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[10:28:38] dicos: а я себе установил, сейчас играюсь
[10:28:59] dicos: отличное подспорье для тех, кто хочет перелезть с питона на руби
[10:29:18] wiz_: перелезть с питона на руби
[10:29:21] wiz_: с питона на руби
[10:29:23] wiz_: но зачем?
[10:29:40] mishok13: вот да
[10:30:17] mishok13: между этими двумя языками различий кот наплакал
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[10:30:46] Lispython: хехе
[10:31:25] mishok13: ладно бы за кложуру или там эрланг взяться
[10:32:38] _lorien: а почему бы и не перелезть
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[10:33:03] mishok13: дык а смысл?
[10:33:14] wiz_: участвовать в dickheads-сообществе
[10:33:17] _lorien: смысл это понятие сугубо субъективное )
[10:33:47] _lorien: как правило смысл связан с личными убеждениями, чувствами и если человеку просто хочется, то вот он и смысл
[10:34:08] mishok13: clojure/scala -> получаешь бесконечное количество библиотек под JVM
C# -> охуени IDE
Erlang -> fault-tolerance и scalability на шару
C (в крайнем случае плюсы) -> raw speed
[10:34:11] _lorien: если рассматривать такой переход с рациональной точки зрения, то может и не много смысла, я не знаю, что там в руби
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[10:34:38] mishok13: руби -> same shit :/
[10:34:40] _lorien: Как минимум, это шаг к освоению ruby on rails, а этот навык позволит легко находить работу
[10:34:54] mishok13: бггыгы
[10:35:02] mishok13: это пока пузырь веб-стартапов не лопнул
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[10:35:40] mishok13: смысл учить новый язык, если он ни одну из твоих проблем не решает лучше?
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[10:35:49] _lorien: я думаю, веб-сайты ещё долго нужны будут
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[10:36:01] _lorien: независимо от надувшихся пузырей
[10:36:21] _lorien: just for fun?
[10:37:07] mishok13: just for fun можно выучить INTERCAL например
[10:37:27] _lorien: а руби нельзя just for fun?
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[10:48:34] Lispython: а что, мне понравилось
[10:48:38] Lispython: достаточно интересно
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[10:53:33] dicos: Из-за чего может быть такая ситуация: Сделал обновление сайта, на сервере, тестовый сервер работает нормально, отдает страницы, а апач отдает 500 ошибку. Для связки питона и арача использую модуль mod_wsgi
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[10:55:15] _lorien: dicos: это может быть из-за того, что что-то глючит
[10:55:18] _lorien: подробнее смотри в error log
[10:55:41] _lorien: одна из наиболее вероятных причин у тебя сайт что-то в stdout выводит и mod_wsgi на этом падает
[10:55:50] _lorien: но чтобы не заниматься телепатией смотри логи, там всё написано
[10:57:12] dicos: в error log написано это: Premature end of script headers: django.wsgi я не очень понял, что с этим делать
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[10:57:57] _lorien: а покажи свой скрипт, к которому у тебя mod_wsgi подцепляется
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[11:01:07] dicos: Сейчас откатил назад сайт. Обнаружил, что эта ерунда начала происходить из-за подключенного memcached.
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[11:20:08] dicos: разобрался, вернее нашел виновника: это был модуль django-newcache. Заменил его на python-memcached и все заработало как надо
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[11:21:31] Darth Лис: утра
[11:22:05] _lorien: sys.path.append('/home/on_day_ru/www/lib/python2.6/site-packages/')
а это что, там virtualenv?
[11:22:24] dicos: да, virtualenv
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[11:25:08] _lorien: я подробностей не знаю, но мне кажется это какой-то кривой способ его инициализации
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[11:26:11] _lorien: в документации так советуют: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/virtualenv#using-virtualenv-without-bin-python
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[11:29:23] _lorien: ну как минимум надо не sys.path.append(, а sys.path.insert(0, делать
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[12:10:24] wiz_: во фласке можно сразу в роут регэксп засунуть или всё ручками потом проверять?
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[12:14:44] Typhon: нет, насколько я знаю
[12:14:59] Typhon: там же в сторону упрощения тебя пихают :-)
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[12:21:33] wiz_: ацтой... где моя джанга
[12:22:05] wiz_: походу будет проще навелосипедить mssql-бэкенд чем с фласком ипстись дальше
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[12:23:38] _lorien: :D
[12:23:41] _lorien: а чо, разве нет готовых?
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[12:25:16] wiz_: есть, но он какой-то опухший
[12:25:24] wiz_: хер поймёшь как к нему подлезть
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[12:28:48] Sevenov: wiz_, а зачем там регэксп?
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[12:29:26] Typhon: вот вот
[12:30:19] Sevenov: Неужто КАКТУС?
[12:30:20] wiz_: сразу отбрасывать говнозначения
[12:30:50] Sevenov: wiz_, <any()>
[12:31:09] wiz_: и потом вручную?
[12:31:28] Sevenov: wiz_, а можешь дать конкретный пример?
[12:31:46] wiz_: /[0-9A-Z-]/
[12:32:03] wiz_: /[0-9A-F-]/
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[12:32:32] Typhon: рест апи для разыменования указателя по адресу
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[12:33:21] unkier: а почему фласк если не секрет ?
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[12:33:23] Sevenov: wiz_, ну напиши конвертер :3
[12:33:34] Sevenov: unkier, потому что он хуже джанги же.
[12:34:14] wiz_: потому что там sqla внутри. бэкенд для джанги не взлетел сразу, а дедлайн кусал за жопу. as usual
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[12:35:39] unkier: тоесть конь еще не валялся а дедлайн уже близко :-)
[12:37:27] wiz_: не
[12:37:33] wiz_: дедлайн уже прошёл, а задачу только поставили
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[12:49:45] _lorien: Братцы, у кого есть алгоритм стемминга для сербского языка?
[12:49:53] _lorien: Или у кого спросить можно?
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[15:30:49] nmk: slaа если убрать . ? т.е. просто /static/
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[16:21:37] wiz_: как бы из datetime.date получить первое число следующего месяца?
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[16:24:30] xa4a: + timedelta() ?
[16:25:02] xa4a: а, там до недель
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[16:26:16] nmk: хотя нет
[16:26:19] nmk: протупил
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datetime.today() + relativedelta(months=2)
[16:28:15] wiz_: но его доставлять надо
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[16:37:32] Darth Лис: http://paste.in.ua/2435/
пытаюсь поставить python2.5.5
[16:37:40] Darth Лис: просто make падает
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[17:57:43] gigimon: а вы читали http://google-styleguide.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/pyguide.html?
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[18:33:26] mishok13_: это плохой документ
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