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[08:03:31] py_two: ох и тяжело вставать на работу
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[09:15:16] py_two: возможно сделть сплит по двум или больше словам ?
[09:15:35] py_two: или прийдется список вручную строить ?
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[09:23:56] deepwalker: регулярки знаешь?
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[09:29:23] py_two: deepwalker: неа, с регулярками по сути дела вообще не работал:)
[09:29:47] deepwalker: поищи книжку фридла и прочти
[09:30:03] deepwalker: без регулярок будет плохо
[09:30:57] deepwalker: твой случай решается типа так - re.split(r'(kuku|rtyry|fghfh)', strng)
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[09:46:10] py_two: deepwalker: а точное название книги какое ?:)
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[09:48:08] deepwalker: http://wmate.ru/ebooks/book67.html
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[10:47:17] py_two: deepwalker: спасибо
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[12:50:50] dayfan: Всем привет, где можно посмотреть на исходные коды проектов?
[12:51:17] bobry: dayfan, каких именно?
[12:51:19] bobry: утрецо cutwater \o
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[12:53:16] cutwater: dayfan: например на http://github.com
[12:53:28] cutwater: dayfan: а вообще use google, Luke
[12:53:56] Typhon: видимо хочется на чоткие проекты посмотреть
[12:53:59] Typhon: а не на абы что
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[12:54:36] bobry: тык pypy какой нить можно
[12:54:43] bobry: достаточно чоток?
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[12:55:13] dayfan: Ну да, просто разнообразные проекты. Просто хочется посмотреть что и как пишут
[12:55:30] bobry: github тогда
[12:55:40] dayfan: Ping
[12:56:11] dayfan: Спасибо, посмотрю.
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[12:56:30] cutwater: dayfan: исходники ping можно тоже найти
[12:56:36] bobry: :))
[12:57:25] dayfan: C= я просто проверил, не вылетел ли я
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[13:02:21] youshi: граждане, кто разбирается в pylons? подскажите, как из контроллера достать части URL текущей страницы? map.connect('/{controller}/{action}/{category}/{id}') - вот как из такого URL, к примеру, выдернуть содержимое {category}?
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[14:23:02] Magister Yoda: Привет всем. помогите представить модель двухнедельного расписания занятий. http://www.rsvpu.ru/timetable/site.php?o=shp&p=293&sgru=%C8%DD-317&prep= - пример
[14:25:02] cutwater: Magister Yoda: чем помочь?
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[14:25:27] cutwater: сайт глобальный пиздец
[14:25:31] cutwater: простите
[14:25:34] Magister Yoda: это да
[14:25:42] Magister Yoda: не я делал)
[14:25:58] Magister Yoda: кароче чтобы расписание в БД хранилось
[14:26:09] Magister Yoda: модель нужна
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[14:27:55] cutwater: Magister Yoda: ну подумай
[14:27:58] Magister Yoda: то есть либо же у меня 14 ячеек на группу, в каждой из которых хранится в json-формате весь день, либо же всё в одной ячейке
[14:28:10] Magister Yoda: либо ещё что-нибудь
[14:28:22] cutwater: о_О
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[14:28:27] cutwater: JSON ну вы извращенец
[14:28:28] Magister Yoda: вот я хз)
[14:29:03] cutwater: ну вообще расписание можно представить по разному. это может быть просто событие для определенной группы, которое может повторяться
[14:29:04] Magister Yoda: если есть хорошая идея - не стесняясь, говори её =)
[14:29:09] cutwater: а может копироваться для каждого дня
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[14:29:32] Magister Yoda: копироваться откуда?
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[14:29:35] cutwater: расписание пар можно вынести в отдельную таблицу если оно фиксировано
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[14:29:57] cutwater: Magister Yoda: имеется ввиду у тебя есть "событие" оно может повторяться с даты 1 по дату 2 с такой-то периодичностью
[14:30:12] cutwater: а может быть запись на каждое событие на эту дату
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[14:30:26] cutwater: а можно еще как-нибудь подумать...
[14:30:31] cutwater: в зависимости от того что конкретно тебе ндао
[14:30:50] Magister Yoda: мне просто надо расписание само в БД хранить =)
[14:31:04] cutwater: кто мешает?
[14:31:10] cutwater: а я тут тебе о чем говорю
[14:31:11] Magister Yoda: формат
[14:31:15] cutwater: блджад
[14:31:29] cutwater: Magister Yoda: какой придумаешь такой и будет. я тебе примерно описал как это можно хранить.
[14:31:29] Magister Yoda: как событие не надо
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[14:31:47] Typhon: если тебе никаких запросов не надо, то храни хоть строкой
[14:31:51] cutwater: Typhon: +1
[14:31:58] cutwater: Magister Yoda: мысли головой а не жопой.
[14:32:19] Typhon: другое дело, что нафига тебе бд тогда ;-)
[14:32:23] Magister Yoda: cutwater: отличная идея! и как я сам не догадался!
[14:32:27] cutwater: в идеале пара - это событие. оно имеет время начала / конца (или номер если у всех одно и тоже время)
[14:32:32] Magister Yoda: ах ну да! я же мыслил жопой
[14:32:50] cutwater: Magister Yoda: и может быть регулярным или единичным. открой любой календарь.
[14:33:05] cutwater: Magister Yoda: так у тебя еще возникает вопрос "как хранить" или за тебя модель написать?
[14:33:24] Magister Yoda: я просто саму модель не могу представить
[14:33:35] cutwater: ну а ты попробуй представить по разному
[14:33:38] cutwater: глядишь и выйдет
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[14:36:15] Magister Yoda: самым простым мне кажется json....
[14:36:22] Magister Yoda: вот ничо в голову не приходит
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[14:37:09] Magister Yoda: Typhon: нет, ну помимо хранения я его должен буду ещё извлекать и возможно менять...
[14:37:56] Typhon: ну храни джсон тогда, чо? в каучбд.
[14:38:13] Typhon: если запросов типа "покажи ивенты за такой то промежуток " не будешь делать
[14:39:39] cutwater: Magister Yoda: а я бы сказал иди читай учебники
[14:39:52] cutwater: нахера делать модель в которой ты будешь хранить все запакованное в JSON
[14:40:11] Magister Yoda: ну предложи вариант лучше
[14:40:16] cutwater: Magister Yoda: я уже предложил
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[14:40:33] Magister Yoda: ты предложил что-то абстрактное и ничего конкретного
[14:40:35] cutwater: а еще можешь воспользоваться гуглом. такого уже как бы навалом. я нашел за 3 минуты
[14:40:58] cutwater: Magister Yoda: потому что я хочу верить в человечество и считаю что ты не совсем идиот, чтобы не смог сам написать модель по описанию.
[14:41:32] Magister Yoda: ну хоть на этом спасибо...
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[14:43:31] Magister Yoda: покажи что нагуглил, если конечно тебе не жалко
[14:43:59] cutwater: Magister Yoda: ты можешь попробовать это сделать самостоятельно
[14:44:40] Magister Yoda: значит жалко, ну собственно я и не сомневался в тебе. я попытался и ничего не нашёл.
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[14:45:22] cutwater: Magister Yoda: я просто хочу чтобы ты научился думать а не просить каждый раз чтобы тебе все разжевали в врот положили
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[14:45:36] cutwater: а ты бы сделал Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V и было заебись
[14:46:03] Magister Yoda: да хорошь отмазоны всякие писать.
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[14:50:56] cutwater: Magister Yoda: нет ну мне просто обидно, что некоторые особо одаренные личности не в состоянии сделать тривиальные вещи.
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[14:52:46] Ляпатяпа: вещь не тривиальная
[14:53:02] Ляпатяпа: но я бы посоветовал сделать самому не идеальную, но работающую модель
[14:53:08] Ляпатяпа: экспа и все такое
[14:53:23] cutwater: Ляпатяпа: если в подробности вдаваться то есть сложные моменты.
[14:53:24] Ляпатяпа: ну и может довести ее до идеальной
[14:53:30] cutwater: Но можно же написать хотя бы бызовую рабочую
[14:53:38] cutwater: примеров куча. можно взять за пример любой календарь
[14:54:03] cutwater: Ляпатяпа: просто стоит понимать что расписания тоже бывают разные. и в общем виде оно имеет как раз таки вид календаря с событиями. а дальше идут навороты
[14:54:24] cutwater: как сделать календарь с событиями - я думаю может осилить человек если у него все впорядке с интеллектуальным развитием
[14:54:29] cutwater: а не канючить у людей готовое решение
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[15:47:47] bobry: товарищи, мне нужно в лупе выполнять какие то действия раз в N секунд -- есть что нибудь готовое для такого?
[15:48:05] Typhon: крон :D
[15:48:06] bobry: идеально было бы в виде @every(60) а потом где нибудь scheduler.run()
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[15:48:16] bobry: Typhon, ну да -- только мне надо в рамках одного скрипта
[15:48:37] Typhon: у libev есть тайм бэйсед ивенты, но это тяжеловесно, наверное
[15:48:56] bobry: да, хотелось бы что нибудь pure python и поменьше
[15:48:58] xa4a: while True: threading.Thread(target=qweqwe).start(); time.sleep(60)
[15:49:04] Typhon: import sched
[15:49:05] Typhon: %)
[15:49:20] bobry: http://docs.python.org/library/sched.html
[15:49:41] bobry: xa4a, тоже вариант в принципе, спасибо :)
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[15:50:37] bobry: New in version 2.6.
[15:50:37] xa4a: вон там из sched ссылка ещё на threading.Timer
[15:50:39] bobry: :(
[15:51:41] Typhon: bobry: вы всё ещё на 25?
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[15:52:04] bobry: Typhon, у нас в продакшене centos
[15:52:09] bobry: со всеми вытекающими
[15:52:14] bobry: 25 там даже не пахнет
[15:52:20] Typhon: у нас был rhel 4 и rhel 5
[15:52:28] Typhon: был питон 23
[15:52:33] bobry: 2.4 пока что
[15:52:37] Typhon: потом моими стараниями — 27 :)
[15:52:49] bobry: ого, вот это вкусно :)
[15:53:06] Typhon: кстати, надо спросить, не выложили ли рпмы они там
[15:53:09] Typhon: куда-нибудь
[15:53:34] Typhon: python, flask, psycopg2 ещё пачка разных были
[15:54:05] bobry: у нас еще зависимость на биндинги сишные -- не факт что они заведутся с > 2.4
[15:54:11] bobry: правда это вопрос времени и прямых рук
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[15:55:37] Typhon: у нас были самописные биндинги для железок, под 2.3 вроде ок спортировались на 2.5 и выше, а затем и генератор был написан, вообще.
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[15:58:06] Typhon: так что, собирай и тестируй %)
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[16:10:25] _lorien: Внутри джанги есть херь, чтобы делать 2->nd, 4->th, 5->th ?
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[16:19:00] bobry: http://packages.python.org/APScheduler/
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[16:21:30] Typhon: _lorien: ordinal
[16:21:33] Typhon: http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/contrib/humanize/
[16:21:56] _lorien: Typhon: ага, спасибо
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[19:08:28] Magister Yoda: вкратце скажите, что такое Unladen Swallow?
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[19:16:20] Typhon: Magister Yoda: в монти пайтон и holy grail, у короля артура спрашивали, какова скорость unladen swallow (ласточки, ага)
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[20:30:47] xa4a: кто-то использует blogspot + feedburner?
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[20:35:18] _lorien: xa4a:
>>> print '\n'.join([x.site_url for x in Feed.objects.all() if 'blogspot' in x.site_url and 'feedburner' in x.feed_url])
http://deepwalker.blogspot.com/
http://otkds.blogspot.com/
http://djangonaut.blogspot.com/
http://asvetlov.blogspot.com/
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[21:20:16] огыешсук: -------> print(len(set([x.link for x in Feed.objects.all() if 'blogspot' in x.link and 'feedburner' in x.feed_url])))
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[21:20:18] огыешсук: хе-хе
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[22:27:05] Magister Yoda: http://rghost.ru/4975665 посмотрите плиз модель... хотя конечно бред, но это лучшее что я смог придумать...
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[22:30:36] Typhon: чо там за архив непонятный?
[22:31:09] Typhon: ты можешь куда-нибудь засунуть, чтобы не нужно было файлы странные качать? ;-)
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[22:41:31] Magister Yoda: обычный 7z архив с проектом django
[22:42:03] огыешсук: кто на 1.3 уже перешел? у меня чегойта не выходит каменный цветок
[22:42:15] Magister Yoda: а как я по-твоему ещё могу разместить целый проект?или тебе пофайлово залить? =)
[22:42:39] Magister Yoda: огыешсук: в смысле не выходит?
[22:42:45] Magister Yoda: застрял?
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[22:43:00] огыешсук: угу, пишут Unknown field(s) (desciption) specified for Item, на ровном месте
[22:43:09] Magister Yoda: я 1.3 уже давно поставил
[22:43:12] огыешсук: а на 1.2.5 прекрасно пашет
[22:43:33] огыешсук: Это на ModelForm ругается
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[22:44:18] Magister Yoda: у меня другой прикол был. причём он начинался с 1.2.4 и далее. а вот на 1.2.3 норм было. само как-то исправилось ;-)
[22:44:36] Magister Yoda: и так же на ровном месте
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[22:46:58] Magister Yoda: можно ли как-нибудь по хардлинку найти файл, с которого этот хардлинк сделан?
[22:47:03] Typhon: Magister Yoda, диграмой, естественно
[22:47:11] Typhon: ты же модель описываешь
[22:47:16] Typhon: нахуя вообще весь проект?
[22:47:53] Typhon: максимум -- models.py -- но это тоже херово %)
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[22:48:49] Magister Yoda: http://dumpz.org/43896/
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[22:49:45] Typhon: # Класс Студент
class Student
[22:49:50] Typhon: привет, капитан!
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[22:50:23] Magister Yoda: тссссс
[22:50:42] Magister Yoda: ты дальше не видел)
[22:50:52] Magister Yoda: или уже видел и валяешься под столом)
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[22:51:25] Typhon: Pair и Day
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[22:51:36] Typhon: у Pair есть номер
[22:51:37] Magister Yoda: угу
[22:51:47] Typhon: а в дне у тебя поля итак 1-6
[22:51:55] Typhon: зачем?
[22:52:11] Typhon: и что если pair6 = Pair(number = 6)
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[22:53:29] Magister Yoda: убрать модель Pair?
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[22:53:46] Typhon: и ты уверен, что не придётся нулевую пару делать и 7-100500ую ?
[22:53:59] Typhon: Magister Yoda, нет, зачем, убрать оттуда number, например.
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[22:54:17] Typhon: к паре можно же преподов подцепить, ещё чо-нить, помимо названия.
[22:54:39] Magister Yoda: ну то изначально уверен, но скорее всего систему нужно будет расширять, так что вот не знаю как это реализовать
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[22:56:49] Magister Yoda: Typhon: есть идеи?)
[22:57:44] Typhon: самый простой, косой и не нравящийся мне путь -- все возможные описать ^_^ ну тоесть, день делится на 12 пар (или сколько там ща? )
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[22:58:12] Magister Yoda: ну как бэ пар получается как раз таки 6
[22:58:18] Magister Yoda: каждая пара - 2 часа
[22:58:33] Typhon: в сутках надо смотреть!
[22:58:34] Magister Yoda: http://www.rsvpu.ru/timetable/site.php?o=shp&p=293&sgru=%C8%DD-317&prep= вот смотри сам
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[22:59:07] Magister Yoda: ну дак я так и сделал - описал все возможные
[22:59:08] Typhon: я семь вижу, кстати
[22:59:26] Magister Yoda: оу... точняк) просто ни разу 7 не было)
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[23:00:43] Magister Yoda: исправил - http://dumpz.org/43898/ вот как то так
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[23:08:12] Typhon: __unicode__ у тебя тупые какие-то, риальне удобно будет? ;-) ну вот ид показывать -- кому он нужен?
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[23:09:12] Magister Yoda: ну... можно и убрать... но это не особо относится к теме)
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[23:19:52] xa4a: никто не помнит, как называется биржа фрилансеров-тестировщиков? на хабре ещё пару раз пробегало
[23:20:04] Magister Yoda: фиксбер
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