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[02:10:05] webninja: _lorien: я бы сказал i'm playing with TF-IDF algorithms now. хз насколько правильно )
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[07:12:44] webninja: http://docs.merengueproject.org/
[07:12:47] webninja: блин че такое
[07:12:55] webninja: We did not find results for: docs.merengueproject.org. Try the suggestions below or type a new query above.
[07:12:59] webninja: у всех такое?
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[07:20:52] _lorien: у меня всё ок, попробуй ctrl+f5 нажми и все куки удали
[07:21:14] webninja: ага щаз тоже ок.
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[07:22:01] webninja: лориен а ты не используешь ЦМС?
[07:22:55] _lorien: не использую
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[08:30:04] _lorien: Кто-нить работал с jquery ui dialog? Не могу закрыть окно с дилагом
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[12:12:58] _lorien: о, в джанге декоратор сделали для обработчиков сигналов
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[12:24:38] gigimon: _lorien: какой
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[12:28:24] _lorien: в смысле какой? )
[12:28:27] _lorien: см. доки по сигналам :)
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[12:28:40] _lorien: ну декоратор для функции обработки сигнала, чтобы ручками не делать connect
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[12:28:54] gigimon: а
[12:29:07] gigimon: в dev?
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[12:30:19] gigimon: а не, в 1.3 добавили
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[12:31:37] _lorien: не, я на dev ещё до 1.2 сидеть перестал, т.е ребята там пыхтят, всякую хрень добавляют, а мне уже за глаза того, что в джанге есть, так что не вижу смысла на trunk что-то делать
[12:32:05] _lorien: только периодически узнаю, о новых фичах, вообще подозреваю, их дохрена, надо блин доки перечитывать
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[12:34:06] gigimon: _lorien: 1.3 юзаешь?
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[12:35:39] _lorien: да
[12:37:02] gigimon: классы по вь.хах не юзаешь?
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[12:43:02] _lorien: неа, не успел ещё раскурить чо это
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[13:50:31] wiz: а как нынче делается a, b, *tail = 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 ?
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[13:53:53] kostafey: А если через функцию.
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[13:54:57] wiz: а если на хацкеле?
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[13:55:54] kostafey: Не пугай так. Я думал канал попутал :)
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[17:24:35] xa4a: всё ещё ищем питониста/ов, киев -> http://rabota.ua/company766870/vacancy4568589
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[17:26:12] огыешсук: 2k$ за офис? Эх, не любите вы программистов.
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[17:32:48] xa4a: больше 2к. и, огыешсук, это ж киев
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[17:33:49] mishok13: 2.5к в киеве неплохо
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[17:53:04] огыешсук: в этом то и проблема, что 2.5k (которых, по совести хватит только на покушать да коммуналку) это считается за неплохо, что-то python не ценят, в erlang/ocaml что ли подацца :o\
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[17:56:53] mishok13: покушать и коммуналку?
[17:56:56] mishok13: ты наркоман штоле?
[17:57:28] mishok13: 600 баксов квартира на печерске (центр города) + 600 баксов покушать (в том числе и в ресторанах и пабах)
[17:57:44] xa4a: а erlang/ocaml никому не нужен
[17:57:59] xa4a: особенно если туда только подацца
[17:58:08] Typhon: ерланг особенно не нужен, ага
[17:58:12] mishok13: ну пускай ты еще шмоточник и 300 баксов на одежду тратишь
[17:58:33] mishok13: всё равно штука остается
[17:58:48] Typhon: а если айпад2 захочу ?
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[17:59:12] Darth Лис: поголодаешь
[17:59:18] Darth Лис: ;)
[17:59:22] mishok13: тогда дешевле самолётом до польши и там его за 600 баксов купить
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[17:59:27] mishok13: чем здесь за 1200
[18:00:02] mishok13: короче, я не знаю как там у вас, в россиях, но у нас тут на 2.5к вдвоем совсем неплохо живется
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[18:02:13] огыешсук: я тоже не знаю как, но у меня на покушать и коммуналку (ну и немножко разных мелких гаджетов) стабильно 1.5k$ в месяц уходят. Ещё 1k$ можно откладывать, да, но толку то с такой мелочи.
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[18:03:23] mishok13: ооо, гаджеты
[18:03:25] огыешсук: ipad2, кстати, не нужен. Одним из мелких гаджетов я прикупил себе motorola xoom. Куда православнее этих ваших яблок!
[18:03:49] mishok13: киндыль 220 баксов, андроидофон 180 баксов эээ всё
[18:04:02] mishok13: 400 баксов за год
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[18:04:29] mishok13: 1.5к на комуналку и пожрать это пиздец по-моему
[18:04:31] mishok13: или Москва
[18:04:48] xa4a: огыешсук: ты уже не в сша?
[18:05:21] mishok13: я вот бухаю чуть ли не ежедневно и то, судя по gnucash так и не вылез ни разу за 600 баксов на пабы, рестораны и пожрать
[18:05:30] mishok13: видимо, без шика и размаха бухаю
[18:05:47] огыешсук: mishok13: Вот-вот. Потому я гаджеты и называю мелкими. Может xoom и стоит 666$, но он покупается один раз и на несколько лет. Плюс ещё один лишь раз покупается Google Nexus за 500$. И всё такое прочее. Сущие мелочи, если в среднем по месяцам удельный вес посчитать.
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[18:06:45] огыешсук: xa4a: увы, давно уже не. Надо новый ноут покупать, там он стоит 1200$ (с кучей скидок, ага), а тут та же модель за 2000$ идёт и хрен её ещё поймаешь даже за столько.
[18:07:25] mishok13: бля, ноуты по 2к это какой-то ад
[18:07:28] mishok13: зачем?
[18:07:41] Typhon: макбук же %)
[18:07:43] slav0nic: ты уже не фанат маков?)

[18:07:50] xa4a: макбук же 1.3к
[18:07:51] огыешсук: mishok13: это обычный thinkpad t420s. Лёгкий, шустрый, долгоиграющий.
[18:07:59] Typhon: xa4a: в ваших краях?
[18:08:07] xa4a: Typhon: http://hotline.ua/tx/apple_macbook_pro_mc374/
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[18:08:30] Typhon: ну опять мне телефоны впаривают %)
[18:08:34] Typhon: а 17 дюймовый?
[18:08:39] slav0nic: )
[18:08:41] xa4a: монитор стационарный
[18:08:45] xa4a: или два
[18:08:48] Typhon: с ним на балкон не уйти
[18:08:55] xa4a: это к лучшему
[18:08:57] slav0nic: ещё +500-600уе
[18:09:03] xa4a: на работе
[18:09:11] slav0nic: и ты гламурная кисо
[18:09:35] Typhon: на работе у меня стационар с нормальной клавой и монитором здоровым, а дома я хочу на балкон ходить %)
[18:09:44] Typhon: и иметь хотя бы более менее приличный монитор и клаву
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[18:09:56] Typhon: то есть как минимум 17 дюймов (лучше >18)
[18:10:51] огыешсук: mishok13: касательно ресторанов -- "просто покушать" это уже примерно 25$. А если "неплохо покушать в компании" то уже и до 100$ не сложно добраться. Да простой ежедневный бизнес-ланч это уже 10$ (то есть ~300$ в месяц).
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[18:13:40] огыешсук: Я не к тому, что "денег на жизнь не хватает", а к тому, что только на текущую жизнь их и хватает. А это, по моему, не правильно. Должно автоматически откладываться хотя бы половина дохода. Не согласны?
[18:14:28] огыешсук: И обычные офисные работы, что в киеве, что в питере, нифига к подобному не располагают.
[18:14:35] огыешсук: Что нехорошо.
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[18:19:43] огыешсук: /me уже второй раз забросил учёт финансов. Был gnucash на ноуте пять лет назад в течении почти года, был finansisto на мобильнике в течении почти года. Но.. Смысл? Становится понятно, куда уходят деньги, да. Но что толку то с этого знания.
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[18:55:30] _lorien: А я тут просто перестал бабло тратить, только на еду трачу :)
[18:55:59] gigimon: сидишь дома онли?
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[18:56:30] _lorien: ага, ваще я хочу марк 2 купить :) прошлый разъебал и продал (
[18:56:34] gigimon: ого
[18:56:38] gigimon: фотограф?
[18:56:48] _lorien: нет, машина такая, тойота
[18:56:49] gigimon: за разбитие марк 2 тебя покарать стоит
[18:56:51] gigimon: ааааааа
[18:56:54] gigimon: тю)
[18:57:20] _lorien: ну кстати стоит наверное как этот фотик, в смысле, та что я хочу, начала девяностых годов
[18:58:18] _lorien: а так у меня никон есть, тока я почти не фотаю, объектив надо купить на 200-300 мм, тогда пойду птичек фотать
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[19:01:55] cutwater: _lorien: а я недавно никон прикупил
[19:01:59] cutwater: а зачем марк два то?
[19:02:54] _lorien: cutwater: какой купил?
[19:03:15] cutwater: D7000
[19:03:20] cutwater: пока что с китом
[19:03:33] _lorien: ыыы, у меня тако же тока без двух нулей )) D70
[19:05:01] _lorien: cutwater: хочу мощную комфортную машинку
[19:05:04] cutwater: завтра штатив приедет, может позже 70-300мм возьму.
[19:05:17] _lorien: хотя конечно за эти деньги везде пишут, что будет что-то убитое
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[19:05:52] cutwater: _lorien: в смысле?
[19:06:08] _lorien: за 5килобаксов говорят, что машина будет убитая
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[19:06:10] cutwater: Mark II $4000 стоит...
[19:06:12] cutwater: зачем?
[19:06:12] _lorien: ушатанная
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[19:06:17] cutwater: а ну да
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[19:06:55] _lorien: но щас прогресс, в начале я вообще взял марк за 2к и потом ещё истратил на капиталку двигла 1к :) Думал делать всё сразу на совесть, только увы въебался в столб
[19:07:37] _lorien: И не имея опыта нахождения железок и общения с СТО продал его за гроши, за 800 баков. Хотя щас думаю, сглупил, надо было до конца довести.
[19:07:58] _lorien: cutwater: мы вообще про чо говорим??? я про машину ))
[19:08:06] mishok13: огыешсук, я не понимаю откуда у тебя эти числа
[19:08:08] cutwater: _lorien: ну я тебя уже понял
[19:08:17] mishok13: бизнес ланч 50 грн (6 баксов) максимум
[19:08:24] cutwater: я просто сначала думал что ты тоже фотик Canon Mark II купить
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[19:08:35] cutwater: *тоже думал
[19:08:43] mishok13: офисные работы от неофисных отличаются охуенным коллективом, например
[19:09:00] mishok13: счет в баре у меня ни разу за 250 грн не уходил, а я ни в чем себе не отказываю
[19:09:32] mishok13: у меня откладывается, так чтоб ты понял, 70% дохода в месяц
[19:09:41] cutwater: меня как-то не тянет в киев. тут хотя бы годик поработаю, возьмете меня к себе?
[19:09:42] _lorien: cutwater: а нет, мне пока nikon d70 за глаза, надо только объектив прикупить нормальный
[19:09:45] mishok13: и у жены около 80% дохода откладывается
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[19:09:54] cutwater: _lorien: завтра штатив приедет
[19:10:06] cutwater: как раз сдам диплом 9го и буду уже свободно себя чувствовать
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[19:12:25] огыешсук: mishok13: а у тебя сильно больше этих 2k$ доход? (но я вижу, что покушать у вас похоже дешевле выходит заметно)
[19:12:42] mishok13: не сильно больше
[19:12:50] mishok13: у жены зарплата примерно как у меня
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[19:13:50] mishok13: пожрать и побухать дешево, во Львове вообще можно за 50 грн в сраные сопли
[19:13:59] mishok13: и зарплаты не сильно ниже Киева
[19:14:03] _lorien: хм, это за 200 рублей?
[19:14:04] cutwater: хм..
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[19:15:03] _lorien: у нас на 200 рублей можно бутылку вина купить и всё
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[19:15:23] _lorien: ну, ну одного человека хватит, шобы голову затуманило, но точно не в сраные сопли ))
[19:15:28] mishok13: мы вдвоем с женой жрали шоколадное фондю и бухали медовуху во Львове, часа три безостановочно, счет получился 109 гривен (14 баксов)
[19:15:35] mishok13: я не помню как я платил
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[19:15:59] Typhon: давайте про минск! там ещё ниже цены %)
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[19:16:12] mishok13: Минск на одном уровне со Львовом, кстати, по ценам
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[19:16:22] mishok13: тоже прекрасно можно ужраться, но там места надо знать, конечно
[19:16:36] Typhon: аптеку закрыли, негде там ужираться!
[19:16:37] Typhon: :'(
[19:16:42] mishok13: ты шо
[19:16:45] mishok13: пиздишь бля
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[19:16:55] Typhon: не закрыли аптеку?
[19:17:13] mishok13: я у брата спрошу
[19:17:35] Typhon: я вот этой зимой ездил, местные сказали, што закрыли
[19:18:47] mishok13: я прошлым летом, но я мало чего помню вообще
[19:19:08] mishok13: единственно, что пива у них нету вразумительного
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[20:56:29] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: Здравсвуйте, посоны!
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[20:57:22] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: Кто разбирается в многомерных массивах?
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[20:57:50] gigimon: ты вопрос задай
[20:58:30] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: gigimon: Вопрос следующий.

Мне нужно добавить элемент в двумерный массив корректно. С append что-то не выходит.
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[21:00:22] gigimon: http://dpaste.com/548760/
[21:00:25] gigimon: ответил на вопрос?
[21:00:48] gigimon: я бы не сказал, что в питоне это именно массивы, это списки, могут хранить что угодно
[21:00:53] gigimon: вложенно
[21:00:59] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: Да я-то знаю.
[21:01:14] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: Сейчас попробую.
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[21:06:48] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: Нет, всё-равно что-то не то получается.
Суть токова:
есть переменная map, её объявление:
map = [[ Tile(False)
for y in range(MAP_HEIGHT) ]
for x in range(MAP_WIDTH) ]
Если выйти за пределы массива персонажем (это игра, к сведению), то, естественно, игра вылетает с ошибкой out of index range. Мне нужно, чтобы при достижении игроком предела карты массив заполнялся экземплярами класса Tile.
[21:07:08] gigimon: map - встреонная функция, использовать ее имя нехорошо
[21:07:31] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: Но всё же.
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[21:07:47] gigimon: чет я твой код не понял, что за for в скобках?
[21:08:06] gigimon: типа list competion?
[21:08:09] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: Чтобы заполнить массив тайлами же.
[21:08:19] gigimon: а что ты получить хочешь?
[21:08:31] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: Мне нужно, чтобы при достижении игроком предела карты массив заполнялся экземплярами класса Tile.
[21:08:35] gigimon: список с координатами сделай
[21:08:41] gigimon: да причем тут твой игрок
[21:08:47] gigimon: мы не в курсе что это и как это
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[21:09:00] gigimon: я как понимаю это координаты?
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[21:09:35] gigimon: и значение Tile(False) в нем?
[21:09:49] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: Tile - это класс. Список заполняется его экземплярами.
[21:10:00] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: False в объявлении класса - является ли блок непроходимым.
[21:10:04] gigimon: я не могу понять где твои x и y юзаются
[21:10:22] gigimon: и какого вида список ты хочешь получить?
[21:10:34] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: Если ты хочешь получить точку на карте с координатами 10 15 то берёшь map[10][15]
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[21:11:39] _lorien: AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: чо за гавнокод, используй обыкновенные циклы :)
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[21:11:48] _lorien: без list comprehensions
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[21:12:55] gigimon: AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: http://dpaste.com/548770/
[21:13:04] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: _lorien: Слово "говно" пишется именно так, как я его написал. Есть же проверочное слово - "говны"!
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[21:14:02] _lorien: AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: хорошо, твой код, говно, ты доволен :)
[21:14:11] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: Граммар-наци негодует.
[21:14:19] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: _lorien: Это не мой код, алсо.
[21:14:26] gigimon: AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: ты его показываешь, значит твой
[21:14:33] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: gigimon: Я его спиздил же.
[21:14:43] gigimon: ну нам пох же, ты же его показываешь)
[21:14:47] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: gigimon: У одного туториала по написанию рогаликов.
[21:14:57] gigimon: оно точно было по питону?
[21:15:01] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:GXuS1J_04NEJ:roguebasin.roguelikedevelopment.org/index.php%3Ftitle%3DComplete_Roguelike_Tutorial,_using_python%252Blibtcod,_part_3+complete+roguelike+tutorial&cd=3&hl=ru&ct=clnk&gl=ru&source=www.google.ru
[21:15:09] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: gigimon: Можешь проверить, если не веришь.
[21:15:26] gigimon: ОМГ
[21:15:35] gigimon: кто в мануале учит людей делать global map?
[21:15:44] gigimon: я бы не верил такому мануалу
[21:16:07] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: Другого нет. Может напишешь получше, с преферансом и верблюдами с двумя горбами?
[21:16:20] _lorien: AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: а в чём вопрос конкретно, если без всяких игроков, карт и т.д.?
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[21:16:49] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: _lorien: Нужно как-то заполнять массив по мере движения игрока в сторону, где тайлов нет.
[21:17:04] gigimon: просили ж, без игроков >_<
[21:17:16] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: Ну ёпт.
[21:17:40] gigimon: ну у меня логика, тайлов нет - игрок туда не должен идти, если не должен идти, нафига что-то заполнять? О_о
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[21:17:52] gigimon: исключение - карта кончилась, стоять на месте
[21:17:53] _lorien: AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: ну так заполняй, в чём проблема конкретно?
[21:18:02] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: _lorien: Дак не выходит же нихуя!
[21:18:22] _lorien: что именно не выходит? :) Какой код у тебя есть и что именно он делает не так?
[21:18:27] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: gigimon: Карта размером 80х40 меня не устраивает.
[21:18:41] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: А генерировать больше - значит писать обработку секторов.
[21:18:50] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: Мне её и так писать, впрочем.
[21:19:16] gigimon: мне кажется ты что-то с чем-то путаешь или неправильно пытаешься делать...
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[21:19:36] gigimon: разве есть разница между генерированием карты 20 на 20 или 100 на 100?
[21:19:52] gigimon: при разных размерах, для игрока какая разница, можно идти где нету поля или нельзя?
[21:20:08] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: Но если сгенерировать карту сразу 900000х900000000, то нужно будет немало поебаться с сохранением карты. В прошлый раз это порвало мне анус. И я не хочу, чтобы это повторилось.
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[21:20:23] gigimon: генери кусками?)
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[21:20:35] gigimon: так щас задача какая?
[21:20:39] gigimon: что именно не выходит?
[21:20:56] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: Не выходит заполнить двумерный массив как следует, говорю же.
[21:21:19] _lorien: блять :)
[21:21:24] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: Создаётся какая-то непонятная хуйня, которую один Г-спдь Б-г понять может.
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[21:21:37] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: _lorien: Через "д", к твоему сведению.
[21:21:38] _lorien: ты запиши код по простому без хуеты всякой
[21:21:47] _lorien: да мне похуй, грамотей
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[21:21:53] _lorien: я говорю, код проще пиши ;-)
[21:22:22] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: _lorien: Да я пробовал по-простому! И в итоге вышла хуйня, которую невозможно использовать в дальнейшем.
[21:22:23] gigimon: AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: http://dpaste.com/548778/
[21:22:26] gigimon: код рабочий в примере
[21:22:46] gigimon: где тут что-то непонятное?)
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[21:23:02] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: gigimon: Ты объявил список, а мне нужно добавить в него элементы.
[21:23:14] gigimon: ну эм
[21:23:36] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: Великие ебаные тряпочные караси в заварной хуйне, дайте мне терпения.
[21:24:12] gigimon: AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: http://dpaste.com/548779/
[21:24:14] gigimon: WTF?
[21:24:40] gigimon: вот еще надо послать тебя в туториал -> RTFM!
[21:24:47] gigimon: /me всегда мечтал послать читать ман
[21:24:50] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: gigimon: Что же здесь вотафакного?
[21:24:58] _lorien: AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: http://dumpz.org/57279/ вот это простой код
[21:24:59] gigimon: не понимания твоей проблемы
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[21:25:22] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: gigimon: http://lurkmore.ru/Wtf
[21:25:40] gigimon: AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: ты бы вместо троллинга и чатинга, читал код и осмысливал
[21:25:40] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: gigimon: Советую понять смысл этой аббревиатуры и впредь использовать там, где это нужно.
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[21:25:44] gigimon: про wtf я вкурсе
[21:25:48] gigimon: /me бьется об стену
[21:25:59] gigimon: и wtf тут впооолне подходит ;)
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[21:26:32] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: gigimon: WTF это выражения крайнего удивления и охуенного вскрика по этому поводу, дружище.
[21:26:45] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: И я сюда не про WTF пришёл говорить.
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[21:28:54] gigimon: вот я и удивлюяьс
[21:28:59] gigimon: что у менч за магия!
[21:29:04] _lorien: AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: ты забыл дефис после WTF и перед словом "это"
[21:29:06] gigimon: ты магию осознал:
[21:29:15] gigimon: _lorien: :D
[21:29:34] gigimon: AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: я твою проблему решил?
[21:29:41] gigimon: ты показал код, я показал как добавлять
[21:29:44] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: _lorien: Тебе бы стоило начать предложение с большой буквы и закончить его точкой, а ещё там должен быть не дефис, а тире.
[21:29:44] gigimon: или нет?
[21:29:59] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: gigimon: Я забью на это дело.
[21:30:05] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: gigimon: Спасибо за помощь, энивей.
[21:30:13] _lorien: AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: ты забыл тире после WTF и перед словом "это"
[21:30:14] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: _lorien: И тебе тоже, да.
[21:30:32] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: _lorien: Ошибки делают все.
[21:30:57] gigimon: /me ненавидит грамар нации на всякой хуете
[21:30:59] _lorien: AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: Ну, так смирись молча, что ты допустил такую ошибку.
[21:31:06] _lorien: Облажался - признай это.
[21:31:15] _lorien: Забыл тире, такой досадный промах :)
[21:31:18] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: _lorien: Я не признаю штоле?
[21:31:29] _lorien: "Штоле" - это что за слово? o_O
[21:31:32] _lorien: О, мой бог.
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[21:31:34] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: _lorien: Мем, да.
[21:31:48] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: _lorien: Луркоёб в некоторой степени. Или не видно?
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[21:32:18] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: _lorien: А зачем запятая после О?
[21:32:19] _lorien: Мне кажется, просто зануда.
[21:32:36] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: Мне тоже много чего кажется иногда.
[21:32:39] _lorien: Не знаю, так пальцы напечатали.
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[21:32:57] _lorien: Я давно уже не заморачиваюсь по поводу орфографии и пунткуации, в какой-то момент мне стало похуй глубоко.
[21:33:09] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: Твой выбор же.
[21:33:11] _lorien: На то, где я пропустил запятую или, что я не начал предложение с большой буквы.
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[21:33:20] gigimon: после О требуется запятая, это обособление, выражение эмоций
[21:33:33] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: gigimon: Нет, это не обособление.
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[21:33:45] gigimon: я не могу вспомнить как это по-русски
[21:33:49] gigimon: по украински это вигук
[21:34:00] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: Так ты тоже хохол штоле?
[21:34:07] gigimon: у тебя с этим проблемы?
[21:34:19] gigimon: если не заметил, канал pythonUA
[21:34:19] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: Хотя, впрочем, хохол из меня никакой :3
[21:34:42] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: Да, но ua может оказаться чем угодно.
[21:34:53] _lorien: О - это междометие
[21:34:57] gigimon: точняк
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[21:36:04] _lorien: 2.9.2.Междометия и междометные предложения
Междометия выделяются (или отделяются) запятыми; при восклицательной интонации после междометия ставится восклицательный знак: О, где-то пожар!
[21:36:14] _lorien: Так что я считаю, что запятая там вполне к месту.
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[21:36:41] gigimon: минутка правописания
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[21:56:34] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKY8WuyA3iU&feature=fvwrel
[21:56:36] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: Ой.
[21:56:41] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: Не туда бросил линк, простите.
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[22:03:12] _lorien: А кто-нибудь знает, как выполнить dpkg-reconfigure locales, чтобы выбрать en_US & ru_RU UTF-8 локали и сделать en_US дефолтной?
[22:03:19] _lorien: По-умолчанию открывается серия диалоговых окон, где надо ручками выбирать.
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[22:07:33] _lorien: а, уже разобрался, надо юзать locale-gen вместо него
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[22:15:06] hr6134: to AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st попробуй использовать вместо списков словари (если так хочешь использовать свой код), в качестве индексов создавай числа. если присвоить словарю по несуществующему индексу значение, то оно создастся, со списком такое не прокатит.
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