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[08:48:35] kiR: Кто юзал haystack, подскажите, поиск производится толко по полю модели с (document=true) ?
И если есть лучшая альтенатива то какая.
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[09:03:34] _lorien: /me всех спалил
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[09:33:05] slav0nic: document=True по моему минимальное требование для индексации, типа если чёт есть в этом поле, то индексируется
[09:33:14] slav0nic: а ваще они там заипали всё менять)
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[11:18:33] Trec: Парни, подскажите, хотя бы в какую сторону копать, какие логи смотреть. Сайт постоянно падает, ошибка 504, приходится постоянно перезагружать на сервере sudo -u www-data ./spawn.sh restart. Только после этого сайт поднимается но не на долго. просматриваю процесы, всё запущено, на сервере есть ещё оператива и проца хватает, что может быть?
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[11:24:11] xa4a: 504 gateway timeout
[11:24:22] xa4a: значит, что бекенд не отвечают серверу в отведёное ему время
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[11:25:26] xa4a: может быть какое-то сетевое I/O блокирует
[11:25:34] xa4a: или вечный цикл
[11:25:43] xa4a: в бекенде
[11:25:55] Trec: да всё может, найти бы его
[11:26:04] Trec: неее, понять бы сначало
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[11:29:07] xa4a: телепаты сегодня в отпуске
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[11:30:10] Tony: смотри логи ответов от wsgi
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[11:30:28] Trec: Tony: спасибо
[11:30:59] Trec: xa4a: вот телепатов реально не хватает
[11:31:43] xa4a: хорошо, что есть консультанты, которые за некоторое вознаграждение готовы решить все твои проблемы
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[11:33:35] cutwater: утра
[11:34:18] Trec: xa4a: Доступ зависит не от меня, кроме что реально телепат сможет разобратся
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[11:34:59] xa4a: не по-русски как-то выразился
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[11:36:14] Trec: xa4a: бывает, не буду отнимать время, спасибо за предположения по моему вопросу
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[11:42:35] _lorien: Trec: запусти сайт на отдельном порту в debug-режиме, затем лазай по сайт и смотри, какие ошибки в консоль повалятся
[11:42:45] _lorien: ещё можешь django-sentry поставить
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[11:44:47] Trec: _lorien: в debug-режиме пробовал, таже страница выпадает что и в рабочем режиме, даже при том что режим включён
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[11:45:24] _lorien: как так? там уже не может быть 504 ошибки, просто ответа не можешь доджаться?
[11:45:42] _lorien: я тебе говорю запустить в дебаговом сервере
[11:45:50] _lorien: ./manage runserver 0.0.0.0:9999
[11:46:10] _lorien: хотя вряд ли ты что там увидишь :) Ну если ты знаешь, какая страница тупит, то смотри, что ты там делаешь такого страшного
[11:46:56] _lorien: хех, щас воткну свой xauth на pep8 заместо хрюнделёвского, посмотрим, как ботать будет
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[11:47:19] Trec: именно, но разработчики постовили при всех ошибказ 50х вываливать одну и туже страницу, она всегда и вываливатется, а делать ничего и не приходится, сайт постоянно падает при просто попытке его открыть
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[11:49:35] _lorien: Я не понял, у тебя 500 страница дебаговая джанги вываливается или ты ответа не можешь дождаться, если первое, то там же всё написано :)
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[11:53:01] Trec: _lorien: Если бы дебаговая вываливалась, то вопросов бы не возникло, а так вываливатеся собственная созданная страница при любой ошибке с кодом 50х но точно не по ошибке 404 и 500, на них другие страницы предусмотрены, собсвенно код ошибки я тоже не знаю.
[11:54:36] xa4a: очевидно, нужно найти, где регистрируется этот хендлер 50х и отрегистрировать его, чтобы увидеть реальную картину
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[11:55:24] xa4a: или это вполне может быть мидлварь, которая try: view(*args, **kwargs); except: show_error_page()
[11:55:41] xa4a: тогда вместо show_error_page() вписать raise просто
[11:56:27] Trec: угу, понял, щас буду искать где вываливают эту страницу
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[12:32:01] _lorien: да чё там искать ищешь строку в сорцах, которая написана на этой странице, потом ищешь сорцы где этот шаблон используется
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[12:50:43] Trec: не так то просто оказалось, он в исходниках нигде не прописан
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[12:53:45] xa4a: это вряд ли
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[12:55:01] _lorien: т.е. текст генерится из астрала?
[12:55:10] Trec: ну поиск не дал результатов и локально и на сервере, может в настройках как-то подсовывают,
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[12:57:28] _lorien: как ты искал?
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[12:58:19] Trec: по всем файлам на сервере, на наличие названия файла в тексте
[12:58:30] Trec: астрал не исключение
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[12:58:54] _lorien: не понял, какого файла... ты нашёл файл, в котором лежит текст твоей 500 ошибки?
[12:59:10] _lorien: * твоей 50* страницы
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[13:00:03] Trec: файл называется 50x.html он же где-то должен вызываться, вот по этому названию я и искал, но его нигде нет
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[13:00:53] _lorien: неправильно
[13:00:58] _lorien: покажи скриншот твоей ошибки
[13:01:18] Trec: и как на зло, запустил в дэбаг режиме, так ни продакшен, ни тестовый не падает
[13:01:45] deepwalker: кто в курсе - что шустрее будет, чтобы записывать ключики nginx-у в мемкеш, или чтобы он сам кешил своими средствами?
[13:02:00] _lorien: deepwalker: на так проведи тест :)
[13:02:06] deepwalker: нууу : )
[13:02:12] deepwalker: придется
[13:02:17] _lorien: или ты поверишь первому же ответу?
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[13:02:48] deepwalker: просто вариант с мемкешом мне нравится по одной причине - вот пришло сто запросов на один ключ, его нет. Все сто запросов пошли в бекенд
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[13:03:12] deepwalker: _lorien, ну смотря кто скажет :) хотя все равно проверю наверное
[13:03:41] deepwalker: я вот надеюсь что вариант со ста однотипными запросами nginx сам как то разрулит
[13:04:07] _lorien: http://loginza.ru/openid-catalog прикольные скриншоты сайтов :)
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[13:05:43] Trec: _lorien: скрин ошибки http://clip2net.com/clip/m70801/1302775523-clip-4kb.png
[13:07:02] _lorien: http://loginza.ru/api-overview чё-то не врублюсь, нафиг этот сайт нужен, зачем дополнительный слой. Его прикрутить так же сложно, как openid прикрутить, разве нет?
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[13:07:44] _lorien: Trec: теперь бери grep и запускай в корне проекта команду grep -ri "Мы обновляем сайт" *
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[13:08:06] _lorien: Так ты найдёшь файл с этой страницей, далее делай grep по названию файла, так найдёшь код, который использует этот файл.
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[13:08:44] _lorien: Как вариант можно прочитать документацию, где описано, как изменяется обработчик 500 ошибок в джанге. Ты читал?
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[13:10:17] Ляпатяпа: Trec, у тебя nginx?
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[13:10:28] Trec: файл с это ошибой я знаю, яж говорю это файл 50x.html, далее я брал название этого файла и искал по всему проекту, но ничего не находил. Единственное различие вы grep советуете, а я в mc искал.
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[13:10:57] Trec: Ляпатяпа: ага
[13:11:25] _lorien: ладно, тогда удали его :)
[13:11:46] _lorien: и посмотри что получится
[13:11:49] Ляпатяпа: смотри, nginx делает запрос на джангу, джанго дохера времени чото думает, nginx не дожидается и кидает ошибку
[13:11:54] Ляпатяпа: я так думаю
[13:12:06] _lorien: ну я так понял он и в дебаг режиме это получает
[13:12:19] Ляпатяпа: смотри access.log, там должен быть url страницы с ошибкой
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[13:22:51] Trec: Ляпатяпа: там куча ссылок на разные страницы, а также на еще больше фоток с сервера
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[13:23:30] Ляпатяпа: фотки с 504 отдаются?
[13:23:48] deepwalker: в общем nginx без мемкеша как-то бодрее отдает
[13:24:03] deepwalker: и стабильнее
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[13:26:42] Trec: Ляпатяпа: не 504 не видно ни где.
[13:26:55] Ляпатяпа: а в error.log?
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[13:36:13] Ляпатяпа: в access.log пробовал искать 504?
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[14:27:36] Darth Лис: xa4a: если конфиг хранить в py файле, то как его импортировать?
я имею ввиду у меня есть пакет который ставиться на сервера и этому пакету надо иметь конфиг. Т.е. на сервере только этот пакет + где-то надо конфиг к нему тащить
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[14:59:45] xa4a: кроме как прописать путь к конфигу в PYTHONPATH?
[15:00:12] xa4a: можно, например, создать симлик на конфиг уже в PYTHONPATH, например в пакете симлинк на /etc/mypkg_settings.py
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[15:00:28] xa4a: или import imp
[15:00:33] xa4a: Darth Лис: ^
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[16:06:50] xa4a: imp.load_source(name, pathname[, file])¶ <http://docs.python.org/library/imp.html#imp.load_source>
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[16:09:00] Typhon: py - файлы для конфигов уже не модно ж
[16:09:35] mishok13: why not?
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[16:11:29] mishok13: во-во
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[16:11:58] Typhon: mishok13: ну мода такая в последнее время, обсуждения недавно были на всяким хабрах и чятиках
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[16:12:05] Typhon: (я не вижу ничего плохого, btw)
[16:12:37] Typhon: но ругают за то, что произвольный код можно фигачить, сайд эффекты, олег будет не доволен, например
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[16:14:53] mishok13: ну еще поддержка других яп страдает, да
[16:15:28] mishok13: а если какой-то хуй вписал в конфиг произвольный код, то у тебя явно большие проблемы
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[16:15:36] mishok13: и они больше в человеке заключаются
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[16:17:22] Typhon: вот и я, кажется, говорил, что проще чуваку ёбнуть, чем на yaml конфиги переписывать :)
[16:17:47] mishok13: ооо, не, yaml нахуй-нахуй
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[16:17:54] mishok13: он прекрасен, конечно, но нахуйнахуй
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[16:19:13] mishok13: """This implementation is available under the user's choice of two licenses; the 2-clause BSD license, and an unusual "Death and Repudiation" license which restricts its use to dead people only."""
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[17:12:34] RaD: re all
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[17:12:53] RaD: камрады, кто осилил статику в django 1.3?
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[17:13:16] RaD: http://dpaste.com/531957/ - очень волнуют 10 и 11 строчки, че за нах не могу осознать
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[17:22:53] _lorien: хз как это всё работает, но попробуй STATIC_ROOT = rel('')
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[17:24:18] RaD: пробовал, налетаю на проблему со сборщиком статики, пересекаются каталоги
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[17:27:46] RaD: нашел решение, но кривое
[17:28:28] _lorien: а в чём там вообще суть, там файлы копируются или что?
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[17:29:07] RaD: http://dpaste.com/531968/
[17:29:22] RaD: да, копируются, но только при деплое, девсервер типа разгребается сам
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[17:33:41] gigimon: _lorien: зачем этот фреймворк не особо понятно, поидее удобно когда есть десяток команд, которые делают разные апликухи и складывают статику в каталог с аппликухой
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[17:33:45] gigimon: больше решения я не нашел
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[17:39:25] xa4a: как вы представляете себе раздавать статику веб-сервером, если она лежит в каталогах с апликухами?
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[17:42:15] RaD: xa4a: gigimon про команды сказал, которые всё собирают в один каталог
[17:42:15] gigimon: спроси у приложения встроенное в джангу staticfiles
[17:42:30] gigimon: оно именно это и делает но во время разработки
[17:42:39] maxp: hi all
[17:42:41] gigimon: ну да, и дает команду собрать все в 1 каталог
[17:43:05] maxp: люди, а это только у меня такое ощущение, что в питончике все очень хреново с обработкой изображений?
[17:43:38] xa4a: RaD: вот в джангу и встроили такую команду. чтобы была родная, и каждый свой велосипед не городил, видимо
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[17:43:40] gigimon: чего ты так
[17:43:46] xa4a: maxp: конкретнее
[17:43:48] gigimon: maxp: почему
[17:44:08] maxp: а чем у нас в нем картинки можно поресайзить, например?
[17:44:15] RaD: xa4a: там проблема не в команде, а в том как она биндит твои каталоги
[17:44:15] gigimon: кстати, никто не юзал imagemagick или graphicmagick из питона?
[17:44:21] maxp: ну желательно не тупым ресэмплингом
[17:44:23] gigimon: maxp: поресайзить хоть пилом
[17:44:25] maxp: во-во
[17:44:34] RaD: я например, привык в корне проекта иметь static, в котором лежат js, css, pics и так далее
[17:44:38] maxp: я как раз после впечатлений от pythonmagick
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[17:45:02] gigimon: ну, я юзаю imagemagick через Сишные биндинги
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[17:45:06] gigimon: как они правильно овутся?
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[17:45:15] maxp: эта хрень мне поресайзила фотку 200х150 на 64 кил размером!!!
[17:45:16] gigimon: нифига не питоно стиль получается
[17:45:34] xa4a: ох уж этот питон!!111 поресайзил фотку 200х150 на 64 кил размером
[17:45:47] gigimon: кхм
[17:45:51] maxp: еще выяснил вдруг, что в убунтячьих байндингах посему-то у Image нет метода resize
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[17:46:07] maxp: вот все остальные есть, а resize нету
[17:46:07] gigimon: maxp: а причем тут питон?
[17:46:16] Darth Лис: maxp: imagemagic комманду запкскай
[17:46:24] RaD: ну он же из питона зовёт :)
[17:46:29] maxp: да-да
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[17:46:34] gigimon: значит виноват питон, ок
[17:46:37] maxp: мы же не ищем легких путей
[17:46:57] maxp: я начитался про вызов convert из командлайна
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[17:47:16] Darth Лис: и что? что-то не так с ним?
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[17:47:23] maxp: и решил, что это для пхпшников, а я как сильно умный сделаю через с-байндинги
[17:47:40] maxp: бесценный опыт наработал, конечно
[17:47:46] Darth Лис: кстати
[17:48:06] Darth Лис: сделал бы кто нибудь обёртку для imagemagic CLI
[17:48:12] maxp: но вывод однозначный - надо было не выпендриваться, а сделать как рекомендуют
[17:48:26] gigimon: Darth Лис: imagemagick разве не рип?
[17:48:35] Darth Лис: сам по себе нет
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[17:48:44] Darth Лис: а вот всякие биндинги к нему, весьма вероятно
[17:48:49] maxp: да нет
[17:48:57] Darth Лис: Rmagic (рубёвски) по крайней мере точно rip
[17:48:59] gigimon: есть к нему приличный биндинг на питоне?
[17:49:05] Darth Лис: да и говном он был, изначально
[17:49:10] gigimon: :D
[17:49:12] maxp: вот пожалуйста -
[17:49:15] Darth Лис: жрал рам совершенно напрасно и вообще
[17:49:26] maxp: http://www.imagemagick.org/download/python/
[17:49:38] maxp: и понимаете, это лучшее, что есть
[17:49:52] gigimon: оо
[17:49:53] gigimon: обновили
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[17:50:15] maxp: опять же на простой бубунте оно не собралось с первого захода
[17:50:19] gigimon: год назад там было пусто
[17:50:33] maxp: в Gentoo конечно все получше, но тем не менее.
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[17:51:08] Darth Лис: maxp: поэтому и говорю. юзай из CLI
[17:51:13] maxp: скажите, а PIL сейчас все так же не умеет содзавать имиджи из stream ?
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[17:51:38] maxp: Darth Лис: так pythonmagick не оно разьве?
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[17:52:27] gigimon: хм
[17:52:31] gigimon: в pip PythonMagick - Wrapper around GraphicsMagick
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[17:54:07] Darth Лис: PythonMagick is a boost.python (requires Python 2.2) based wrapper around GraphicsMagick(http://www.graphicsmagick.org). It wraps the C++ API of GraphicsMagick, which is much more pythonic that the original C API.
[17:54:11] Darth Лис: нет, не оно
[17:54:18] Darth Лис: это биндинги
[17:54:36] Darth Лис: а я говорю о чём-то а-ля http://rubydoc.info/gems/mini_magick/3.2/frames
[17:54:39] maxp: а в чем принципиальная разница с CLI ?
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[17:55:05] maxp: или что такое тогда CLI?
[17:55:18] Darth Лис: ComandLineInterface конечно же
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[17:56:02] Darth Лис: сабпроцессы запускай да и ок
[17:56:22] maxp: почему-то мне в первую очередь на ум приходит common langiage interface :)
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[17:57:12] Darth Лис: maxp: глянь на ссылку про mini_magick, на питоне такое же воспроизвести будет легко
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[17:57:17] Darth Лис: или даже попробуй поищи
[17:57:24] Darth Лис: по логике уже должно быть
[17:57:55] maxp: так pythonmagick примерно такой и есть
[17:58:11] maxp: только нифига не python style
[17:58:20] gigimon: ctypes обертка поидее
[17:58:32] gigimon: для graphickmagic пилят питон style обертку
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[17:59:00] maxp: больше всего меня разозлило, что блять, на сервере у объекта Image не оказалось метода resize()
[17:59:13] maxp: там версия 0.9.1
[17:59:17] maxp: у меня тут 0.9.5
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[18:00:03] maxp: у объекта Image нет метода get_data
[18:00:05] maxp: надо
[18:00:13] maxp: blob = Blob()
[18:00:17] maxp: img.write(blob)
[18:00:22] maxp: blob.data
[18:00:33] maxp: yahoo.eu
[18:00:45] gigimon: обнови на сервере
[18:00:51] _lorien: maxp: поставь на сервере новую версию )
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[18:01:18] maxp: как бы это сказать, я не сторонник иметь bleeding age на серверах
[18:01:29] maxp: и тем более не сторонник ставить там что-то руками
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[18:02:00] maxp: тем более, что просто скачать дистр и configure make make install
[18:02:09] maxp: там не нашло питона!
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[18:02:20] maxp: в смысле configure не нашло
[18:02:45] maxp: я понимаю, что там всекий libtool и boost некоторые хотят
[18:03:10] maxp: но за последние пол года это, блин, первый пакет, которые не собрался с пол пинка
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[18:05:34] _lorien: а зачем что-то собирать руками, скачал какой-нить deb/rpm пакет и усё :)
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[18:06:57] maxp: вот тут мне не подходит слово "какой-нибудь"
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[18:07:25] maxp: по-хорошему, все должно быть в дистрибуте
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[18:07:47] maxp: на худой конец в ланчпаде
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[18:08:45] maxp: иначе решение получается неотчуждаемым
[18:09:17] maxp: ого! я полетел...!!
[18:09:20] maxp: извините, э
[18:09:24] maxp: это не про питон :)
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[18:10:18] maxp: это тут - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njayOtagTpI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN8S-kB0VcE
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[18:11:33] _lorien: ну какой-нибудь пакет из debian stable/centos stable, etc я имел в виду
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[18:12:13] maxp: а никто случайно не в курсе, обычный convert умеет читать картинку из stdin и писать в stdout?
[18:13:29] maxp: как-то в наш век победившего повсеместно fp не кузяво вычитывать все файло из стрима, писать на диск, а потом вычитывать резальтат обратно
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[18:13:59] Darth Лис: maxp: по крайней мере в man-е про это ничего нет
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[18:14:26] maxp: вот и я думаю, плохо читал или действительно нет
[18:14:42] gigimon: StringIO?
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[18:15:12] gigimon: я так и делаю, urllib качает картинку, сует в stringio и из него пил уменьшает
[18:15:18] Darth Лис: maxp: http://www.imagemagick.org/script/command-line-processing.php
[18:15:21] Darth Лис: а вот тут есть
[18:15:36] Darth Лис: stringio ?!
[18:15:47] Darth Лис: а если тебе гигабайтная картинка попадётся?
[18:16:05] Darth Лис: или это вовсе не картинка но с расширением .jpg
[18:16:19] maxp: хе
[18:16:25] gigimon: Darth Лис: ну))
[18:16:28] maxp: а видимо работает-таки
[18:16:32] gigimon: у меня не предполагается такое
[18:16:32] maxp: convert 1.jpg -
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[18:17:01] maxp: cat 1.jpg | convert - - > 2.jpg
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[18:18:27] maxp: StringIO этот тот же буфер, но с фалойвыми методами
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[18:18:45] Darth Лис: да, но держит-то данные он прямо в памяти
[18:18:49] maxp: идея потоковой обработки в том, что она не ждет того, чего не надо ждать
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[18:21:11] Darth Лис: maxp: короче пиши питонскую версию mini_magick, все будут очень рады :)
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[18:21:49] maxp: есть какое-то ощущение, что рады не будут
[18:21:57] maxp: я и сам не буду, главное
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[18:22:22] Darth Лис: будем-будем, если не накосячишь в коде :)
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[18:26:59] maxp: mini_Magic
[18:27:05] maxp: сильно простенький какой-то
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[18:27:55] maxp: а угрохать остаток жизни на обертывание вот этого
[18:27:56] maxp: >>> from PythonMagick import Image
>>> len(dir(Image))
211

[18:28:04] maxp: что-то не хочется :)
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[18:29:02] Darth Лис: начни с метода ресайз
[18:29:48] Typhon: напиши на хаскеле кодогенератор ^_^
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[18:30:52] maxp: Хаскель для меня видимо так и останется непостижимым :)
[18:31:09] maxp: вот не прёт от него и все.
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[18:31:41] Darth Лис: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YL3G-Q6L3-w
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[18:31:48] maxp: Darth Лис: там как раз с одного метода начать нельзя
[18:31:55] maxp: надо идеологию красивую
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[18:32:20] Darth Лис: maxp: тебе что надо? ресайзить! это надо в 90% случаев
[18:32:24] Darth Лис: вот и ресайзи
[18:32:48] maxp: ага, только надо бы еще и фильтрик выставлять правильный
[18:33:04] maxp: собственно resize от scale этим и отличается
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[18:33:59] maxp: в общем, эксперимент завершился успешно, оно работает, но вывод такой, что вытыкиваться не надо, а надо юзать сепарейт процесс
[18:34:09] maxp: и пайпить ему в стдин
[18:34:29] maxp: кстати, для Питона отдельный процесс только полезен будет
[18:34:41] Darth Лис: напиши что б это заработало :)
image = Image.open("input.jpg")
image.resize "100x100"
image.write "output.jpg"
[18:34:58] maxp: это есть прямо в PythonMagick
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[18:35:17] maxp: вот почти дословно, только со скобочками
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[18:38:49] Darth Лис: maxp: я имею ввиду что бы оно комманду запускало, а не к API тыкалось в Сишный биндинг
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[18:41:47] maxp: чем-то мне это отдаленно напоминает построение Query в Django
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[18:43:05] maxp: прикольно, конечно, забубенить этакий папйлайн,
[18:43:09] maxp: только вот не понятно зачем
[18:43:45] maxp: по сути если моделировать опции ком.строки методами Питона
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[18:43:53] maxp: то можно почти так же сделать список
[18:44:31] maxp: ['convert', '-resize 100x100', '-unsharpmask 1x1', 'output.jpg']
[18:44:35] maxp: и сказать ему exec
[18:45:03] Darth Лис: угу
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[18:45:11] Darth Лис: но можно красивых методов налепить :)
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[18:45:25] maxp: а вот лучше скажите, уважаемые, вот к примеру есть mongodb коллекция
[18:46:05] maxp: там валяются объектики типа {_id:123123123, a:"qweqweqwe", b:.... , c:[ {...}, {...}, {...}] }
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[18:47:04] maxp: как бы так красивенько придумать, чтобы не совсем тривиальные объектики, из которых состоит список c
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[18:47:43] maxp: при чтении сами собой превращались в какие-нибудь питонячьи объектики или namedtuple() на худой конец
[18:47:59] maxp: этакий фрагментарный ORM
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[18:48:43] maxp: ну и чтобы они обратно тоже сохранялись аналогично.
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[19:05:15] wiz: а в алфавите есть буквы?
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[19:10:15] maxp: сюдя по названию скорее всего есть
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[19:10:29] maxp: вот из названия mongokit такое заключить нельзя
[19:10:43] maxp: еще интересно, почему у них там anyjson?
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[19:31:02] wiz: потому что разные люди ставят разные json-ы
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[22:56:57] darkillusion: как можно в питоне узнать какая функция вызвала другую функцию, например есть функция func_A и func_B которые вызывают функцию func_main. как в func_main узнать кто вызвал?
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[23:00:25] Typhon: darkillusion, http://paste.in.ua/2139/
[23:00:37] Typhon: как начало, дальше -- доки по inspect и traceback
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[23:01:07] darkillusion: о, спасибо
[23:01:17] Typhon: (там из-за idle всякая какашка сначала, смотри в конец вывода)
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