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[00:06:07] py_two: все, уже не нужно
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[00:25:55] Makc: Здравствуйте, я новичек в питоне. Кто-нибудь может объяснить почему питон ругается на строку "from Tkinter import *". Модуль Tkinter, как говорит википедия, включен в стандартный питоновский набор =\
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[00:28:07] Makc: Питон 3.2 под виндовс
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[00:30:17] py_two: import Tkinter
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[00:31:14] Makc: import Tkinter
ImportError: No module named Tkinter
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[00:32:56] Makc: папка \Lib\tkinter существует
[00:33:35] Typhon: >>> import tkinter
>>> tkinter
<module 'tkinter' from 'C:\Python32\lib\tkinter\__init__.py'>
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[00:34:15] py_two: ну ок
[00:34:18] py_two: что еще ?
[00:34:30] Makc: эм. дак как мне прописать импортирование?
[00:34:56] Typhon: tkinter
[00:35:03] Typhon: с маленькой буквы
[00:35:24] Makc: 0_0
[00:35:31] Makc: работает
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[00:36:19] py_two: Typhon:)
[00:36:26] Makc: спасибо =)
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[00:36:59] py_two: Typhon: я вижу, что тут практически все в пайтоне работают с дьянго
[00:37:04] Makc: кстати, код брал с википедии. вот и верь после этого ей х) http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tkinter
[00:37:46] Typhon: py_two, не все.
[00:38:03] py_two: практически
[00:38:04] Makc: и еще, ругается на неправилльный синтаксис в print "Hello World!"
[00:38:08] py_two: но много упоминаете
[00:38:14] Typhon: Makc, где там написано, что питоновский модуль-интерфейс к ткинтеру пишется с большой буквы? ;-)
[00:38:23] Typhon: Makc, print -- функций
[00:38:38] Makc: Typhon: там пример кода дан в котором написано from Tkinter import *
[00:38:40] Typhon: функция.
[00:38:56] Typhon: смотри what's changed для 3-ей версии и туториал соотв.
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[00:39:21] Makc: конфликт версий, ненавижу =\
[00:39:28] Typhon: ну они там ещё и wildcard импорт используют, как им вообще можно верить?
[00:39:35] Makc: ну что же, другого выхода нет
[00:39:38] Typhon: что значит "конфликт"?
[00:39:48] Makc: what's changed для 3-ей версии
[00:39:53] Typhon: просто обратную совместимость поломали чуть ^___^
[00:40:02] Makc: мдя)
[00:40:12] Typhon: Makc, ну "мир изменчив"
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[00:40:57] Makc: хм... а во тмне не нравится, что теперь фунция со скобками вызывается
[00:40:59] Typhon: py_two, в контексте "заебаливысосвоейджангой"?
[00:41:20] py_two: Typhon: ага:)
[00:41:21] Typhon: Makc, функции всегда вызываются со скобками
[00:41:31] Typhon: во второй ветки print был statement'ом.
[00:41:34] Typhon: (зачем-то )
[00:41:40] Makc: а чем же тогда раньше print был?
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[00:42:11] Makc: ведь раньше print "Hello World" работало
[00:42:52] Typhon: !pydoc print statement
[00:43:02] Makc: fail
[00:43:12] Makc: !pydoc print
[00:43:18] Typhon: http://docs.python.org/reference/lexical_analysis.html#identifiers
[00:43:28] Typhon: фэйл в том, что ты доков не читал ;-)
[00:43:35] Makc: не да
[00:43:37] Makc: *ну
[00:43:53] Makc: говорю же, только поставит питона)
[00:44:01] py_two: читал доки ? не да!
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[00:44:04] py_two: :)
[00:44:12] Typhon: так тебе в туториал, а на википедию ^_^
[00:44:30] Makc: кэйвордом значит это было...
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[00:47:54] Makc: а там где-т оесть страница рассказывающая о разнице 3.2 и 2.7?
[00:48:19] Makc: а т оя смотрю, в 2.7 print это словарное слово, а в 3.2 это функция 0_0
[00:48:30] Typhon: what's changed.
[00:48:41] Makc: ...
[00:48:49] Typhon: http://docs.python.org/py3k/
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[00:49:30] Typhon: и туториал там есть
[00:49:37] Typhon: актуальный для третьей версии
[00:50:42] Makc: мне просто нужно узнать какая разница между 3.2 и 2.7. лог изменений об этом не говорит т.к. две версии развиваются параллельно
[00:50:50] Makc: или говорит 0_о
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[00:51:30] Makc: м... мне он нифига не говорит об том)
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[00:52:31] Typhon: what's changed. повторюсь в третий раз
[00:52:48] Makc: читаю..
[00:52:49] Typhon: и вообще http://wiki.python.org/moin/Python2orPython3
[00:53:05] Makc: о, судя по ссылке - то что надо
[00:53:24] Makc: =)
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[00:54:29] Typhon: по ссылке есть текст в духе "если ты не знаешь, какой брать и зачем тебе 3 -- бери 2.7"
[00:55:14] Makc: ну блин, ты весь кайф от чтения испортил >_<
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[00:55:51] py_two: а зачем вообще разрабатывать две версии языка ?
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[00:56:05] py_two: имхо создает путаницу
[00:56:45] py_two: Typhon: м ?
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[00:58:33] Makc: ну что же, попробую подружиться с 3.2
[00:58:47] Typhon: никто не разрабатывает _две_ версии языка
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[00:59:13] Typhon: есть 2ая ветка, для которой есть кучи библиотек и прочего
[00:59:29] Typhon: но в которой также есть всякие глупости, ошибки и исторические наследия, которые неплохо бы поправить
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[01:00:03] Makc: надеюсь, вскоре эти библиотеки перепишут для 3.x
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[01:02:27] py_two: Typhon: вообще уникальный язык, но комьюнити несобранное какое-то
[01:02:36] py_two: нет репы бинарных модулей всех
[01:02:46] py_two: а ведь было бы неплохо, согласись
[01:02:51] Typhon: ?
[01:02:58] Typhon: pypu
[01:02:59] Typhon: *pypi
[01:03:03] py_two: под венду
[01:03:24] Typhon: если питон-комьюнити не собраное, то какое тогда ок?
[01:03:44] Typhon: что "под венду"? easy_install есть под винду
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[01:04:00] py_two: ща:)
[01:04:01] Makc: у меня проблемка: создал форму в PyQt4, получил код. запускаю в питоне код - ни ошибок и ни формы не вижу. такое чувство, что или форма не показывается либо код сразу же завершается.
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[01:04:39] Makc: мое знакомство с питоном началось с граблинного поля х)
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[01:05:27] Typhon: а должно было начаться с туториала
[01:05:46] py_two: Typhon: возьмем python-cdb
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[01:06:09] py_two: easy_install.exe python-cdb
[01:06:12] Typhon: ты лучше ответь на мой вопрос
[01:06:17] Typhon: в каком языке комьюнити лучше
[01:06:33] Typhon: и где есть пакеты бинарных дистрибутивов.
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[01:07:08] Typhon: и как питон должен думать о сторонних либах сишных, к которым биндинг ты хочешь поставить
[01:07:19] Typhon: и что делать на системах, в которых нет пакетов и пакетных менеджеров?
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[01:08:52] py_two: Typhon: тот, кто вываливает в сеть пакет - должен по крайней мере собрать под вин\лин\бсд\макос пакет
[01:09:07] py_two: и выложить на binary_pypi
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[01:09:14] py_two: как-то так
[01:09:33] py_two: если я не ошибаюсь в пыхе делается всё через pear
[01:09:43] py_two: и достаточно хорошо, хоть в лин хоть в вин
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[01:09:55] py_two: конечно я понимаю, что там классы
[01:10:27] py_two: но все же можно было бы не создавать путаницу и не заставлять девелоперов компилировать хрен знает что хрен знает чем хрен знает как
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[01:12:06] Typhon: эй
[01:12:10] Typhon: pear -- только пуре-пхп распространяет
[01:12:11] Typhon: насколько я понял из фака
[01:12:46] Typhon: лучше, конечно, хрен знает какой бинарник скачать, который хрен знает из чего собран ;-)
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[01:14:33] py_two: Typhon: ну про бекдоры в OSS тоже говорить не будем
[01:14:46] py_two: open source software
[01:15:06] py_two: для этого и есть ресурсы типа pypi
[01:15:17] py_two: пусть проводят верификацию и после выкладывают
[01:15:31] py_two: есть система доверительных коммитеров и тд
[01:15:56] Typhon: contribute or gtfo %)
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[01:16:15] py_two: :)
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[01:16:31] py_two: не, ну просто непорядок. Для того, чтобы кодить на питоне надо ставить линукс
[01:16:36] py_two: а по-другому никак
[01:16:59] py_two: ну если конечно голова думает хоть чуть-чуть на перед
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[01:17:16] py_two: кодинг в венде на питоне - детский лепет
[01:17:29] py_two: мое мнение
[01:18:24] Makc: я вот думаю завиртуализировать дебиан или убунту и там питонить ибо я уже знаю один скриптовый язык под виндовс, а под линуксом вообще нифига не знаю)
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[01:20:06] py_two: Typhon: до сегодня;)
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[01:22:19] Makc: Typhon: не подскажешь как измерить длительность выполнения скрипта? вклчить timer в начале кода и вывести в консоль время в коце или есть какая-ниудь особая функция, показывающая как долго выполнялся скрипт?
[01:22:28] Typhon: timeit
[01:22:54] Typhon: !pydoc timeit
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[01:26:34] Makc: читаю я хелп и нифига не понимаю как ею пользоваться x_x
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[01:39:53] Makc: вот как мне измерить сколько времени заимет выполнение
for i in range(100):
print (i)
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[02:02:33] Makc: не работает

ary = []
for i in range(10):
ary.append(i)
print (ary)
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[04:11:01] _lorien: Makc: в документации есть примеры использования timeit
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[04:14:29] _lorien: <pubDate>Птн, 18 Мар 2011 02:47:00 +0300</pubDate>
реально ли это распарсить, зная что дата на русском языке?
[04:15:27] _lorien: Чё-то вопрос некорректен, ладно, проехали :)
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[04:42:05] _lorien: Птн, 18 Мар 2011 01:04:00 +0300 - это может быть датой в каком-то стандарте? Есть rfc 822, но там я так понял, только английские названия дней и месяцев.
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[06:24:41] webninja: привет
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[06:27:42] webninja: есть итератор какой-нибудь чтобы грамотно свернуть A=['a','b'] B = ['cd', 'ae', 'bu'] => (false, true, true)
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[06:35:11] _lorien: цикл внутри цикла спасёт тебя :)
[06:35:20] _lorien: заверни всё в функцию, которая будет делать yield
[06:36:31] webninja: ага =( жалко итератора нет
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[06:37:01] webninja: ща почитаю че за yield
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[06:42:59] webninja: ага понял как return только возвращает генератор
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[06:47:12] _lorien: если пытон видит, что в функции есть yield, то он автоматически делает так, шо вызов функции возвращает итератор, который итерируетс по значением, который c помощью yeild выдаются
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[06:57:18] webninja: _lorien спасибо, вроде все получается =)
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[06:59:28] webninja: у меня список итемов есть в словаре там title, product type, url вот мне нужно из него сделать выборку по названию т.е. проверять вхождение нужного кейворда в item['title'] и т.д. вообщем get_category_by_keywords(keywords, fields)
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[07:06:05] webninja: http://dumpz.org/41747/ приму замечания
[07:06:09] webninja: по коду
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[07:08:35] wiz: pep8, pylint, pychecker натрави на него
[07:09:17] _lorien: ебанутые названия переменных )
[07:09:20] webninja: я страюсь соблюдать pep8
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[07:09:27] wiz: for / append свернуть в list comp.
[07:09:29] webninja: так а че этож вспомогательная функция на раз
[07:09:35] _lorien: ii, kk, tt => items, keys, types
[07:09:40] _lorien: ну и что )
[07:09:44] webninja: у пятона внутрях так же )
[07:09:45] wiz: в докстринг доктест, а то непонятно нихера
[07:10:01] webninja: че за докстринг?
[07:10:03] _lorien: ну значит в питоне внутрях тоже ебанутые названия
[07:10:52] wiz: """i am a docstring"""
[07:11:04] _lorien: if ii[t].find(k) != -1:
yield True
else:
yield False
=> yield items[_type].find(key) != 1
[07:11:05] webninja: есть
[07:11:56] _lorien: даже yield k in items[type_]
:)
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[07:12:23] webninja: oh shit
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[07:12:29] webninja: что еще за _
[07:12:42] _lorien: ну шобы не совпадало со ствроенной функцией type
[07:12:52] _lorien: ну у тебя в коде не type_, а t щас )
[07:12:58] _lorien: я просто не использовал твои названия
[07:14:08] _lorien: get_category_by_keword кстати тоже может быть генератором :)
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[07:14:34] webninja: > 20 000 наименований )
[07:14:46] _lorien: Генератор вообще удобная штука :) Единственно, неудобно, когда надо полностью список (например в целях дебага), надо собирать значения через list() в перменную
[07:16:19] _lorien: for item in self.items:
#print [i for i in _match(item, keywords, types)]
if any(_match(item, keywords, types)):
result.append(item['title'])

return result
=> return [x for x in self.items if any(_match(x, keywords, types)]
[07:16:23] _lorien: вот так можно :)
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[07:17:06] _lorien: или так
return filter(lambda x: any(_match(x, keywords, types)), self.items)
[07:17:09] webninja: можно ) ваще говорят не стоит злоупотреблять этим
[07:17:21] wiz: или ifilter
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[07:18:02] wiz: http://metaleks.net/programming/the-evolution-of-a-python-programmer (=
[07:18:32] webninja: простое лучше сложного )
[07:19:18] _lorien: да, можно кстати записать так:
return filter(_match(x, keywords, types), self.items), только переписать _match, чтобы она возвращала просто True или False, т.е. any внуть неё перенести
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[07:19:47] _lorien: и ваще там функция _match не нужна
[07:20:04] _lorien: сделай get_category_by_keyword генератором и там внутри вложенные циклы
[07:20:10] _lorien: :)
[07:20:15] wiz: кстати да
[07:20:32] wiz: а то лишний вызов будет тормозить, если элементов дочёрта
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[07:22:36] webninja: быстро )
[07:22:50] webninja: ну вообщем я уже потерял нить понимания кода
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[07:23:44] webninja: yield items[_type].find(key) != 1 жжесть ) ну ваще так сразу не врубиться
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[07:24:28] wiz: почему?
[07:24:42] wiz: хотя да
[07:24:49] _lorien: там не нужен find
[07:24:51] wiz: поэтому key in ... сильно приятней
[07:25:39] webninja: key in ищет подстроку в строке?
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[07:35:56] webninja: http://dumpz.org/41753/ с первого взгляда не понять что происходит )
[07:36:53] webninja: yield k in items[t] да тоже самое получается
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[07:38:30] webninja: пол года назад глядя на такой код я тихо матерился и верил на слово тому что написано в докстринге, если было написано
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[08:04:11] wiz: убери _матч вообще
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[08:12:48] wiz: ну разверни его, как _lorien сказал
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[09:54:02] webninja: вернее нет там список
[09:54:17] webninja: туда csv читается
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[09:56:12] wiz: кинь пару строк
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[10:03:45] xa4a: тут, если упадёт open(filename, "rb"), то finally тоже упадёт
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[10:04:39] wiz: нет, всё же конструкт с filter, lambda, any мне решительно не нравится
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[10:05:17] wiz: это как писать регруп используя кучу "готовых" функций, хотя там всё в одно выражение делается
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[10:07:27] webninja: xa4a: уже исправил.
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[10:07:48] webninja: да ваще надо поменьше развлекаться с такими штуками
[10:07:55] webninja: простое лучше сложного
[10:09:21] webninja: убрал кстати continue из циклов
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[10:11:21] webninja: filter(lambda x : callable(getattr(string, x)), [atr for atr in dir(string)]) попробуй вот догадайся сразу что это список методов объекта )
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[10:12:01] wiz: list comp. / generator exp. рулят
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[10:13:39] wiz: attr for attr in dir(whatever) if callable(getattr(whatever, attr))
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[10:16:03] xa4a: def get_all_categories(self, field='product type'): items = map(operator.itemgetter(field), self.items); return items.most_common()
[10:16:16] xa4a: опс
[10:16:31] xa4a: def get_all_categories(self, field='product type'): items = collections.Counter(map(operator.itemgetter(field), self.items)); return items.most_common()
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[10:17:38] wiz: map в конструкторе - фэйл ящитаю
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[10:17:58] xa4a: ладно, imap
[10:18:27] wiz: return Counter(self.items[item] for item in self.items).most_common()
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[10:19:25] xa4a: забыл field?
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[10:19:46] wiz: ну не суть важно
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[10:20:01] xa4a: вообще да. так Ъшнее..
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[10:21:37] xa4a: def get_category_by_type(self, categories, type="product type"): return (i for i in self.items if i[type] in categories)
[10:22:02] webninja: жжете )
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[10:23:00] wiz: «код завершён не когда больше нечего дописать, а когда больше нечего убрать» ©
[10:23:24] xa4a: "filter(lambda"
[10:23:33] xa4a: это первый признак, что пора сделать LC
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[10:23:58] webninja: что за LC?
[10:24:06] xa4a: list comprehension
[10:24:09] wiz: lambda - первый признак, что пора сходить выссать кофе и подумать о коде заново
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[10:25:11] webninja: лямбда это как - "смотрите - функциональное программирование"
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[10:25:25] wiz: *функциональное онанирование
[10:25:37] xa4a: def get_category_by_keyword(self, keywords, types=['product type', 'title']): return [i for i in self.items if any(k in i[t] for t in types for k in keywords)]
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[10:26:24] webninja: тем более звучит солидно "лямбда-функции" там же где-то ряд деламбера )
[10:26:37] xa4a: д'Аламбера же
[10:27:00] wiz: сходимость без причины - признак даламбера? ©
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[14:38:11] _lorien: где бы надыбать несколько видео по питону джанго на русском?
[14:38:19] _lorien: конференции там или семинары
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[14:39:05] nott: presidentua что-то делал по джанго.
[14:39:23] _lorien: на rupy.ru нашёл видео щас
[14:39:34] _lorien: но ещё источники не помешают
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[15:11:22] _lorien: http://pep8.ru/video/1 ну вот как-то так :)
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[15:12:08] gigimon: а кто тут в селектеле работает?
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[15:16:38] _lorien: bobry ? bobry : None
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[15:16:59] _lorien: bobry if bobry else not bobry
[15:17:04] gigimon: =(
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[15:24:43] Typhon: _lorien, Дата:
Фев. 10, 2010
Видео с конференции RuPyRu 2007, прошедшей 10 февраля 2007 года в г. Омске.
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[18:16:09] Makc: Typhon: немного подружился с питоном ^__^
правда так и не понял как с помощью timeit получить время выполнения скрипта.
зато реализовал через
import time
start = time.clock()
...
end = time.clock()
print ('Время выполнения скрипта %.3f секунд' % (end - start))
[18:16:51] Typhon: timeit.timeit('''code''', '''setup_code''')
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[18:17:05] Typhon: и кол-вол итераций задать много
[18:17:19] Typhon: по одному прогону судить о времени выполнения -- не тру
[18:17:24] Typhon: поставь ipython и используй оператор timeit
[18:17:24] Makc: он среднее арифметическое подсчитает?
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[18:18:13] Makc: что в code и setup_code пихать-то я вчера так и не понял
[18:19:21] Typhon: !pydoc timeit.timeit
[18:19:38] Makc: я то же самое в хелпе вижу
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[18:19:46] Makc: а толку от этого ноль
[18:19:58] Typhon: timeit.timeit('func()', '''def func():
[1] * 10000''')
[18:20:02] Typhon: очень плохо, что толку ноль
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[18:20:58] Makc: мне что, всю функцию внутри timeit.timeit писать 0_0
[18:21:16] Makc: извращенство x)
[18:21:27] darkillusion: $time myscript.py
[18:21:47] darkillusion: о, не знал что это команда
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[18:23:59] Typhon: darkillusion, тоже один прогон + единое время для сетап кода и собственно кода, который ты хочешь протестить
[18:24:10] Typhon: + старт интерпретатора и подгрузка всякого
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[18:25:45] Makc: timeit.timeit('foo()', '''def foo():
c = 0
file = open("test.txt", 'w')
while ((os.path.getsize("test.txt")/(1024)) < 1):
file.write(str(c))
c += 1
file.close
print (c)''')
[18:25:49] Makc: fail
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[18:32:19] Makc: import timeit
from timeit import Timer

def foo():
print ("just random text")

if __name__=='__main__':
t = Timer("foo()", "from __main__ import foo")
print(t.timeit())
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[21:47:43] bobry: gigimon, я работаю, шито такое?
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[21:49:07] gigimon: bobry: скажи, а ты пилишь облако или и морду, которая показывается пользователю?
[21:49:17] bobry: gigimon, ни то ни то, а какие проблемы с мордой
[21:49:21] gigimon: черт)
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[21:49:38] gigimon: та пару удобств в нее охото, уже писали вам тикет, но как-то за пару месяцев тишина(
[21:50:05] gigimon: bobry: очень хочется список всех своих услуг (в моем случае выделенных серверов) с указанием стоимости каждого в табличке и общей суммой
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[21:50:15] gigimon: а то щас приходится заходить в каждый и смотреть сколько он стоит
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[21:50:39] bobry: gigimon, я если честно в нее не заглядываю -- по слухам там тотальный rewrite в процессе :)
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[21:51:01] gigimon: bobry: ну, ее пилят, это видно, но медленно как-то :)
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[21:51:06] gigimon: ну понятно в общем :) будем ждать
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[21:51:10] gigimon: а так приятная панель...
[21:51:20] gigimon: да и вы приятны местами))
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[21:51:35] Typhon: gigimon, надо же сказать Shibboleet
[21:51:37] bobry: лол :)
[21:51:48] gigimon: ы
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[21:51:50] bobry: gigimon, а какой номер тикета?
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[21:54:16] gigimon: bobry: №14683: №12682:
[21:54:17] gigimon: :)
[21:54:23] gigimon: вроде мелочи, но их нехватает
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[21:56:28] gigimon: bobry: а у вас панель на питоне или пхп?
[21:56:38] bobry: gigimon, меня туда не пускает что то, aww
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[21:56:48] gigimon: =(
[21:56:49] bobry: пока на php, но я так понимаю что это legacy
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[21:57:05] gigimon: ну надеюсь будете быстро прогрессировать и не для облаков)
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[21:57:57] bobry: да-да, я тоже надеюсь :)
[21:58:04] bobry: нам бы ui designer'a еще
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[21:58:11] bobry: висит вакансия и нихто не идет
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[21:59:09] bobry: кстати кто нить знает *что* это http://codeforces.ru
[21:59:18] bobry: на хабре линк проскочил, еще и спонсор вконтакте
[21:59:24] bobry: видимо под фейсбук косют опять
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[21:59:48] Typhon: у вконтакта давно конкурсы были
[22:00:00] bobry: программистские?
[22:00:05] bobry: я помню только xmpp сервер
[22:00:08] Typhon: чтобы отличников-медалистов-спортивных-программистов нанимать
[22:00:09] Typhon: угу
[22:00:45] bobry: беру свои слова назад тогда :)
[22:00:51] Typhon: не, раньше что-то было
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[22:01:27] Typhon: что-то про подсказу для поиска, кажется было
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[22:02:26] SemyonKozakov: Здравствуйте
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[22:02:35] bobry: привет
[22:02:39] SemyonKozakov: У меня имеется проблема с xmpppy
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[22:02:55] SemyonKozakov: Я пытаюсь залогиниться и передать пробное сообщение
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[22:03:01] SemyonKozakov: и получаю следующую ошибку
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[22:03:39] SemyonKozakov: http://pastebin.com/tyViAC6i
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[22:04:27] bobry: SemyonKozakov, дык может у Client действительно нет атрибута Dispatcher?
[22:05:10] SemyonKozakov: Дык это уже происходит внутри xmpppy, и в том, что там его нет, я сомневаюсь
[22:05:51] bobry: попробуй взять стабильную версию, а не rc
[22:06:04] SemyonKozakov: bobry: попробую
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[22:06:51] SemyonKozakov: Кстати, а можно ли предварительно удалить старую версию
[22:07:02] bobry: смотря как ты ее ставил
[22:07:06] bobry: easy_install?
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[22:07:17] SemyonKozakov: bobry: через setup.py
[22:07:30] SemyonKozakov: из архива с программой
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[22:08:07] bobry: по моему через setup.py нельзя -- только ручками
[22:08:23] bobry: но я могу ошибаться, pip развращает :)
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[22:09:26] SemyonKozakov: Установил. Удалил старую. Толку - 0.
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[22:10:03] bobry: та же ошибка?
[22:10:12] bobry: а можешь показать свой код? может ты там что не так делаешь
[22:11:06] SemyonKozakov: bobry: Ошибка та же. Код - http://pastebin.com/RwQWjQpn
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[22:12:10] bobry: тык ета, может у тебя connect и auth не проходят?
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[22:12:32] bobry: они возвращают статус операции
[22:12:34] bobry: если я не путаю
[22:12:35] SemyonKozakov: bobry: А как выяснить, проходят ли они?
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[22:15:53] SemyonKozakov: Вот ещё что есть в консоли:
[22:15:58] SemyonKozakov: Could not load one of the supported DNS libraries (dnspython or pydns). SRV records will not be queried and you may need to set custom hostname/port for some servers to be accessible.
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[22:16:07] SemyonKozakov: Это может повлиять?
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[22:16:29] bobry: м, по моему это не обязательно
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[22:27:04] bobry: блин, все люди которые до сих пор держат проекты на гуглокоде, sf или прости господи savanaah -- чем они думают?
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[22:27:26] bobry: я вот хочу заслать патч в django-modeltranslation, сколько гемороя я должен познать чтобы это сделать %)
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[22:29:11] Typhon: git diff > blabla.patch и в рассылку им :-)
[22:30:29] bobry: ну когда знаешь что можно по человечески
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[22:30:38] bobry: олд скул методы не кажутся такими привлекательными :)
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