срачек до бана? ^_^
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[23:06:25] Typhon: deepwalker, если ты выучишь ghc core и научишь себя везде ставить strictness флаги, то, наверное, реди %)
[23:06:43] deepwalker: Typhon, я типа не ССЗБ
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[23:07:44] deepwalker: я хаскелем могу побаловаться, но пользоваться увольте
[23:07:50] bobry: Typhon, про баны ничего не знаю :)
[23:08:00] Typhon: не пришёл :(
[23:08:07] bobry: deepwalker, где то презенташка гуляла про то как на нем fail safe штуки пишут
[23:08:18] deepwalker: то есть?
[23:08:24] Typhon: у галуа полно же их таких
[23:08:32] bobry: да-да, они самые
[23:08:40] bobry: ну т.е. оно просто работает, и не ломается :)
[23:08:51] Typhon: точнее, я думаю, там только don stewart
[23:08:51] deepwalker: try except: ? : )
[23:09:09] bobry: deepwalker, это только вторая часть — первая не гарантируется :)
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[23:10:14] deepwalker: я тут подумал, а фигли validate метод один, и сообщение об ошибке только одно
[23:10:16] deepwalker: хм
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[23:10:32] deepwalker: а надо несколько сообщений об ошибке для Integer например?
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[23:11:32] deepwalker: и не понятно, как повесить несколько методов, потому что их опять же надо называть : )
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[23:13:07] bobry: deepwalker, ты ж вроде вчера был убежден шо сообщение должно одно быть
[23:13:21] deepwalker: да и сегодня так выходит
[23:13:38] deepwalker: вчера меня просто никто не переубедил : )
[23:13:54] bobry: да ну нафик — пусть одно буит
[23:14:10] bobry: я вот сходу не могу представить ситуацию когда нужно больше
[23:14:15] bobry: для одного поля по крайней мере
[23:14:33] deepwalker: check!!!
[23:14:40] bobry: м?
[23:14:45] deepwalker: ну синоним
[23:14:49] deepwalker: толковый
[23:14:58] bobry: не отражает сути imo
[23:15:03] deepwalker: why?
[23:15:14] bobry: validate == check for validity
[23:15:26] bobry: check == check for anything
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[23:15:33] xa4a: password too small. passwords do not match
[23:15:51] bobry: xa4a, ну это разные ошибки — для разных полей
[23:15:59] bobry: точнее do not match это видимо для всей формы
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[23:16:08] deepwalker: для составного поля
[23:16:12] deepwalker: поля контейнера
[23:16:16] bobry: ну да, ок
[23:16:21] xa4a: password must include at least one digit
[23:16:22] Typhon: недопустимые символы в пароле
[23:16:23] bobry: + у вложенных полей свои ошибки
[23:16:28] xa4a: password must include at least one punctuation
[23:16:39] deepwalker: хм, уел
[23:16:41] bobry: мне кажется это перебор ...
[23:16:49] bobry: одной ошибки за раз вполне себе
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[23:16:57] deepwalker: да, вообще можно один валидатор сделать на это все
[23:17:03] xa4a: ага, и на пять требований - 5 раз сабмитить
[23:17:04] bobry: да уж
[23:17:05] bobry: :)
[23:17:15] bobry: xa4a, лучше пять требований в столбик красным цветом?
[23:17:22] bobry: к тому же можно их сформулировать в одно-два
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[23:17:33] xa4a: можно одно длинное, да
[23:17:49] xa4a: deepwalker
да, вообще можно один валидатор сделать на это все
[23:18:36] xa4a: bobry: пишешь веб-фреймоврк?
[23:18:39] xa4a: а то я начало пропустил
[23:18:46] xa4a: :)
[23:19:06] deepwalker: я пишу валидаторы
[23:19:09] deepwalker: либу
[23:19:32] Typhon: в wtforms нету валидаторов?
[23:20:10] xa4a: я кайфу от джанговского кверидикта, у которого можно брать .get(key), а можно getlist(key)
[23:20:12] deepwalker: а это к чему вопрос?
[23:20:13] xa4a: фую
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[23:20:58] deepwalker: помимо wtforms есть еще сотня либ
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[23:22:35] ckckck: Здравствуйте.
Джанговский контриб.аут не впускает свежесозданного пользователя почему-то, почему не знаете?
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[23:23:48] ckckck: Пароли менять пробовал, юзера пересоздавать пробовал, бд пересоздавать тоже.
[23:23:50] xa4a: пароль не установил
[23:23:59] xa4a: как пароль менешь?
[23:24:00] ckckck: Установил конечно.
[23:24:07] xa4a: .set_password() ?
[23:24:14] ckckck: Я из админки пока.
[23:24:28] xa4a: как не пускает?
[23:24:44] xa4a: в админку? или django.contrib.auth.login?
[23:25:09] ckckck: Пишет, что пароль или логин неправильные. В аминку, ага.
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[23:25:39] ckckck: Еще любопытно, что хеши у двух одинаковых паролей получились разные в бд.
[23:25:55] ckckck: Что за странность такая.
[23:25:59] xa4a: про хеши - это нормально
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[23:26:04] xa4a: т.к. в базе хеши с солью
[23:26:09] xa4a: у каждого пароля своя соль
[23:26:17] xa4a: выставил юзеру is_staff?
[23:26:43] xa4a: через консоль проверь: user.authenticate(password)
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[23:27:20] ckckck: Опа.
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[23:28:16] ckckck: Какой глупый промах.
[23:28:25] ckckck: Теперь пускает, спасибо.
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[23:32:10] ckckck: Вдогонку вопрос:
Сайт будет содержать пользовательский контент, насколько хорошей практикой считается допускать обычных юзеров до админки (с ограниченными полномочиями, разумеется), или правильней написать свою обертку?
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[23:36:09] deepwalker: ckckck, в каком плане?
[23:36:18] deepwalker: подробнее опиши
[23:36:28] deepwalker: много обычных юзеров?
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[23:37:42] ckckck: Посещаемость предугадать не берусь, но это не какой-нибудь сервис для интранета, если вы про это. Так что пожалуй много.
[23:38:03] deepwalker: тогда написать руками
[23:38:11] deepwalker: админка для стаффа
[23:38:39] deepwalker: то есть добавить статьи, юезрами похимичить, и тп
[23:38:46] deepwalker: данные там залить какие-то
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[23:40:47] ckckck: Не, ну проставить всем галки «стафф» при создании не проблемма ведь. Предполагается их допускать только до данных (никаких там «юзерами похимичить»), причем из вполне определенной модели, и только на добавление, благо джанга позволяет.
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[23:41:14] deepwalker: тю, одна форма
[23:41:23] deepwalker: не ленись
[23:41:45] deepwalker: админка смотрится чужеродно, в дизайн вписывать дольше будешь
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[23:48:25] ckckck: Зато ънтырпрайзно.
Хотя не буду жертвовать гибкостью ради неписания одной формы, и правда.
А вообще я ожидал, что есть какая-то строгая линия по этому вопросу (типа «никогда не используй гото»).
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[23:51:00] deepwalker: слу, генерик же есть
[23:51:14] deepwalker: даже форму писать не надо, лентяй :)
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[23:55:03] ckckck: Мда, нашел. Даже неинтересно.
[23:55:16] deepwalker: вообще лень дело полезное. Как то раз я налохматил кучу кода для crud, такого сцуко гибкого, что пиранья уж на что шит видел в своей зарубежной жизни, и то бы офигел
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[23:55:53] deepwalker: я даже боюсь на него теперь смотреть, на код этот
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[23:57:39] ckckck: Велосипедизм страшная вещь, ага. Страшнее только велосипедофобия.
[23:57:55] ckckck: И я похоже ей страдаю.
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