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[23:40:39] quasiyoke: А есть ли у нас 'continue LABEL' как в java?
[23:40:42] quasiyoke: Это нужно для вложенных циклов, дабы было понятно какой из циклов мы хотим continue
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[23:41:16] quasiyoke: ...в какой из них хотим передать управление
[23:41:55] wiz: а зачем тебе?
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[23:43:08] quasiyoke: Как зачем? Чтобы из внутреннего цикла перейти во внешний
[23:43:41] quasiyoke: Дополнительная переменная решит всё, ох.
[23:43:55] Typhon: тупой язык питон, ага!
[23:43:59] Typhon: не позволяет таких простых вещей %)
[23:44:03] Typhon: btw, кидай ексепшны
[23:44:17] Typhon: goto нет, но есть продвинутые goto ^_^
[23:44:42] wiz: quasiyoke, а зачем тебе вложеные циклы да так, что из одного надо другой прерывать?
[23:45:14] wiz: /me за много-много лет встретил один чтоль юз кейс и то...
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[23:46:03] Typhon: вообще, теоретически, на стэклес питоне можно реализовать континуации, а спомощью них -- делимцц
[23:46:14] Typhon: а с помощью делимцц -- любые операторы можно делать, как говорят
[23:46:17] quasiyoke: Ну нет, continue LABEL -- не goto.
[23:46:31] Typhon: осталось закинуться фенотропилом и читать олега ^_^
[23:46:33] quasiyoke: Да и goto, как вы знаете, не самая плохая вещь.
[23:46:45] wiz: quasiyoke, толсто
[23:46:45] Typhon: ну да, из циклов можно прыгать
[23:46:52] Typhon: я и говорю, питон -- говняный язык
[23:46:55] Typhon: то ли дело пхп
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[23:48:16] quasiyoke: Ок. Вот давайте напишем на пайтоне красиво алгоритмик.
[23:49:15] quasiyoke: чёрт. много писать буде
[23:49:24] quasiyoke: секунду
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[23:50:51] webninja: эээ можно break прервать итерацию
[23:51:20] webninja: можно while использовать
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[23:53:25] quasiyoke: семь строк кода можно сюда?
[23:53:48] quasiyoke: можно.
[23:53:53] quasiyoke: def foo():
for i in xrange(N):
for j in xrange(M):
if not is_ok(j): # is_ok пытается что-то сделать. Что-то, что может получаться лишь время от времени для разных значений
# передать управление во внешний цикл
pass
else:
return True
else:
return False
[23:55:31] wiz: break
[23:55:32] Typhon: и зачем здесь вложенные циклы? :-)
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[23:55:51] wiz: завершит текущий цикл и передаст управление во внешний
[23:55:58] quasiyoke: Да, фиговый пример.
[23:56:53] quasiyoke: Ну если брейкнуть выополнится некоторый код после вложенного цикла, так что дополнительная переменная?
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[23:57:37] quasiyoke: Вообще я видел доказательство теоремы о том, что не нужны ни доп. перем., ни готу
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[23:58:49] quasiyoke: Чёрт, просто ты, Typhon, какой-то задира сегодня. Я ещё вопрос особый, конечно, задал...
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[23:59:14] Typhon: да какой задира, видишь, там эмотиконы везде %)
[23:59:17] quasiyoke: ...уже давно всё сделал бы /как-то/
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[23:59:47] Typhon: по-моему, если тебе такая операции нужна, то ты делаешь что-то не так
[23:59:53] wiz: +1