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[10:05:40] cutwater: утро всем
[10:05:53] cutwater: _lorien: а не подскажешь как сделать такую штуку как в flatland только без "копирования классов"
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[10:10:12] xa4a: cutwater: ты смотрел уже wtforms?
[10:10:23] cutwater: xa4a: смотрел
[10:10:32] cutwater: правда у себя в поректе все равно использую свой велосипед
[10:10:47] cutwater: так как там много не нужно а наши не хотят плодить зависимости.
[10:11:09] cutwater: xa4a: но мне просто любопытен стал flatland как таковой и как он сделан. Ты с ним сталкивался?
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[10:12:23] webninja: !g wftorms
[10:12:33] webninja: а что за флатланд?
[10:13:49] xa4a: не сталкивался
[10:16:40] webninja: ого прикольно wtforms
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[10:16:51] webninja: !g flatland
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[10:22:58] webninja: фтформс как-то получше флэтлэнда на первый взгляд
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[10:27:39] cutwater: http://discorporate.us/projects/flatland/
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[10:28:11] cutwater: webninja: WTForms кстати одно время меня очень сильно разочаровали. непомню правда уже почему... что-то было связаное с SQLalchemy и сваргой.
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[10:29:35] cutwater: в принципе мне для моей примитивной задачи хватает и моего велосипеда. однако flatland именно по построению модели для валидации данных как-то поудобней будет. мое имхо.
[10:29:57] cutwater: с той точки зрения, что не нужно описывать 100500 классов для каждого уровня вложенности
[10:30:06] cutwater: если я правильно понял принцип FormField
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[10:32:06] webninja: у меня тоже свой велик )
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[10:32:35] webninja: вообще считаю что нужно стараться поменьше зависимостей создавать разных
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[10:34:00] xa4a: вы, похоже, не юзаете virtualenv+pip просто
[10:34:08] cutwater: юзаем
[10:34:14] cutwater: но есть же кастомеры
[10:34:30] cutwater: xa4a: я вот например после этого проекта начал люто ненавидеть django-piston
[10:34:58] xa4a: cutwater: кастомеры? а что с ними?
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[10:35:33] cutwater: ну собстна у нас не любят плодить лишние зависимости, кроме тех которые нам так или иначе навязали наши манагеры.
[10:36:33] xa4a: а, у вас оплата за строки кода? :)
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[10:36:51] cutwater: просто вот такая мулька
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[10:37:24] cutwater: и да насколько мне известно у нас (кроме меня на девелоперской машине) не осилили virtualenv и pip
[10:38:05] xa4a: нуэ
[10:38:09] xa4a: расскажи им!
[10:38:37] cutwater: ладно разговор щас не об этом
[10:39:40] cutwater: xa4a: мне вот идеология flatland понравилась. именно не для форм а для структур данных по сути. вот только не нравится очень клонирование класссов и как-то я за эту идею зацепился, не знаю как можно сделать так же красиво но по другому.
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[10:40:53] xa4a: какая идеология и какое клонирование?
[10:41:01] xa4a: я с flatland не работал. сейчас только смотрю доку
[10:41:30] cutwater: ну к примеру

Integer.named("foo") создает клон класса Integer с переопределенным полем name
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[10:42:19] xa4a: hm.. m'kay
[10:42:35] cutwater: таким образом класс представляет собой схему валидации
[10:42:49] cutwater: объект класса - данные + правила валидации.
[10:43:28] cutwater: xa4a: ну и вот собственно вместо написания своего класса формы они делают клоны собственных классов с переопределенными атрибутами. как-то так
[10:44:56] xa4a: может быть это круто… окинул взглядом доку - не привычно
[10:45:10] xa4a: втформы - похожи на джанговские родные, но они простые как пробки
[10:45:33] xa4a: в них кода мало, но он делает всё, что надо)
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[10:54:34] wiz_: {% for payment in roll.payments + roll.payment_archive %}fuck yeah{% endfor %}
[10:56:17] webninja: xa4a: вы, похоже, не юзаете virtualenv+pip просто << да, виртуал енв не юзаю =(
[10:56:29] wiz_: webninja, начинай уже
[10:56:38] webninja: да надо
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[10:56:55] wiz_: без него вообще не запускай ничего
[10:57:02] webninja: щаз сайт первый делаю кастомерам ) не зря же я пятон учил.
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[10:58:22] webninja: чето хотел спросить
[10:58:36] webninja: только сформулировать не могу
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[10:59:35] webninja: как дев. сервер кто делает? я имею в виду можно же по идее настроить локально все чтобы работало эти mod_wsgi апачи.
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[11:00:45] cutwater: зачем?
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[11:01:28] wiz_: runserver и в бой
[11:01:51] cutwater: webninja: ./manage.py runserver
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[11:01:59] cutwater: ./manage.py runcpserver если runserver не хватит
[11:01:59] wiz_: а лучше сразу ./manage.py test
[11:02:06] cutwater: хех
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[11:02:25] xa4a: bin/werkzeug
[11:03:04] wiz_: а как вот тестировать веб-хрень, которая одним концом сидит в readonly базе, а другим в стороннем веб-сервисе?
[11:03:34] cutwater: м.. mock?
[11:03:40] cutwater: правда я до сих пор ниасилил
[11:03:42] xa4a: /me нихрена не пноял, но наверно мокать
[11:03:50] cutwater: юниттесты на меня еще негативно влияют
[11:03:58] xa4a: cutwater: это нормально
[11:05:39] xa4a: rope кто-то юзает?
[11:05:46] xa4a: оно развивается?
[11:06:02] wiz_: мокать как-то стрёмно... получается, что проверяется в итоге чёрти-что, а не реальные условия
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[11:07:23] xa4a: а read-only база и сторонний веб-сервис мешают реальные условия проверять, кстати?
[11:08:14] wiz_: нет, просто не кошерно, что побочные эффекты будут
[11:08:34] wiz_: ну и в базе там тоже срач
[11:08:48] wiz_: а вручную глазами я уже устал проверять всё....
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[11:10:49] xa4a: нуэ.. test environment поднимать перед тестами, а после тестов убивать?
[11:11:14] xa4a: тоесть тестовые сущности убивать после тестов, например
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[11:22:09] wiz_: на стороннем сервисе такого нет
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[11:22:41] cutwater: ну а сторонний сервис можно мокать
[11:22:44] wiz_: можно конечно мокать и записывать все регрессии, но это уже больше liability чем asset
[11:23:52] wiz_: базу тоже придётся мокать потому что в неё нельзя писать
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[11:33:33] xa4a: в базу нельзя писать вообще, или только тестам?
[11:33:50] xa4a: вообще=функциональность такая, без записи в базу
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[12:11:45] xa4a: wiz: зачем мокать базу, если в неё писать не надо?
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[12:16:55] wiz: xa4a, потому что fixtures надо
[12:17:04] wiz: а в базе там чад кутежа
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[12:17:51] xa4a: тестировать на другой тестовой testing.db
[12:18:03] xa4a: куда, например, копировать рабочую, если надо
[12:18:14] xa4a: если нет - фикстурами забивать
[12:18:28] xa4a: мнда. наверна это всё уже опробовано
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[12:24:37] wiz: ага. осталось только определить как по-быстрому поднимать тестовые бд в mssql
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[12:27:01] xa4a: поднимать тестовые бд в sqlite
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[12:29:26] Typhon: а на продакшне окажется, что 1) драйвер к мсскул глючный и падает в сегфолт 2) конструкуции, которые пользовали в скуле для скллайта, работают немного не так, или с другим перформансом в мсскуле
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[12:38:17] xa4a: это лучше, чем не тестировать ничего
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[13:01:30] wiz: да и руками каждый раз запускать шелл/браузер и проверять всё геморно
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[15:37:20] webninja: [root@breath conf]# /etc/init.d/httpd start
Starting httpd: [Thu Apr 28 15:54:06 2011] [warn] module wsgi_module is already loaded, skipping
[15:37:24] webninja: хммм
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[15:37:30] webninja: а как его релоаднуть?
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[15:39:20] Typhon: 1) это ворнинг 2) у тебя две строчки с LoadModule в конфигах — выкини одну
[15:41:44] webninja: одна вроде
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[15:41:47] webninja: я проверял
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[15:42:54] Typhon: как ты проверял? в httpd.conf? там же есть conf.d там скорее всего wsgi.conf лежит и второй раз грузить модуль
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[15:46:23] webninja: да
[15:46:31] webninja: сек проверю
[15:46:35] webninja: блин просто сервер не мой
[15:46:56] webninja: и тут походу намудрили мудрецы )
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[15:56:41] nmk: в подвале стоит?
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[15:59:14] gigimon: кто на маках, расскажите, чем картинки смотрите?
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[16:00:38] Typhon: preview
[16:00:43] gigimon: блин
[16:00:52] gigimon: она ж убога и не позволяет фотки поочереди листать колесиком
[16:00:54] nmk: я какую-то другую херню поставил
[16:00:57] nmk: только я забыл название
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[17:06:57] ds.tihonov is now дома! :)
[17:07:13] _lorien: http://lorien.name/static/pub/531aa1d238762d1b6b522ddc979efbf6.png чё-то не везёт мне с pycharm
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[17:08:28] xa4a: это такой минималистичный интерфейс
[17:09:09] xa4a: а я вот настроил снова ropevim и оно таки работает!
[17:09:32] xa4a: *и оно таки рефакторит!
[17:10:09] _lorien: а автодополнение у тебя как, через ctags?

[17:10:19] _lorien: или что там обычно юзается (у меня его вообще нет)
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[17:10:58] xa4a: до последнего времени юзал тоже то, что из коробки. которое по открытым окнам ищет
[17:11:19] xa4a: думаю сейчас и дополнение прикрутить от rope. оно тормознее, конечно, но информативнее
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[17:15:33] nmk: _lorien: а мне видно повезло с pycharm. не видел ни одного интерфейсного глюка, о которых все пишут. вообще тебе надо стиль сменить, вроде
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[17:20:15] slav0nic: эм, чё это гугл в чекауте пишет ПодЫтог?
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[17:21:50] slav0nic: хм, таки с Ы кошерней
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[17:22:55] Typhon: slav0nic: а как должен ? :)
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[17:23:17] slav0nic: как-то через и я чаще встречал
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[17:24:38] Typhon: итог, но подытог, правило замены есть
[17:24:56] Typhon: подыграть / подытожить
[17:25:05] Typhon: (больше не могу придумать слов %) )
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[17:32:29] nmk: безынтересныйф
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[17:34:36] Typhon: ну я уже погуглил чуть и вспомнил всякие эти (сначала мысль только к глаголам с "под-" тянулась ) :-)
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[18:44:51] Typhon: покажи! :-)
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[18:59:34] _lorien: http://www.brichmula.com/6.jpg у них оригинально вёрстка сделана, интересный подход
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[19:00:12] _lorien: ccылки через map тэг сделаны :D
[19:00:43] огыешсук: so 9x-ish
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[19:12:32] gigimon: кто чем рисует блок схемы?
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[19:15:21] cutwater: карандашом и бумагой
[19:15:36] gigimon: мне красиво, в диплом)
[19:15:53] cutwater: карандашом, бумагой, линейкой, циркулем =)
[19:15:57] xa4a: latex?
[19:16:09] cutwater: gigimon: visio, dia, etc.
[19:16:21] cutwater: xa4a: латех умеет блок-схемы?
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[19:16:32] xa4a: графы точно умеет
[19:16:39] xa4a: !g latex flow charts
[19:16:43] gigimon: хмм
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[19:16:55] gigimon: диа поставлю
[19:16:58] cutwater: xa4a: а у тебя есть сорцы на латехе
[19:17:00] gigimon: спс
[19:17:06] xa4a: cutwater: сорцы чего?
[19:17:12] cutwater: диплома например
[19:17:17] cutwater: xa4a: я латех сколько пытался ниасилил
[19:17:36] xa4a: cutwater: есть немного
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[19:17:59] nott: латех надо осиливать заранее :)
[19:18:00] xa4a: https://bitbucket.org/xa4a/diploma/src/fee7f19e182c/report/
[19:18:01] cutwater: точней проблемы были а) шревты б) сложные таблицы в) шревты г) ШРЕВГЫ ГОВНО
[19:18:13] xa4a: шрифты как-то сами заработали
[19:18:15] xa4a: но не сразу :)
[19:18:46] cutwater: под виндами / линухами?
[19:18:52] xa4a: под гентой
[19:18:58] xa4a: в маке ещё не пробовал собирать)
[19:19:00] cutwater: генту ниасилил
[19:19:07] cutwater: на мак денег жалко
[19:19:13] cutwater: я лучше зеркалку куплю
[19:19:32] xa4a: кстати, а если купить зеркалку, то фотки сами крутми станут?
[19:19:36] xa4a: или это ещё вопрос рук7
[19:20:02] cutwater: толсто же
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[19:20:17] Typhon: латех умеет всё
[19:20:19] Typhon: :)
[19:20:42] Typhon: cutwater: https://bitbucket.org/mishok13/presentations/src
[19:21:01] cutwater: ясно спс.
[19:21:06] Typhon: xa4a: под маком вообще всё сходу работает, ставишь мактех или как там его
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[19:24:14] xa4a: когда начинал латех осиливать - читал http://samolisov.blogspot.com/search/label/LaTeX
[19:24:28] xa4a: довольно доходчивый туториал
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[19:30:41] gigimon: dia под мак ось ужасно смотрится
[19:30:44] gigimon: но придется юзать
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[19:33:35] xa4a: dia везде ужасно выглядит, емнип
[19:34:35] xa4a: вон omnigraffle красиво выглядит http://www.omnigroup.com/products/omnigraffle/
[19:35:06] xa4a: (есть на т.ру)
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[19:36:32] gigimon: пойду и его скачаю
[19:36:39] gigimon: а то взглянуть на диа без слез нельзя
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[20:21:36] inpython: кто хочет обьяснить нубу про функции?)
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[20:22:46] gigimon: omnigraffe красивая клевая штука
[20:22:59] gigimon: все штуки, границы, рамки показывает
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