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[00:15:57] superbobry: товарищи, ejabberd умеет логи показывать через веб?
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[00:18:28] Typhon: http://chatlogs.jabber.ru/ocaml@conference.jabber.ru/2011/02/22.html ну вот, например, хз ежаберд это или какая-то отдельная тулза
[00:18:43] Typhon: попинай ermine %)
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[00:26:59] asou: http://dumpz.org/35445/
[00:27:11] asou: Не подскажите как сделать это же прямее?
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[00:28:46] superbobry: asou: ModelForm из коробки умеет файлы
[00:28:56] py_two: i++
^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax
[00:29:05] py_two: что, такого питон не понимает ?:)
[00:29:07] superbobry: + ты можешь указать свою функцию для имени
[00:29:20] superbobry: ffs, +=1 в общем
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[00:30:58] py_two: ок
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[00:34:08] py_two: пришел с другого языка в питон. Навскидку сверстал первый код, что тут с точки зрения питона можно оптимизировать ?
https://privatepaste.com/8448c726c1
[00:34:34] py_two: просьба сильно не ругать, прочитано 125 страниц книги только
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[00:35:45] superbobry: ну, первую функцию можно написать в две строчки
[00:35:56] superbobry: import os.path; os.path.splitext(fname)
[00:36:45] py_two: /me в шоке:)
[00:37:00] superbobry: а еще, разве os.walk() возвращает file objects?
[00:37:07] superbobry: там наверное список строк
[00:37:15] superbobry: соответственно len(file) нефига не размер файла будет
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[00:37:50] Joes: там все переписать надо :-)
[00:38:01] Joes: цикл внутри for - нафига там i?
[00:38:08] superbobry: ну первую функцию заменить на splitext и все
[00:38:13] Joes: for name in files:
[00:38:28] Joes: и вперед
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[01:04:04] py_two: Joes: вышло так: https://privatepaste.com/ff85a6d638
[01:04:26] py_two: что ты ты там говорил про for name in files ?
[01:04:28] Joes: еще раз - нафига тебе sza = len(files)
[01:04:31] Joes: while
[01:04:33] Joes: и т.д.
[01:04:42] Joes: for name in files:
[01:04:49] Joes: и name уже содержит твое имя файла
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[01:05:04] Joes: от него уже и делай splitext
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[01:07:00] piranha: http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/fqf2f/how_we_made_github_fast/c1hvytd
[01:07:12] py_two: Joes: просто вот в чем загводка. Если проставить print len(files) в цикле for, то имеем следующее:
Укажите директорию, которую нужно пропарсить!
9
0
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[01:07:46] Joes: ну и что?
[01:07:54] Joes: у тебя цикл лишний
[01:08:10] Joes: в смысле - sza, i вообще лишние
[01:08:18] Joes: как и while
[01:08:22] piranha: py_two:
for path, dir, files in os.walk(path):
for name in files:
print name
[01:08:27] piranha: всë
[01:09:23] superbobry: тут кошерную библиотеку зарелизили
[01:09:30] superbobry: если кто вдруг планету не читает
[01:10:25] superbobry: http://kennethreitz.com/blog/introducing-requests/
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[01:10:57] piranha: конвору читать надо
[01:13:07] py_two: Joes: 7 строчек кода. Пипец
[01:13:12] py_two: я не верю!
[01:13:40] Joes: py_two: советую смотреть доки питона
[01:13:51] Joes: большинство операций уже написали до
[01:14:03] py_two: Joes: да, верно говоришь
[01:14:05] Joes: особенно советую всякие itertools посмотреть
[01:14:14] Joes: и functools
[01:14:19] Joes: там очень много полезного
[01:14:33] py_two: да хотя бы книгу одну прочитать:)
[01:15:32] py_two: Joes: вот, еще хотел спросить. Если прикрутить это к raw_input(), то получается если у меня будет входной параметр d:\, то функция не отработает т.к ей нужен двойной слеш, есть что-то, чтобы проверять входной параметр и чекать его ?
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[01:15:44] Joes: ээ
[01:15:59] Joes: а почему двойной слеш?
[01:16:07] Joes: это если ты в исходном файле строку пишешь
[01:16:11] Joes: нужно эскейпить слеши
[01:16:19] Joes: если оно пришло из консоли - так и будет.
[01:16:24] Joes: просто юзай напрямую и все.
[01:16:29] Joes: /away sleep
[01:16:51] asou: Мне нужно было не просто загрузку файла сделать, а записать в БД несколько файлов из одного загруженного. До сих пор что-то не могу справиться.
[01:18:31] py_two: Joes: ок, спасибо
[01:18:50] asou: Единтсвенное работающее решение пока, до которого дошел — сохранять файлы в папке загрзок прямо из вьюхи.
[01:19:18] asou: Но при этом с какого-то фига там сразу 4 файла одинаковых сохраняются вместо одного.
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[01:20:48] asou: Вот ссылку на код перепощу http://dumpz.org/35445/
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[01:33:14] py_two: Joes: еще один, последний на сегодня вопрос: есть какая-то функция, которая из текстовых файлов слова вырезает ?
[01:33:41] py_two: это конечно наглость, но раз такая пруха по компактности кода пошла
[01:33:51] asou: .replace(u"слово", u"")
[01:34:05] asou: Я не Joes, зато я не ушел спать
[01:35:07] py_two: я не имел ввиду замену, а просто каждое слово вырезать и составить из него список
[01:35:12] py_two: чтобы потом можно было реплейсить
[01:35:32] asou: Текст на слова разделить?
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[01:35:44] py_two: открываю текстовый файл, так ?
[01:35:55] py_two: инициирую пустой список
[01:36:02] py_two: вырезаю слова и заполняю им список
[01:36:09] py_two: вернее формирую
[01:36:17] py_two: далее применяю реплейс к списку
[01:36:21] py_two: что пропустил ?
[01:36:34] asou: .split(" "), если тебя пробел в роли единственного разделителя слов устраивает
[01:36:42] asou: реплейс к списку не применяют
[01:37:10] asou: если хочешь заменить что-то в тексте, используй просто .replace на нем
[01:37:17] py_two: а если с эксклюзив лист ?:)
[01:37:32] py_two: тобишь вырезать нужно теги html допустим
[01:37:50] asou: Смотри в сторону регулярных выражений.
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[01:38:10] asou: А вообще да, неплохо бы хотя бы с одной книжкой по питону ознакомиться.
[01:38:25] py_two: да
[01:38:36] py_two: спасибо за советы
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[09:45:26] webninja: лориен тут?
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[09:46:01] webninja: есть спецы по xpath?
[09:46:09] webninja: <div class="info"><a href="showthread.php?threadid=3391833" class="thread_title">fdfds
[09:46:14] webninja: от такая штука
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[09:46:48] webninja: я вроде разобрался как взять href и тайтл между <a></a>
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[09:47:36] webninja: но таких элементов несколько т.е. мне нужно 2а цикла чтоли сторить чтобы занести данные в dict?
[09:49:08] xa4a: что ты хочешь?
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[09:50:02] webninja: можно xpath сразу 2а вытащить элемента?
[09:50:18] webninja: т.е. аттрибут и тайтл чтобы все это в кортеже было
[09:50:39] webninja: for href, title in g.xpath(...)
[09:50:46] webninja: как нибудь так
[09:51:26] xa4a: нет. xpath вытаскивает только xml-элементы, не аттрибуты
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[09:51:34] piranha: for elem in g.xpath(): print elem.href, elem.title может?
[09:53:35] webninja: аттрибуты тоже вытаскиевает
[09:53:51] webninja: //div[@class="info"]/a/@href вот так
[09:54:02] xa4a: странно
[09:54:06] webninja: piranha не не катит )
[09:54:12] xa4a: ну тогда там какой-то or был, вроде
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[09:54:29] piranha: чего вдруг не катит?
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[09:54:36] xa4a: map(elem.attrs, ['href', 'title'])
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[09:54:43] piranha: я тебе не рецепт, а идею дал
[09:54:45] xa4a: !g xpath
[09:54:50] webninja: File "<stdin>", line 45, in <module>
File "<stdin>", line 39, in test_run
AttributeError: 'HtmlElement' object has no attribute 'href'
[09:54:54] webninja: я читаю уже
[09:54:57] piranha: ну пиздец, не гони
[09:55:03] webninja: есть | ща попробую
[09:55:06] piranha: я lxml руками в жизни не трогал
[09:55:16] piranha: но чтоб нельзя было как-то атрибут найти - я тупо не верю
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[09:55:51] webninja: оооо с мап щаз попробую
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[10:00:06] webninja: сделал через |
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[10:30:35] webninja: for item in g.xpath('//div[@class="info"]/a'):
print item.text
print item.xpath("@href")[0]
[10:30:40] webninja: можно и так )
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[10:44:10] _lorien: а чо надо, а то лень читать что вы написали )
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[10:44:58] _lorien: если аттрибуты, то elem.get('href') или elem.attrib['href'], ну можно и через xpath, да
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[10:46:11] webninja: я граб юзаю твой
[10:46:21] webninja: там шорткут к tree.xpath
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[10:47:59] py_two: доброе утро. Добавте меня в список постоянных посетителей, чтобы капчу не вводить
[10:48:18] Murkt: *добавьте
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[10:51:29] piranha: какую в сраку капчу?
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[10:51:37] webninja: как какую
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[10:51:39] piranha: silent_bob: когда тебя хача поправит уже?
[10:51:49] webninja: jabber.ru просит каждый раз если тебя не зарегали тут или че
[10:51:54] piranha: вово, или я тебя вскрою
[10:52:01] piranha: webninja: да я ж вроде отключил всякую лажу
[10:52:19] webninja: это видимо фишка джаббер ру
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[10:53:30] mishok13_: дык может мэжикпони будет мембера сразу автоматом раздавать тем кто голос получил?
[10:53:41] webninja: ага
[10:53:55] webninja: ваще неудобно пипец я на python канале так и не зарегался
[10:54:12] mishok13_: меня туда так и не пустили
[10:54:17] mishok13_: видимо я плохо питон знаю
[10:54:25] piranha: mishok13_: Михаил, оно вам нужно?
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[10:55:02] Murkt: =)))))))
[10:55:04] webninja: а где был вопрос про деббагер?
[10:55:16] webninja: сюда вроде
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[11:10:50] mishok13_: """oDesk: Hot Contractor Tips from Paris Hilton?"""
[11:10:58] slav0nic: ага
[11:11:06] mishok13_: втф
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[12:43:00] cryptspirit: день добрый. Знает кто как получить "статус" копирования при использовании shutil?
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[12:56:40] _lorien: cryptspirit: копируй пофайлово и рисуй прогресс сам или у тебя один файл?
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[13:13:04] cryptspirit: а если файл большой?
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[13:16:50] cryptspirit: думал сделать на dd стоит это делать?
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[13:21:16] _lorien: cryptspirit: можешь копировать с помощью cp, если ей послать сигнал специальный, то она выплюнет информацию о том, сколько скопировано
[13:21:25] _lorien: почитай, в гугле про это писали
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[13:25:43] _lorien: А можно ли на битбакете исключить себя из writerов проекта? Если я не админ и у меня нет доступа к интерфейсу редактирования пользователй проекта?
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[14:07:16] cutwater: а можно как-нибудь вырубить CSRF миддлварь в django только для одного app
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[14:13:06] py_two: гм, только что до меня дошло, что 1 << 8 тоже самое, что 2 ** 7 =)
[14:13:15] py_two: забавно
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[14:20:37] wiz: а ещё pass тоже самое, что 'pass'
[14:20:41] wiz: так то!
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[14:45:54] cryptspirit: _lorien: вы явно путаете cp и dd. у меня уже как неделю есть программа которая так с dd копирует
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[15:25:29] py_two: что хотел спросить. Есть ли какой-то глобальный репазиторий, в котором собраны бинарные пакеты либ для питона ?
[15:25:36] py_two: типа pycurl, pycuda
[15:25:38] py_two: уес
[15:25:40] py_two: etc
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[15:26:06] maxp: в каком смысле бинарные?
[15:26:16] py_two: прямом
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[15:26:33] py_two: где полностью готовый инсталяционный пакет
[15:26:37] maxp: в виде *.pyc ?
[15:26:40] maxp: :)
[15:26:53] py_two: к примеру pycurl идет только сорс, нужно собирать gcc модуль
[15:26:56] maxp: инсталляционный пакет под какую платформу?
[15:27:02] maxp: платформы разные бывают
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[15:27:15] py_two: вин32 платформа
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[15:28:03] maxp: не слыхал про такое
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[15:28:13] maxp: когда надо было, искал отдельно дллки
[15:28:22] maxp: под pyserial например
[15:28:40] maxp: можно поискать в районе activestate
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[15:28:48] maxp: они делали всякое под win32
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[15:29:18] py_two: ну там же не нахаляву;)
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[15:30:17] py_two: ладно, не буду заморачиваться. Пока что не до этого
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[15:31:06] maxp: Looking for more Python packages and modules? Download ActivePython Community Edition then launch PyPM <http://code.activestate.com/pypm>.
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[16:12:42] quasiyoke: хороша идея urls.py в django -- мне стразу понравилось делать регулярные выражения для django.confs.urls.defaults
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[16:13:51] quasiyoke: только вот чаще всего в проектах структура ссылок в проектах иерархическая
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[16:14:33] quasiyoke: почему бы не придумать обработчик составленного разработчиком xml-описателя структуры ссылок в проекте
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[16:14:56] quasiyoke: к тому же к ссылке должно быть привязано имя секции проекта
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[16:15:52] quasiyoke: у меня сложной кашей sorteddict'ов сделано нечто подобное
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[16:16:46] quasiyoke: только вот неправильно это. Быть может есть готовые совершенные решения?
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[16:17:39] quasiyoke: "совершенные" решения*
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[16:21:46] Typhon: quasiyoke, если я правильно тебя понимаю, то во фласке что-то такое есть -- модули (со своим урлом, как стартовой точкой) и функции в этих модулях (с урлом, внутри модуля).
mod = Module('account')
mod.view_func('user') => 'account/user'
типа того. (а иксмеель гогно)
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[16:22:14] py_two: maxp:хотите сказать, что я должен перейти на это Г типа активпитон ?
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[16:23:28] maxp: вот уж не знаю
[16:23:34] quasiyoke: typhon: Спасибо, хорошо: поищу что-то в эту сторону.
[16:23:47] maxp: но когда я делал питонячьи программки под Вынь меня активстейт вполне устраивал
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[16:23:59] cutwater: py_two: э... но зачем. обычно есть таки бинарные сборки для нужных пакетов? каких не хватает?
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[16:25:50] py_two: pycurl, остальное вроде как нашел
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[16:26:38] cutwater: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1582814/pycurl-installation-on-windows
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[16:27:56] py_two: cutwater : а ничего, если я поставлю на 2,7 пакет от 2,6 ?
[16:28:02] cutwater: чего
[16:28:16] cutwater: увы таки самый простой вариант таки поставить компилятор
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[16:28:39] maxp: помнится у меня pyserial для 2.5 не поехал на 2.6
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[16:29:14] cutwater: по идее того же mingw должно хватить. или студию express поставить
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[16:30:12] py_two: import pycurl
ImportError: DLL load failed: Не найден указанный модуль.
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[16:30:33] py_two: ладно, пока не горит:)
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[16:31:22] cutwater: вообще плохо то что авторы не предоставляют сборок для win
[16:31:28] superbobry: арвв, empathy опять не шлет мои сообщения гат такой
[16:31:36] Typhon: superbobry, gajim
[16:31:39] superbobry: в общем на коня pycurl
[16:31:41] cutwater: Psi+
[16:31:49] py_two: superbobry: psi+=)
[16:31:58] py_two: tkabber
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[16:32:24] superbobry: tkabber это для совсем хк пацанов
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[16:37:01] maxp: cutwater: авторы, возможно, Вынь только в кино видели :)
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[16:39:38] cutwater: =)
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[16:43:33] maxp: недавно читал нечто подобное про кроссплатформенность
[16:43:57] maxp: от первого лица великого и могучего создателя erlyvideo
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[16:44:13] maxp: диалог
[16:44:46] maxp: - юзер: а почему Вы не развиваете свой проект под вин32?
[16:45:02] maxp: - макс: да мне это как бы нафиг не уперлось
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[16:45:34] maxp: - Как же, как же! Но это же не кроссплатформенно! и не как принято в опенсорсе!!!
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[16:45:47] maxp: - хотите заказать мне разработку под Вин32?
[16:45:49] maxp: - ....
[16:46:06] maxp: "вы алчный и самовлюбленный жмот..."
[16:46:09] cutwater: :-D
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[16:46:26] maxp: воспроизвел по памяти, как получилось :)
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[16:51:28] Darth Лис: maxp: правильно он сказал
[16:52:21] superbobry: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=596077
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[16:54:55] xa4a: quasiyoke: include() ?
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[16:58:27] quasiyoke: xa4a: о чём вы? об импорте модулей?
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[17:00:26] quasiyoke: xa4a: нашёл какой-то url dispatcher
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[17:00:40] xa4a: да
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[17:00:50] xa4a: об инклуде урлконфов
[17:01:06] xa4a: http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/http/urls/#including-other-urlconfs
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[17:03:54] quasiyoke: хорошо, спасибо, я ещё почитаю. Но, возможно, попробую написать xml для собственного проекта и может быть, глядя на него, напишу его обработчик. Урлконфы не позволяют задать имя для страницы
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[17:04:08] quasiyoke: А если проект захочется и18вать
[17:04:52] quasiyoke: ...то xml -- одно из немногих верных решений
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[17:05:43] superbobry: xml для i18n?
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[17:07:59] quasiyoke: superbobry: иксемел потомучто внутри будет иерархия, а не просто так. Быть может я вас недопонял, конечно.
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[17:08:48] superbobry: речь идет об i18n строк в питоновском коде, я правильно понимаю?
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[17:09:32] quasiyoke: не только.
[17:09:36] superbobry: к слову в JSON / yaml будет такая же иерархия и бонусом читаемость
[17:10:08] quasiyoke: и надписей в шаблонах... да, и больше ничего
[17:10:23] superbobry: у джанго есть стандартные средства для этого
[17:10:28] superbobry: на основе gettext
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[17:13:16] quasiyoke: superbobry: Я никогда не смотрел, что есть в модулях интернационализации там... посмотрю, спасибо
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[17:14:00] superbobry: ну там вполне все цивильно, к тому же gettext
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[17:26:27] DrTiBiBo: Всем привет! Есть вопрос по WMI.
[17:26:40] DrTiBiBo: for os in c.Win32_Process():
print os.Caption
os.GetOwner(myuser, dom)
print myuser
[17:26:48] DrTiBiBo: это мой кусок программы
[17:26:57] DrTiBiBo: Выдает ошибку
System Idle Process
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "Hello.py", line 15, in <module>
os.GetOwner (myuser, dom)
NameError: name 'myuser' is not defined
Что не так?
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[17:28:06] DrTiBiBo: если объявляю myuser = dom = None или "" - выдает пустые строчки вместо юзера
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[17:30:57] quasiyoke: DrTiBiBo: не использовал нужных вам библиотек, но правильно ли я понимаю, что вы хотите проинициализировать переменную myuser, указав её в аргументах функции?
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[17:31:26] DrTiBiBo: Это метод, а не функция
[17:31:49] DrTiBiBo: Метод получает учетные данные владельца (имя пользователя и имя домена), под которыми работает процесс, и возвращает 0, если операция была успешной, или код ошибки. Параметры:
* User - выходной параметр, куда система помещает имя пользователя.
* Domain - выходной параметр, куда система помещает имя домена или компьютера.
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[17:32:02] DrTiBiBo: Может я туплю
[17:32:19] _lorien: видимо тупишь
[17:32:34] _lorien: os.GetOwner (myuser, dom) - тут передаёшь переменную, ты её ещё не определил
[17:32:51] DrTiBiBo: хорошо. Как определить?
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[17:33:15] _lorien: вопрос в другом, ты пытаешься сделать что-то, что скорее всего неправильно
[17:33:20] _lorien: это не с, тут нету передачи указателей
[17:33:26] _lorien: вернее есть в случае мутируемых объектов
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[17:33:35] _lorien: но у тебя там похоже то ли число то ли строка
[17:33:45] quasiyoke: решите, что должно передаваться как аргумент функции (метода) и найде, откуда "взять" нужное вам значение
[17:33:46] _lorien: а это немутируемые объекты, или как там правильно перевод звучит )
[17:34:02] DrTiBiBo: Обе переменные стринг
[17:34:08] _lorien: DrTiBiBo: в общем, прочитай книжку по питону )
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[17:34:11] quasiyoke: _lorien да и в си прежде всего инициализация
[17:34:37] DrTiBiBo: _lorien: а что конкретно?
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[17:34:55] quasiyoke: первые три главы обязательно
[17:35:08] Typhon: !wtf tutorial
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[17:35:48] _lorien: DrTiBiBo: http://www.books.ru/shop/books/816603
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[17:37:05] Typhon: DrTiBiBo, http://starship.python.net/~skippy/win32/ -- этот модуль?
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[17:37:18] DrTiBiBo: Вы меня извините, конечно. Но на форуме есть тема с 2007 года с таким же вопросом. Там никто так и не ответил. Я перерыл все, что можно.
[17:37:52] DrTiBiBo: Примеров куча на С, С++, VB, C#, а на питоне нету
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[17:38:22] DrTiBiBo: на шарпе пробовал этот метод вызывать - все в порядке. А на питоне никак
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[17:38:37] _lorien: ну так ты книжку то прочитай :)
[17:38:41] Typhon: да потому что питон поделка, точно
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[17:39:31] DrTiBiBo: Г. Россум, Ф.Л.Дж.Дрейк, Д.С.Откидач
Язык программирования Python
[17:39:37] DrTiBiBo: я эту изучал
[17:39:45] quasiyoke: /me призывает администрацию @pythonua не платить зарплату за отвечанье на вопросы в этом месяце всем участникам конференции
[17:40:16] quasiyoke: недорабатываете.
[17:40:25] DrTiBiBo: quasiyoke: согласен
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[17:40:40] quasiyoke: отлично
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[17:41:52] DrTiBiBo: можно просто на примере другом показать, как работают подобные методы.
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[17:42:27] DrTiBiBo: или функции, но с выходными параметрами
[17:42:48] quasiyoke: DrTiBiBo: все функции (в том числе и методы) "хотят", чтобы им передали хоть какое-то (хоть None) но значение
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[17:43:14] xa4a: DrTiBiBo: myuser = 'VasiaPupkin'
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[17:43:23] xa4a: f'
[17:43:24] xa4a: аэ
[17:43:25] xa4a: nvm
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[17:44:20] DrTiBiBo: но если я передаю значение None - оно наким же и остается. Метод не присваивает новое значение
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[17:45:10] quasiyoke: NameError: name 'myuser' is not defined -- это означает, что вы используете переменную, которая не была проинициализирована попробуйте >>> print myuser # тоже не выполнится
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[17:45:59] DrTiBiBo: значит в самом методе беда
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[17:46:08] DrTiBiBo: буду ковыряться
[17:46:15] DrTiBiBo: Всем большое спасибо
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[17:46:29] xa4a: посмотри, что мметод возвращает
[17:46:36] xa4a: print os.GetOwner(..) или чего там.
[17:47:01] quasiyoke: читать книжку! хотите писать на питоне? читайте книжку, выполняйте примеры в ней, модифицируйте их.
[17:47:31] quasiyoke: xa4a: да человек же не понял к чему там NameError!
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[17:48:28] xa4a: quasiyoke: "Урлконфы не позволяют задать имя для страницы"
[17:48:31] xa4a: позволяют же
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[17:48:50] xa4a: прикручивать xml к урлконфам - изначально бесперспективняк
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[17:50:40] quasiyoke: в урлконфе должно, получается, быть какое-то место, где я смогу привязать к регеспу имя? не видел пока такого примера.
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[17:51:23] quasiyoke: потом это имя я хочу взять в шаблон или выбрать из всех регеспов все имена, чтобы сделать меню...
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[17:52:02] xa4a: http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/http/urls/
[17:52:11] xa4a: Ctrl+F -> name=
[17:52:21] xa4a: http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/http/urls/#django.conf.urls.defaults.url
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[17:53:07] xa4a: но вот с меню, думаю, могут возникнуть проблемы
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[17:53:36] quasiyoke: именно.
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[17:55:21] quasiyoke: но имён ещё не видал)
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[17:55:42] quasiyoke: ...до этого
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[18:11:16] quasiyoke: Посмотрите пожалуйста кому интересно то, как я вижу иерархический xml для изначально плоского http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/http/urls/#example : http://dumpz.org/35686/
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[18:15:08] xa4a: это ахтунг
[18:15:44] quasiyoke: :) почему?
[18:15:47] xa4a: единственный случай, где xml может быть оправданным - для взаимодействия абсолютно разнородных систем, которые по xsdшкам могут сами раздуплять интерфейсы
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[18:15:59] xa4a: во всех остальных случаях - xml - overkill
[18:16:13] superbobry: xa4a: и то если ты почему то не можешь юзать JSON или тебе нужны специфичные xmlные фичи
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[18:16:41] xa4a: quasiyoke: замени xml на питоновский файл с одним словарём с вложенностями
[18:16:47] xa4a: потом будем говорить :)
[18:16:58] quasiyoke: у меня уже есть это
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[18:17:06] xa4a: так а зачем xml??
[18:17:16] quasiyoke: не просто словарь, а sorteddict
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[18:18:15] quasiyoke: да потому, что ужасно это. выглядит плохо) ну не обязательно xml. хоть haml -- Если там есть иерархии, конечно
[18:18:15] xa4a: ordereddict, да
[18:18:41] xa4a: dict выглядит хуже xml? Oo
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[18:18:50] xa4a: нуэ
[18:18:57] xa4a: сделай вложенными туплами
[18:19:07] xa4a: дикты ж не нужны тут
[18:19:08] quasiyoke: внутри дикт коретжи пока с туплами
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[18:19:26] quasiyoke: чёрт кортежи*
[18:19:52] quasiyoke: просто кортежи)
[18:19:58] xa4a: ещё раз, чем не устраивает джанговский урл диспатчер?
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[18:21:11] quasiyoke: ну а вы посмотрите на тот пример из джангодоксов -- все 4 раза был повторен паттерн корня проекта
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[18:21:34] quasiyoke: типично для всякой попытки развернуть дерево в полосу
[18:21:41] xa4a: ><
[18:21:46] xa4a: почитай же доки
[18:22:10] xa4a: а) это не паттерн корня проекта
[18:22:18] xa4a: и даже не паттерн аппликейшна
[18:22:26] quasiyoke: import() можно делать глубоко внури, наверное?
[18:22:28] xa4a: б) общий паттерн можно вынести в первый аргумент
[18:22:40] xa4a: не импорт
[18:22:48] xa4a: а django.conf.urlresolvers.include
[18:23:01] xa4a: всё, я понял
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[18:23:19] xa4a: quasiyoke: читай от корки до корки ;) http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/http/urls/
[18:23:20] quasiyoke: да, include() имел я в виду
[18:23:39] quasiyoke: короче читать, да
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[18:24:07] quasiyoke: надеюсь от моих претензий ничего не останется
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[18:33:57] quasiyoke: дикты там нужны. их нельзя сменить на туплы, поскольку я никогда не прописываю нигде урл жёстко, а ссылаюсь на этот свой огромный дикт. url='%s%s' % (PAGES_NAMES['root'].url,PAGES_NAMES['root']['articles']) # мало связанный с реальность пример, но просто показывает общую суть -- я в итоге способен подменить сразу целиком во всём проекте урлы на все статьи -- гибко, но неэлегантно. в моём же xml (не к ночи будь он упомянут) у всякой секции сайта есть атрибут name, задающий жёсткое имя, которое будет упоминаться в коде и pattern -- собственно урл
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[18:34:49] xa4a: django урлы это умеют и без тебя
[18:35:29] quasiyoke: /me ушёл читать.
[18:35:41] xa4a: url('/my_root/articles', name='root-articles') в urlconf, потом в коде - django.conf.urlresolvers.reverse('root-articles')
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[18:35:55] xa4a: и в темплейтах - {% url root-articles %}
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[18:37:10] py_two: добавьте и этот акк в список постоянных посетителей:)
[18:37:13] py_two: кстати!
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[18:37:58] py_two: http://www.lfd.uci.edu/~gohlke/pythonlibs/
[18:38:06] py_two: не благодарите меня, не надо:)
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[18:38:18] py_two: может кому-то и пригодится
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[18:39:04] xa4a: внушительный списочек
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[18:49:28] py_two: такая же, как и от репы activeP
[18:49:34] py_two: на мой взгляд конечно
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[18:51:35] Magister Yoda: привет всем! как сделать окошко с подтверждением действия при сабмите? нашел пример на JS, но что-то не представляю как потом этот самый сабмит делать
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[18:52:09] Magister Yoda: или может есть какие-то стандартные средства не на JS?
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[18:53:39] xa4a: Magister Yoda: confirm()
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[18:54:10] xa4a: привязать к действию submit формы свой колбек, в котором дёрнуть confirm()
[18:54:22] xa4a: и соотв вернуть из колбека true или false
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[18:59:27] Magister Yoda: а про onclick никто не сказал =)
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[19:00:00] Magister Yoda: но всё равно спасибо
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[19:17:43] py_two: есть какие-то экзамплы связанные с выдиранием текста из штмл, формированием коллекции слов ?
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[19:18:53] quasiyoke: py_two, в diveintopython
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[19:18:58] gigimon: JavaScript. Подробное руководство. Изд.5 - Флэнаган Д. - хорошая книга?
[19:19:15] superbobry: gigimon: можешь поверить крокфроду
[19:19:23] superbobry: единственная не очень плохая
[19:19:31] gigimon: не понял)
[19:19:39] gigimon: кто аткой крокфорд - автор?
[19:19:47] superbobry: ну крокфорд ее описал как "не очень плохую"
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[19:19:52] superbobry: это дядька из yahoo
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[19:20:05] superbobry: звезда в js мире :)
[19:20:22] superbobry: собственно http://www.crockford.com
[19:20:38] quasiyoke: py_two: а формирование коллекции слов -- достаточно сложная задача если вы о токенизации, так это, кажется, называется
[19:20:43] gigimon: аа
[19:20:51] xa4a: quasiyoke: стемминг?
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[19:21:24] py_two: quasiyoke: нет, простое задание. Выбрать между тегов текст, далее раскидать этот текст по словам отдельным
[19:21:25] xa4a: py_two: как выдирать текст? весь текст? проще тогда выпилить теги регекспом
[19:21:27] quasiyoke: xa4a: ага. у яндекса есть бинарник, делающий это
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[19:21:52] xa4a: py_two: re.sub(r'<[^>]+>', '')
[19:22:07] py_two: xa4a: хах, у меня нет слов
[19:22:11] py_two: 10х
[19:22:34] quasiyoke: ух ты, наверное даже работать будет)
[19:22:43] quasiyoke: будет.
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[19:27:27] quasiyoke: ''.join(re.findall(r'>([^<]+)<',s))
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[19:29:12] quasiyoke: ''.join(re.findall(ur'>([^<]+)<',s,re.U))
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[19:30:22] py_two: diveinto.python.ru с example и содержимое книги с завернутыми локальными линками. Хотите chm делайте, в общем кому надо лейте(308kb):
http://www.sendspace.com/file/zflo9r
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[19:38:03] py_two: все для земляков, ничего для себя:)
[19:38:09] quasiyoke: py_two: вам также нужно выцепить все & и иже с ним
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[23:47:48] gigimon: а что может быть за фигня, форма сделаная через modelform для поля imagefield не валидирует картинку? причем на локалхосте все ок, а на сервере на любую кратинку говорит что плохая
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