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[00:03:22] farella: Привет. Кто-нибудь знает GUI Builder потипу boa-constructor, который генерит к wx.widgets, но не как wx.Glade xml-файлом (бррр..) а как делает boa: кодом питоновским.. чтобы как boa короче но не boa (boa вылетает на моих задачах... у него очень много проблем, например с виджетом notebook и прочее).. я искал и не нашел.. склоняюсь к тому, что такой функционал больше ничто не реализует, но надежда умирает последней.. мб хоть под винду (прости Господи) я уже не знаю.. спасибо за сочувствие.
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[00:04:59] Tony: незачто
[00:05:29] Tony: farella, а почемубы не хранить хуй в xml файле?
[00:05:30] Tony: гуй т.е
[00:06:12] farella: Tony: "разделение" - это хорошо .. а вот xml imho - это плохо
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[00:06:25] Tony: почему? я как-то давно такое юзал в Qt
[00:06:43] farella: а сейчас что юзаешь?
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[00:09:51] farella: не нравится мне xml.. и я не хочу заморачиваться с xml.. я изучаю python и я хочу заморачиваться с python.. boа-constructor делает всме правильно., но он заброшенный и недоделанный проект, который вылетает в critical errors ... я просто интересуюсь кто что использует и может кто-то встречал решения, интересующие меня..
[00:10:03] Tony: нет. я давно не пишу нативные гуи
[00:10:31] farella: (00:06:14) Tony: нет. я давно не пишу нативные гуи = я используя только Qt
[00:10:39] Tony: странные вообще желания. ты хочешь больше геморроя. может еще html как-то питоном захочешь заменить?)))
[00:10:54] Tony: farella, что ты хотел этим сказать?
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[00:13:18] farella: причем здесь это? почему желания странные? wx.Widgets хорошая библиотека.. она нативная и кроссплатформенная.. Qt не интересует... потому что: это не python и там сишный API, затем она тормознута, весит стопидсот мегабайт и ненативна, затем у нее сейчас нет хозяина, тк нокия от нее отказалась.. что приравнено к тому, что у библиотеки нет будущего.. продолжать?
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[00:14:00] Tony: мне честно сказать глубоко все равно на гуи библиотеки. я с ними не работаю и надеюсь что не придется.
[00:14:19] Tony: просто мне показалось странным желание не использовать xml при том использовать gui builder
[00:14:27] Tony: если такой true то пиши все на питоне зачем тебе билдеры?
[00:15:25] farella: ну руками это понятно.. но ведь не python way все-таки: зачем тратить время программиста на реализацию одних и тех же вещей сто раз?? для самообразования это конечно очень полезно я понимаю.. и прокачивает нехило... но неужели все это делают руками? Я как-то писал Tkinter.. две ночи верстал.. кинул библиотеку на третьи сутки.. потому что понял, что "бъюсь головой о стену" вместо того чтобы отлаживать код и писать что-то действительно полезное время тратилось на верстку десяти кнопок на фрейме.. две ночи подряд.. вручную.. в XXI веке.. на языке "сверхвысокого уровня" как его называют... это, простите маразм.. а если сроки поджимают? так что не надо мне про "ручками".. я про "ручками" знаю сам.. я просто интересуюсь может кто-то знает и готов поделиться информацией. спасибо.
[00:15:39] farella: вот для чего билдеры
[00:15:52] Tony: зачем тратить время программиста на реализацию одних и тех же вещей сто раз # вот для этого и есть xml ;)
[00:16:14] farella: и на твой вопрос: да, я True... (в python если ты не знал с большой буквы)
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[00:16:35] farella: xml!=python что не понятно*
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[00:17:34] Tony: ты странный
[00:18:05] farella: я такой какой есть.. я просто пришел и задал вопрос.. если ты не знаешь ответ - то не надо пытаться отвечать.
[00:18:17] Tony: ойпиздец
[00:18:27] Tony: html ты тоже в frontpage верстаешь?
[00:18:41] farella: я не пишу web
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[00:19:12] Tony: а не мешало бы. просто реально странные желания.
[00:20:38] farella: что странного? я хочу красивый понятный код на питоне, описывающий графическую библиотеку, использующий ее API .. на питоне... а не на говняном xml. это преступление? я программирую на питоне и я хочу код на питоне, где противоречие?
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[00:21:30] Tony: если ты такой фанат гуев без xml, то почему бы не написать руками? нет времени? ну так юзай xml. по-моему все логично. тем более "красивый код" и "билдер" это какие-то странные сочетания, чесслово.
[00:21:54] farella: xml - это костыли в данном случае..., когда очередной говнобуилдер, использующий библиотеку, не заточенную под птон изначально генерит xml потому что так меньше геморроя - это костыли.. так и называется..
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[00:22:31] Tony: ты пришел похоливарить?
[00:23:22] farella: boa дает красиавый код.. если не использовал - не гони пургу.. просто он не доделан и я интересуюсь об альтернативах у сообщества.. перестань троллить епт.. перечитай мои сообщения и перечитай свои... поймешь кто из нас холиварит а кто пытается нормально общаться.
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[05:31:22] webninja: йо
[05:31:25] webninja: скажите
[05:31:36] webninja: если например мне ваще пипец надо мониторить как проходит процесс
[05:31:42] webninja: могу я сделать такой хак
[05:31:56] webninja: поставить meta-refresh тэг хтмл в темплейте страницы
[05:32:11] webninja: и короче чтобы например она обновлялась каждый н сек?
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[07:51:17] Ляпатяпа_: хоткея нет, есть команды bp и bn
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[07:52:04] Ляпатяпа_: map <F2> :w<CR>:bp<CR>
imap <F2> <ESC>:w<CR>:bp<CR>a
map <F3> :w<CR>:bn<CR>
imap <F3> <ESC>:w<CR>:bn<CR>a

[07:52:06] Ляпатяпа_: можно так
[07:52:21] Ляпатяпа_: но это не по последнему, а по кругу
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[07:52:34] Ляпатяпа_: _lorien: а можно использовать табы
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[07:58:17] _lorien: Ляпатяпа мне нужно переключаться в цикле между двумя буферами, а не между всеми
[07:58:28] _lorien: то что ты показал похоже на скопипастенный пример из моего конфига )
[07:58:45] _lorien: кстати, я уже давно вырезал оттуда :w команду, без неё лучше
[07:58:57] _lorien: а то идиотизм, просто бегаешь по буферам, а файлы постоянно сохраняются
[07:59:15] _lorien: Кажется, из-за этого джанага всё время перезагружала дебаг-сервер.
[07:59:37] _lorien: А табы я не знаю, что такое, но думаю, от буферов не сильно отличаются.
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[08:03:14] webninja: лориен ты на вим перешел?
[08:03:26] _lorien: ага, года четыре назад o_O
[08:03:31] webninja: ааа
[08:03:37] webninja: emax ftw
[08:03:44] _lorien: нахуй это говно )
[08:03:45] webninja: ой уьфсы
[08:03:49] webninja: emacs
[08:03:54] _lorien: и это :))
[08:03:55] webninja: ты шо ) отличный редактор
[08:04:08] webninja: там elisp
[08:04:20] webninja: твою проблему можно было бы решить парой строк кода )
[08:04:28] webninja: и биндом на кей
[08:04:38] _lorien: вот не надо лечить меня только )
[08:05:05] _lorien: в вим тоже есть скриптинг, можно на питоне писать скрипты и вешать на хоткеи
[08:05:09] _lorien: но это ж писать надо :)
[08:05:27] webninja: а вим у тебя какой?
[08:05:41] _lorien: ну не знаю... чёрный такой :D
[08:05:47] webninja: в окошке?
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[08:05:52] _lorien: нее )
[08:05:57] _lorien: в консоли я работаю
[08:06:09] webninja: хм
[08:06:44] webninja: просто в максе еще такая тема - фрэймы. я просто тупо открываю 2а окна. и ширины экрана хватает разместить их рядом )
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[08:07:19] _lorien: в виме тоже есть окна
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[08:07:50] _lorien: просто мне лень читать про каманды работы с окнами :)
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[08:08:22] _lorien: Вообще да, такое решение проблемы тоже было б кстати :)
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[08:08:43] _lorien: Правда у меня моник 4:3, не оч удобно
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[08:09:27] Ляпатяпа_: Неприемлемо.
Данные приняты, но не могут быть обработаны получателем или сервером (например, из-за политики фильтрации слов).
Только присутствующим разрешается посылать сообщения в конференцию
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а в чем проблема с окнами работать?
[08:09:45] _lorien: Я же выше написал
[08:09:52] _lorien: Мне лень прочитать про команды работы с окнами.
[08:09:53] Ляпатяпа_: ctrl + w, v, а потом ctrl + w, w
[08:10:00] _lorien: Плюс монитор 4:3
[08:10:06] _lorien: Получатся узенькие окошки :)
[08:10:15] _lorien: да я даже команды знаю
[08:10:21] _lorien: в принципе.. недавно читал про них
[08:10:33] _lorien: короче моник фиговый
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[08:11:08] _lorien: ммм, да
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[08:11:45] _lorien: окна эти, сначала открывать, потом закрывать, одна морока с ними :D
[08:11:46] webninja: piranha болезный все никак не поднимет репы =(
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[08:12:13] _lorien: А что за репы, попробуй поищи через гугл, может кто делал клоны
[08:12:15] webninja: ну во всяком случае я нахожу емакс много удобнее чем нетбинс )
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[08:14:00] webninja: на битбакете правда не свежие
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[08:16:16] _lorien: да они все клёвые - для кого-то
[08:16:35] _lorien: для меня вим клёвый, потому что я его знаю, а емакс не знаю :)
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[10:42:32] _lorien: кто чем в джанге тамбнейлы делает?
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[12:02:39] gigimon: никто случаем незнает скрипта, который бы sql дамп резал на куски?
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[12:10:44] wiz: split, не?
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[12:12:27] gigimon: есть 1 огромный инсерт (200 метров), его надо разбить на более мелкие
[12:12:44] gigimon: есть ченить такое?
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[12:24:42] wiz: не видел
[12:24:54] wiz: а какой формат запроса?
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[12:26:16] gigimon: INSERT INTO `postindex` VALUES

(5903, 4468, 0, 1),

(2123, 4468, 0, 1),
[12:26:45] gigimon: и таких значений почти 3 миллиона)
[12:26:50] gigimon: в 1 инсерте
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[12:31:37] wiz: а, ну и парсь их вручную
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[12:31:58] wiz: readuntil в помощь
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[12:33:18] gigimon: wiz: всмысле парсь вручную? мне их базу надо грузить
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[12:33:35] _lorien: gigimon: ну возьми разбей скриптом
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[12:34:10] gigimon: _lorien: вот я и гвоорю, скрипт есть такой?)
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[12:34:45] _lorien: да есть, он находится на расстоянии 10-30 минут кодинга, 5 минут ты уже потерял, сидя в этой конфе
[12:34:54] gigimon: не хочу я его кодить
[12:35:06] gigimon: по-крайней мере не сейчас
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[12:37:04] wiz: да там писать один while
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[12:37:35] gigimon: это вам… надо будет на досуге все же написать такой
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[12:44:26] _lorien: т.е. данные таки не попадут в БД? )
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[12:45:13] gigimon: _lorien: ну, т.к. это клиентские (я в саппорте воркаю) то он был посла искать решение)
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[12:47:28] _lorien: круто, никогда в саппорте не работал, наверное, интересно )
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[12:51:58] gigimon: _lorien: неинтересн ни разу, появляется желание убивать :)
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[12:53:06] _lorien: ммм, убивать
[12:53:17] _lorien: А зачем работаешь там тогда? )
[12:53:26] _lorien: Вон на одеске вроде работы валом.
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[12:55:21] gigimon: _lorien: платят нормально, про одеск подумываю, но сомневаюсь в своих силах так сказать)
[12:55:47] gigimon: да и за нормальные деньги параллельно еще занимаюсь своими делами
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[12:58:01] bobry: товарищи, никто случаем с shipito дела не имел?
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[13:17:03] wiz: ппц индусов на одеске...
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[13:19:07] bobry: wiz, конкуренция
[13:19:12] bobry: это ты еще на GAF не работал видимо
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[13:20:01] _lorien: у них и расценки наверное демпинговые
[13:20:32] _lorien: bobry: рентакодер наше всё :)
[13:20:38] _lorien: вернее он щас iwork называется вроде
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[13:21:28] bobry: _lorien, имхо такая же помойка
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[13:21:34] bobry: и fees у них непотребные
[13:21:42] bobry: и супорт тоже
[13:21:55] _lorien: bobry: да я ж несерьёзно )
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[13:22:24] _lorien: я удивился, когда новый диз увидел у них, много-много лет сайт выглядел одинаково и одинаково глючил
[13:22:29] bobry: а ты чичас на одеске?
[13:22:33] bobry: "новый" диз :)
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[13:22:48] _lorien: Да. Одеск тоже нехило берёт, скока там, пять процентов или тип того
[13:23:04] _lorien: ох, 10
[13:23:17] _lorien: правда он с работодателя берёт )
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[13:26:26] gigimon: а одеск на что выплаты делает?
[13:26:39] bobry: gigimon, выгоднее всего на payoneer
[13:27:11] gigimon: что такое payoneer? :)
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[13:27:21] gigimon: типа одеска?
[13:27:23] bobry: нее
[13:27:35] bobry: я даже не знаю как их обозвать
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[13:27:41] bobry: сервис который виртуальные карты делает
[13:27:50] bobry: на них можно потом маники выводить с кучи сайтов
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[13:28:00] bobry: GAF / RAC / ELancer / oDesk / etc etc
[13:28:13] gigimon: аа
[13:28:27] gigimon: а с этой виртуальной карты куда потом?
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[13:28:51] chernysh.vadim: В банкомат)
[13:28:55] bobry: ну она условно виртуальная
[13:29:01] bobry: тебе они вышлют обычную пластиковую
[13:29:03] gigimon: а
[13:29:09] gigimon: и скок денег берут за ее создание?
[13:29:11] webninja: я финсистему юзаю epese они присылают карты пайонер. зато можно на них делать прямой банковский перевод в европейский банк. ну трансферить туда сюда на вебмани, карту поплнять
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[13:29:25] webninja: 10$
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[13:29:34] gigimon: понятно
[13:29:43] gigimon: кстати, про вебмани
[13:29:50] chernysh.vadim: 9$ за регистрацию. Потом по 3% в банкомате снимать
[13:29:52] gigimon: в украине кто как деньги выводит?
[13:29:53] webninja: т.е. если сумма большая то проще вайр попросить чтобы отправили
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[13:30:33] _lorien: Нет, не 3%
[13:30:49] _lorien: В банкомате снять деньги 2 бака или тип того, без всяких процентов.
[13:30:57] _lorien: Я про пэйонир карту одесвовскую
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[13:31:30] Magister Yoda: Typhon: спасибо за подсказку с json
[13:31:37] webninja: после того как епасс наебнулся пайонер стал де факто стандарт, практически
[13:31:44] wiz: а чочо у wsgi за grunts?
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[13:32:20] Magister Yoda: кстати какой формат в БД соответствует формату object в Пайтоне?
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[13:32:43] Magister Yoda: TextField подойдёт?
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[13:34:13] gigimon: чего чего?
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[13:34:49] Typhon: Magister Yoda, ты ж про сериализацию почитал? :)
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[13:37:16] wiz: что за формат object?
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[13:39:46] _lorien: class Hui(object):
[13:39:53] _lorien: он про это :)
[13:40:07] wiz: а при чём тут формат?
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[13:41:12] _lorien: видимо, он хочет пиклить объекты и хранить в бд )
[13:41:20] Typhon: гляньте историю, то ли нночью сегодня, то ли вчера вечером. чувак спрашивал, как дикт в бд хранить
[13:41:22] _lorien: /me телепат
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[13:42:43] _lorien: фак, я не телепат, нужно всего лишь дикты сохранять )
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[13:43:14] Typhon: почти угадал же!
[13:43:19] wiz: та это я помню
[13:43:29] wiz: но почему он опять это спрашивает? (=
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[13:43:41] gigimon: wiz: обсуждение же
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[13:43:44] gigimon: больше голосов
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[13:44:11] webninja: нихуя хранить объект в бд это инновационно в духе модернизации )
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[13:49:23] webninja: http://javascript.ru/ajax/comet/iframe
[13:49:25] webninja: кстати
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[13:49:31] webninja: прикольно
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[13:51:22] wiz: да ну
[13:51:28] wiz: всё дёргается и мигает
[13:51:34] wiz: и курсор ещё...
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[14:01:47] webninja: ну блин мне хоть как-то нужно знать как выполнение функции проходит
[14:02:08] webninja: мне тут советуют чето мрак какой-то лонг пулинг и т.д.
[14:02:19] Typhon: полинг
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[14:18:00] wiz: !google socket.io
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[14:19:18] wiz: webninja, ^
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[14:27:46] Magister Yoda: как работать с формами на JS?
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[14:28:28] _lorien: alert('<form></form>')
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[14:33:47] wiz: правильный вопрос не как, а зачем
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[14:38:37] Magister Yoda: Google Awards - мне надо написать скрипт который бы делал запросы по ключевым словам
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[14:41:35] Magister Yoda: *Adwords
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[14:50:19] Magister Yoda: никто не работал?
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[15:05:14] webninja: wiz: норм тема. почитаю подробнее )
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[15:18:28] Magister Yoda: как хранить переменную типа object в БД?
[15:19:44] gigimon: Magister Yoda: ты прикалываешься?
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[15:21:18] _lorien: Magister Yoda: пикли и храни
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[15:21:34] webninja: че прям с методами будет?
[15:21:42] _lorien: будет
[15:21:46] webninja: ого
[15:21:55] _lorien: главное, чтобы при распикливании было описание класса проимпротировано
[15:22:36] webninja: чето это помойму попирание принципов ООП )
[15:22:43] _lorien: по сути это тоже самое что сохранить __dict__ просто наверное там много всяких нюансов учтено
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[15:23:27] _lorien: ну да, если __dict__ ссылается на другие объекты их дикты тоже надо сохранить, наверное всей этой тягомотиной pickle и занимается )
[15:23:58] webninja: йода на кой хер тебе такие нестандартные решения
[15:24:00] Typhon: отличная схема -- таблица Objects с одной колонкой и туда всё пикленное совать!
[15:24:35] webninja: порни, че посоветуете по паттернам проектирования почитать?
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[15:24:51] Typhon: sicp
[15:24:59] webninja: !sicp
[15:25:01] Typhon: и сожги GoF если уже купил
[15:25:08] Typhon: !g SICP
[15:25:09] webninja: ниче не покупал
[15:25:15] webninja: википедию читал
[15:25:17] Typhon: ^
[15:25:27] webninja: спасибо )
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[15:29:10] Magister Yoda: _lorien: можно пример?
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[15:30:42] Typhon: Magister Yoda, расскажи лучше свою задачу, что ты хочешь делать, зачем тебе хранить объект в бд, что ты хочешь с ним потом делать, что за объект.
[15:30:56] _lorien: Magister Yoda: пример чего? Пример pickle? RTFM.
[15:31:19] _lorien: Magister Yoda: у тебя день тупёжки? :)
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[15:31:46] Magister Yoda: задача всё та же. есть словарь. json'ом он преобразовывается в object, если верить таблице. вот мне и надо его сохранить
[15:32:15] Typhon: эй бля
[15:32:17] Typhon: )
[15:32:25] _lorien: Кто такая таблица? Ей точно можно доверять? :)
[15:32:41] Magister Yoda: http://docs.python.org/library/json.html#json.JSONEncoder вот тут
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[15:32:58] Magister Yoda: вроде можно доверять
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[15:33:14] Typhon: ну колонка называется JSON
[15:33:26] Typhon: т.е. питоновский дикт енкодится в JSON-object
[15:33:32] Typhon: http://json.org/
[15:33:34] Typhon: читай здесь
[15:33:37] Typhon: что такое json
[15:33:44] Typhon: а то явно не втыкаешь
[15:33:54] _lorien: явно - слабо сказано :)
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[15:34:41] Typhon: Magister Yoda, http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B7%D0%B0%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%8F
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[15:35:06] Magister Yoda: я это прочитал вчера. перечитаю...
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[15:36:14] Magister Yoda: а что насчет - кто-нибудь знает как работать с JS формами? например на adwords.google.com
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[15:36:53] Typhon: зачем там работать с жс формами? нет разве api какого-нибудь?
[15:37:47] Magister Yoda: не встречал...
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[15:38:14] Magister Yoda: ухты... поиск творит чудеса =)
[15:38:32] darkillusion: да ну :))
[15:38:50] Magister Yoda: сорри. торможу чо-то
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[16:16:13] Magister Yoda: http://code.google.com/p/adwords-api-starterkit/ кто-нибудь знает почему у меня тут forbidden?
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[16:16:57] wiz: потому что это private проект?
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[16:18:21] Typhon: Magister Yoda, http://code.google.com/apis/adwords/ SOAP FTW ггг
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[16:18:53] Magister Yoda: и? а скачать где? ссылка справа ведет на forbidden
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[16:20:52] Typhon: http://code.google.com/p/google-api-adwords-python-lib/
[16:21:00] Typhon: у тебя какие-то левые ссылки
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[16:25:07] Magister Yoda: а у меня ссылается на http://code.google.com/intl/ru/p/adwords-api-starterkit/
[16:25:36] Typhon: Download a client library to start using the AdWords API with the programming language of your choice.
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[16:26:45] Magister Yoda: ясно. у меня РУ было
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[16:28:10] Magister Yoda: хм... не инсталлицо
[16:28:20] Magister Yoda: ZSI поставил
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[16:28:30] Magister Yoda: делаю setup.py build install
[16:28:49] Magister Yoda: D:\Downloads\Programming\Python\adwords_api_python_13.2.0>setup.py build install
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "D:\Downloads\Programming\Python\adwords_api_python_13.2.0\setup.py", line 24, in <module>
from adspygoogle.adwords import LIB_AUTHOR
File "D:\Downloads\Programming\Python\adwords_api_python_13.2.0\adspygoogle\adwords\__init__.py", line 61, in <module>
'error_types.csv')):
File "D:\Downloads\Programming\Python\adwords_api_python_13.2.0\adspygoogle\common\Utils.py", line 75, in GetDataFromCsvFile
raise e
IOError: [Errno url error] unknown url type: 'd'
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[16:37:20] Magister Yoda: понятно... не инсталлицо потому что он под линь написан, и не понимает что за D
[16:37:41] Magister Yoda: и как быть?
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[16:44:31] wiz: поставить нормальную ОС
[16:45:25] Typhon: вин7
[16:45:31] Typhon: потому что у меня на ней всё ставится ок
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[16:46:46] wiz: вин7 это какой-то форк мандривы вроде?
[16:47:53] Typhon: это убунту с нормальным оконным менеджером ^_^
[16:47:58] gigimon: О_О
[16:48:04] Magister Yoda: у меня вин7
[16:48:04] gigimon: у win7 оконный менеджер нормальный?
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[16:48:09] gigimon: вы прикалываетесь, да?
[16:48:10] Magister Yoda: не ставицо
[16:48:16] gigimon: у винды и макоси убогие wm
[16:48:29] gigimon: как и функций кастомизации
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[16:48:54] Magister Yoda: Typhon: хочешь попробовать поставить?
[16:49:46] Typhon: Magister Yoda, >>> import adspygoogle
>>> adspygoogle
<module 'adspygoogle' from 'C:\Python27\lib\site-packages\adspygoogle\__init__.pyc'>
[16:50:35] Magister Yoda: и зачем ты мне это показываешь? ты думаешь я не верю тебе, что у тебя нормально поставилось? верю. я говорю что у меня не ставится
[16:50:46] Magister Yoda: ZSI ставил?
[16:51:00] Magister Yoda: ха...
[16:51:20] Magister Yoda: распаковал в корень C и щас нормально поставилось. пипец выкидышь
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[16:52:55] Magister Yoda: осталось разобраться в примерах...
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[16:58:38] _lorien: bash - клёвый оконный менеджер
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[17:02:33] Typhon: emacs, да
[17:02:39] Typhon: в одном из буферов zsh
[17:02:51] Typhon: или emacs shell да
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[17:07:56] Magister Yoda: Typhon: ты случаем в примерах не копался?
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[17:08:11] Magister Yoda: что-то я не могу найти нужный мне пример
[17:08:23] Typhon: нет
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[17:19:21] bobry: товарищи, у меня есть sha1 коммита в гитовском репе, как мне узнать как далеко это от HEAD?
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[17:22:08] Typhon: а сам репо этот есть? :) если да -- вывести лог, который будет по строчке на коммит показывать и гавком щитать, пока не встреишь свой ша, потом перестать. ну или не гавком. человечных способов не знаю ^_^
[17:22:43] bobry: я просто думал там есть шо нить для этого
[17:22:47] bobry: гавком не интересно
[17:23:11] Typhon: наверняка есть, что помочь может
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[17:23:19] Typhon: там же сотни служебных комманд!11!11!
[17:23:22] bobry: :)
[17:23:31] bobry: ну там можно интервал указать, но чета я пока не понял как
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[17:23:57] Typhon: тебе именно кол-во коммитов нужно?
[17:24:45] bobry: ага
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[17:38:46] Magister Yoda: подскажите кто-нибудь - где вводить данные для аутентификации в google adwords api?
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[17:49:22] chernysh.vadim: А ктото использует в работе django-publicauth?
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[20:02:57] Gap: Всем привет
Помогите решить проблему, пожалуйста, http://python.su/forum/viewtopic.php?id=10401
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[20:12:39] Typhon: если версия либы свежая, то скорее всего неверные access token и всё такое. попробуй перегенерить
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[20:14:03] darkillusion: в твиттере basic auth (или как там его) отменили?
[20:14:09] Gap: Typhon: ставил через setuptools, должна быть свежая. Параметры для подключения правильные, ибо фоловит и анфловит на ура
[20:14:15] Gap: darkillusion: да, 1 сентября
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[20:14:42] Typhon: тогда есть смысл попинать авторов либы, я думаю
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[20:16:03] Gap: Typhon: ставил и oauthtwitter и tweepy! Не могут же они все накосячить. Проблема только с русскими строками, строки на английском твитит
[20:16:39] darkillusion: а что у них за кодировка там?
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[20:16:49] Gap: utf-8
[20:16:59] Gap: Русский текст через либу выводится только если буквы представлять в виде &#xxxx но тут проблема в ограничении 140 символов
[20:17:14] Typhon: utf-8, наверное. encoded_string = unicode_text.encode('utf-8')
[20:17:21] Typhon: и encoded_string уже шли
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[20:17:54] Gap: Typhon: я делал еще str = status[0].encode('utf-8')
[20:18:05] Gap: Typhon: то что вы написали и я - не одно и то же?
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[20:20:24] Typhon: str, кстати, название типа стандартного, не стоит его перезаписывать. я не знаю, что такое status и что такое status[0], поэтому не знаю, одно это или нет :-) если у тебя текст в юникоде -- то кодируй его в utf-8. если в утф-8, то кодировать не надо. + библиотека сама может заниматься кодированием, так что может ей надо просто юникодную стороку передавать
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[20:21:59] Gap: Typhon: str - для примера) в utf-8 передавал, определял строку через chardet
[20:22:13] Typhon: http://dev.twitter.com/pages/libraries#python -- какую из этих ты пользуешь?
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[20:22:38] Typhon: python-twitter, походу ?
[20:22:43] Gap: да да
[20:22:46] Gap: он самый
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[20:22:57] Gap: использовал еще oauthtwitter и tweepy
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[20:31:34] Gap: наверное стоит попробовать другие библиотеки
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[20:32:08] Typhon: а английский текст ты передаёшь как юникод или в утф-8 ?
[20:32:18] Gap: utf-8
[20:32:46] Typhon: а input_encoding ты указывал?
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[20:33:01] Gap: нет, а где его указывать надо?
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[20:34:02] Typhon: либа, если ей передали НЕ-юникод, смотрит на input_encoding и ДЕкодирует строку из input_encoding в unicode. если же ей передали unicode -- оставляет его как есть. или если нету input_encoding тоже оставляет как есть.
[20:34:22] Typhon: возможно здесь трабла -- попробуй unicode в неё передать
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[20:34:56] Gap: ты python-twitter смотришь?
[20:35:03] Typhon: ага
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[20:37:22] Gap: Typhon: спасибо за помощь, буду копаться
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[20:43:22] Magister Yoda: в шаблонах можно использовать сложные конструкции типа f[0][1][1]?
[20:44:30] Typhon: если джанговские шаблоны имеешь ввиду, то смотри доки -- там написано всё, какие можно конструкции пользовать
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[20:44:46] Magister Yoda: ну или например цикл такой {% for (a, (b,c)) in d %}
[20:44:46] Typhon: bobry, echo $[`git log --pretty=oneline HEAD | wc -l` - `git log --pretty=oneline 251bc5 | wc -l`] ^_^
[20:45:11] bobry: Typhon, спасибо, я уже ручками нашел
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[21:09:27] Gap: кстати как можно буквы в виде &#xxxx представить в виде русских?
[21:09:40] Gap: кодировки менял - безрезультатно
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[21:11:01] Magister Yoda: есть
a = [['1','2'],['3','4']]
b = ['5','6']
можно ли как-то получить [['1','2','5'],['3','4','6']]?
[21:11:16] Magister Yoda: zip даёт немного другое
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[21:12:02] Magister Yoda: и конечно же я имел ввиду стандартный способ, а не через циклы
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[21:14:20] bobry: Magister Yoda, можно нагородить с map и operator
[21:14:23] bobry: но нужно ли тебе это?
[21:14:36] Magister Yoda: хочешь сказать - проще циклом?
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[21:14:48] bobry: очевидней циклом
[21:14:59] Magister Yoda: окей.
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[21:21:13] Tony: классы в js это такой пиздец
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[21:22:49] bobry: Tony, use classy :)
[21:22:53] bobry: или coffeescript
[21:22:58] bobry: я собсна от второго к первому ушел
[21:23:00] bobry: и доволен
[21:23:01] Tony: classy и юзаю, но один хуй хуею.
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[21:23:18] Tony: матчасти знания не хватает. как например то почему this в родительском и дочернем классе разные.
[21:23:56] bobry: this вообще не привязан к классу / объекту
[21:23:56] Typhon: м, this ж на instance указывает, а не на класс?
[21:24:13] Tony: вот от этого меня и пучит
[21:24:25] Tony: как сделать блжад аналог self ? :)
[21:24:28] Tony: или this в java
[21:24:28] bobry: просто прими это как есть
[21:24:29] bobry: никак
[21:24:30] Typhon: и вообще, в 21 веке приличные люди выбирают http://ocsigen.org/js_of_ocaml/ !11!
[21:24:47] bobry: круто :))
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[21:24:54] Tony: кто куда а я пизданулся. недавно видел что-то такое но на haskell
[21:25:15] bobry: нее
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[21:25:27] bobry: там написали хаскель интерпретатор на js
[21:25:31] bobry: это ш в другую сторону совсем
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[21:32:37] superbobry: эх, чую через empathy мне в ocaml@cjr не попасть :)
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[21:33:21] Typhon: почему?
[21:33:43] superbobry: не умеет он капчу, пишет шо комната защищена паролем и все
[21:34:05] Tony: gajim
[21:34:14] Typhon: хм, а ты чо, не учаснег, штоле?
[21:34:24] superbobry: dblbvj ytf
[21:34:28] superbobry: видимо неа
[21:34:37] superbobry: Tony: с гажима и ухожу же
[21:34:49] Tony: почему?
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[21:37:43] Typhon: какая-то странная модернизация :D
[21:38:02] superbobry: ну я ж не навсегда, чиста на попробовать
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[21:46:52] Tony: чисто попробовать можно mcabber
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[21:48:49] superbobry: Typhon: можешь плиз попросить в ocaml@c.j.r меня добавить в members? или для этого надо войти?
[21:49:22] Typhon: я уже, одминистрация спит
[21:49:25] Typhon: а во, проснулась
[21:49:30] Typhon: заходи :)
[21:49:33] superbobry: оо, круто :)
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