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[00:17:28] py_two: и правда производительность в разы выше в линуксе
[00:17:35] py_two: не ожидал!
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[00:36:47] xa4a: по началу
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[06:13:08] Thunde®: как правильно написать?
sql = "INSERT INTO raw VALUES('','"+arIP[i]+"','"+arByte[i]+"','"+arByte[i+1]+"','')"
[06:13:36] Thunde®: короче 5 полей, крайние должны заполняться автоматом, там автоинкремент ид и таймстэмп
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[09:17:59] _lorien: и я его там вижу онлайн
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[11:45:12] bobry_: йо
[11:45:36] bobry_: cutwater, я вспомнил что мне не нравится в веркцойге -- нельзя назначить несколько вьюшек на один роут как в express.js
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[11:50:23] cutwater: bobry_: несколько вьюшек на один роут?
[11:50:26] cutwater: но зачем?
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[11:50:47] bobry_: чтобы не писать многостраничные вьюшки
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[11:51:15] bobry_: или например что самому диспечеризацию делать по GET / POST / w\e параметрам
[11:51:28] bobry_: просто пишешь if request.args("foo"): next()
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[11:52:56] Typhon: Thunder — читни пепца
[11:53:34] Typhon: по DB API 2.0, где чотко написано, что не надо руками собирать запросы из строк и вставлять туда значения
[11:53:48] Typhon: execute и mogrify умеют это делать сами
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[12:13:34] webninja: кто-нибудь делал для жанги чтобы сайт было с айфона смотреть удобно?
[12:13:57] _lorien: А есть ли официальный python tutorial переведённый на русский язык?
[12:14:24] webninja: только если глянуть на python.org там коммунитиес лэнгуиджез
[12:14:29] webninja: там ресурсы перечислены
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[12:16:52] _lorien: о, спасибо, за идею, я там вижу питон-блоги, может новые найду
[12:16:57] _lorien: http://wiki.python.org/moin/RussianLanguage
[12:17:14] webninja: http://wiki.python.org/moin/RussianLanguage
[12:17:16] webninja: да
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[12:25:16] webninja: ммм?
[12:25:30] webninja: я имею в виду как это реализуется в общем виде?
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[12:25:54] webninja: ага понял
[12:26:02] webninja: кссом как-то не камильфо
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[12:29:21] Typhon: если только отображение менять, то ок, я не разбираюсь, правда, какое медиа на ифон срабатывать будет :)
[12:29:39] Typhon: городить свою какую-то шляпу — комильфо? :)
[12:29:39] webninja: я надеялся может решения уже есть готовые
[12:29:45] Typhon: вот, css
[12:29:47] webninja: на вордпресс есть плагин
[12:29:53] webninja: например
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[12:31:36] webninja: https://github.com/mzupan/django-middleware
[12:31:40] webninja: есть такая хрень
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[12:53:30] cutwater: вопрос такой, как можно в джанге замокать некоторые ф-ции, так как им нужно получать информацию с удаленного сервера, которого в данный момент нет
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[12:58:02] _lorien: импортируешь модуь и присваиваешь ему нужные функции
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[12:58:09] _lorien: модуль это объект, его можно менять
[12:58:20] _lorien: только там мета-хуйни много, может чо-нить заглючить по-идее :)
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[13:00:13] cutwater: очень глупый вопрос
[13:00:16] cutwater: где импортировать =)
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[13:00:25] cutwater: есть глупый ответ... в сеттингах
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[13:20:27] _lorien: где хочешь импортируй, главное, чтобы ты это сделал, до того, как кто-то полезет за функцией, которую ты хочешь замаскировать
[13:20:42] _lorien: в settings.py не всё можно замаскировать т.к. сама django там неинициализирована ещё
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[13:20:50] _lorien: в urls.py можно )
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[13:25:04] cutwater: спасибо
[13:25:13] Typhon: cutwater: а что инет говорит по этому поводу?
[13:25:26] Typhon: http://www.mattjmorrison.com/blog/mocking-django вот нагуглилось, например, ты, я думаю, тоже гуглил
[13:25:27] cutwater: Typhon: ну инет подозрительно молчит
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[13:25:47] Typhon: http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/mock/
[13:25:51] cutwater: щас почтиаю. мне просто это надо не совсем для юнит тестов
[13:26:03] Typhon: ну то есть я взял бы либу
[13:26:11] cutwater: либу я и так взял
[13:26:20] Typhon: если на время, то можно даже костыль хуйнуть!
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[13:44:27] cutwater: а у меня будет еще ооочень глупый вопрос
[13:44:32] cutwater: ну сегодня день глупых вопросов
[13:45:17] teraom is now Я здесь.
[13:45:24] cutwater: что лучше

try:
param = request.GET['param']
except KeyError:
return some error

или

if param not in request.GET:
return some error
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[13:46:21] Typhon: !wtf eafp
[13:46:27] Typhon: %)
[13:46:55] Typhon: но вообще, какая ситуация чаще — наличия или отсутствия
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[13:58:25] bobry_: товарищи, а в pytest можно сказать что конкретный метод не требует setup_*?
[13:58:28] Typhon: а как, всё-таки, перевести "capability" на русский, в контексте "capability-based security"? мандат? "мандатная защита"?
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[14:00:58] bobry_: capability это ж еще возможность нет?
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[14:01:37] Typhon: среди переводов есть, да, но в контексте оно как-то не айс
[14:01:50] Typhon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capability-based_security
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[14:16:20] cutwater: блин я идиот
[14:16:32] cutwater: я уже пол часа пырюсь в документацию и не въеду как этим моком пропатчить ф-цию
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[14:17:07] xa4a: вероятно им патчить только методы?
[14:17:16] cutwater: xa4a: разве?
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[14:18:56] xa4a: я только mockito знаю
[14:19:03] xa4a: в нём, кажется, да
[14:19:43] xa4a: ну как бы.. если у тебя есть функция. и где-то ещё ссылка на эту же функцию, то ты вряд ли сможешь повлиять как-то на вызов ф-ии с другой ссылки
[14:20:00] xa4a: (это мои догадки. может на самом деле всё не так)
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[14:20:46] cutwater: xa4a: ну можно же импортировать пакет и заменить в нем?
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[14:21:27] xa4a: ты можешь заменить в модуле атрибут, да. это заметят те, кто берут этот атрибут у модуля
[14:21:44] xa4a: кто будет его брать "поздним связыванием"
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[14:22:34] cutwater: xa4a: ну если это сделать в urls.py до того как его кто-либо импортировал то как раз ок будет
[14:22:51] xa4a: а что ты хочешь мокать?
[14:23:11] xa4a: ага
[14:23:15] xa4a: в сеттингах замокай
[14:23:18] xa4a: чтобы наверняка)
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[14:23:25] cutwater: xa4a: в сеттингах не могу
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[14:23:36] xa4a: урлы, вероятно, до первого запроса могут не импортироваться
[14:23:50] xa4a: модели, __init__.py
[14:23:54] cutwater: xa4a: да просто есть ф-ция invoke_url, которая шлет запрос на сервер аутентификации
[14:23:57] cutwater: у меня этого сервера нет
[14:24:06] cutwater: а разрабатывать механизм аутентификации как-то надо
[14:24:17] cutwater: я хочу написать заглушку чтобы потом не разкомментировать туеву кучу строк кода
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[14:25:04] xa4a: ты можешь подменить просто эту функцию в модуле. и если ты сделаешь это раньше, чем кто-либо её свяжет у себя, то будет счастье
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[14:25:28] xa4a: import auth_module; auth_module.invoke_url = my_hook()
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[14:25:47] xa4a: import auth_module; auth_module.invoke_url = my_hook
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[14:26:04] cutwater: ок
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[14:27:43] xa4a: но опять же. это может не повлиять на вызовы функции внутри этого модуля
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[14:28:05] cutwater: хм...
[14:28:09] cutwater: ща проверим-с
[14:28:14] xa4a: но! этот модуль наверняка дёргает какой-то urllib2; можешь его замкать
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[14:28:34] cutwater: хм тоже верно
[14:28:36] xa4a: чтобы он на определённый запрос давал нужный ответ
[14:28:37] cutwater: и правда
[14:28:48] cutwater: xa4a: я как-то не подумал хех
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[15:19:55] py_two: тут кто-то пользуется вим ?
[15:20:09] py_two: я пользуюсь одной гуёвой вещью, но у нее нет консольного аналога
[15:20:25] py_two: а так полезть на серв, чтобы поправить код - будет непривычно
[15:20:33] py_two: думаю, может стоит вим изучить?:)
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[15:21:01] py_two: в приципе для редактирования конфигов им и пользуюсь достаточно давно, но так, чтобы использовать его для девелопа - как-то не до него было
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[15:21:11] py_two: как считаете нужно на него время тратить или нет ?
[15:21:42] Ляпатяпа: ты сам должен решить
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[15:21:55] Ляпатяпа: я в свое время время потратил и работаю на нем
[15:21:58] Typhon: нет, не стоит, есть же имакс
[15:22:00] Typhon: :)
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[15:28:08] Ляпатяпа: мне лично в кайф неосознанно использовать всякие фишки типа навигации
[15:28:28] Ляпатяпа: ну и несколько удобных плагинов навесил и использую
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[15:29:25] Ляпатяпа: ну и конфиги в hg репе - удобно для нескольких машин
[15:30:10] xa4a: вим +1
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[15:36:23] py_two: а вим поддерживает внутри конфигов переменные окружения свои ?
[15:36:47] py_two: ну типа там %s - полный путь файла открытого, %d - путь файла без самого файла
[15:36:54] py_two: и подобные
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[15:50:21] xa4a: py_two: да
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[15:50:36] xa4a: gunlinux: ты что-то делашеь не так
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[15:51:25] py_two: ваш К.О.
[15:51:33] py_two: xa4a:;)
[15:52:03] xa4a: ну а чо. телепатов же нет
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[15:52:12] xa4a: трейсбеки, ошибки, логи в студию же
[15:52:13] gunlinux: резонно
[15:52:18] gunlinux: one sec plz
[15:53:14] gunlinux: http://dumpz.org/41049/
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[15:53:56] gunlinux: и выдает либо 502 либо unhadeled expetion
[15:54:02] maxp: занятно
[15:54:04] maxp: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/354291/
[15:55:23] gunlinux: у dumpz.org появился конкурент? :D
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[16:01:40] gunlinux: maxp: t [1].append(4) ?
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[16:02:16] gunlinux: maxp: Ну или t[1].append([4]) ?
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[16:04:42] Typhon: maxp: ещё прикольно — x = t[1] ; x += [5] — никаких ошибок :-)
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[16:05:15] maxp: прикол в том, что значение добавляется к списку!
[16:05:49] maxp: т.е. эксепшен возникает как бы несколько позже
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[16:08:05] mishok13: dis.dis'ом посмотри, там всё очевидно
[16:08:16] Typhon: mishok13: с возвращением на родину? :)
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[16:09:07] Typhon: mishok13: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZywMq4KOnA гг
[16:09:17] mishok13: не, я еще в Атланте
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[16:10:04] mishok13: мне еще предстоит 18 часов увлекательного полёта обратно с двумя пересадками
[16:10:52] slav0nic: mishok13, чё там с пайкона стоит смотреть?
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[16:11:04] mishok13: всё, хыхы
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[16:11:21] mishok13: щас скажу
[16:11:30] slav0nic: ладно, отсортирую вечерком по сексуальным предпочтениям
[16:11:51] mishok13: там длинный список
[16:11:58] mishok13: я могу сейчас накидать, собсна
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[16:12:29] Typhon: кидай
[16:12:33] Typhon: или в бложек
[16:12:33] slav0nic: просто гляну по джанге, там кал=\ каждый год одно и тоже
[16:12:47] slav0nic: ещё и про namespace в урлах для плабельных модулей ни слова
[16:12:55] Typhon: о, или в chekvist !
[16:12:58] Typhon: mishok13: ^
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[16:13:48] Typhon: там можно будет заебательски заметки сделать
[16:14:35] slav0nic: ещё можно сайт на гугл сайт запустить и туда писать) зачем всё так усложнять, от уже)
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[16:17:04] mishok13: http://dumpz.org/41055/
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[16:17:21] mishok13: я видел может быть процентов 30 из всех этих
[16:17:28] slav0nic: снк
[16:17:30] mishok13: сужу по конвору и общению в корридорах
[16:17:51] slav0nic: ты туда за счёт организации летал?)
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[16:20:05] mishok13: ладно, всё, я поехал в аэропорт
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[16:52:56] gunlinux: вот я корость, победил flask. Flask падал из-за того, что я с продакшн сервера забрал проект на локал, решил завести по человечески. и корость,не раскоментил init_db() :D
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[22:50:44] py_two: добавте этот jabber id в список постоянных посетителей:)
[22:50:50] py_two: сменил жабу
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[23:33:06] mishok13: посмотрим, конечно
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[23:39:41] py_two: mishok13: так, ты тут не это:)
[23:40:00] mishok13: это ты меня предупреждаешь?
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