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[10:44:27] : piranha установил(а) тему: python.su | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи в google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://➡.ws/pu
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[11:29:12] Magister Yoda: http://dumpz.org/44028/ классы group и student - как сделать перекрестный FK?
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[11:29:41] cutwater: имена классов с большой буквы ну
[11:29:58] Magister Yoda: ох... переделаю...
[11:30:10] Magister Yoda: дак как сделать перекрестный FK?
[11:30:18] cutwater: Magister Yoda: марш к доске и 100 раз написать "Я буду использовать PEP8"
[11:30:30] cutwater: Magister Yoda: в смысле перекрестный?
[11:30:33] cutwater: ты чего хочешь?
[11:30:53] cutwater: а ты имеешь ввиду FK на старосту
[11:31:03] Magister Yoda: class student имеет FK group, а group имеет FK student
[11:31:13] Magister Yoda: *класс
[11:31:26] cutwater: Magister Yoda: я тебе уже говорил OneToOneField
[11:31:30] cutwater: + null=True
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[11:32:07] cutwater: правда тут пишут что в джанге с этим связан баг
[11:32:12] cutwater: но ты попробуй
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[11:57:00] _lorien: там не нужен перекрёстный fk
[11:57:11] _lorien: стеднт ссылается на группу через фк - всё, больше ничо не надо
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[12:23:45] webninja: starosta = models.ForeignKey(student)
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[12:24:28] webninja: говорят не стоит даже привыкать писать транслитом =)
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[12:25:04] webninja: кстати говрят 3ий пайтон поддерживает уникод полностью и там можно так def моя_функция(параметр1=5)
[12:25:05] cutwater: webninja: +1
[12:25:19] cutwater: _lorien: он имел ввиду старосту как хранить
[12:25:24] cutwater: булевым полем или таки ключиком
[12:25:41] cutwater: булевым полем имхо не комильфо.
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[12:27:38] webninja: йода ты случайно не составление оптимального расписания делаешь?
[12:28:23] webninja: почему булевым полем не камильфо?
[12:28:49] cutwater: webninja: ну-с у обоих подходов есть плюсы и минусы.
[12:29:11] webninja: йода староста будет - headman
[12:29:15] Magister Yoda: нет. хотя может быть когда-нибудь в будущем
[12:29:29] Magister Yoda: я знаю. просто там решил так написать
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[12:29:44] Magister Yoda: _lorien: а со старостой что делать?
[12:29:44] webninja: пеп8 почитай
[12:29:49] webninja: там немного
[12:30:03] cutwater: и даже на русском есть
[12:30:55] webninja: сегодня на pep8.ru статью нашел интересныю
[12:31:35] webninja: узнал что такое замыкания ) недавно просто обнаружил что если def f(p=random.random()) то p будет только один раз вычилсятся.
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[12:32:01] webninja: http://blog.dzinko.org/2011/03/python_28.html
[12:32:25] webninja: а замыкания в других языках тоже есть?
[12:32:59] cutwater: внезапно есть
[12:33:51] webninja: спрашивал давно про сабдомены
[12:33:59] webninja: случайно нашел сегодня https://github.com/tkaemming/django-subdomains
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[12:47:49] Magister Yoda: дак как сделать со старостой?
[12:47:53] Magister Yoda: я что-то так и не понял
[12:48:03] Magister Yoda: код уже под pep8 переделал http://dumpz.org/44028/ =)
[12:49:27] Magister Yoda: cutwater: что за OneToOneField? как его юзать? я описание только нашел - http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/models/fields/#onetoonefield но ничего не понятнл
[12:49:39] cutwater: это печально
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[12:49:48] cutwater: Magister Yoda: ну замени на булево поле. так будет реально проще и тебе и окружающим
[12:50:48] Magister Yoda: то есть перенести в студента?
[12:50:52] cutwater: Magister Yoda: вообще какие бывают отношения в реляционных базах данных сможешь щас рассказать?
[12:51:15] Magister Yoda: связи?
[12:51:20] cutwater: Magister Yoda: ну у студента сделай булево поле is_headman
[12:51:24] cutwater: Magister Yoda: угу
[12:51:39] Magister Yoda: идент, не идент, категориальные...
[12:51:48] Magister Yoda: эээм... больше не помню)
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[12:52:17] cutwater: либо я дурак... либо это не ответ на вопрос и бред
[12:52:59] Magister Yoda: связи в базе между таблицами бывают: идентифицированные, не идентифицированные, категориальные и т.д.
[12:53:05] Magister Yoda: так лучше?
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[12:55:01] cutwater: Magister Yoda: я тебя вообще о типах отношений спрашивал
[12:56:15] Magister Yoda: дык я тя спорсил - связи? ты говоришь - да
[12:56:53] cutwater: народ кто-нибудь с приведенной магистером терминологией знаком?
[12:57:05] Typhon: cutwater: интуит.ру
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[12:57:08] Typhon: %)
[12:57:34] Magister Yoda: Многие -ко-многим, один-ко-многим, один-к-одному - ты про это?
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[12:57:43] cutwater: угу
[12:58:27] cutwater: Typhon: ссылку ну
[12:59:17] cutwater: Magister Yoda: это к вопросу что такое OneToOneField
[12:59:17] Typhon: http://www.intuit.ru/department/se/devis/10/2.html
[12:59:44] cutwater: тюйопт
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[13:00:02] cutwater: Typhon: мне просто любопытно это каким концом к обсуждаемому вопросу
[13:00:35] cutwater: я бы ни за что не догадался искать там гы
[13:00:55] Magister Yoda: на самом деле - это одно и то же, просто разные слова
[13:01:57] cutwater: тем не менее
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[13:02:38] Magister Yoda: ну конечно - "cutwater всегда прав"...
[13:02:56] cutwater: Magister Yoda: пока не доказано обратное ну
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[13:05:36] Magister Yoda: http://dumpz.org/44028/ в общем вот так...
[13:06:03] cutwater: Magister Yoda: норм
[13:06:10] Magister Yoda: !wtf pep8
[13:06:15] Magister Yoda: хм...
[13:06:25] Magister Yoda: а может стоит добавить ссылку на русском?
[13:06:31] Magister Yoda: http://rukeba.com/blog/2008/10/18/pep8-korotko-i-po-russki/
[13:06:40] cutwater: нет
[13:06:51] cutwater: Magister Yoda: если ты не можешь читать на английском - вон из профессии
[13:06:59] cutwater: лучше быть учителем информатики
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[13:07:20] Magister Yoda: читать могу. и всё равно мало ли люди там французкий изучали или немецкий
[13:07:32] Typhon: Magister Yoda: там хуита же неполная
[13:07:32] Magister Yoda: или латынь :-)
[13:08:08] cutwater: Magister Yoda: когда де факто языком разработчиков будет латынь - приходи поговорим
[13:08:26] cutwater: а пока что учи английский. без него ты никто.
[13:08:35] Magister Yoda: я например в школе классе в 7 или 8 учил латынь)
[13:08:53] cutwater: Magister Yoda: no body cares
[13:08:56] cutwater: *nobody
[13:09:25] Magister Yoda: а причём тут это?
[13:09:42] cutwater: Magister Yoda: при том.
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[13:10:06] Magister Yoda: ну ладно. проехали
[13:11:33] Magister Yoda: стоит ли аудитории делать отдельным классом? например там свойство будет - наличие компьютеров
[13:11:56] cutwater: к теме конретно насписания это не относится.
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[13:12:03] cutwater: так что имхо не стоит.
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[13:12:11] cutwater: хотя может и стоит
[13:12:35] Magister Yoda: хотя да... это уже перебор
[13:12:44] cutwater: Magister Yoda: понимешь чтобы ответить на вопрос "стоит ли"
[13:13:03] cutwater: задай себе вопрос "зачем".
[13:14:16] Magister Yoda: ах да я вот что ещё хотел - типа сделать рассылку СМС'ок, сообщений через ICQ или Email, если тот прогуливал - что из этого посоветуете реализовать?
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[13:16:25] Magister Yoda: СМСки только через гейт какой-нибудь скорее всего получится только, а гейты как выяснилось не у всех операторов есть. через сайт правда можно, но это уже будет ввод каптчи - тоже не айс. поэтому остаётся icq или email
[13:16:58] Magister Yoda: хотя может я плохо гуглил насчёт гейтов
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[13:17:20] webninja: да йода без инглиша никак
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[13:17:49] webninja: смски только через гейт да
[13:18:04] webninja: короче есть решения но они платные
[13:18:27] Typhon: смски кому?
[13:18:29] webninja: a1aggregator там можно рассылки делать. или smsdostup.ru
[13:18:32] webninja: да кому угодно
[13:18:38] Typhon: студенту?
[13:18:41] Typhon: что он прогулял? :)
[13:18:43] Typhon: или преподу?
[13:18:52] Typhon: так тот и так знает, кто был, а кто нет?
[13:18:55] webninja: ну ему решению нужно как вообще это делать )
[13:18:59] webninja: http://smsdostup.ru/
[13:19:20] webninja: http://smsdostup.ru/sms-delivery/
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[13:19:54] webninja: лям сразу ебаш ваще всем пробивай диапазоны. смс ченить типа Привет, это я! Срочно положи 500р на этот счет
[13:20:05] webninja: брр на этот номер
[13:21:15] webninja: — Высокая скорость отправки сообщений (до 100 SMS в секунду) ваще
[13:21:19] Typhon: webninja: очевидно, что для тупой и ненужной задачи даже решиня не нужны
[13:21:24] Typhon: *решения
[13:21:38] webninja: ну мало ли может ему универ грант даст на разработки
[13:21:44] webninja: системы такой
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[13:22:38] Typhon: :/
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[13:24:09] cutwater: ну или работать будет на кафедре код писать за еду
[13:24:14] cutwater: ну а чо тоже карьера
[13:24:17] cutwater: а потом преподом пойдет
[13:24:28] cutwater: и вырастит поколение таких же кодерастов
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[13:39:24] gf: ээ.. я что-то пропустил?
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[13:44:16] cutwater: gf: нет. все очень тихо и мирно
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[13:45:17] xa4a: смски отправлять родителям же!
[13:46:50] Typhon: xa4a: гг
[13:46:57] Typhon: дневник показывать
[13:47:10] cutwater: :-D
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[13:47:23] cutwater: бред это
[13:47:55] Magister Yoda: согласен. бредовая идея была.
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[13:51:13] cutwater: gf: лучше ознакомься с творчеством наших велосипедистов
[13:51:15] cutwater: http://www.govnokod.ru/6191
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[14:01:31] gf: cutwater: я не могу понять почему велосипед это всегда плохо..?
[14:01:42] cutwater: gf: хм.. ты С++ вообще знаешь?
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[14:02:02] gf: самый лучший способ осознать как работает та или иная сущность это создать ее..
[14:02:10] cutwater: gf: ой нифига подобного
[14:02:23] gf: cutwater нет, только python, да и то слабенько.. :)
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[14:02:26] cutwater: ты пройдешь путь тех кто создал до тебя... при чем не всегда правильно
[14:02:42] cutwater: поэтому прежде чем что-то создавать надо разобраться в том что создали до тебя к примеру.
[14:03:01] cutwater: gf: тогда тебе вряд ли понять почему в том коде на писан ГЛОБАЛЬЫЙ ВЫРВИГЛАЗНЫЙ УЖАС
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[14:03:26] cutwater: gf: такое даже Magister Yoda в бреду не напишет
[14:03:38] gf: cutwater мне пора, но мы продолжим.. :)
[14:03:43] cutwater: ок
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[15:53:15] Darth Лис: утранах!
[15:53:33] Darth Лис: кто нибудь юзает solr?
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[16:42:16] xa4a: немного
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[16:52:51] Darth Лис: xa4a: и как? какие есть минусы?
[16:53:26] xa4a: эм..
[16:53:27] xa4a: ищет
[16:53:52] xa4a: из того, на что натыкался - вайлдаркды не умеет с начала строки
[16:54:05] xa4a: тоесть нельзя искать *уй, например
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[16:54:40] xa4a: в остальном, вроде, ок всё
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[16:54:45] xa4a: ищет, чо
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[16:55:55] Darth Лис: а данных в индексе много?
[16:59:07] xa4a: нет. несколь тыщ документов
[16:59:12] xa4a: *несколько
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никто не сталкивался при деплое с таким?
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[18:39:29] xa4a: webninja: очевидно же
[18:39:31] xa4a: в смысле
[18:39:36] xa4a: джанга же всё написала тебе
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[18:42:34] webninja: тэкс
[18:42:46] webninja: а почему темплэйт синтакс эррор?
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[18:45:09] webninja: я думаю нужно доки почитать про деплой
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[18:51:22] xa4a: я думаю, нужно проверить модуль urls на наличие urlpatterns в нём
[18:51:24] gigimon: webninja: {% url %} юзашеь?
[18:51:30] webninja: lf
[18:51:31] webninja: да
[18:51:42] gigimon: а если уберешь, ошибки нет, да?
[18:51:48] webninja: ну типа того )
[18:51:52] webninja: а откуда ты знаешь?
[18:51:55] gigimon: значит не так url применяешь)
[18:52:00] webninja: ах блин
[18:52:05] gigimon: аргументы или имя не так передаешь
[18:52:18] webninja: url(r'^home/$', home_view, name='home-view'),
[18:52:43] webninja: <li><a href="{% url home-view %}">Home</a></li>
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[18:52:56] xa4a: проблема не в том, как юзаешь
[18:53:03] Typhon: The included urlconf urls doesn't have any patterns in it
[18:53:05] Typhon: The included urlconf urls doesn't have any patterns in it
[18:53:08] xa4a: написано же ImproperlyConfigured
[18:53:11] Typhon: webninja, gigimon ^^^^^
[18:53:54] webninja: вы говорите загадками )
[18:53:57] gigimon: %)
[18:54:07] gigimon: ну где-то в этом месте...
[18:54:17] gigimon: :)
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[18:55:55] xa4a: webninja: у тебя в сеттингсах не правильно вписан roоt-urlconf, может быть
[18:55:56] webninja: велл. короче я хочу использовать django-tracking локально окей. вроде работает. в базу пишет, я рад. переношу на сервер. и такая ошибка.
[18:56:22] webninja: ROOT_URLCONF = 'urls'
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[19:05:09] xa4a: у тебя, может, проблемы с sys.path
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[19:08:38] webninja: может щаз посмотрю что к чему
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[19:17:21] webninja: ааа локализовал ошибку
[19:17:58] webninja: короче дело было так )
[19:18:59] webninja: все шло неплохо но тут интрепретатор зашел сюда /apps/control/views/stats.py", и в строчке 9, увидел ЭТО
from tracking.middleware import VisitorTrackingMiddleware as VisitorsTracking
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[19:19:54] webninja: он естественно пошел посмотреть че там за миддлварь apps/tracking/__init__.py", но на 26 строке потерпел полное фиаско prefixes.append(reverse('tracking-refresh-active-users'))

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[19:52:18] webninja: сделал короче. хм. вообщем я этот django-tracking засунул в папку app/ как приложение (с прицелом на допиливание)
[19:52:57] webninja: там в файле urls.py блыо типа from tracking import .... поменял на from app.tracking и все заработало
[19:53:39] webninja: странно почему же локально работает?
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