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[00:15:51] nyakawaiidesu: приветствую)
[00:16:45] nyakawaiidesu: есть вопрос
[00:16:49] nyakawaiidesu: f=open('1.txt','r')
s=f.readlines()
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[00:17:24] nyakawaiidesu: почему s не будет считаться списком?
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for i in s:
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[00:20:27] Typhon: nyakawaiidesu, и с чего ты взял, что s "не будет считаться списком"?
[00:20:32] Typhon: readlines список и вернёт
[00:21:04] nyakawaiidesu: когда s=s.split('@')
[00:21:10] nyakawaiidesu: он ругается
[00:21:25] Typhon: а давно у списка есть .split? ;-)
[00:21:34] nyakawaiidesu: AttributeError: 'list' object has no attribute 'split'
[00:21:40] nyakawaiidesu: блин
[00:21:53] Typhon: :-) тебе прямо и сказали, что это список
[00:22:06] nyakawaiidesu: объясните тогда сплит
[00:22:08] nyakawaiidesu: ))
[00:22:18] nyakawaiidesu: блиин
[00:22:20] nyakawaiidesu: не список
[00:22:23] nyakawaiidesu: строка
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[00:23:10] nyakawaiidesu: s будет строкой в случае s=f.readlines()
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[00:24:20] Typhon: ну как же она будет строкой, если тебе написали, что это список?
[00:24:31] Typhon: !pydoc file.readlines
[00:24:40] Typhon: !pydoc readlines
[00:24:48] Typhon: http://docs.python.org/library/stdtypes.html?highlight=file.readlines#file.readlines
[00:24:51] Typhon: nyakawaiidesu, ^
[00:25:01] Typhon: vs. http://docs.python.org/library/stdtypes.html?highlight=file.readlines#file.read
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[00:38:00] nyakawaiidesu: а можно по русски?(
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[01:04:47] nyakawaiidesu: всем спасибо
[01:04:55] nyakawaiidesu: всем пока)
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[02:22:01] gigimon: подскажите, как реализовать такое. Есть класс Field, от него наследуются разные классы (типа DecimalField), надо как-то вести список всех наследованых от него классов, как такое сделать?
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[04:00:57] Tony: gigimon, чето про subclasses было
[04:01:06] Tony: а у кого тут по gae дохуя опыт?
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[08:00:32] unkier: Tony: чо там с gae ?
[08:01:26] Tony: unkier, channel api. работал?
[08:02:05] unkier: неа, недошел еще
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[08:04:21] unkier: Tony: а ты где это применяешь ?
[08:04:29] Tony: channel api?
[08:04:32] unkier: угу
[08:04:46] unkier: чатик, игра ?
[08:04:58] Tony: не. тут есть тупо сайт и некоторые динамические элементы.
[08:05:42] unkier: интерпрайз сайт или для развлекухи ?
[08:05:50] Tony: интерпрайз
[08:06:45] unkier: биллинг включен ? за лимиты вылазиш ?
[08:06:53] unkier: какое посещение ?
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[08:11:45] unkier: я ушел, отпиши плиз, сам в процессе создания "стартапа" и надумал делать на gae
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[08:12:27] Tony: unkier, включен. вылазием. у нас blobstore еще есть. оно включается только вместе с биллингом
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[08:19:46] _lorien: > надо как-то вести список всех наследованых от него классов, как такое сделать?
Может быть через метаклассы как-то можно сделать
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[10:50:25] wiz_: как в джанге-постгресе восстанавливаться после DatabaseError? transaction.rollback говорит, что is not on transaction management или как-то так.
[10:50:45] wiz_: по-идее надо с with transaction.чототам() делать, но как её откатить если будет exception?
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[10:53:01] _lorien: как-то так восстанавливаться: http://dumpz.org/55426/
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[10:53:44] _lorien: вообще в документации джанги же есть про это, именнно про ошибки транзакций в постгресе, почитай
[10:55:08] wiz_: там про savepoint
[10:55:19] wiz_: а не
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[11:00:29] wiz_: фигово, что сам запрос делает селект только и его коммитить не надо. а если роллбэкнуть, то может слететь всё, что до этого в запросе делалось. или нет?
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[11:05:21] _lorien: я не очень понял
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[11:05:56] _lorien: wiz_: попробуй это покурить http://thebuild.com/blog/2009/11/07/django-postgresql-and-transaction-management/
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[11:31:02] wiz_: во, с @transaction.commit_on_success и одним transaction.rollback() в except заработало как надо
[11:31:11] wiz_: проверить бы ещё что именно он роллбэчит при ошибке
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[11:33:43] _lorien: в логах сервера должно быть
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[11:42:16] wiz_: в логах pg? O_o
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[11:44:04] wiz_: ладно, пофиг, у меня там read-only view...
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[11:48:10] _lorien: да, в логах pg, туда пишутся зафейленные транзакции
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[11:58:06] slav0nic: а чем в хг букмарки отлчиаются от локальных тегов?
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[12:09:21] wiz_: http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/nginx/119582/ щ_Щ
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[12:11:49] mishok13: """Итак, что дает CTPP:
Девелоперу:
Возможность написать свой код один раз и навсегда, не оглядываясь на то, как дизайнер нарисует очередной макет страницы и когда заказчик утвердит проект.
Использование одного и того же кода в разных проектах."""
[12:12:47] Typhon: OCalm
[12:12:48] mishok13: """
Менеджеру проекта:
Низкую стоимость и высокую скорость разработки, качество, безопасность и переносимость проекта.
"""
[12:12:48] Typhon: на картинке
[12:13:13] Typhon: с++ и "Низкую стоимость и высокую скорость разработки, качество, безопасность и переносимость проекта" ???
[12:13:27] wiz_: problems, developer? :coolface:
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[12:13:47] mishok13: кулфейса не хватает да
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[12:14:50] mishok13: сука, наркоманов развелось
[12:15:11] Typhon: лето
[12:15:18] Typhon: всё доступнее
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[12:18:13] Typhon: блиа, комменты почитал
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[12:22:01] mishok13: первое правило интернета: не читай каменты
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[12:22:52] Typhon: угу. есть кстати юзерскрипты и всякие плагины, которые их совсем скрывают ^_^
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[12:46:21] xa4a: каникулы же
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[13:06:46] tilarids: кажется, С++ полностью поглотил мой мозг. Я не понял, на что именно вы гнали по той ссылке :(
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[13:24:01] slav0nic: >Верховная Рада восстановила НДС на ИТ-услуги и ПО
чёт их плющит явно
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[16:06:05] gigimon: пхпшники страшные люди
[16:06:07] gigimon: радуются:
[16:06:16] gigimon: <?=$username?>
выглядит гораздо приятнее, чем
<?php echo $username?>
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[16:08:24] nmk: и правда приятнее, я бы тоже радовался :)
[16:08:26] Sevenov: gigimon, rmcreative что ль читаешь, лол?
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[16:11:42] gigimon: да
[16:11:49] gigimon: та иногда полезное бывает
[16:12:17] gigimon: nmk: по мне старый вариант лучше
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[16:17:36] xa4a: пока все проснутые, ещё раз: в киеве ищем питониста. у нас классно!
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[16:18:50] mishok13: а детальнее?
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[16:20:33] xa4a: http://hh.ua/vacancy/3274579?print=true
[16:20:36] slav0nic: сказали ж классно
[16:20:45] mishok13: пыздять
[16:20:56] mishok13: :)
[16:21:00] xa4a: +ub,rbq uhfabr? jncencndbt ,.hjrhfnbb? 'nw? 'nw
[16:21:03] xa4a: !decode
[16:21:12] slav0nic: кто шо плохого скажет про 42кофи? по рейту я так понял там не вкусно
[16:21:37] nmk: slav0nic: что блядь за компенсация?
[16:21:51] slav0nic: откуда я блять знаю
[16:21:52] nmk: зарплата не пишется что-ли? :)
[16:22:02] nmk: оййй
[16:22:05] mishok13: не туды
[16:22:05] nmk: я не тебе. сорри ;)
[16:22:19] mishok13: компенсация за урон психическому и физическому здоровью
[16:22:21] mishok13: шонеясно
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[16:23:19] nmk: mishok13: тогда я буду безработным сидеть. здоровье оно ж бесценно
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[16:32:06] mishok13: а то
[16:32:21] mishok13: только тут другая проблема появляется, без денег нету возможности поддерживать здоровье
[16:32:41] mishok13: поэтому надо построить систему уравнений и стремится к оптимуму
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[18:51:25] Darkstar: Доброго времени суток, уважаемые питонеры :)
Вопрос такой. Кто-нибудь пытался завести django-cms на gae?
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[19:18:55] denplis: зачем заводить django-cms на gae?
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[19:31:38] Darkstar: я не знаю. просто есть человек, который убежден что проще кому-то заплатить за это, чем покупать нормальный хостинг
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[19:32:49] Darkstar: Собственно, много чего перепробовал. Проблема осталась в единственной зависимости. - south. Оно не хочет работать c nonrel..
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[19:34:47] Darkstar: Блин, генимально!
Я за неделю работы так увлекся перепиливанием всего этого, что даже не подумал о таком просто решении как просто отучить django-cms от south :)
Спасибо, ребят )
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[22:32:10] gigimon: как считаете, для задачи: опрашивать большое количество по разным протоколам (ssh, rdp, ping) для проверки доступности на чем лучше делать? twisted или велосипед?
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[22:56:38] wiz: /me бы попробовал celery
[22:57:04] gigimon: да я вот сначала и подумал с ним юзать и велосипед
[22:57:24] gigimon: но вот чтобы не писать велосипед для сетевых протоколов, может твистед взять
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[23:06:49] wiz: да вроде для всего что надо есть отдельные либы
[23:07:10] wiz: хотя конечно можно и пачку твистеда заюзать, но у меня на него слегка аллергия
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