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[04:53:06] webninja: бразы. а как быть если домен русский РФ?
[04:53:50] webninja: стройхуй.рф
[04:54:15] webninja: я имею в виду джангу само собой
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[09:54:53] _lorien: А кто-нить делал бэкапа на дропбокс, как это выглядит?
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[10:09:42] Tony: _lorien, это выглядит пиздец. не рекомендую
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[10:11:14] _lorien: А что рекомендуешь? Надо просто бэкапить базу данных от нескольких проектов. В идеале это всё будет лежать в самом проекте, вызываться по крону и проекты не будут иметь доступ к бд друг-друга. Как вариант можно на гмайл слать файлики и удалять по imap старые письма.
[10:11:34] _lorien: доступ к бд друг-друга => доступ к бэкапу друг-друга, я имел в виду.
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[10:11:41] Tony: хз. может s3 можно.
[10:11:48] nmk: _lorien: да нормально все будет. не сцы :)
[10:11:57] Tony: nmk, до до до. расскажи мне больше
[10:12:03] Tony: dropbox headless глючит только в путь
[10:12:15] Tony: я наебся по полной в последнее время.
[10:12:29] nmk: можно не headless запустить
[10:12:39] Tony: не headless на сервере?
[10:12:47] nmk: а чо? :)
[10:12:55] Tony: я бы за такое яйца оторвал. :)
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[10:13:49] Tony: у мен щас проект как раз сборник говнотехнологий
[10:13:55] Tony: вроде и django вроде и postgres
[10:14:06] Tony: но так все пошло. в виде бэкапов на dropbox и серверов cherokee
[10:14:53] nmk: ну слушай. яйца не яйца, но когда есть несколько совсем масеньких проектов и не хочетяс вбивать креду в амазон, то не пофиг ли куда дампы слать?
[10:15:11] Tony: на маленьких проектах похуй. хоть правда gmail
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[10:15:26] Tony: но у меня дампы по 600 мб. это пиздец-приехали с dropbox
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[10:15:47] nmk: ну был бы у тебя mysql и mysqldump ты бы еще больше радовался
[10:15:57] Tony: не о том речь
[10:16:15] nmk: можно вообще и на куски разбить
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[10:16:40] nmk: но вообще комерческий проект бекапить на dropbox это не ок
[10:16:59] Tony: да можно и на куски бить да и хранить где-нибудь в записях ДНС
[10:16:59] nmk: когда бабос есть
[10:17:14] nmk: что-то ты дружок не выспался, аггресивный слишком
[10:17:22] Tony: на маленьких проектах похуй. но я даже на маленький проект буду выбирать что-нибудь кроме dropbox
[10:17:34] Tony: да у меня была прекрасная ночь связанная с бэкапами на дропбокс
[10:17:58] nmk: а у меня редис отваливался..
[10:18:14] Tony: редис тот еще пиздец. если еще эта хуита добавится в наш проект, то я уволюсь. :)
[10:18:26] nmk: редис пиздатый, не гони
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[10:19:46] _lorien: а амазон aws или как там его можно настроить так, чтобы выделить аккунт или ещё чо там для разных проектов? шобы они не могли получить доступ к бэкапу других проектов?
[10:20:07] nmk: _lorien: s3 да
[10:20:28] Tony: хз. я один проект перетащил на s3
[10:20:31] nmk: только я не помню подробности.
[10:20:40] Tony: там 30 центов в месяц списывается с карты за это говно
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[10:36:49] nmk: _lorien: погугли лучше на тему сервисов s3 rsync. туда проще будет заливать
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[11:15:27] webninja: привет
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[11:15:40] webninja: как с доменами типа стройхуй.рф работать в жанге?
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[11:16:14] wiz_: а что с ними не так?
[11:16:26] wiz_: они же как xn--f7h5823475.xn--34f538 будут приходить.
[11:16:31] webninja: ага
[11:16:40] webninja: а в браузере оно само сконвертится?
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[11:16:45] wiz_: обратно нет
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[11:17:09] wiz_: при чём тут джанга вообще?
[11:17:13] webninja: хм
[11:17:27] webninja: ну там же нужно домен прописывать местами
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[11:17:39] webninja: STATIC_URL/MEDIA_URL
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[11:29:42] wiz_: тут не нужно
[11:29:44] _lorien: http://www.getexceptional.com/ кто-нить эту херь юзал?
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[11:30:02] _lorien: webninja: положи домен в settings.HOST :)
[11:30:37] _lorien: и используй его в шаблонах, где надо выводить в нормальном виде домен, а в других местах, видимо, и роботизированный вид сойдёт, который в самой джанге будет
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[11:31:42] wiz_: _lorien, чем это лучше https://github.com/dcramer/django-sentry ?
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[11:32:01] _lorien: я это и пытаюсь щас понять )
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[11:32:27] _lorien: сентри мне тоже не нравится, мне нравится вот что, когда возникает ошибка, она падает на емайл и раздражает, во всех других случаях всем похуй будет, имхо )
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[11:34:51] webninja: _lorien: попробую. щаз сайт попросили сделать, а у них домен РФ, сижу думаю как подцепить его.
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[11:35:34] wiz_: webninja, да нет там никаких проблем
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[11:35:42] wiz_: джанге вообще пох на host же
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[11:36:02] _lorien: wiz_: когда проектов много, удобно чтобы всё в одном месте собиралось, хотя я чё-то похожее читал и про sentry
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[11:58:17] webninja: хм
[11:59:38] webninja: http://dumpz.org/56562/
[11:59:46] webninja: я вот так делаю
[12:01:04] webninja: в статик храню по шаблону + ксс + яваскрипт. а в медиа те файлы которые загружать можно из админки.
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[12:12:36] wiz_: мне кажется абсолютный урл указывать стоит только если у тебя на другом домене
[12:12:43] wiz_: а так /media/ и пофиг
[12:14:13] webninja: я пробовал
[12:14:25] webninja: он почему-то не релейтед получается
[12:14:36] webninja: т.е. морда норм. а если другую страницу открыть
[12:15:28] webninja: все что прописано в шабе {{ STATIC_URL }} не подгружает
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[12:17:16] webninja: сек
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[12:25:49] webninja: мля работает хммммм
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[12:35:29] webninja: о опыт сын ошибок трудных
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[12:41:53] _lorien: а кто-нить в джанге пробовал мылы слать через несколько мэйл бэкендов? Как бы замутить такое
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[12:44:40] _lorien: а, вижу есть get_connection() и его можно в конструтор EmailMessage передавать
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[15:04:06] Typhon: cutwater: http://json-schema.org/
[15:04:32] cutwater: э... чего?
[15:04:50] Typhon: ну ты валидаторы писал всякие
[15:04:54] cutwater: ну я понел
[15:05:00] Typhon: вот эта фигня — почти стандарт
[15:05:06] cutwater: я вообще вопрос в скайпе спрашивал... в корпоративном чатике.
[15:05:08] cutwater: а ты кто?
[15:05:35] Typhon: гг, а я мимо проходил
[15:05:54] Sevenov: cutwater, я тоже видел, как ты спрашивал.
[15:05:56] Sevenov: в скайпе
[15:05:58] cutwater: /me спалился?
[15:06:01] Sevenov: я тебе тогда еще ответил там
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[17:11:33] cutwater: ребят я чего-то затупил
[17:11:49] cutwater: мне приходит строка "2011-06-10 22:11:00"
[17:12:02] cutwater: мне надо ее перегнать в timestamp и обратно.
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[17:12:38] cutwater: time.mktime возвращает локальное время.. не UTC
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[17:13:57] Typhon: time.strptime
[17:14:41] cutwater: погодь. это очевидно
[17:14:49] cutwater: time.strptime делаю. потом time.mktime
[17:14:56] cutwater: потом еще вызвать time.gmtime штоле?
[17:15:52] Typhon: потом datetime.datetime.fromtimestamp
[17:15:59] Typhon: и часовой пояс ставить нужный
[17:16:28] cutwater: щас уточню еще этот момент
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